Just tried this on in the store , it’s stunning. Thickness non issue. It’s a timeless piece that would look incredible in an array of straps. Definitely adding to my collection when I can get one
Managed to collect mine yesterday on the rubber strap, the proportions are spot on, the thickness seems to just blend into the overall proportions of the watch. In other words you really don't notice the thickness. It really is a watch which needs to be seen, you simply don't notice it being 'thick' at all. Overall very impressed, great watch.
@@oOoScarecrow31oOo not changed the strap, quite like the rubber/leather OEM at the moment, but based on other watches of similar thickness it will be fine on a Nato
I have this. It’s slightly top heavy but it’s still so comfortable and Reminds me of the older sea dwellers with its thickness. It’s an awesome watch and I’m enjoying wearing it.
I am a minority here for sure, but I love Tudor watches particularly for their thickness. It transmits a sense of a true tool watch, which is what I am interested in, regardless of what I am wearing or the occasion. But I believe that your comments at the end of the video are the most important and I wish all agreed with you: we have had enough of waiting list, flippers and paying premium just to be able to own something which is not a limited edition piece. So I am done with Rolex, for instance, and anything else (clubs, restaurants, etc.) where I need to wait and be robbed.
I'm with you too on the thickness. I love my 41mm BB diver for how solid it feels and wears. The best part of the thickness complaint is that you can get sweet deals on the used market.
Agree 100% and the whole pretentious waiting lists for Rolex, clubs, cars etc - all done to fuel the already wealthy and make people feel they are special. Hoping Tudor does not go same route.
The greatest obstacle to obtaining a good timepiece should be the cost to buy. If there’s more to it than that… forget it. There’s too many good options out there to get stuck on one brand.
What’s your next purchase going to be then? Mines hopefully a BB Pro, which is why I watched a video about it. Is this the same philosophy you apply to games consoles?
@@alfieakaronaldog I’m not sure what my next watch purchase is going to be, which is why I watched this video. I also figure that eventually there will be PS5’s in the store, so I am playing the waiting game on consoles. There’s part of me that would like to be able to say “I own a Rolex” but I’m not going to buy one until I can walk into the dealer, try on options, and choose. (Which may be never)
@@Bemjji I’m assuming the cash/cost price is not an obstacle to you then if you were viewing as a prospective purchase? As you knew that the BB Pro is going to be wait listed, forgive me if I call BS on that being true though. Seems to me you just wanted to have an angry rant (and have now added in Rolex for good measure) about expensive watches. I hope you find something you like that’s just sitting around in a shop window. Be sure to get at least 15-20% off what they are asking for it though.
@@alfieakaronaldog that’s a lot of assumptions 😂. There are plenty of watch enthusiasts that can afford a Rolex and are bothered by the state of the market and playing games with the ADs.
@@joshuadamaceno617 Yes it is a lot of assumptions, but think I mainly assume correctly. Being able to afford a Rolex and actually wanting to buy one are two very different things. Most people moaning in RU-vid comments are not enthusiast’s who would be buying one to own and wear (sorry, another assumption).
I don't think smaller watches necessarily need to be thinner than larger ones (as people are alleging by harking on about "proportion"). I think the visual impact of thickness is actually *reduced* by making the watch smaller in diameter. There is less watch and that makes up for the fact that it's a bit thick. That's borne out by all the video I've seen of the BB Pro - it looks great to me. Pleasantly chunky but not oversized in general.
Just got one on bracelet - wears smaller than a 41 but larger than a 58. The clasp aids in a comfortable fit. I agree…give it a try and you may be surprised. Good review Adrian - balanced and fair.
Having been lucky enough to pick one up the day they were released I agree with what you are saying. I have owned the 41mm black bay before and this wears completely different. Although it’s by no means thin, It doesn’t have the bulk and isn’t too top heavy, partly down to that new clasp allowing you to get the perfect fit! I think lots of people are writing it off based on the numbers, I would recommend trying in person, I think many will be pleasantly surprised 👌🏻😎
Congrats !!! I just made a big purchase for me at least earlier in the year so it might be while before I get another watch buy this is definitely on my radar
I just tried it on at an AD and I was wearing my 126610LN when I went in to try it out. I felt the BB Pro was just to small in diameter, and way to thick compared to its diameter. My god if this watch was 41mm and thinner insta-buy.
I watched your review awhile back, went to my local AD on the 21st of May, to register interest. I got it today full retail very happy Just over 3 weeks waiting. Thanks for your reviews I enjoy your content
Checked out the watch today at our local AD. Somehow it looked cheap. Meanwhile the pictures taken by Adrian are so much nicer than the actual product.
I've a tiny 6" wrist. Tried it on at my AD shop last week and it fits me well. The thickness just melts away and I love how it looks on my wrist. Placed my name down for either a bracelet or rubber strap. Note : I preferred small watches for obvious reason. All my collections are no bigger than 40mm. SO it says something about this Tudor GMT. Have an opened mind and go try it on. One might be pleasantly surprised ü
@@WatchUnwind I am! put my name onto the wish list so if one becomes available I will be buying the bracelet version and then sourcing the rubber strap separately from tudor!
I absolutely love this watch. The size is perfect. Because it's only 39, the height gives it perfect volume. I own many watches but I only wear the pro now I love it so much. Anyone who says this is too thick doesn't know what they are talking about
Tried it on a NATO. It's a great piece. I think you nailed it-even with the extra layer, the thickness wouldn't have been a deal breaker. Feels thinner on wrist than their chrono or even the Pepsi gmt
Y’all need to just wear what you like and get off hodinkee once in a while, black bays aren’t that thick no matter how many internet people say so. It ain’t that serious
I 100% agree with you… if we’re talking about a sub $1k watch. Speaking for myself and probably one or two other people out there, I’d better be in love with the watch if I’m going to spend >$1k-1.5k. That being said. Not all thick watches wear thick, so trying it on is probably the way to go
I totally agree with everything you said... Not only about the watch which I really like but also about the terrible waiting lists and queues...I currently wear a gmt 16710 which is on my wrist for almost 20 years. I want this bb pro as a daily watch I believe it ticks all the boxes.. Sport, elegant, tool, travel...
Got one last weekend. Was amazed how fast i could get one after i finally found a dealer where i could place an order. Got one on a bracelet. I love love love it. I also have a BB58. I am amazed how i lived with without the bracelet adjustment which i use now all the time. I have small wrists. Around 17cm. It fits fabulous. And thickness is a non issue. It is there but not in a bad way. It is also more comfortable than my bb58. But i think this is more due to my sharper edged bb58 than anything else.
Tried this on the leather/rubber strap and it wears really nice on my 7.10 inch wrist. It certainly has a certain presence height wise, however, it isn't noticeable and the 39mm case negates this well. A really handsome, retro but modern watch. If it has been on the bracelet, it would now be on my wrist.
Not too thick at all. I have 6.75 inch wrists. Wears smaller than my Seamaster 300m which is slimmer. Love this thing! Perfect go anywhere do any thing adventure watch.
In case anyone is considering this watch in 2023, after six months, mine had to be sent back due to defective movement, the crown was stuck and wouldn’t wind or move the time or date.
I love Tudor but the case thickness always puts me off ! I owned the reverse panda owned it for a month not only the case but the faux rivets put me off and sold if it was thinner it would be a winner 🤷♂️
I hate the faux riveted bracelet and I know alot others don't like it either. It would be nice if they dropped the riveted bracelet altogether but Tudor seems to love it unfortunately but yeah way to gimmicke or just make a real riveted bracelet. They should have left it like the first black bay that didn't have the faux rivets
Too thick and too heavy. For just over £3000 . Nope not for me. So what if it due to the crystal, overall thickness is overall thickness. And how come this guy never mentions the weight in grams of the watches . That is a key point that most watch reviewers now mention as it is a key indicator of comfort on wrist. That and yes, thickness….Simples.
Tried the Pro on two weeks ago and specifically brought my BB58 for comparison. Needless to say, I am now on the waitlist and had no issue with the weight/thickness. Like others have stated, try it on first and then decide.
The thickness is like a Tudor P01 and I love my p01… very true luxury shouldn’t be wait it should be a buyers experience… thank you for clarifying what is luxury sir… always love the content of your channel…
When I grown up I want to review watches and discuss topics with the smoothness of how Adrian does it 👍🏼! I really need to get hands on with this watch before passing judgement, but so far it’s an absolute winner for me!
Adrian you have managed to articulate my view on this watch better than I could. I heard about this watch and and almost dismissed it as being too thick from the spec sheet. My very kind AD invited me to just take a look at the watch on the bracelet, it's not a thin watch but on the wrist it wore very well indeed and the bracelet is superb (I don't mind the faux rivets, I don't even notice them on the wrist). I now have this watch on my wrist, yes it would be nice if it was thinner but we could say the same for almost all watches. This is now my watch and I'm very happy with it. I have to agree that the lume plots without any surround are brilliant The T clasp is arguably one of the best available on a bracelet, no buttons to push or link clicks to engage it's brilliant. I hope Tudor offer these clasp options for other models in the future, alternatively get a Bark and Jack strap that I may be looking for for my other watches..
Phoned my AD about this watch say three weeks ago to inquire about picking it up. At the time, she said they hadn't seen any come into the shop yet and definitely not on bracelet (which is what I was requesting). So, yeah, you know it...the list. But this tale has a happy ending and that's why I'm sharing. She called yesterday to let me know the bracelet version is in and it's mine if I want it. It'll be on my wrist Thursday. The point? The wait was minimal and this should not end up causing the same frustration as its sister brand and its nebulous lists.
Good points about watch dimensions; on paper they may sound a certain way, but in person they can appear differently. I think several measurements are important in how a watch wears. As many know, that’s the case diameter, lug-to-lug length, and overall thickness. That being said, I think layering with thickness can be important too. That’s not going to be reflected in the dimensions, but is apparent when you see a watch in-person. Here you pointed out how the domed sapphire glass adds to that overall thickness. This can make a watch appear thinner than it actually is. Additionally, the sloped bezel probably helps reduce the apparent thickness as well. Nonetheless, I think the slab side of the case will still probably make this watch appear thicker than I prefer.
Just got mine yesterday. Beautiful piece, and I think most people that complain about the thickness are just parroting what they see/hear. When wearing no issue at all.
I tried on both Tudor’s new GMT and they fit well on my 6.5 wrist. Once you put these watches on thy fit like a glove and their thickness is not even noticeable . Go try them on like Adrian said , it’s wears different on the wrist than the specs on paper . I will be ordering both
Really great review. I don't necessarily agree about the rivets, but it's great to see you are still critical now you have connections in the manufacturers etc, really speaks to the integrity of the channel.
Recently, I was working in Windsor, Canada and I just so happen to google while driving out of town luxury watch ADs and found a gem. They had all three versions of the black bay pro... For sale! That said and after being spoilt with endless customer service I choose this fantastic timepiece on the hybrid strap as it just suited me and my personality. Initially, the salesman advised the bracelet. However, seeing all three on my wrist he agreed that the hybrid was more suited. He even brought over another one of his colleagues and he even agreed so “cash me out please!” I’m so happy! And I barely notice it’s thickness. I kind of like it! It’s a tool watch after all. This has been my favourite luxury watch purchase due to the experience since 2007 when I bought my Rolex Sub 50th anniversary. I hate these silly nick names and refuse to call it a Kermit. Effing stupid. Ps, I’m loving the your podcast, mate. Congratulations. Fair play!
Tried this on... As an owner of 2 BB58's (Black and Bronze)... I thought the thickness would bother me... it doesn't. I have a request in with my AD, they only had it on the fabric strap, so I am waiting on a bracelet version. Pumped.
I tried on the Tudor pro , and can’t understand why people are so concerned about the thickness, all other measurements are the same as the bb58 , which is perfect. It’s only a bit thicker but it’s really not that bad , it’s overall a good size and just looks great on the wrist, and your right you must try it on , I have the bb58 and the measurements of the pro was not off putting, I’m definitely getting one . Anyone want a bb58? 👏👏👌
I hated the idea of how thick it was reported to be on paper. Tried it on, and it immediately just didn't matter and I decided then I must have one. Your point about trying it on absolutely rings true. Don't dismiss it, get it on and see how it feels.
Nice video. Never understood the appeal of the Explorer II, but know that it is a highly-regarded watch. This Tudor BBP is a fantastic interpretation (or homage) of its Rolex cousin. I like what the folks at Tudor have done.
Thank you, Adrian. I think you’re best in the entire watch media game hands down. As someone waiting for a call on this - this is some much needed and appreciated perspective! Keep up the good work
Nice watch, affordable and available. I have an average sized wrist and the watch I'm wearing is 42mm and 15.5mm thick with flat sapphire, titanium on a bracelet and I dont even notice its there 130 grammes and nicely balanced, so I think you're right. Dont be put off by the numbers.
A lot of negative comments have been from people who have only seen pictures and the bare specification. They have no right to comment until they have tried it on. The Worn and Wound team approved of it a few days ago, offering the same opinion as you, Adrian. The movement is second to none. I have a Q series GMT and I last adjusted the time in November 2021, when I wanted to have the 24 hour hand on UTC. Prior to that it was how it came from the AD. This watch is accurate to 3-4 seconds a month, and might be even better than that. Thanks for a timely and interesting review, Adrian.
So glad you said " Go try it on ! " So often we make pre-conceived judgements that are just not accurate. However, I would have much preferred to have seen it in a 41mm case. Sadly my son's BB 58 blue is lost on my 8inch wrist, so for me the diameter is the issue . Love the 1655 influence , one of the best Rolex's ever designed . That with the yellow Gmt hand , make it the slightly chubby love child of the 1655 and the Ranger! I do really like it though. Adrian, so agree with you on the waiting list political bull! It's why I will never by a Rolex.
Congratulations you're in the top 10 ish percent of gargantuan wrists. You can wear any watch in production with ease. With great power comes great responsibility.
I’ll admit to posting comments about it being too thick and it is thicker than I like but I’ve been waiting for a simple,clean dial with a date function so I finally decided to go and see one on Saturday, they only had it on the hybrid strap, personally I thick it’s 100% rubber. I decided to buy my first luxury priced watch because the dial and bezel looks gorgeous and the thickness isn’t the deal breaker I thought it would be, for reference I found the pelogos too thick but the diameter was out off my comfort zone Currently the things I’m not keen on are the gmt hand as it probably stands out too much making the watch less intuitive to read at a glance. Also the rubber strap isn’t particularly comfortable as I seem to be between holes for the right fit and it’s a bit squeaky. And as for a pleasurable shopping experience, it wasn’t. The manager seamed great and answered my email very well and he was pleasant in the shop but he was busy when I turned up and I got a different salesman who really takes the joy out of the experience.
I think because it's a 39mm case the thickness ratio looks more pronounced. It's a bit chunky yes, but it's a GMT movement so it will be at this price level. Still a great watch. Try it on the wrist and then decide how it feels. Specific dimensions are not always the deciding factor when wearing a watch.
Nonsense. There are lots of GMT watches at this price level and below that come in around 12mm. Tudor not going back to the drawing board to make a thinner GMT movement was lazy.
First I agree trying the watch on in person is a must if you can. I have a small collection of watches including three Rolex watches purchased before the price boom. I also own one of the original Omega Planet Ocean watches in the 42mm size. The thickness of my Omega is 14.1mm. I noticed this extra thickness over my Rolex watches and feel this watch is easier to bang into things. From my wearing experiences with my watches I look for watches under 13.5mm in thickness. All of my Rolex sport watches are under 13mm and are very comfortable to wear. I tried a 41mm Tudor Black Bay GMT and it felt very bulky to me. I used to own a Breitling but sold it because it was too bulky as well. Thin watches that sit closer to your wrist should be the default for something costing thousands of dollars. The Tissot Gentlemen Powermatic 80 is 11.5mm thick with 80 hours of power reserve at $775. I personally think Tudor has the resources to do better but maybe Rolex wants them to be a step behind. I like the look of the Black Bay Pro.
Thickness is just one parameter. It is the overall case proportion that is important. Thick case with small diameter make the watch look stubby. Whereas same case thickness but larger diameter make the watch looks perfect. So consider all parameters holistically. As mentioned, always try the watch in the flesh before passing any final judgement.
nkuwan You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much
The real spirit of Rolex is on TUDOR now, super happy for that. If people bother's me because TUDOR is the Rolex for poor man , I would say ,Rolex is the Patek P........ for poor man, just in case, I own a Rolex Air King, absolutely love it. I will go for that TUDOR right away.Nice video.
Great update… visited my AD and tried on the pro on the hybrid strap as it was the only one in stock, I was the first to try and placed my deposit for this watch and fingers crossed will be offered to purchase. Great fit and the thickness does not show on the wrist, beautiful watch.
I love the design of this watch and the thickness does not bother me at all. I have an Orfina chrono and it’s a thick watch but that doesn’t bother me. I had the BB GMT for a few years and enjoyed the watch except it never fit right. The lack of adjustment in the old clasp and no half link made the watch feel either too tight or too loose. This claps solves that issue. The faux rivets weren’t bad either. You really don’t notice them wearing the watch. This is a watch I see myself picking up at some point and I can’t wait to try it on.
Tudor fanboy and also a Rolex one! The more I saw it and eventually got my hands on it, the less I liked it. Tudor , the only brand to be forgiven for making a Clomage! But adding a handset that lets be fair should be only on dive watches is an easy way to distract your thoughts Adrian! Watch is way too thick on my wrist , can be forgiven as a Chronograph but not a GMT.
@@BarkandJack Absolutely. The Explorer II made a lot of us hanging so I bought a TAG Heuer WAZ1112.BA0875 while waiting but now…now I can get the Black Bay Pro and switch the Explorer to a white dial instead.
I've owned a Tudor BB GMT since 2018 and BB58 Navy since 2021. They wear different but both are great. I like that one watch is slightly bigger and utilitarian. The other is slighter and works with smarter outfits. Variety is the spice of life.
My AD told me they wouldn't have one to even look at for at least 2 months. Yet these are showing up on the grey market already at a 2k price premium. I guess they are really taking the Rolex family business practices to heart.
I love this watch. Just bought it, comfy wise its very comfortable to wear. Regarding thickness i dont think its an issue. The look is amazing. Will surely become a classic watch.
If I had your collection - I might actually be happy with a two-watch rotation, as I feel like the Explorer and Explorer ii are an incredible duo. With that said, I do like the new BB Pro. I’d be more inclined to seek it if it had a white dial, though.
I'm wearing a Seiko Marine Master 300, 15.4 mm thick. Fits like a dream. I'm going to give this new Tudor a try. Hope they won't be scarce like the original Tudor Pepsi, anyone remember that? Such a challenge to get one the first year after it came out.
If you like this look then I think the GS SBGE283 / 285 is a much better option. Better case dimensions, better finishing, great materials and movement - and available so you don't have to deal with all the Rolex / Tudor BS
I decided to check it out. It’s the new release, right. The movement is probably great but I’m not sure about the dimensions and the bracelet. I’m personally not fan of polished elements on a bracelet...
Never once while wearing a watch did its thickness ever cross my mind. I find it interesting it’s such a talking point right now. Like I know some of my watches are thicker than my others but it was never something I factored into my decision making
Have you ever tried on a James Cameron Deepsea? I have a Submariner, an old Explorer II, a Tudor GMT and a Speedmaster. I tried on the JC Deepsea and its thickness is ridiculous. Looked a nice watch but absolutely horrid on and for that reason would never buy.
@@chops6890 I have and to tell you the truth that didn’t bother me either. I am a bigger guy who lifts a lot of weights so for my size and shape I think I notice case size a lot more than I notice thickness.
I do love your take on the whole waiting list BS, your spot on with that. I think I woud definitley go for one of these and probaly fit it with a flat AR coated saphire cryatal, if there is sufficient space. Will have to get one and take it apart to have a look. having had the Black Bay GMT for a while now, and loving it, this looks to be the way to go.
It's a great looking watch that's for sure. I haven't seen one in the flesh but if it is like the other Black Bay models then, for me, the actual thickness isn't a problem - it's the way they wear it. I love the Tudor GMT but I tried one on and it's just so slab sided that I found it clumsy looking. Same for the original Black Bay. If the case was sculpted somehow (like a Yachtmaster for example) I think it would hide the dimensions more elegantly.
In many ways, Tudor makes the old Rolex watches we all want but can’t buy anymore. If they made a watch like this but in the likeness of the 1016 I think we’d all buy one in a heartbeat.
There are more Tudors that I want now than there are Rolex. I love them. I’m wearing a BB58 right now. I’m buying another Tudor next week, and another after that as soon as I can save the cash.
In 97.56% of cases, if you think a watch is too thick, it probably is. I gave the Tudor Pepsi GMT a shot, and it was exactly as thick as I thought it would be, I just tolerate it for the bezel.
Wait... at the end of the video you mentioned a place where I can buy a NATO strap, but I missed it! haha Great video Adrian. My AD called me to let me know that one of these came in today so I'm hoping to get over there after work to check it out. This may be perfect since I really miss my 16570!
Thanks for the info dude, just a small note - The brown and black Tudor and Rolex watches are ‘root beer’, the ‘Pepsi’ variants are blue and red. Definitely prefer the root beer out of the two
I don't get why people complain about rivets on the bracelet, most argue that it is there just for looking vintage and not having any function. But Rolex Datejust with Fluted bezel is just the same, the fluted bezel once had a screw down tightening function. Now it has no function and is only there to look vintage, people don't argue against having that.
Tudor has definitely produced a bunch of heritage Rolex's this time😁 I think the rivets, faux or not, is in keeping with the historical vibe of the watch and I like them a lot
I actually prefer the "bad lighting" for content, because they're much accurate on how the watch looks like in real life.. Over polished pictures is a bit too cheugy now in 2022
