Tudor's Perfected Pelagos? Fashionable New 39mm (Critique) 

What are your thoughts around this new model? Edit: My overall opinion about the 39mm is it’s beautiful. For all the criticism I give this model line (mainly to do with its change of course compared to the earlier models) I mention at many points how stunning the piece is. It’s obvious. Looking at it again a day later, it’s mind-blowing to think that we’re now seeing a 39mm Pelagos (how will the BB58 survive in the future with a proposition like this?) At its core I believe the Pelagos has always been about professionalism and not flashiness. It’s a watch that deserves to be larger in size, burly and experimental. I feel that the process of removing things has turned this new model line into another addition to the catalogue instead of something that stands out (meshing the lines between the casual Black Bay and the hardcore diver)

Tudor is in the business of selling watches and the fact that this will sell like hotcakes is the most important pushback to your crits. This time, I think you're being too harsh. Call it Pelly Light if you like, but it opens the door of Pelagos ownership to people who loved the image but found the 42mm version too much watch to wear. Let's be honest, how many "Real Pelagos Owners" have taken their 42mm down even 20 metres underwater?

It’s not polarizing at all. It’s nearly perfect.

This is easily the most perfect diver out there for me. Perfect dimensions, bang-on bracelet adjustability, no date, etc. it would make sense to rebrand the 42mm the “Pelagos Professional”. The Pelagos 39 will be my next dive watch down the road. With respect, I think you’re over-analyzing this one, IDGuy.

A very smart move by Tudor, making a more compact, thinner version of the great Pelagos that will appeal to a wider audience of watch fans. Having the outstanding in-house COSC movement, essentially from the Tudor BB58, but curious why the MC5400 previously used on exhibition case back models like the 925. Offering a titanium bracelet with the T-Fit clasp and a complimentary rubber strap is a big plus. If they add alternative dial colours to the range this may well give the Omega SM300 Diver a proper run for its money as a more tool-like alternative.

An awesome release from Tudor they actually listened and gave the people what they want . A versatile and aesthetically pleasing and functional timepiece . Great business model

I love it, especially the red lettering without a date. It is the chef's kiss! My favorite Pelagos was the FXD, but now it is the 39. This is the Tudor Sub for 2022. Should be a runaway best seller.

Sounded like a 9min video of buyer's remorse. They gave us EVERYTHING we wanted. Smaller case, no date, red line text...and yet people will still find a reason to complain. Btw this watch isn't for me, my wrists need a larger size case, but I can still appreciate the appeal and need for the masses. Bravo Tudor

The new clasp looks incredibly smart to me. One of the things I like most about my 42mm Pelagos ETA is the interaction of the indexes and angled chapter ring. I get that a smaller diameter means they had to do away with this, but for me, this watch has slightly less character.

The 39 Pelagos will be the Tudor “Sub” of their “Sea Dweller” (the 42mm Pelagos). Some of the language is lost because they started with the bigger model. Yes, a bit boring, but a home run in my view. No date is better for the dial’s symmetry and rarely needed in a dive watch. I agree they should have started with this one, but better late than never. I think it’s the go-to watch for anyone thinking the new Rolex Sub or other dive watches too large. I get the “Pro” feel of the 42mm, but show me a Pelagos that used “once” its helium escape valve 😜. Thanks for the video!

This piece is going to be one of the best sellers for Tudor. It's going to give the BB58, which is a great watch to begin with, a run for its money

It is excellent. Looks great, does hit every mark, amazing value. It works, it is just another extra Pelagos and is desirable. I don't think they have made any mistake releasing this. No date needed. I also prefer my FXD, but the T-Fit does appeal, I liked it on the BB Pro, pity that was too heavy / unbalanced.

sometimes simplicity actually works, this 'stripped-down' version of Pelagos feels like a baby-step up BB58, and I am absolutely love it. if they make it in stainless steel and no sunburst anything, it will sit right next to my 925 asap.

Owner of a recently purchased FXD here, previous owner of a classic Pelagos (ETA version bought in 2013 - sold in 2015), with a long history with vintage Tudor's (94010, 79090). I wouldn't trade my FXD for the 39mm Pelagos, for the same reasons you mentioned, but I find it fantastic nonetheless. And I am strongly considering getting one for my wife, to complement her blue dial Black Bay 36 for her sporting activities (swimming, sailing, hiking). I am surprised people do not see the filiation between this model and the mid-sized (36mm) Tudor Submariners or Mini-Sub's from the 80's and 90's. It's completely in the same spirit. If anything at all, Tudor are very consistent with their history.

Was waiting for your video on this! Wooooo!

I just acquired a pro a few weeks ago and thought I was all set with my Tudors in the collection. Now I need to start saving for this release. Absolutely love it.The bigger size was the only thing holding me back from the previous versions. I have a feeling this going to be hard to get for a long time, so should help me on the saving money front. Great video and thoughts on this as usual! Really enjoy your videos.

Tudor is clearly listening to us. As an owner and daily wearer of the BB58, I do find it very elegant, with its case size, rose gold accents. It’s almost delicate in its design. I suppose, since I work in an office style environment but I also jump in our pool with my daughter right after work it really is the perfect daily wearer. That being said, I take my BB58 on all-day fly fishing trips where I’m casting, getting wet, banging it on rocks… etc and have found myself wanting something less shiny (glare is an enemy in fly fishing) and so started looking at the Omega 300M Bond (the titanium one). I also wanted something slightly less flashy when we travel overseas. Now that I see the 39mm Pelagos on rubber, it would serve as my real tool watch while my BB58 is now my “nicer” watch (even though it’s cheaper!).

My biggest gripe and you mentioned it, was the lack of matte dial and bezel, it's a pelagos, and every other pelagos has these matte features, why would they depart from that?

I think this is about as close to a Tudor submariner as they are willing to go. I’m on the waitlist but I have to see it on my wrist before deciding to buy. Chances are likely I’ll be underwhelmed and just stick to my Submariner and dive computer! Best regards

I’ve been hoping Tudor would revive the submariner line (crown-guards design circa 1960’s-1990’s) for a while now. Now you have your choice of aesthetic with Tudor- vintage or modern. If Tudor wants to continue to conquer the world, 1) make these reasonably easy to get at retail; 2) put the t-fit clasp on all models.

I think it's basically perfect. Only thing I would change is to make the bezel and dial matte instead of sunburst/brushed but that's really being picky. This is basically a modern Tudor Sub and honestly something I would consider saving for.

I wondered whether you had regrets having bought the fxd, but that question has been answered now. I ‘d prefer a larger size for this Pelagos. 41mm. It has lost its tooly character as well. 200m wr is standard. I expect the fxd to be discontinued soon, next year maybe. Great content of this vid. Red date window it is!

I was due to pick up an FXD but this has changed my mind! Love the LHD but couldn’t get over the thickness when I tried it on. 39mm is my ideal size.

Great assessment! I think you nailed it!

Have had the blue Pelagos for 5 years now, I am on the waiting list for this one. stunning piece

Brilliant, honest, and well thought out take on this new watch. It is not as professional as the original, or the FXD. It is definitely more at home on the beaches of Saint-Tropez than diving off a rig in the North Sea. But it has a place and I love it. Especially in these times of over inflated and at times, over rated Rolex’s (value for money) - I never thought I would be saying that 🤣. I think the design has hit a sweet spot. Most of us will never dive beyond 40m, it is attainable, great value, you can wear it anywhere, it still has a tool watch vibe, and I have ordered one 😁 I hope you are well and congratulations on another stunning video 👏🙏🥃

You make such a good point. The Pelagos has always been the quirky Professional Dive Watch. I've owned my Blue Pelagos 42mm since 2015 and it is still my go to watch. This new 39er doesn't meet the standards of the past. Like you I really like this new 39mm but no Ballerina would "Dare to Wear (TM)" my 42mm. I guess now they have their chance at 39mm. Great, off the cuff video. Makes a lot of sense to me but I'm a long time Pelly owner and still in love with it.

Great review as always! I always base my decisions off of your input.

Hi ID Guy. Have a great week. Love your videos

I don’t agree with your criticisms it is an absolute banger. If you want a professional watch get the Pelagos 42 or FXD.

I agree with everything you said, but I think you're wrong. This release represents an expansion of the Pelagos line, not a replacement. I think there will always be a hardcore, tool driven, 500m, experimental Pelagos in conjunction with this more everyday line. It is now up to the consumer which world their Pelagos plays in. Another banger vid, cheers.

A no date red Sub for 3500 quid I’m all for that and a perfect travel watch for myself personally. Called the AD already apparently there is a “waitlist”.

Great insight and analysis as always! I think this Pelagos 39 is simply stunning! It “fixes” the things I personally don’t like about the Black Bay 58, namely the gilt hands and indeces and the clash of snowflake hands with round indeces. I fully accept I’m very much in the minority by not loving the regular Black Bay 58 but the heart wants what it wants (or doesn’t want in this case 😂). It is essentially the reissue of the Tudor Submariner in all but the titanium case and bracelet and the size surely means it will fly off AD shelves. You do raise a great point in how this watch being part of the Pelagos line is actually quite confusing. As you pointed out, the Pelagos was the professional diver range and the Black Bay represents the more vintage or dressy/desk diver end of the catalogue. Now the Pelagos is a large fully capable, HEV loaded, titanium cased dive watch, a civilian issue version of a watch designed for and with the Marine Nationale and now this 39mm variant which is, as you said shares more in common with the Black Bay line than the Pelagos. It’s similar to what happened to how I internally categorised the Black Bay Pro once Tudor announced the return of the Ranger. Surely the BB Pro would make more sense (at least in comparison to Rolex and the Explorer II it so resembles) if it was the Ranger Pro or Ranger II as opposed to being part of the Black Bay range 🤷‍♂️ Either way, I really want one! 😂

This watch literally addressed ALL issues that held me back buying the Pelagos so far.

Owned the 2 liner pelagos years ago. I really liked that watch but sold it because I couldn't get used to the size. I remember praying for Tudor to release the same thing but sized down. It seems like the DNA has totally changed. I agree 100% with the points you've made. Unfortunately it seems like this is the perspective of a smaller group enthusiasts of the Pelagos line. Props Tudor who they've managed to lure in the masses who see differently. I'll continue to enjoy my BB58 and give this one a pass.

A brilliant design with a few forgotten features, but again, perfect doesn't exist in the watch world. I appreciate your commentary and agree with most of things stated, but how many wrist really need a professional pelagos...I'd still love one, but this new release is a welcomed piece. Cheers.

100% with you! I like the new word you invented. Fits right in for this new model. That being said. If Tudor wants to avoid being known mostly for the Black Bay line. This is the right way to do it, IMO. Reminds me of AP's Royal Oak. Who wants a one- trick pony?

I wouldn't mind having the fully graduated bezel from the FXD on this one, but I think they've done a fairly good job here. They still have the square lume plots and those are essential. I don't think any watch should have snowflake hands without square lume plots. This combination makes sense and gives the watch purpose. And with the new size and sticking to titanium, it's pretty much a killer combo. The red writing.... maybe it's wrong, but it looks good. Also, Omega uses it on it's latest brown no-date Bond Seamaster, so why not on a Tudor?

Last pic uff! The LHD red date wheel would have made this a piece perfection imo. Hopefully it’s in the works. Interesting take and great vid once again!

The satin sunburst ceramic bezel has a similar shine/shimmer you get on Rolex’s only more subtle. I think parked next to the sub this looks more interesting, more sporty less dressy. I really do like!

I don't really agree with your opinion BUT I'm more than happy that you give us your honest opinion with your own thoughts!! So continue like that!!!

I have a BB58 and more recently an FXD, tried the 39 Pelagos on this week, decided to take it and will pick up next week, BTW did you have an issue with the original Velcro strap loosing its “stickiness” ? What strap do you have on your FXD? Enjoying your review even if I don’t totally agree 😊

It's going to sell 50:1 against the standard Pelagos, and will pull additional folks away from even the BB58 who don't want a "vintage feeling" watch. While this one isn't for me, they should have gone with a brushed ceramic bezel, not titanium. I'm not sure how well that'll hold up over the years to scratches. Good size for the vast majority of wearers out there.

I think it looks like a great watch, definitely top of my buy list. I think the thing that’s “missing” is the fact it’s got mass appeal because there’s nothing quirky or annoying about it!

Love the fact that it's non-date. For me, though, 39mm is a wee bit too small for a dive watch.

It’s wierd how much we agree on things. It’s a lovely watch… which is exactly the issue!!! You’re bang on in that this is too “nice” a watch to retain any of the character of the line. On its own standards, the 39mm is great - beautifully made, filled with awesome tech at a great price with mass-appeal and will sell hugely. Problem is… the Pelagos line offered something truly different. Something decidedly “unmass-appealing” (not a word I know 😂) As I offered in our exchange in your (also bang on) Ranger critique, the Pelagos line and the Heritage Chronos are really for me the only pieces in modern Tudor that have any real interest and personality… everything else is a Rolex homage as a variant of the Bland Bay. This is a massive win for Tudor. The death of what we’ve known to be the Pelagos. Thank god for Breitling and IWC. 😇😉

Everyone wanted the modern day snowflake or submariner and this it is .I always wanted a pelagos buts it’s to big for my 7 inch wrist but this 39mm is perfect for me. Granted some of the tools that made the pelagos so good have been lost buts it’s so much more wearable. Great vid by the way 👌🏻

The best review to date of an important new watch from Tudor. I am a great fan of Tudor watches with a GMT and BB Black but I won’t be on the wait list for this watch. 39mm is too small for me, I tried the BB58 against the larger BBs. I am waiting for a Pelagos FXD and a Panda Chrono perhaps this new launch might speed up my wait. I agree with some of the early comments, it will be a very popular watch with different additions to come.

I, for one, am very pleased with this new 39mm Pelagos. The only thing I will complain about is the loss of date. What's the point of being edgy and experimental if nobody buys the watch? This new model hits all the sweet spots. Now, we just need that blue! 💙

Oh snap! Fascinating perspective, and I think I concur.

Interesting take. Nice video.

Good morning Mr Guy, I don't think that Tudor has "Black Bayified" it so much as "Rolexed" it. It's moved away from the hard core tool watch design to the luxury tool watch design, rather like the Sub has done. It's immensely capable but has more of a luxury character. The advertising suggests that it will be marketed as a unisex watch... I like it, but it won't be replacing my Black Bay 58. Thanks for another thought provoking video. 😀

I like this a lot! My only recommendation would be to reduce the text under Pelagos name for an even cleaner look. "Officially Certified" is not needed, I believe that is a given as a Chronometer. I currently have the 42mm Pelagos, but when this nondate model comes out in 42mm, I will definitely pick one up.

Love it, never thought I'd willingly end up on a waitlist for a Tudor. For me, it bridges a gap between the BB58 and the 42mm Pelagos that prevented me from actually wanting to own either. With the BB58 I can't get over the faux rivets and lack of adjustable clasp. I prefer the dial of the Pelagos (because I feel square and rectangular indices are more cohesive with "snowflake" hands) and I like its adjustable clasp, but I couldn't get over the size and especially the thickness.

Thanks for the analysis - I agree with the general line of the comments ... the Pelagos is a chunky tool watch. Scaling it down takes away from that. I was just hoping for a green or burgundy iteration.

Another YT channel said that the larger Pelagos was never too popular - too big, too thick for most people. I never wanted other Tudor watches as I always thought they were too vanilla. But this watch looks perfect and this is the first Tudor that I want.

When I initially saw the relase, I was thrilled. When I took a 2nd detailed look, I realized it wasnt the real tool the initial pelagos is, and that was the main reason I wanted to buy it, and I would have if my wrists were just a bit bigger.

Thank you for the thorough review. However, I love this piece. I’ve never thrown around the word “the perfect watch” but this is the first watch I’ve listed after instantly. Having recently sold my all around Tudor Black smiley, this will now become my travel, daily, and adventure watch. I hope people agree with you and no one buys it. Haha.

Nice content. Nice video mate. 🥃

I swear to God, your thumbnail render is EXACTLY what Tudor should have made. IDGuy, you are ON IT!

I think it looks great, I picked up the BB Pro about 2 months ago and I absolutely love it. I really like the direction Tudor is going. Like you, I believe this is Tudors version of the Sea Dweller and I also feel like the BB58 is their version of the Submariner, as I looked at the BB Pro like an Explorer ll and possibly the Ranger as an Explorer l. So I think those customers who want a Tudor version of the Sub, they have the BB58, which I believe they will update hopefully early next year. If they add a bigger crown like the one on the Pro and bezel, bracelet and clasp like that of the Pelagos 39 but in stainless steel, it's going to be hard to keep it in stock. Thank you

It’s more a titanium black bay than a Pelagos. As you said, the Pelagos is Tudor’s Sea Dweller, Planet Ocean, it’s muddied the water. What they have done however, is listened to the thousands of woman that wanted a smaller Pelagos, or the man with ladies wrists.

Definitely safe but after seeing it in person, it is great. I believe what sets it apart is also the sunburst dial. It really looks different under the light and even the bezel glistens a bit under the light. I can also appreciate that the bezel is a bit wider than the case as it is roughly 39.8 mm….for someone with a 7.25” wrist, it doesn’t wear too small, especially compared to the Black Bay 58 with it’s much narrower bezel. I agree that I am also not a fan of the marketing but this watch will be a hit. Keep up the great work!

When are we getting a 44mm LHD no date Pelagos with 2k WR? 😁

I love it, and would be receiving mine soon from my AD.

Certainly beautiful and the T fit clasp and no rivet bracelet look so good. Will have to try one on to see if 39mm is on the small side for me (7.5 inch wrist). If it is then maybe the 42mm Pelagos then.

I have a different opinion, this watch is just perfection. We need to give credit to Tudor that they have finally released a very balanced watch; the Pelagos we have been asking for many years. It will become a classic in the years to come. I have the Pelagos LHD and I love it as a technical tool. This is the all round version (same approach from Rolex for the SeaDweller and the Submariner no date). Be sure that Tudor will release a version with the date, a version with the blue dial and on an on in the next years. I will buy this one for sure.

They knocked this one out of the park mate, best pelagos to date

I think you're bang on, agreed with pretty much all your points. The design language here isn't entirely cohesive. I think that fans who have been waiting for a Pelagos in BB58 dimensions are so excited about it finally existing, that they overlook these non-cohesive elements because they are enamoured and almost blinded to the downsides of this VERY hyped new Tudor. What many consider a preferable smaller diameter and thinner case height don't mask the loss of that true, concentrated Pelagos essence. This watch is basically like a slightly watered down Pelagos. It's is the blended whisky to its older sibling's single malt.

Hi! Love this piece. It is the ultimate modern Snowflake. It's the perfect everyday watch for my lifestyle: from work to the beach to the boat, without being too expensive so that I'm afraid of using it. Love it. Also loved to get it! What I don't like is the marketing of this new toy: not a bond with the past and modern DNA but just a fashionable item, something that does not belong to the Pelagos

Is the titanium lighter or still dull dark grey?

Would a Pelagos FXD 39 make sense as a future release?

I think it's brutality handsome! What it trades for professionality it gains in rugged good looks. Love the no date! Tudor is leading the watch industry at this point....

Excellent piece, sir. Once again we are reminded that us enthusiasts are but a tiny part of a large watch brand's mind. This release appears to have been produced by an algorithm based on the RU-vid and Instagram comments sections on watch channels, minus all the bits that make us enthusiasts in the first place; the quirks, annoyances and unnecessary frustrations presented by most tool watches' 'HEAVY INDUSTRY' factor. It's perfectly proportioned for male and female, it has no confusing He escape valve, it's no more water resistant than is necessary, it has an attractive effect on the dial, it isn't uncomfortably thick or oddly weighted. It's a gender-neutral Land Rover Defender on slick tyres. And I want one.

You might be overthinking this release. It’s THE Tudor Submariner and the 42 Pelagos models are still in the catalog. BTW, your content is really impressive.

Great video, I like it. If you think about it there is never a perfect watch. No matter what the brand or the price there would always be something you would change after wearing a watch for a few months. As a everyday work tool watch and a watch you could wear surfing or up the mountains this new Pelagos ticks a lot of boxes, and being titanium it would be almost unbreakable. Very much liking the other channel 👍

I found Tudor advertising for this watch to be very confused. Notwithstanding the odd marketing, I love this watch and will be purchasing at the earliest opportunity!

I just picked one up, I keep forgetting it’s on it is so well done lololol I have smaller wrists, it’s a total home run for me :)

Mate, your comments are bang on. I was initially excited for this watch when I learnt about the release. But in the 24 hours since, I've significantly cooled on it because it's just too shiny and where the original Pelagos felt purposeful and focused, this one is full of contradictions. I'm so conflicted now between this watch and the BB58 Navy as to which is the more desirable watch, and I'm leaning slightly towards the BB58 because at least it's got its own identity, whereas this Pelagos 39mm feels almost like a Submariner homage.

ALL the watches in the Pelagos line look great. There’s literally something for everyone now. And this one, with its unique rubber/titanium endlink strap offers a nice bonus. And if you want the original you can still buy it.

"The whole is less than the sum of its parts." For Tudor and many enthusiasts and further for potential mainstream male and female customers this is a great release. Yet, for me this watch is missing something. The Oomph, the pizazz. Mos def keeping my FXD over. This one. / Great vid! Cheers from Germany, Dan

Never bothered giving Tudor a chance until this new Pelagos 39 came out. Probably the only Tudor watch I will ever consider getting

I think its an amazing looking watch and perfect for myself - I just want one quality watch to do it all!!! I doubt 99% of people who buy these watches would ever go diving over 200m anyway, so I think its a great option by Tudor. Divers can still get the 600m verison if they so wish. I love that they give you two straps to dress up or down.

I much prefer the original Pelagos but, I think that this new version will appeal to many people like the Black Bay 58 did. This new Pelagos has the Snowflake dial that the Black Bays have been crying out for. Whether aimed at the ‘Casual Wearer’ or the ‘Worker’ I think that this new version will prove very popular with many who cannot obtain a Submariner. It is a simple daily wearer like you said. How many professional divers still use a Watch alongside their Dive Computer? This new Pelagos could definitely fit the bill for a cheaper budget than a Submariner. Great off the cuff video here Boet. Can’t wait to see the Vintage Chronograph video you’re going to do. ✊

I've had mine for about a week and I LOVE it. Despite the bad marketing, it's most special quality is that it's super focused. It oozes quality and capability, but is also understated and subtle. Makes my fancier Rolex pieces look almost like jewelry for playing dress up, ,whereas this is what you'd wear for real life adventures.

Great thoughts. I’m a fan of the new piece. I like the size, I prefer no date pieces. Nothing to dislike but maybe nothing to absolutely love. Wait for the Hulk, Smurf etc versions 🙃

Got excited thinking it was being sold with the fully graduated minutes bezel like the FXD.

I'll wait for a blue or green version of this baby.

Beautiful watch in a great size. I'm hoping the mad rush to buy them will make it easier for me to buy an FXD at a reasonable price.

As a BB58 owner I never considered the Pelagos, mainly because of its thickness. This new release on other hand, made me very interested in the line and i might be getting one. The large date models are still available for people that don’t like it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

With all due respect, if you want a 42mm professional diver with a helium escape valve, get a Seamaster. It might be a little weird to turn a professional watch into a sleek everyday watch, but I think this is the ultimate desk diver. There's space for this, the other Pelagos varieties, and the various Black Bays in the Tudor collection.

I think you're right to a point. Lets not underestimate the infuence of the Seiko SPB143, it has really impressed with the dark grey dial and bezel insert and I think that Tudor has seen the popularity of this with elements from the original Pelagos and have run with it. I absolutely adore this, but to make it perfect, i'd have it with a date complication and 300m of water resistance. Also, am I right in saying that this replaces the original Pelagos? I think it should complement the 42 mm version. Good review.

I actually dive and have taken my skx007 custom to 40+ meters regularly. I've been wanting a Pelagos LHD for ages, but it's too big for daily wear when I'm on the surface. This one is perfect.

Love this take. Even though I love this 39 release I don’t see it as a smaller version of the Pelagos, a watch I still very much want. I see this as a more affordable submariner to buy and wear until you hit the top of your AD’s sub list.

Impressiv analysis! Like your narrative style, man! My BB58 starts to bore me. I think maaaaybe I will trade it in for the P39. I have asked for a moderne Tudor Submariner - and this is it. Miss the date, though.

Agree with you 💯 I have LHD, FXD and some Bb’s. It’s looks like Pelagos but is completely different to original, that’s main point, of course I should not trade my Pely for that piece but I wanted this one for sure, that’s a point I believe, they want make people new purchase without selling his BB or even Pely, that’s why they make so controversial sunburst dial and bezel 😅 this watch is truly maybe best alternative for subs and this is so powerful driver for selling. I think main customers is owners of bb58, and after FXD they made complete new and successful product line for Tudor, you right is no more professional line, but it’s should work and I’m sure Pely 39 can get incredible success 🤔👍😎

I know a guy who used to own a red sub before he traded it for a vintage Daytona as well as a vintage gmt master (it was a two for one deal) because of this first hand experience, I agree. It's a good start, but it needs a date.

Agree with this. Looks like a BB58 dial variation. Does it still need to be titanium if this small.....? I'd prefer a date on this and the BB58 too. The T Fit was always going to happen on any new Tudor sports watch and should be a retro clasp option for 58 owners already.

Good overview. For me Tudor are working within the constraints of their huge movement issue and by removing the date they’ve been able to keep it thin.

Should I hold out for a gmt version would be a dream