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Episode 694 - Tulkun King (1/2/23)
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It’s finally time to return to Pandora: we review Avatar: The Way of Water. James Cameron expands and improves on his otherworldly saga of colonization and resistance in about every conceivable way, including revolutionary whale violence, CRAB MECHS, and competing visions of eternal life, one blessed & one damned. Saddle up your Skimwing and join us once again in this consciousness-raising blockbuster fantasy world of blue guys.
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@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Год назад
Cameron: Every Frame a Painting Russos: Every Line a Tweeting
@potatopotatow
@potatopotatow Год назад
it is actually adorable how much they love this movie
@michaelgriffiths7679
@michaelgriffiths7679 Год назад
I've listened to thousands of hours of the trap and this avatar review is the happiest, most positive, most un-sarcastic they have ever been.
@theoleadfoot2864
@theoleadfoot2864 Год назад
Unironically since Bernie
@jayanti2371
@jayanti2371 Год назад
their Avatar 1 review is similarly exuberant. that ep is when I fell in love with the boys.
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
They've drunk the salt-water Kool-Aid !
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
I.C.U. 2 !
@berdyderg900
@berdyderg900 Год назад
@@theoleadfoot2864 except movies have a higher chance of saving us than bourgeois electoralism
@hyperionman420
@hyperionman420 Год назад
The Age of Napoleon continues
@caiuscosades362
@caiuscosades362 Год назад
Cameron has come closest to putting the ethos of the 40k universe on the big screen, that humans have cast-off so much of their humanity for endless war that they've practically become more violent, ruthless and threatening than the xenomorphs in Alien ever were.
@Hhunter12
@Hhunter12 Год назад
Part of the reason why the scene when Quaritch holds up his skull is so profound is because it's a reference to Hamlet and the message of immortality/life after death. When Hamlet holds up the skull, he does the famous "life is but a walking shadow" monologue, and the whole message of that monologue is that life is fucking pointless and meaningless. When Quaritch holds up his human skull, he's still coming to grips with the fact that that he was resurrected on behalf of capitalism because he was an investment, and the corporation needs to maximize its return on investment. Forget the fact that the faceless capitalist machine is creating sentience solely to maximize profits. Ethics be damned. So as he's coming to grips with the fact that he's been resurrected in hell (as a demon as the Na'vi call him), by holding the skull like Hamlet does, he's expressing that he thinks life is pointless, which is in part why he crushes his skull in frustration. But as the Chapo guys talk about, throughout this movie Cameron is expressing that life *isn't* pointless, and that if you, thru love and bravery, fight on behalf of the world and those around you, then you will live forever, just not with fountain of youth bullshit. So if Quaritch in Avatar 3, 4, or 5 realizes that life isn't pointless and that he can live forever by devoting his life to fighting against the faceless, ethics be damned, machine of capitalism, then he will switch sides.
@ramonalejandrosuare
@ramonalejandrosuare Год назад
Great post but the "life is but a walking shadow" line is from MacBeth's "Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow.." soliloquy not Hamlet's "Alas, poor Yorrick" one with the skull. Hamlet reflects that even the greatest men, Caesar and Alexander, have come to this, returned to the earth and been transformed into clay. Stoppers for the bungholes in beer barrels are made of clay and perhaps those great men may now be stopping bungholes in beer barrels. That is the case for all of us.
@freealter
@freealter Год назад
The initial landing of the Sky People is Neon Genesis levels of horrifying and the music during that scene is extremely reminiscent of the Evangelion soundtrack
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 Год назад
That’s probably where Cameron got it from. A lot of western directors have taken inspiration from anime’s that they’ve watched, I’m sure.
@grahamcarpenter5135
@grahamcarpenter5135 Год назад
Yup! Even their fucking landing sequence is devastating to the environment...
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
End of Evangelion >>>>> Avatard 2
@R1ck_Ryder
@R1ck_Ryder Год назад
@@kobayashi1194 lmao yeah kid, let’s pretend fucking everything popular in Japan (especially anime) hasn’t completely stolen it from Western media
@caseyremington7162
@caseyremington7162 Год назад
I AM NOW AVATARDED AND NAVIPILLED
@tommyhowsthepeeping
@tommyhowsthepeeping Год назад
I'm in my water arc, I'm eywamaxxing
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler Год назад
I am a proud Avatard
@MichaelSotoCE
@MichaelSotoCE Год назад
Hell yeah
@albaheadtheovertross
@albaheadtheovertross Год назад
It refers to the slowing down of one's revolutionary inhibitions, it's not an ableist slur
@kmered1
@kmered1 Год назад
my girlfriend cried when they killed the whale and then she was literally cheering outloud when payakan and the navi were brutally murdering the whalers
@ryanwbourquin
@ryanwbourquin Год назад
is she on the spectrum?
@anmolt3840051
@anmolt3840051 Год назад
@@ryanwbourquin I guess you have to be on the spectrum to have a moral compass
@GreenEarth20
@GreenEarth20 Год назад
@@anmolt3840051 what an underrated response lmao well done
@borger99
@borger99 Год назад
@@ryanwbourquin Ryan, find a hobby outside of hating avatar on the Chapo RU-vid, please.
@grahamcarpenter5135
@grahamcarpenter5135 Год назад
I'm glad the Chapo boys loved the "humans re-arriving on Pandora" scene as much as I did.
@function0077
@function0077 11 месяцев назад
The orcas (i.e. killer whales) have listened to this episode, and I wish them godspeed!!!
@n0tthemessiah
@n0tthemessiah 11 месяцев назад
Uncritical support for the Marine Life Coalition's jihad against the apes!
@DBXLabs
@DBXLabs Год назад
There’s some extensive similarities between the Dune books and the Avatar movies (not hating on either, just interesting). - messianic protagonist - protagonist is “the wrong guy” - extrasolar planet, currently uninhabitable for humans while another species/group thrives - each planet has its respective “unobtainium,” literal in the case of Avatar. - protagonist is introduced to planetary natives under the pretenses of colonialism - blue - protagonist assimilates with natives and becomes top banana - protagonist rides the biggest and baddest monster - Imperial humanity is successfully combatted, and overcome - one of protagonist’s children possesses even greater supernatural abilities
@ogluster8873
@ogluster8873 Год назад
“Blue”
@ogluster8873
@ogluster8873 Год назад
I think I just thought of a possible similarity. Colonel Quaritch is similar to a ghola. Quaritch could become a great asset to the Navi in the same way Duncan Idaho was to Paul’s (and son’s) efforts.
@DBXLabs
@DBXLabs Год назад
@@ogluster8873 oh shit, you’re dead on
@yourneighbor6152
@yourneighbor6152 Год назад
The whale section of this episode is going into my gym playlist Also I'm making this comment on company time, look at me go
@sickjuicysjamshack3580
@sickjuicysjamshack3580 Год назад
For all the people wishing they were Na'vi, realistically the most they could be in the Avatar Universe is Spider
@wafflepoet5437
@wafflepoet5437 Год назад
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
@sickjuicysjamshack3580
@sickjuicysjamshack3580 Год назад
@@wafflepoet5437I meant in how much he wanted to be a part of the Na’vi but can’t
@wafflepoet5437
@wafflepoet5437 Год назад
@@sickjuicysjamshack3580 I just meant that he’s at least on Pandora.
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Год назад
I'll fucking take it, Spider's a pretty dope dude.
@topraman519
@topraman519 Год назад
Like the Chapo guys say, we live on Pandora. We are the Navi of this planet. There’s no need to fantasize about anything. Life on Pandora isn’t easy for most Navi, and life on Earth isn’t easy for most humans.
@OwenOrsini
@OwenOrsini Год назад
Felix is so unbelievably real for referencing Armored Core AND Zone of the Enders in the same sentence.
@Mushubeans
@Mushubeans Год назад
This movie works because they made it *real*.. the texture resolution in this second film is fucking INSANE. There were a few frames when the older brother Neteyam was smiling and I was seeing every gradient of white-to-yellow with slight chips and stains on his cat teeth. The Na'vi skin has more density, more pores and layers than the first movie and the amount of expression they were able to get with face mocap blows the first one out of the fucking water..
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
Yeah it looked incredible. Flawless.
@collindysart6472
@collindysart6472 Год назад
Waiting to see it in 480p, as Allah intended.
@Black_pearl_adrift
@Black_pearl_adrift Год назад
Dude idc it was so good in 3d I hope one day you can see it as Cameron intended
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 10 месяцев назад
Praise God 🙏🙌
@anselmweber6749
@anselmweber6749 10 месяцев назад
120p I'd all you need
@yourneighbor6152
@yourneighbor6152 Год назад
I can't enjoy the movie at my dead end job but I can be radicalized endlessly by its review. I was looking forward to this review for so long
@Krona-fb4dn
@Krona-fb4dn Год назад
One detail I noticed and appreciated with the Ahab guy and Payakan is that Payakan lost half of his one fin. Which he returns the favor by cutting off half of the whaling guy's arm.
@jayanti2371
@jayanti2371 Год назад
... before killing him
@jakezonis17
@jakezonis17 Год назад
A+
@rossfromfriends8468
@rossfromfriends8468 Год назад
All the Sci fi vehicle tech was so cool that I had to keep reminding myself It was being used for genocide. And that's def on purpose. I grew up in the jingoistic post 9-11 world with games and movies glorifying and sanitizing the reality of american conquest. It was so intense then that me and many of peers wanted to enlist for reasons that had no bearing in reality. If you are my age you have only seen America's wealth be utilized for just what's happening in the movie. I hope that the later movies show more what life is like for humans off world.
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic Год назад
That crab mech was a cool AF design, though.
@sudevsen
@sudevsen Год назад
Sun Tzu says about the The Way of Water - "If you want to live here,you must ride"
@seth6787
@seth6787 Год назад
I don't know if Avatar 2 was some transcendent piece of art or whatever but I went on a couple edibles and it's the only movie I've ever cried at. The whaling scene just hit in a way no other "sad" movie ever has.
@lewa9575
@lewa9575 Год назад
The punishment in that scene never ended
@anmolt3840051
@anmolt3840051 Год назад
I always used to wonder why Avatar re-releases made such a surprising amount of money, but then I rewatched it again before watching the sequel and it became instantly clear
@PostYourJaggahog
@PostYourJaggahog Год назад
Oh fuck yes I been waiting for this. The first avatar episode was a light in a dark time for me.
@robertkarnick1286
@robertkarnick1286 Год назад
To all the naysayers who claim Avayar has no “cultural relevance” and no memes about it, it’s because it’s a true work of art that has to be met with respect, experienced in one’s own mind on a personal level. Like the mighty Tulkun, you can’t just drill into the movie and extract the meme juice
@BathtubEnjoyer
@BathtubEnjoyer Год назад
"but what about muh dank memes" they shout in raspy reddit voices
@BigDawg-if7ti
@BigDawg-if7ti Год назад
I’m not watching a revised titanic or it’s sequel, thank you very much.
@Inuhater
@Inuhater Год назад
Matt has taken the SincerityPill
@potatopotatow
@potatopotatow Год назад
as should we all
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
And he's a better man for it and you know it ... Bum.
@smonkedweed7414
@smonkedweed7414 Год назад
I think Matt’s been sincerity pilled for a pretty long time, most of his Cushvlogs going back to 2020 are sincere and he’s criticized crappy irony poisoned culture for years now.
@sperez5402
@sperez5402 Год назад
I saw a tweet were someone said james cameron was a real life equivalent of a Shonen protagonist since everyone was doubtful that he could make avatar 2 well he really believed In this movie.
@willsladich9482
@willsladich9482 Год назад
Why do so many people think this praise of avatar is ironic or joking? Has passion died? Has the immortal soul of the mortal withered away into dust? Shame on all the nay sayers found here, liberate your mind or perish alongside all the rest.
@BlueSkullFish
@BlueSkullFish Год назад
Because the movie is not good. The first one is fine, the second one is boring, predictable, and uninspired
@willsladich9482
@willsladich9482 Год назад
@@BlueSkullFish sad
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
Oh my god lol
@technologic21
@technologic21 Год назад
Hollywood is dead. James Cameron is the closest thing we got to what Lucas, Spielberg and others once did. While I'm not an Avatar fan, I do give him that.
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
@@technologic21 nolan, tarantino, scorsese, GEORGE MILLER
@bun197
@bun197 Год назад
lmao at reddit absolutely melting down over avatar in the comments of this
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Год назад
It's really sad to see, you'd think CTH fans would be better than this reddit tier navel gazing. I bet they've never even posted hog or read Carl Max.
@BlueSkullFish
@BlueSkullFish Год назад
You have to be redditor to dislike a sloppy, boring movie?
@bun197
@bun197 Год назад
-sloppy explain. how? it’s wonderfully directed and the script is extremely tight -boring ADHD
@BathtubEnjoyer
@BathtubEnjoyer Год назад
@@BlueSkullFish if you think avatar is "sloppy and boring" because it doesnt appeal to your *intellectual tastes* then yeah, you have reddit brain
@BlueSkullFish
@BlueSkullFish Год назад
@@BathtubEnjoyer lmao learn to think and speak without memes. I don’t know what “Reddit brain” means. The movie is both sloppy and boring, sorry bud. Too many characters, not enough development, cheap “oh no the kids” stakes in the action scenes. Trite Vietnam war imagery for cheap sympathy, moustache twirling villains saying things like “I love killing a mother in front of her baby, and then I only use the smallest part of the body!”
@bsh819
@bsh819 Год назад
Damn i wanted more tulsa king
@bighomiegayass1917
@bighomiegayass1917 Год назад
It’s commin, brother
@ericfurman5227
@ericfurman5227 Год назад
RIP Gangsta Boo
@ownificationify
@ownificationify Год назад
This movie is beautiful and is a harbinger of international revolution. 3rd viewing tonight Imax 3d regal unlimited bitches
@yemo34
@yemo34 11 месяцев назад
Little did they know. The big blue dommy mommy memes would continue till morale improved.
@melchior7346
@melchior7346 Год назад
Seems like most people like avatar, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Most people seem to like it save for two groups, marines and ex military dudes, which makes sense to me. Then certain segments of the online left, which doesn’t. People seem legitimately mad or think they’re being trolled by Chapo because they like it? I do not see you.
@nicanornunez9787
@nicanornunez9787 Год назад
Lol for real? Are they mad for this. I think they are obviously trolling. Who cares if someone like a movie or not, I can never understand how do some ppl get so personal about it. However I didn't liked the first one, don't think the second one is going to be doing much for me.
@elaikehler6030
@elaikehler6030 Год назад
i’ve met many a military/marine dude who likes avatar for the scenes where the marines blow up home tree very disheartening
@willshogren1987
@willshogren1987 Год назад
It's the same guys who really enjoy the first 3/4 of American History X.
@jnakhoul
@jnakhoul Год назад
Avatar: honey they abducted the kids
@iluvmahname
@iluvmahname Год назад
Contrarian redditors in the comment section showcasing their superiority by dismissing sincerity and earnestness because it's more comforting to embrace lame irony, pathetic!
@bun197
@bun197 Год назад
the movie is bad because nobody on my discord shared memes or porn of it. zero cultural impact!
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
…and clowns in the comments failing to come to terms with others just not liking it.
@collbair
@collbair Год назад
This (distorted) David Foster Wallace take "sincerity =good, irony=bad" is a terrible angle to operate film criticism on. The people that hate avatar 2 are not hating it because of its earnestness.
@BlueSkullFish
@BlueSkullFish Год назад
@@bun197the movie is bad because it’s long, filled with annoying characters that you don’t care about, disjointed, and unoriginal. They literally resurrected the antagonist from the previous movie cause they just couldn’t be bothered to write a new one? And then didn’t even explore the psychology of someone reincarnated in the body of their enemy
@VincentTroia
@VincentTroia Год назад
@@elbowjuice2627 nah it’s that you guys haven’t said anything worth taking into consideration. in an earlier comment you just said it was goofy or something. real deep take man.
@Hud23
@Hud23 Год назад
Didn't know I am not supposed to like Glass Onion. Slamming billionaires is fun.
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler Год назад
Rian Johnson is a good director 🤷‍♂️
@PowerYoutuberViewer
@PowerYoutuberViewer Год назад
Saw it in theaters with my folks in November. Nothing wrong with a goofy mystery flick you can take family to see.
@glennyoungkindid9116
@glennyoungkindid9116 Год назад
People are hating because it's not a "deep" movie. Its message is incredibly ham-fisted, like Don't Look Up. Unlike DLU, it's a fun movie that's not centered around being preachy, but centered around the plot. The message is more of a way to be humorous than anything.
@dg6289
@dg6289 Год назад
@@glennyoungkindid9116 I think the comparison is that Avatar and Cameron are sincere, whereas Johnson and Glass Onion are not. Cameron appreciates and heightens the genre he works in and takes it to its absolute peak. Johnson hates the genre and tries to deconstruct it to the point where Glass Onion isn't even a whodunnit. He's just trying to hide the fact that he can't actually construct a genre narrative, which is why all he adds all of the memeable stuff. He did it in Star Wars and the last Knives Out too.
@albaheadtheovertross
@albaheadtheovertross Год назад
Their criticism is basically right, Johnson is literally Hitler but more importantly Glass Onion is reactionary wokeness. Still fun, just not important in the least.
@frinkanoid
@frinkanoid Год назад
Will Menakur doing the Rod Dreher soyface but over a bowl of Avatar Blu-Rays
@Slop_Dogg
@Slop_Dogg Год назад
personally, i thought there was an underwhelming amount of water. i expected WAY more water, so i'm taking off one bag from my score.
@thefrogstronaut
@thefrogstronaut Год назад
Evidence for Quaritch switching that they missed/didn’t bring up: When he finds his old body as a skeleton in the jungle, he remove the skull and examine it longingly, then crushes it in his palm in what seems to be disgust. To me this is him truly realizing that he as he is now is superior to his former self. He is also the most willing to try things the “native” way when on his journey to find Jake, taking joy in it in a way the other jarheads don’t.
@yourneighbor6152
@yourneighbor6152 Год назад
Dude voluntarily jumped head first into taming the wildlife at risk to his own life. Might be a reach, but maybe that domineering personality mixed with the willingness to embrace the change lent him some favor with the planet
@ImZeroDayz
@ImZeroDayz Год назад
All I want to be is El Chapo
@sudevsen
@sudevsen Год назад
Could've used 20 more minutes of Payakan/Luak spirit bro shit instead if rhe endless drowning.
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 Год назад
So I’m not shocked at all that they liked this tbh. I’ve never had any love for the series up until I saw the first movie recently. (In fact, I saw it for the first time the night before I saw the second one) I LIKED the first one enough. Just a basic natives versus colonizer story with some alien love in there with amazing visual effects. But then I saw Way of Water in theaters and I liked that one way more than the first one. The effects are way better and I liked this story infinitely more than the first one. Kiri really stood out to me as a character more than Jake Sully and Stephen Lang’s Quaritch was a joy to watch. It definitely left a bigger impact on me than anything Marvel as made recently.
@chucklefuck
@chucklefuck Год назад
"I've never had any love for the series up until I saw the first movie recently" So you didn't like it until you actually watched it?
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 Год назад
@@chucklefuck Well yeah, I didn’t know basically anything about it. It’s not that I hated it or anything, I was just indifferent until the sequel was actually coming out. I just said “what the heck, I’ll give it a chance” and I ended up really liking it.
@HighlandChicken
@HighlandChicken Год назад
I don't think Quaritch will switch sides but I definitely think he'll refuse a human body again if offered. I think what's most likely gonna happen is terraforming Pandora fails, so instead they're gonna make human/Na'vi hybrids which are essentially just blue humans with the head-tail who can breathe pandora air, but the upper elites will get full Na'vi bodies.
@garcalej
@garcalej Год назад
I feel in the end, he’s just gonna pull a Kit Carson. Faithfully execute the genocide/relocation his masters want him to do, but in the end also sorta, kinda feel shit about it, though not enough to do anything about it. Also, he will almost definitely marry a Navi women and/or adopt a Navi son to replace the hippie tarzan son who rejected him, only he’s going to rub salt in the wound by de-nativising said Navi son, evangelizing him in the ways of the leatherneck. He’ll come up on him him like “stop talking to those fucking plants, son and take some of this dip. We’re gonna shotgun some Pabst and watch 6 straight hours of NFL highlights.”
@nowaht
@nowaht Год назад
The whole movie is an allegory for adrenochrome harvesting
@n3n3b3n3
@n3n3b3n3 Год назад
literally what i thought of when they hunted down the whale for its brain fluid
@nowaht
@nowaht Год назад
@@n3n3b3n3 the way of frazzledrip
@ogluster8873
@ogluster8873 Год назад
I love listening to these geeks
@treeguyfly
@treeguyfly Год назад
I was skeptical of Chapo’s Avatar love until some guys wanted to go see the new one, so I saw the original online and the Way Of Water the next day. I was absolutely blown away, they were not joking about how great these movies are. The creature design in particular I think doesn’t get enough love because it’s fantastic across the board, but especially in the second one. Absolutely looking forward to 3.
@Mushubeans
@Mushubeans Год назад
I actually drool over the human machinery design. I know the head designer who did the helicopters and the giant shuttle! (his name is Ryan Church if you want to look up his portfolio) It all looks SO real and so.. lifeless. It's not over-the-top menacing, it's just really mean in how brutalist it all is, I guess? I think it's one of the best parts of the movies, second to the creature design.
@treeguyfly
@treeguyfly Год назад
@@Mushubeans yeah when the ships show up in the beginning they’re so foreboding, cold and utilitarian, such a wonderful stark contrast to Pandora’s majesty. The crab submarines were also so cool.
@KoolAidManOG
@KoolAidManOG Год назад
They're good movies
@MichaelCasanovaMusic
@MichaelCasanovaMusic Год назад
@@Mushubeans One thing Cameron does really well is keep his tech designs firmly grounded in reality. Like in the original you could totally buy that the gunships were future developments of modern attack helicopters. AND those power suits from the new one will be the forklift of the future
@roachmasta189
@roachmasta189 Год назад
have not listened to the episode yet but this comment section seems so fucking cynical
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 Год назад
I know. Everyone’s a critic 🙄
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
I do like listening to this but I feel like these guys fleshed out Cameron’s ideas better than Cameron himself. For example, they make Quaritch coming back sound deeper than it is or likely ever will be. In the movie, it felt like a way to just bring him back because why not? However, him not dying at the end made perfect sense.
@jayanti2371
@jayanti2371 Год назад
@elbowjuice I thought the same thing when I first heard Chapo's review of Avatar 1: ie, these boys are waaay smarter than Cameron is. But upon re-listening to that review, the boys themselves point out many details that prove Cameron really IS that smart: the visual similarity of the Home Tree's collapse to the Twin Towers... Ribisi playing office-golf & Quaritch sipping coffee while matter-of-factly overseeing ecosystem destruction... but most compelling: _Sigourney's avatar wearing a Stanford t-shirt._ This is a detail i wouldn't have understood if Chapo didn't explain it to me: soft colonialism. The soft entry that used to be done by missionaries is now done by academics and NGOs. It's recon work. Once you know this, you realise there's no way Sigourney's shirt is an accident. Also, the Avatar 1 movie we all saw was the theatrical cut. I learned of the extended cut from the comments section of the prior Chapo review. It contains scenes that absolutely flesh out Cameron's worldview. For starters, that version begins on Earth, and shows us the soul-crushing BladeRunner-esque distopia it has become. There's also a scene where Sigourney tells Sully about a school she once ran for Navi children. I don't want to ruin it for you, but it would be hard to watch that scene and not see it as a direct message to the audience. I imagine Cameron cut these scenes because he felt they were either too on-the-nose, or he didn't want the movie to become overtly political.
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
@@jayanti2371 i rewatched the first movie after listening to their review and was also surprised at what i discovered. But i feel like everything worked given what the concept of the movie was. But with this one…look, all i’m saying is, when one of Quaritch’s henchmen is a chick who has no dialogue or characteristics other than chewing gum and evil grinning…come on now. Some of the stuff doesn’t work imo and i think it actually bogs it down a bit. The bloat, the retreading of plot points (idc if its a trope, its just boring), the sloppy first hour…that being said, it was cool.
@jayanti2371
@jayanti2371 Год назад
@@elbowjuice2627 my comment was specifically addressing your feeling that some stuff is in the film "because why not?" i guess I'm just saying that Chapo made me realise how deliberate Cameron is. i no longer think that anything in his films (whether we like his films or not) is random/thoughtless. that said, i very much agree with you that the film could have been streamlined and the characters improved. how these big budget movies get made without better script consultants is a mystery to me. anyway, cheers mate. i hope at some point you get a chance to see the director's cut.
@elbowjuice2627
@elbowjuice2627 Год назад
@@jayanti2371 yeah i’ll check it out i always wanted to see that version
@anmolt3840051
@anmolt3840051 Год назад
The "life after death" discussion probably was it. I would not have thought of it
@thomasgiles2876
@thomasgiles2876 Год назад
I think it hit me where this conclusion is going. Now that these Marines are undead Avatars, their memories including deaths can be recorded by Ewa and not humanity, and that can be weaponized at a certain threshold. How many visceral memories of your own painful death would it take for you to give up?
@Black_pearl_adrift
@Black_pearl_adrift Год назад
showed up late to my first vewing, missed like the first 20 minutes but Cameron knows how to tell a story I didn't have trouble catching up.
@langustenwurst
@langustenwurst Год назад
The way of water has no beginning and no end
@davewhite1761
@davewhite1761 Год назад
I have been a VFX supervisor for many years. It is both an inspired and very troubled industry. I think it is one of the great labor battle grounds of our time, where incredible images are created often at the expense of atists' health and family well being. This movie was made by the incredible vfx company Weta Digital. They developed the ability to make this movie over the last 25 years on LOTR. king Kong. Avatar 1.0 , Planet of the Apes, etc. To say James Cameron had anything to do with the quality of the FX is deeply disrespectful to the masterful LABOR that went into this. Weta could have achieved these results with any director. What Cameron provided was the clout and financial backing to buy Weta the time to not rush the process, which is rare.
@fahimhuq2768
@fahimhuq2768 Год назад
That’s as idiotic as saying Cameron could have made this movie with ANY vfx studio.
@davewhite1761
@davewhite1761 Год назад
They have made industry best VFX with many other directors already.
@bobby218
@bobby218 Год назад
I think the point is Cameron did give them the time and resources. Unlike most studios/projects which rush them and overwork them in order to maximize profits. I don’t think it is meant as disrespect. What you see onscreen in Avatar is obviously due to the work of the artists, but Cameron is the gatekeeper (financially) and actually allows them to put their best work up there. Also, denying his innovative use of technologies is really weird. Avatar is collaboration of a lot of factors.
@SwollenHero
@SwollenHero Год назад
I don't think they could have achieved these results with any director; it's exactly that commitment to using his clout to provide the time and money Weta needed for these results that is unique to Cameron. You're also disregarding his absolute commitment to realism that motivated the production to be done as practically as a CGI possibly movie can be: every major prop and costume was designed practically before being recreated digitally; the movie was delayed for a decade to wait for the development of new tech like underwater motion capture, a situation where most directors would give in to the pressure of studio deadlines. So yeah, Cameron doesn't make a movie that looks this good without Weta, but I also don't think Weta makes that looks this good without Cameron. I think your assertion that Weta has made industry standard VFX with other directors illustrates this exactly: the visual immersion of Avatar 2 is well beyond "industry standard."
@5TailFox
@5TailFox Год назад
Explosive tipped harpoons used to be a real thing.
@gringote1783
@gringote1783 Год назад
I finally know what to think about this movie
@refoliation
@refoliation 11 месяцев назад
I think the tulkans can use their second smaller set of eyes to better see things through the wavy surface (either from below up or reverse). They have a secondary sample that is slightly offset from primary and can use their big brains to apply a sort of correction to the image to minimize the noise caused by the chaotic surface lensing.
@refoliation
@refoliation 11 месяцев назад
JC is a camera designer/inventor with special focus in marine photography and binocular 3D so this is something he has thought of I believe.
@imoldgregg7009
@imoldgregg7009 5 месяцев назад
That's the same with the dragon creatures. They have a second set of eyes that act as an early warning system and help them see at night
@Swimmaroo
@Swimmaroo Год назад
🐳🐋
@dr.2335
@dr.2335 Год назад
So where is Sylvester Stallone or am I in the wrong place?
@Bobulum
@Bobulum Год назад
out for 8 hours and Content ID already cut the music from the movie from this
@returnalnocturnal7729
@returnalnocturnal7729 Год назад
Lmao I love that Matt manifested white guilt from this movie and he can't explain why
@tankbyers9838
@tankbyers9838 Год назад
ya this movie is just too deep for my small mind to comprehend
@rverasart
@rverasart Год назад
pandora pilled
@noidontlikeu
@noidontlikeu Год назад
Sigourney Weaver is the best actress of all time for pulling off that performance as Kiri
@kobayashi1194
@kobayashi1194 Год назад
Fully agreed. Best character in the movie.
@brockcheinz
@brockcheinz Год назад
Love that Sully's kids seem to speak English in a mostly contemporary style, but there are consonants where you can hear a subtle navi inflection. Really noticed it with how Sigourney speaks her T's from the front of her teeth. Adds a good bit of immersion
@chucklefuck
@chucklefuck Год назад
She was the absolute worst part of the film. Kiri should have had a child VA like the rest
@BlueSkullFish
@BlueSkullFish Год назад
Yeah she was really convincingly fucking annoying. I thought they actually cast a teen actor cause she was so irritating!
@DanM8195
@DanM8195 Год назад
Finally saw it yesterday in imax 3D. Greatest cinematic experience I’ve ever had.
@DepressedHandsomeSpaceCop
@DepressedHandsomeSpaceCop Год назад
I see you.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Месяц назад
Coffee was the fuel of colonialism
@gz5405
@gz5405 Месяц назад
Coffee and Tobacco
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Месяц назад
@@gz5405 True dat
@refoliation
@refoliation 4 дня назад
Commodities you just can’t get enough of. Add in sugar and cotton and it’s over.
@loganemmert1392
@loganemmert1392 Год назад
Avatar 1 Mechs were more MechWarrior, not Armored Core.
@grahamcarpenter5135
@grahamcarpenter5135 Год назад
I always saw them more as the Matrix exosuits (from the Battle of Zion) but armored up more. Or better yet, a militarized version of Ripley's loader from Aliens, since that's another Cameron flick.
@nicolev2028
@nicolev2028 Год назад
IT'S ABOUT TIME! I just got out of seeing Avatar The Way of Water for the 123243 time and listened to this before going in. Truly an epic that makes you go how the fuck did Big Jim do that? several times over. I see you Big Jim at the Oscars
@IndirectCogs
@IndirectCogs 9 дней назад
I think my favorite sequence in the movie was when the humane came back and it was shown in no uncertain terms that they were bringing Hell with them. As the humans landed, they burned and destroyed the forests and wildlife in that area. We are meant to view this as the literal desecration of the Divine.
@FreeRadicalX
@FreeRadicalX Год назад
Jesus fucking christ FINE I will go and see it. This had better not be a fucking bit.
@MrDevival
@MrDevival Год назад
i promise you, it's a bit
@acetate909
@acetate909 Год назад
@@MrDevival Felix has legitimately been praising the first Avatar as an underrated classic. He has a whole theory about it being an anti colonialist masterpiece that's deeper than critics give it credit for. I'm sure there's some ironic jokes in this episode but their thesis on Avatar 2 isn't a bit. They're genuinely promoting the movie.
@VincentTroia
@VincentTroia Год назад
@@MrDevival it’s not a bit. dang you really can’t distinguish when people are being ironic and when they are not?
@MrDevival
@MrDevival Год назад
@@acetate909 either it's an Andy Kaufman-level bit, or I have to think that for my own sanity and well-being.
@Brokentwobutton
@Brokentwobutton Год назад
Checking in to see who's looking for Paikun
@Alex.R.L
@Alex.R.L 10 месяцев назад
Live Forever as You Are Now -Adult Swim infomercial skit (and RU-vid video) I'm reminded of the old greats. James C is a giant standing on the shoulders of giants. Based Lefty memes.
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
Am I trippin' or were the Navi not so subtlely "height-adjusted" in their scenes with Spider?
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Год назад
He's mostly shown with 8-15 yr old Na'vi, children are shorter than adults.
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
@@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Which same-said 15 year olds in "all-Na'vi" scenes seemed to me to be ( as would a human teen) not much shorter than the "full-grown" specimen (perhaps a head-height or so?) whereas the "mixed" Spider-inclusive ones ...eh! My friend I saw it with said "Definately MAYBE" but a careful "rescrutinization" may indeed be in order as I didn't think of it till "after the fact" anyway, so "swept-up" was I at the time in it ! What I DID think "during", however, was, there's NO WAY that the forest Na'vis should be able to ANYWHERE NEAR "keep up" (hold their breath as long, swim as fast etc.) with the sea-side kind regardless of how many "positive affirmations" they recited, their practice and "willingness" and what-not, because that would make a MOCKERY of all that "specialzed adaptation" and "physical evolution" that they (the naval Na'vi) obviously underwent to gain the "finny" fore-arms, stouter tails, webbed digits & etc. If it's all just a matter of "mind over matter" than why even "bother" (evolving at all I mean !). "Tree-Na'vi transplants" immersed in the constant sogginess of the "lagoon lifestyle" would more than likely be MUCH MORE wrinkled, chapped and sun-burnt than were our favorite "super-adaptive" fleeing family, wouldn't they? I contend that this "coulda/shoulda" been written in/for as "every bit (of verisimilitude) helps"! The overall "world" WAS thought out so cohesively and realized so convincingly that the "errors" seem "glaring" by comparison perhaps but I'm ABSOLUTELY "on-board" for "Part 3" (and maybe even a "rerevue" of "Parts 1 & 2" for that matter) !
@HesGotaGun505
@HesGotaGun505 Год назад
An eternity of CoD sounds like the lives of WingsofRedemption or OUMB2
@andr0oS
@andr0oS Год назад
The Ilu remind me of Pinnacarids from Subnautica: Below Zero.
@willelliot4001
@willelliot4001 Год назад
Third movie is gonna have the Colonel leading a tribe of Navi.
@parkerhuff9995
@parkerhuff9995 Год назад
If you put another persons memories in another body, is it truly the same person or a second new person?
@samzeng159
@samzeng159 Год назад
Being Na'vi hits different.
@fahimhuq2768
@fahimhuq2768 Год назад
The dudes are merging
@discountchocolate4577
@discountchocolate4577 Год назад
If you believe you're not the same person you were yesterday because going to sleep (which terminates a continuity of consciousness) is the same as death, then it's a second new person.
@linuxwizzerd5908
@linuxwizzerd5908 Месяц назад
Consciousness of Theseus
@zztopfan5201
@zztopfan5201 Год назад
I would like to see Chapo review Redacted 2007 the ultimate anti military movie.
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 10 месяцев назад
I like the thumbnail
@davidkelly5089
@davidkelly5089 Год назад
I also felt like glass onion was a bunch of things Rian Johnson wanted to tweet, glad they said it.
@GVLakerSam
@GVLakerSam Год назад
Even after all the episodes where they talk about Avatar, I still CANNOT tell if their liking it so much is a bit or not and if you ask me that was the real lesson of avatar all along.
@campfortson4387
@campfortson4387 Год назад
They are 100 percent sincere in their nerdy fondness for it
@tofubutcher7456
@tofubutcher7456 Год назад
This sold the shit out of it to me, buying a ticket tomorrow
@Bpinator
@Bpinator Год назад
What did you think?
@tofubutcher7456
@tofubutcher7456 Год назад
@@Bpinator I forgot it was so long, will have to wait until weekend
@Bpinator
@Bpinator Год назад
@@tofubutcher7456 Its long as fuck. But both my girlfriend and I absolutely loved it. We saw it in 3D and it was an insane experience
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler Год назад
I can’t go see Avatar 2 because it will make me depressed I don’t live in an anarchist commune paradise or have have a 10 ft tall blue qt alien gf 😢
@PowerYoutuberViewer
@PowerYoutuberViewer Год назад
Touch grass
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
@@PowerRU-vidrViewer A sad substitute for "attach your tail !"
@wyattrussell7496
@wyattrussell7496 Год назад
What would James Cameron do?
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
Everything?
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 Год назад
I think we might actually see "regular" navii. A marine's training in an avatar body is a potent combination. Will there be a navii with knowledge of human science and technology, or are they viewed in fundamental opposition? There are a few key things happening that parallel what amounts to an alternate history of Westward expansion. In particular unification of the indigenous American population. I have believed for a while that the preserve or "reservation" system, given to many separate tribes across the U.S. was a method of erasure. Instead of a single comingling of many tribal identities they are sparsely scattered and dying. In 100 years I think there may be nothing left but pictures. In trying to remain what they were in the old times they can't evolve or adapt. They are crumbling Polaroids. Yet that is the intent of the system, of "cultural preservation" to keep them as they were until they die. The world tree mega mind seems to have a capacity to infuse all the navii with detailed knowledge and understanding. So I think that is how they will revise the history to give a collective Native American culture Western knowledge/tech, but from an outside perspective so they aren't poisoned by that thinking. In the end if the navii survive in a way that isn't slow extermination then they will change and adapt. The way of water. The way of change. Lastly, Will has it close to right for me. However it's not enough to be willing to die, you have to expect to die and to be completely owned. I remember a teacher talking about being willing to kill but also willing to die if joining the military. It's like killing? Sure whatever check. Dying? Heroically like a cool martyr? Mmm asterisk. However I'm sure Vietcong that saw their homes burn for days, and Taliban that saw hills and mountains that had stood for a million years imploded, knew they would die. Not maybe, but 100%, and with no book or movie to remember their name. It's s completely different I think, to go into something knowing you will die. The one other thing I'd like to see from a movie about war, is that all war, real war that can only be waged by civilisation with specialization, are won by rice. Any movie about war shows the fighting of soldiers. Yet every soldier must be fed, their machine must be fueled and weapons repaired. The more advanced the army the more complex the logistical needs and the more intensive the base most unit to make war. The war should be lost offscreen because they literally just don't have the fuel to send anymore armadas to Pandora*. I enjoyed the first movie but assumed they were bullshitting because everyone else seemed to think it was goofy. Glad Felix converted them.
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 Год назад
@@McNutEVD thanks babe.
@richardsawicki8521
@richardsawicki8521 Год назад
They really "missed a trick" by overlooking the opportunity of giving Sully his own personal theme song (for us all to identify with) which of course would be a slightly modified version of the old "Village People's" homage to cultural appropriation, 🎵 "IN THE NA-VI" ! 🎶 ( you can make it if you're BLUE...can't believe it but it's TRUE...this can happen to YOU ! ... etc.)
@screenPhiles
@screenPhiles Год назад
It's easy to build and expand on the first Avatar since it was so simplistic, thematically speaking.
@luc_xott
@luc_xott Год назад
why don't the humans just drop those forest clearing incinerators on every na'vi settlement?
@VincentTroia
@VincentTroia Год назад
haha funny thought. probably because they're trying to colonize pandora and not burn it all up. I assume navi are everywhere, and live on all the good parts, so doing that might be too detrimental to the environment. i'm sure the humans will burn it all up later though, like they did with earth.
@importantoldnews5414
@importantoldnews5414 Год назад
That was their spaceship. Spaceships are expensive enough! Can't build a bunch more just to clear forests.
@GreenEarth20
@GreenEarth20 Год назад
Probably takes an insane amount of fuel to do that.
@discountchocolate4577
@discountchocolate4577 Год назад
They need the ecosystem intact enough to extract non-mineral resources from Pandora.
@Black_pearl_adrift
@Black_pearl_adrift Год назад
Bc they're expensive idk
@kaiserschnitzel89
@kaiserschnitzel89 Год назад
LOWTAX FINALLY FIXED SEARCH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALMAO
@blackdog9698919
@blackdog9698919 Год назад
Lowtax killed himself so he can live on Pandora.
@SpicyTake
@SpicyTake Год назад
I had mixed feelings about 1. It was still good though. Guess I'll see 2!
@n3n3b3n3
@n3n3b3n3 Год назад
im might be bias but the second one is so much better than the first and i love the first one
@SpicyTake
@SpicyTake Год назад
@@n3n3b3n3 I am super skeptical of bringing back the bad guy and Weaver's character...and retconning the boy. It just wreaks of making it up as they go, which ruined Star Wars for me. I will probably like it while wishing it was better.
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin
@Flamewarden_Honoushugoshin Год назад
Another banger.
@feydrautha012
@feydrautha012 Год назад
What if there was a group of sh*tlib Tulkun whales, called the "Pod Johns"? I'll see myself out.
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 Год назад
It's big in thumbnail
@frankzeppelin
@frankzeppelin Год назад
Wow, this episode is getting some pretty strong reactions in the comments. I'm fine either way. I think I'm one of seven people left that never watched the original Avatar. Nothing against it, just too much hype for anything kills my boner. Well, I guess it's gonna be another decade before I can give it a try.
@luispelozo
@luispelozo Год назад
I'm just going to download this movie into my brain
@Oceanmachine27
@Oceanmachine27 Год назад
So glad to hear Lowtax is in this movie. I hope he can use a portion of the proceeds to fix his spine
@diegowushu
@diegowushu Год назад
I never watched OG Avatar because I am afraid of the "post-Avatar depression". I really don't need another depression to pile up on the three or four I already have.
@n3n3b3n3
@n3n3b3n3 Год назад
the first one made me depressed because i wanted more of the world and the second left me filled with joy and excitement and the will to live to see the rest of the movies
@derickbowne8633
@derickbowne8633 Год назад
I genuinely think the post film depression for most people stemmed from a deep unconscious awakening to the fact that they are miserable and sleep walk through life to cope under capitalism and profit motive; but they don't have the ability to put it into words since they were never taught otherwise. The Navi tap into our innate human sensibilities of communion and the relationship with nature we once had, they have real freedom and love compared to our commodified pre packaged existence built for us before birth. Essentially they realize they want what capitalism can not only can never give them, but is blatantly trying to destroy. Just my interpretation of the phenomenon. Many people like to undervalue the effects art can have on people, but good art can bypass preconceived notions and pretensions one has to tap directly into the subconscious
@supermossboy1226
@supermossboy1226 Год назад
The only thing I disagree with Matt on here is that Clement is indeed returning in the sequal, and with a mechanical arm no less, but not as Ahab, he's coming back as Paul Watson and will be leading the Sea Shepherd/Greenpeace human faction.
@anonymousstormchaser
@anonymousstormchaser Год назад
Clement isn't the Aussie whaler guy, he's the marine biologist
@supermossboy1226
@supermossboy1226 Год назад
@@anonymousstormchaser That's correct, I'm failing to see your point in bringing that up however?
@caiuscosades362
@caiuscosades362 Год назад
@@supermossboy1226 The marine biologist didn't lose his arm, and matt said the whaler would come back as ahab.
@supermossboy1226
@supermossboy1226 Год назад
@@caiuscosades362 You're incorrect.
@caiuscosades362
@caiuscosades362 Год назад
@@supermossboy1226 So the marine biologist who didn't lose his arm is coming back with a robot arm in the next movie, got it. regardless, you're way off about that do nothing soyboy marine biologist, you saw the extent that his type struggles in the face of genocide, just make some snide comments and talk about his alcoholism. How do you extrapolate that to greenpeace hero of the whales? Do you relate to the biologist? is it wishful thinking?
@crungus__
@crungus__ Год назад
Glass Onion was reference hell
@Crano_Brakebart
@Crano_Brakebart Год назад
Abna wa abna Sons, nephews, and daughters?
@covvardice8296
@covvardice8296 Год назад
Rian Johnston doesn’t deserve the heat he’s getting😂
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
Oh yes he does.. 🤓
@VildhjartaFanGurl
@VildhjartaFanGurl Год назад
I'm a discreet individual
@Mofi357
@Mofi357 Год назад
1xbet!!
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