Hi there! Here is my question: I'm considering to buy a Stargazer frame set, but there is one thing which i'm not sure about. Here it is : I already have wheels, both Stans Arch 27,5: the front is 15x100 and the rear is 12x142. Stargazer specks are as following : front (fork ) 110x15mm thru axle (thru axle included) and rear 148x12mm Boost. Do you thing that my wheels are compatible with the frame set specs? Thanks for any kind of suggestion.
@@kan708 I can fit a Vittoria Bomboloni 3” tire (true to size) in a WTB Scraper 45mm rim, in the front. In the back I can fit the same Bomboloni but on a gravel style 22m internal rim. Tight though, barely any room left. Hope that helps
This a really good review & has me tempted to save up for one. Do you think you can at some point review the Black Mountain Cycle La Cabra, which is in the same class as this & the ULTD/LTD.
Great review. It’s great to see all these options for quality bikes in the market now. They’ve come along way from my fully ridged Diamond Back that I magivered a rear rack to do my first bike packing trip 25 years ago! Lol
I'm not a drop bar guy but dang this bike checks almost everything off for what you could want in a bike packing bike. The only down side would be no sliding dropouts but that's a very minor issue.
Thanks! That looks like a nice bike. Weight? The Cutthroat didn't fit me at all in any size and that's the kind of bike I'm interested in, but not a 28 pounder...
I much prefer the more 'upright' geometry of the LaCabra to the Tumbleweed. Unfortunately the max single chainring of the LaCabra is only 34T. For me that might be a showstopper, since the Tumbleweed allows 38T.
missed this, sorry. I'm 5' 9.5" and yes i did, but after talking to Daniel, we decided on the Extra Medium. I have pretty long arms, this fit seemed perfect.
Very similar. Major differences: Fargo is suspension corrected, comes with a carbon fork, has adjustable dropouts and has a lower bb. The build kit for the Fargo comes with cheaper components, so it's overall a more affordable build.
Great review, i was just wondering, would it be possible to put a 27.5 x 2.4 wheelset on a MEDIUM frame? Since a 29er wheel will definitely too huge for my height (5'5"). Thanks
I mean you could, but the Corner Bar was really designed to give a hardtail/flat bar bike, a drop bar feel. It's a convenient way to transition the bike without swapping over to all drop bar components and spending an arm and a leg. That's not to say you can't build this bike up with them, but If it was me, I would build it up with the Ritchey Venture Max XL bar.
I'll take a 100mm suspension corrected frame, 2x gearing compatible, Boost spacing, steel, stock fork with triple pack bosses (bonus if it is like one of the Salsa's forks with two sets of 3 pack bosses), thru axles, 73mm BB, more upright position. 30.9 or 31.6mm seat post, dropper post compatble, external cable routing, 700x50 or up to 29x2.3 even. A 85% version of a Salsa Fargo. Frame only option Does such a frame exist?
Hi there! Great review! Here is my question: I'm considering to buy a Stargazer frame set, but there is one thing which i'm not sure about. Here it is : I already have wheels, both Stans Arch 27,5: the front is 15x100 and the rear is 12x142.The Stargazer specks are: front (fork ) 110x15mm thru axle (thru axle included) and rear 148x12mm Boost. Do you thing that my wheels are compatible with the frame set specs? Thanks for any kind of suggestion.
Not compatible. You'll need boost hubs. Also seems like this is designed for full size 29" tires or 27.5 + your arch rims are 26mm I.W. which is a little narrow for a 3" 27.5 tire. if you run 27.5x 2.1/2.2 you'll change bottom bracket height and trail a fair amount from the design intent. It'd still pedal but handling characteristics would be different from reviewers description. You probably want set of boost hubs with either 584x35ish mm rims for 27.5+ or boost hubs with 622 x 25-30mm rims for 29x2-2.5
Salsa is just a far bigger company so they can have lower prices on stuff like raw materials, production costs or even set lower margins compared to a small specialty outfit like Tumbleweed.
@@pgreenx Yeah, Siopao.sauce is spot on. As far as materials, Tumbleweed has mentioned that they use a different tubing from everyone else, but they have not shared what it is. The quad butting is also interesting, something I have not used before this bike. Re Components: They are a bit nicer on the Stargazer, better component spec across the board, bigger gear range with the 12 speed via Ratio Tech (which I assume Daniel hand installed himself), it also comes with a dropper post and finally has some pretty awesome wheels. The one thing the Fargo has going for it is the Carbon fork, which will lighten and reduce vibrations a bit, but it will create a more stiff front end.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom it's only my observation because I happen to bike with guys with their ritchey and surly gravel bikes but they cannot seem to keep up with me, using my budget hardtail on unpacked and fire roads. I just think that they are just being cautious to avoid damage on their bikes 😀
Haha, we’ll just to be clear, I knew what gussets was, just not internal gussets and how it was done. I found that interesting but the BMX forums cleared things up for me.
Why don't you like boost? Just a simple comparison between the Stargazer and Sutra ULTD, the Stargazer has a slightly more "relaxed" geo, but because of the boost spacing, it gives the ride more life. It's stable and confident in corners and at high speeds, it snappier on the climbs and it allows for more tire clearance. I guess if you're not looking to ride much trail or dirt, it's not as important, but I think boost is awesome. Anyways, thanks for the comment and for watching!
@11:46 background , go and fire the camera man , immediately. "It shines on the decent" .... all my bike´s did that and me even more i shine bright like a diamond when it comes to decents