Tuned 2020 Civic Si vs. Ford Focus ST

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@mathewm6173 4 года назад

You guys need to race when you swap cars to get a better idea of which car is faster. Too many variables with the driver in a manual car so swapping drivers really gives us a good comparison.

@brandonwright6578 4 года назад

Mathew M run what you brung period

@nicelikerice12311 4 года назад

Grant a pretty cool dude. Love your vids man, this has to be the friendliest car enthusiast channel on RU-vid

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Thanks, im glad you enjoy them

@thomasoleson2651 4 года назад

I enjoyed this video! I drive an 18 ST

@Jan3Sobieski5 2 года назад

Man, I appreciate your honesty. I've seen a bunch of other youtubers crap on the focus st when in fact it's a nice car. Especially for what you get in the same price range as a civic si

@xelawash 4 года назад

Reconnecting with an old buddy and putting him in your video...that’s classy👍👊

@jenplante78 4 года назад

Good job, Cam! I really enjoyed the positive tone to this video.

@ZFA1738 4 года назад

Used to own a 19 Si coupe. Always liked the Focus ST. It’s quick, practical, tunable, decent looking, and cheap. Almost bought a 17 with 9000 miles for 18k but I ended up getting a 2020 WRX. Nice video man.

@19Herofade92 4 года назад

So all in all you chose the heaviest and slowest out of the three? haha. I love them all!

@ZFA1738 4 года назад

ReallyCoolRC Heaviest, yes, slowest, no. In stock form, out of the three, the WRX is the fastest in both 0-60 and the 1/4 mile.

@subvet3668 4 года назад

It really is too bad Ford doesn't sell the Focus ST anymore here in the States. Nice to see a slight tune can keep the Si up with it.

@Tool0GT92 4 года назад

I like the ST but I'm scared to buy a used one and they don't have the tech I want like the Si.

@ramsey6839 4 года назад

@Throwing rocks It's funny because I wasn't gonna get one but once I found out they would not be selling them in the states I went to the dealership that same week. Im glad I did because they had 4 ST's deals going i guess more people had the same idea lol. But the SI are really nice too especially the type R.

@mitchellhall951 4 года назад

Throwing rocks I got an 17’ st3 with only 13k on it

@ososkic8673 4 года назад

Is the Ford automatic gear or manual here in the video?

@ramsey6839 4 года назад

@@ososkic8673 Its a manual Focus ST only comes in manual the way it should be.

@motorminds4803 4 года назад

Also loved how yall changed cars gave it and even playing field. very impressed overall you seem chill.

@RSKev 4 года назад

I have a 18 ST and I love the 10th gen si’s. The lower speed rolls is the advantage for the ST due to the torque, but that’s why you were winning the higher rolls!! Nice vid

@dham99 4 года назад

Awesome video. Whoever owned that TS ST before took great care of it! I have a FBO 2016 FoST with a 93/E30 tune... if you think a stock 2013 is fast, drive one thats properly tuned and upgraded! Not a rocket but more than enough to have fun! You can eliminate some of that 'loose' feeling in the shifter by upgrading the shift cable bushings for like $30...and shortening the shift (plate/arm/etc) it makes a big difference too! y'all are very humble, I wish more people were like that! Cant wait to see what y'all do to you cars. Get some races in as you both upgrade... cheers from South Texas!

@arenamation9459 4 года назад

Not a civic owner but man your channel is underrated bro. Keep it up. Saab 9-3 2.8t owner right here 🙌

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Thanks man! That means a lot. Btw, i love those Saabs. Very cool cars

@blurryrecords 3 года назад

This is awesome. I got a 2013 st back in November and my brother just picked up a 2018 si! What a coincidence!

@TD-ml7ms 4 года назад

Was going with the new SI but put a deposit on the new type r instead. Keep the videos coming. This is really good stuff.

@eddiediaz3480 4 года назад

Smart move. Well worth it.

@alexivan8615 4 года назад

Best vid yet! Keep it up 👍

@tdidgin 2 года назад

racing like gentleman. love it dude!

@2tonedangert891 4 года назад

Please race a 2020 Elantra GT N Line...I love to race you but with this Coronavirus it would be impossible for us to cross the boarder. Enjoy the channel, great content Cameron

@jasonwills6694 4 года назад

Loved the foxbody shot at the end. Great video!

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Thanks man!

@nighthawk0077 3 года назад

2.2 vs. 1.5? Do these cars have torque steer?

@motorminds4803 4 года назад

Subbed can't wait to see you get a project car! get something with major potential like that cheap type s or miata

@BaaSicStuff 2 года назад

Respect bro, Im here cause last night I spanked an SiCivic, I also think he hit top speed cause the car just stopped suddenly, I hit 145 and was like WOW! could have easily kept going. the ST is FAST, Ive had quite a few sport cars really like it.

@domojim 4 года назад

Your full blown Stage 1 was hitting ~25 PSI right? Or were you still getting low boost?

@Camhill182 4 года назад

yes, it hits about 25 psi. 24 and some change

@keeganm2500 3 года назад

Bro, my 2020 si has to be faster than that. What psi are you running because my tune is running 24psi

@sdalexander8505 4 года назад

Everybody chirps the tires on that 1st to 2nd shift when they start driving the Si. It’s a tall shift and that Rev hang is unreal. It pulls hard above 4k RPM at 50+ mph or highway speeds. It was keeping up with the ST on the 50 roll which is astounding for what it is.

@michaelleczel7933 4 года назад

SDAlexander that’s why you try to eliminate some By upgrading tires and going with a 245/40r18 over the stock 235/40r18 helps a lot minimizing that chirp and locks the car to the pavement

@traxxasrcfun Год назад

Why is that astounding? They are both turbo 4 bangers? It’s as even as it gets lol (btw I love both)

@w0lf9009 10 месяцев назад

@@traxxasrcfunjust because they are 4 bangers doesn't mean they are the same. St has a 2.0 pushing 252hp stock while the civic si is 1.5 and only has 202 hp

@traxxasrcfun 10 месяцев назад

@@w0lf9009 and .5 liters can be made up by like 2 psi. When vehicles are boosted there are so many more variables so displacement becomes less important. If they were both NA it’d be astounding

@jorgedejesus1146 4 года назад

I think if the knock sensor go up you need tune your car. You live in Florida?

@matthernandez210 4 года назад

Sweet video man!! Also you live close to me. I’m out here in Santa Rosa about. About 2 hours

@tbe_xavier 4 года назад

You should get a front/down pipe. Good performance! with the exhaust and the tune you have

@cre8tivegarage157 4 года назад

Y’all need to race fam , great video we loved it

@thebrosytjd8718 4 года назад

Awesome video bro

@denverpurgepaintball7147 2 года назад

ive been debating on a 17 civic si or a focus st and i think this video just made up my mind for sure...st it is and thats coming from a die hard honda fan i am just not feeling the 1.5t it cost way to much to mod to perform close to the st...love the video!!!

@JonHop1 3 года назад

wait what the heck is the redline on that 19th gen? You were shifting at like 6200?

@spardadmon5236 4 года назад

Lmao!! Love this guy's reaction when he gets into the Focus.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

😎

@imnickcampos 4 года назад

Why didn't you race him on the map 3 tune, in sport mode?

@saint6064 4 года назад

Loved the vibes in this video, you two are such laid back guys it’s dope lol. Here because I’m looking into buying an ST for my first stick shift. You think it’s a good beginners?

@Lan60570 4 года назад

You’ll love it

@SemiproMotorsports 4 года назад

I will say your editing has really improved since the start of the SI series keep it up man 👍

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Thanks man

@samt8017 4 года назад

You fell in love with a car that is 6 years older then your 2020 SI. Stock SI is 205hp and 197tq.stock ST is 252hp and 270tq. The SI is really light compared to the ST, but you would have to spend some serious coin just to match the ST power but the handling is where the ST really shines.

@pincheloko1086 4 года назад

Sam t hahaha not really!! Fbo and delete boost lag the St wouldn’t even have a chance with the ST...

@bigdadjorel7151 4 года назад

K&N drop in replacement air filter adds 5hp and 5ft/lbs torque dyno proven! Little known secret. Next upgrades AFE intercooler and pipes! Great video keep um coming thanks Cam!

@Camhill182 4 года назад

thanks big dad

@jong4939 4 года назад

good vid. I really enjoy my '17 ST.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

thanks Jon

@Freeeagleusa 4 года назад

This was awesome 👍

@landonhall55 4 года назад

Cobalt vs focus I never raced one while I was stock I wanna see it

@Jonny05modesto 4 года назад

I have a 2013 st there is so many mods its a fun car to build!!

@dongulio5539 4 года назад

What is the fastest stock si you’ve driven? I’m thinking about gettin an si for a first car, so I’d like an opinion :D thanks bro, your vids are awesome

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Hey thanks man. The 10th is the fastest for sure. Stock for stock, this will beat all other si generations

@dongulio5539 4 года назад

Cameron Hill thanks man, means a lot :D you’re gonna be big man, let no one nor yt’s dumbshit keep you down💪🏽

@nupash6135 4 года назад

Well done dude, and again I guess Si should have 2.0 Engines)...hope Honda is gonna give next gens with 2.0 as option.

@asifalimirza 4 года назад

Probably not going to happen because a 2.0 would not be in line with keeping this car economical and efficient. Also the price of the car would go up, putting it in a price range out of reach for some. Remember, the ST was in the $30k range new

@arturomendoza3957 4 года назад

Yeah 2.0 vtec....👍👍👍👨

@typeamanagement5433 4 года назад

Good vid bro...!!!

@tomb6593 4 года назад

Are you really getting rid of the civic??

@brettcarrillo7249 2 года назад

Good runs. I would love to see how my RSX does against your civic. Im usually a close race with the Focus ST's.

@Channel21Jaymz 4 года назад

Are u sure u got your tune straight? I know u were having probs with it. Maybe u should take to a dyno? With tsp u should be gapping the st.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

It said it was up around 24.5 psi in the video

@xelawash 4 года назад

Cool video!!!

@sergnextdoor5213 4 года назад

nice runs, that focus is slightly faster. maybe intercooler and downpipe can get you a dub.

@tashawegmueller1866 4 года назад

I can't wait to add in more fuel with my little ST and see what happens.. I'm currently maxxed out

@bryanholley5262 2 года назад

Something just doesn't sound right about that. I have a 2014 focus titanium. It has 262 hp. Why does his st not have more power than that. I was thinking that the st had 300 hp. And the rs had 400 hp.

@gettingfitat5015 3 года назад

So can you change from map 1 to map 2 (etc...) without stopping the car? Might be a stupid question, but IDGAF... ;-)

@cardiddy96 4 года назад

New video, let's go!

@coryleeboxing3047 3 года назад

Dope video

@franpancho1000 4 года назад

From a 30 roll the ST really shines especially if you start in second gear.

@h-disconnected6612 Год назад

That first gear is shooooort

@MichaelDouglas-24 4 года назад

Good races!

@MrMakeitnasty 4 года назад

Just scene a few of your videos want a 10th gen so bad now hopefully I can get me one soon

@jose13801380 4 года назад

Are you in Tulare ?

@demoriaeprice6764 3 года назад

When he like “yeah it just makes “swwshhh swshhh!!” Sound better, I was like.. F E L T 🤝

@josez7433 4 года назад

Yo!! You’re close to me man! I live in San Francisco and I have the same car lmao

@george503911 4 года назад

Hey Cameron, so what did you think of the Focus St?

@Camhill182 4 года назад

I think it is awesome! the seating position is very, very different from the si, so I think I would need more time with an ST to really give a full detailed review of one. maybe ill see if Grant wants to switch cars for a weekend sometime soon

@george503911 4 года назад

@@Camhill182 Sounds good, I bought mine new in 2015. Have almost 91k now. At 20k I had a Cobb cold air intake, Cobb CatBack Exhaust, Cobb Intercooler and Cobb Rear motor mount installed from Snail Performance with a E30 tune From them. 70k miles later still going strong. Your not too far from me since I am in Sacramento.

@george503911 4 года назад

@@Camhill182 Hey Cameron you still looking for a 2020 Type R at factory sticker price?

@george503911 4 года назад

I might be able to help.

@10thFTW 4 года назад

I had both. The ST is just more powerful hands down. Way more tq plus over 300lbs disadvantage. If you get an ST get the recaros. It's well equipped. You can still find some brand new at dealerships. The Si was great and we'll refined. But even with Hondata, it didn't feel close to the turbo on the ST. The ST gives you the old fashion turbo thrust I was looking for that I didn't get in the Si.

@austen3896 4 года назад

Never realized how under powered these SI are. Do you mind doing a 0-60 with ktuner 21 psi then doing a tsp stage 1 map 3 0-60.

@notsoanonymous2458 4 года назад

I agree. I've got a 2018 Si and think they really needed another 25-30 hp/torque out of the factory. On the bright side the gas mileage is incredible.

@marcusmcneal7453 4 года назад

They could use a bit more power, but you have to remember the Civics are pretty light cars. My non-SI is about 2750 lbs right now. That’s around the same as a BRZ/FRS/T86 while being a much large car. Honda also knows a lot of people are gonna tune their cars and get that extra HP anyways.

@Peylix 4 года назад

@@notsoanonymous2458 The SI is underpowered on purpose. Easy way to upsell for a CTR.

@notsoanonymous2458 4 года назад

@@Peylix The type R is under powered, too so that doesn't solve anything. The type R loses in the quarter to a lot of other cars in its class or price point.

@Peylix 4 года назад

@@notsoanonymous2458 It doesn't have to be the fastest in it's class to be considered good or more powerful. The CTR comes with 300hp from factory. That's the standard for hot hatches right now. Unlike VW. Look at the GTI. 220hp. The Golf R comes with 300hp finally, but it wasn't long ago that even the Golf R was under 300hp from factory. But it's still true. The SI is held back on purpose. Same reason the GTI is held back vs the R, the ST was held back vs the RS. I personally cannot stand the CTR. I don't like it's design, and it's power delivery leaves much to be desired.

@michaelgonzalez1210 4 года назад

My buddy went to basic training with you. Stumbled across your video, and hes like damn that dude looks really familiar. Where you located I wanna race.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

thats pretty cool, man. yea, mario told me on Facebook! DM me on instagram @camhill182

@isabelle.c011 4 года назад

You got a new sub but remember never be nice to a focus st it likes i needs to be abused or it’ll abuse you lol

@ramsey6839 4 года назад

I have an ST and I love it but i also really like the Si. I just wonder how that ST would run with a upgraded intercooler to prevent heatsoak because after all those pulls that charge temp must be at 170 minimum.

@michaelu7900 4 года назад

I'm running a stage 3 st , new intercooler helps alot

@austinedison3533 4 года назад

stock intercoolers on ST's are junk my temps got up to 180 before intercooler went on

@tomwhitmore1325 4 года назад

Are those Pepboy exhaust tips on that Civic?

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Tom Whitmore what

@NewOrleansSpeed 4 года назад

If you are thinking about STs as a project check out a speed3. 1st gens are super sleepers and can be had for a decent price.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

I think they’re the fugliest things ive ever seen

@andresalvarado5676 4 года назад

Cameron Hill speed 3s are real good looking when you take out the smile grill and put a big front mount in it few bolt ones and you’ll be pulling 350 wheel

@NewOrleansSpeed 4 года назад

Cameron Hill feel the same way about the st lol

@jeremycote6473 4 года назад

I love Focus St as well would be sick to see this as your project car. Love watching your videos keep it up !

@orangefirepearlfb6 4 года назад

Cool video

@19gatsu84 4 года назад

how many hp does the civic have?

@Camhill182 4 года назад

about 230whp right now with my tune

@Blackguysensai Год назад

At the end of the day, both are fun daily drivers with over 25mpg. I'm averaging 26.5mpg city/highway combined in my ST

@mikel7732 4 года назад

You shoulda race each other at the end when your driving his car ;)

@markwgundert4251 4 года назад

Don't give up on the CivicX yet, you haven't even reached the power limit yet on that bottom end. Get a performance clutch, then try an aftermarket turbo..

@zaytoony 4 года назад

cant wait for the race against the 8th gen Si

@itsvictorrivera 4 года назад

You should try a full bolt on and tune fiesta st :)

@trevorboyd3175 Год назад

I got the AWE track exhaust on my b8.5 s4 and it sounds amazing!

@mikel7732 4 года назад

It would be awesome if you did the races on the track, drag racing is fun, but I feel the Si is designed more for track racing.

@goosemack3587 Год назад

the St is made more for the track too, not drags at all. it has brake vectoring, It would be interesting to see them on a track for sure!

@t.shaneholock693 Год назад

Cool, but you need to do this again if you can and let the ST cool down, the heat soak from the stock intercooler is crazy and costs almost 20hp

@keepnitlow1527 3 года назад

Lmfao, you didn't seem too pleased when he chirped 2nd in your Si.

@VictorRodriguez-yl5jp 4 года назад

ended up in Northern California? What’s your profession? if you don’t mind me asking. Loving the content as usual bro!

@Camhill182 4 года назад

thanks man. I'm active duty Air Force

@sleepyfocus9180 4 года назад

Hurts my feelings when people don't atleast go fbo with the ST 😭😭

@corypeaslee3865 4 года назад

You from Maine? Or did you just go to college here?

@Camhill182 4 года назад

I grew up in Caribou. went to Husson in bangor from 14-15, then lived in Portland until 2017

@corypeaslee3865 4 года назад

Cameron Hill oh nice I am from Augusta. Nice civic I have a 06 si.

@malakius 4 года назад

Without watching the video, I knew the ST would win. 230hp stock Focus ST vs 220hp tuned Civic SI.

@Justin-wf5nr 4 года назад

St has 252 hp

@sipumbs5746 4 года назад

You’re forgetting about power-to-weight ratio buddy. I smack these STs all day. White boy needs driver mod

@YoYo-vc1os 4 года назад

those ford st are hard to find the older ones

@Metalwhore89 4 года назад

I love my ST. Handles great for stock, is cheap to make decently quick, and always surprises people. It’s also way sexier than a civic

@TheeDevilWearsPrada 4 года назад

Interesting how opinions work. I think the design of the ST is super ugly.

@johnnygkc 2 года назад

@@TheeDevilWearsPrada I agree, I really liked it on paper and it was between the ST, the SI and the WRX. I really didn't like it up close it looks like a mom car

@roby4h3ll83 4 года назад

I am not so sure how much that TSP stage 1 is helping you vs the stock stage 1 19/23... I figured that 45ish more horse from the TSP stage 1 should be able to over come him easily. I'm a bit confused to why you didn't overtake him with the paid for tune??

@Camhill182 4 года назад

I was driving horribly. I got cocky and thought that it would be cool to give him a slight jump and try to catch him. didnt work

@roby4h3ll83 4 года назад

@@Camhill182Lol all good, it was fun so thats all that really matters 👍😎

@alexisesparza8329 4 года назад

Hey bro can you ask him what gear he was in on the 30 rolls? I feel like he was in 3rd. Can you ask please 🙂

@Camhill182 4 года назад

He was in third. You can watch his video of the race from his point of view on his channel. Its called “Its Grant”

@alexisesparza8329 4 года назад

@@Camhill182 okay bro thanks a lot

@rydergreenmusic 4 года назад

What part of NorCal you in man? I grew up in Roseville!

@Camhill182 4 года назад

hey! im in Roseville

@rydergreenmusic 4 года назад

Cameron Hill whaaatttt??? No way! You got an IG I can hit you on?

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Ryder Green yea for sure man, @camhill182

@crab9980 4 года назад

you can brake boost on a tsp btw

@OzM26 4 года назад

Your shifting had a lot to do with it, good races tho👌

@victornunez2736 4 года назад

What you doing in Vacaville 😂😂

@sean3473 4 года назад

I know the Si isn't really that fast, but i love it as my daily driver (coupe). Super fun for a commuter, especially with the fact it is my first brand new car, and with my lame RGB interior mods. One day, with the funds... I'll get my hands on a type-R and mod the shit out of it.

@tyman7156 4 года назад

I like the civic still. Focus is nice though

@thegoaty5799 3 года назад

Wierdly, U remind me of the Paul Walker . Dope vids man

@reyvr6 4 года назад

Those engine the turbo are max out from factory and those eco boost once you tune the engine are time bomb.

@alexl.102 4 года назад

You gotta try racing a stage one 1.5 now now with the cvt

@michaelleczel7933 4 года назад

Where about in Cali do you live? I’m down to run my 2020 SI vs yours. Could be some good content for your channel.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Im in the sacramento area

@michaelleczel7933 4 года назад

Cameron Hill oh damn I’m way down in San Diego. But definitely wanted to run the two cars.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

One day, man

@helamanflores 4 года назад

Tsp stage 1 doesn't run 100% with 91 octane. I had it and it doesn't sit well with California gas, so getting a custom tune on 91.

@Camhill182 4 года назад

Hm, well maybe thats what i will do

@helamanflores 4 года назад

@@Camhill182 or according to drob add gallon of ethanol to keep the knock control down. I got a sport so my knock is way more sensitive on my ecu than a SI ecu.