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TURBO LS COMBOS-WHAT WORKS (TRICK vs TRIED & TRUE) 

Richard Holdener
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FULL RESULTS!! LOW-BUCK, JUNKYARD TURBO LS, do you try Trick or Tried & True? Lots go searching for that ultimate, killer combo, but the hot ticket is to keep it simple! All it takes to make big-boosted, turbo LS power is the right cam, springs and turbo boost! We show you what happens when you get it right, AND when you get it wrong. Two combos, MORE BOOST, plus NA results.

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@fixins
@fixins 4 года назад
I love this. No brand loyalty, no sponsors being stroked, just hard numbers.
@weallsobad7320
@weallsobad7320 4 года назад
But we all know he is an LS junkie! 😉😂🤣😃😉 Its great to see all the different engines but i gotta say bang fir the buck has to to the LS/Vortec platform! And giving us daily videos of late definetly shoes Richard gives us the most bang FOR our bucks!. Ive been waiting for this for years! What a great channel!
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics 4 года назад
richard, the fucking treehouse is my favorite
@silentbravo
@silentbravo 2 года назад
Criminally underrated channel. Needs to be at least 500k+ subs
@Brad-kq9oc
@Brad-kq9oc 4 года назад
Get your hands out of your pockets Richard, embrace your physical characteristics. Please don't become self conscious about yourself because us winding you up about speaking like an Italian 😉😂😂😂
@gsxrred1000
@gsxrred1000 4 года назад
Brad Jenkinson yeah Richard. That is you. The man that talks with his hands. You do a great job in everything you are doing. That’s what makes you you. Keep it up channel in awesome. Still waiting on turbo cam vid. I bet it will be your most popular video you do.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
the hands aren't going anywhere
@Brad-kq9oc
@Brad-kq9oc 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 Good to hear cobber, now can you get a Barra engine and see what horsepower it takes to break it.
@gsxrred1000
@gsxrred1000 4 года назад
Richard Holdener 👍
@SloppyMechanics
@SloppyMechanics 4 года назад
Moar, turbo
@joshuanewell7594
@joshuanewell7594 4 года назад
Sloppy stage 2 cam with that s475 and a tbss intake would be pretty cool also
@ktmr8
@ktmr8 4 года назад
The “KISS” principle! Keep It Simple Stupid! Definitely the best way to go!
@johnm4393
@johnm4393 4 года назад
Can you do some turbo tests with a stock alloy 5.7 LS preferably with twin china T3/T4's, Crow turbo cam and springs. Interested coz I've installed the Alloy LS and I'm in the fab stage of every thing else. Would be good for extra info to size stuff e.g. converter, injectors, etc.
@Screamingz1
@Screamingz1 4 года назад
Na “trick” combo. I love the use of the word trick lol. Reminds me of so many old school ppl I know. Hell I use it lol
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
its like a "built" bottom end
@fitzeesfabrications
@fitzeesfabrications 4 года назад
Great video. Love the 4.8 stuff a real poor man's combo. Other then that turbo. Lol. Your a great teacher and keep those videos coming
@colbybishop6169
@colbybishop6169 4 года назад
Yes, i know a the high compression had more power, but I went with 317s (because I had them and they were ported)(ss2 cam and s475) my thought was because it’s my daily and in northern Washington, Idaho, Montana e85 is hard to get I’m running 92 octane. So question given a fuel octane restriction would not the better flowing low compression but higher boost end up making more power in the end? Yes I agree the 706 heads would be more responsive (my pickup is a dog to 2500rpm)
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I'm not sure if octane is the limiting factor which combo works "best", the better question is do you have fun with your combo? I'm guessing hell yes!
@laborer4321
@laborer4321 4 года назад
What s475 do you have? If your having fun dont sweat it! But if you want to start maxing out setup, personally I would go back to the stock heads and sell the ported heads. On my turbo 4.8 silvy I run stock heads, jfr 212 cam, s475 t4 1.10 ar 83mm turbine wheel (7575 basically). I get away with 91 when I am in Colorado, house is at 10k elevation. I just gotta keep an eye on timing and run lower boost. Now from my testing with ls cams and turbo 4.8/5.3s, the bigger cams just bring the power in a bit slower unless your running a tiny turbine wheel. I usually try to run "smaller" cams in the turbo 4.8/5.3 trucks we do. I cant wait to see what Richard finds but I am guessing that's what happens
@brianfrost303
@brianfrost303 4 года назад
Very interesting. I would love to see a similar test done on a different engine platform, Or even a roots blower instead of a turbo. Mismatched parts is easily the most common cause of disappointing engine builds.
@woodgrain18
@woodgrain18 4 года назад
Very true It really grinds my gears when some body wants to do a cam swap and they say I want the nastiest sounding cam I can get or the bring me a cam big donkey dick cam for a 4.8 or 5.3 and I always tellem your not gonna like it and actually be slower until it gets past 6000rpm and then trying to tellem that they have to have a tourqe converter it kills me but I get paid and they get a car or truck that was 8 times out 10 faster stock and alot of the time a week or to later come back and say you where right it what's the cheapest way to make it work or they end up selling the car or truck that's how I got my 2002 single cab swb gmc 1500 and my 1999 z28 so at the same time you gotta love idiots lol
@rangeandi
@rangeandi Год назад
Solid video. Richard, what intake have you found to be best besides stock for the 4.8 ly2 lr4? If there is any. It’s like less is more!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Год назад
for what rpm?
@nickolaswhite4288
@nickolaswhite4288 4 года назад
Best edition yet! 4.8L don't BS me test, ironically shooting down all the stuff that bs's everyone! Numbers are numbers especially when the internet has its way with them, but this is proof and these are facts.
@knowbull5hit590
@knowbull5hit590 4 года назад
Could have sworn i was listening to Happel “get a cheap 4.8, do nothing to it, 78/75 or S475, make power” lmao
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
he's been there a few times-and its still right!
@sixx6sixx107
@sixx6sixx107 4 года назад
If you max out a 1k hp turbo, will adding an identical 1k hp turbo give more power or will the combo only stay 1k ? 🤷🏾‍♂️
@lukemorgan3368
@lukemorgan3368 4 года назад
You brought a ton of knowledge and information to the RU-vid community keep doing what you do best! 👍🏻
@jamespemberton3095
@jamespemberton3095 4 года назад
Keep them coming, I’d like to see a small charger comparison on 6.0/6.2 , Currently working on a lq9 with single 66mm on pump gas no intercooler for a rock bouncer. I don’t live at 6krpm and want my buggy ti lite down low
@bdugle1
@bdugle1 4 года назад
Another tremendous video full of great info! Best channel on RU-vid!
@dilsher12
@dilsher12 4 года назад
I want the karate chops back Richard, it's not the same
@MJTAUTOMOTIVE
@MJTAUTOMOTIVE 4 года назад
Congratulations on 20 k Subscribers Richard. Thanks for all the Great Videos. 👍👍👍
@TheProchargedmopar
@TheProchargedmopar 4 года назад
More $ and it's kinda "stupid". Welcome to living in a socialist state. 😝 Glad I'm in Texas!!!!!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I'm not sure how the two sentences go together
@blackman8795
@blackman8795 4 года назад
Can you do a video of something that we never get to see like a old school Mopar engine like a 440 and see how much boost or power you can make before it blows you know something we never see an old school Mopar and do you recommend getting your engine electronically balanced or you think that's not always necessary when you going over a thousand horsepower
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
factory balance is fine unless you change something
@jeredfowler7194
@jeredfowler7194 4 года назад
I too would like to see some mopar big block action. Mainly because I'm going to turbo a sbe 440 and see if itll last in the 600 hp mark for a while and do some track tests at around 12-14 psi
@thetruth5232
@thetruth5232 4 года назад
Cali is expensive? A 5.7 is $1100 annual tax and gas is $7/gal. in germany.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
dang Gina!!
@RoyBrown1794
@RoyBrown1794 4 года назад
Hey Richard I have two holset hx35’s Laying around do you think they’ll do fine on a twin 4.8? Also I have an HX 55 And Two Garrett GT 37’s they were all donated But my dad is most likely going to use the 55 on a 6.0! Just kind of want your overall opinion on those please and thank you
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
sorry-I don't have a lot of experience with the HX35s-I can look them up to see if a map is available
@RoyBrown1794
@RoyBrown1794 4 года назад
It would be so helpful if you could! me and my father can’t find too much on them or enough to know if twins will work for a 4.8
@RoyBrown1794
@RoyBrown1794 4 года назад
But like I said they were all donated to me so so I kind of look at it as free horse power! And would like to utilize them the best way possible
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 года назад
Personally I blame squirrels
@buiItnotbought
@buiItnotbought 4 года назад
Bring the hands back again! We all miss it!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
they aren't going anywhere
@davidcunningham00
@davidcunningham00 4 года назад
But but but that intake is shinny, and that cam was only $50 lol. I hope you can read the sarcasm in this.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
It's so Shinnnnny!
@robertharrison2116
@robertharrison2116 3 года назад
I don't know how to explain this to you other than what I'm getting ready to say I want to be able to switch tanks pump gas the good yes I want to be able to turn heater blows up from inside the cab I want to be able to alter my timing from inside the cat not looking for a race car or truck just want to have control of all of that while in my seat
@_the_Chad_
@_the_Chad_ Год назад
Excellent video! That "trick" one wasn't even close to peaking at 7k rpm ha
@robertharrison2116
@robertharrison2116 3 года назад
Cable actuation electronic programming actuation in my mind I can see its capabilities in about 10 seconds moving that direction
@lsxcutty8739
@lsxcutty8739 4 года назад
You should compare the sloppy stage 2 vs the stage 2 turbo cam on either turbo
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
that is coming up
@budgetbuiltmusclecars5861
@budgetbuiltmusclecars5861 3 года назад
Listen to someone on the internet? Your on the internet! Just kidding. Love your stuff!
@stlchucko
@stlchucko 4 года назад
If all things are the same except 706 vs 317 heads, I wonder how they compare with boost when the limiting factor is 91 oct. The 706 makes more power NA than the 317 because of the compression bump, but that means the 317 should be able to take more boost with 91 oct.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
That is a different test but would be cool if I had reliable knock detection
@stlchucko
@stlchucko 4 года назад
Richard Holdener It’s something I’m curious about because it represents what a lot of people are doing on the street that don’t have access to e85. If I had to guess, the power would be close, just the 706 making it with less boost. Really like your channel. You give hard numbers on using the affordable parts the Driveway Engineer uses.
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 4 года назад
25 Years ago (before the internet) An engineer by the name of Red Armstrong preached the same sermon to the Turbo Buick crowd...and I listened. I followed his recipe, and bought his upgrade parts. Great advice !!!
@ja5435
@ja5435 4 года назад
That’s pretty cool. I have a 86” and a 87” Grand National and a regular 86” Buick Regal that I swapped out the old run down 307 ci V8 Oldsmobile engine to a new 632ci BBC N/A that makes upwards of 920HP.
@Tariq_F._Raheem86
@Tariq_F._Raheem86 4 года назад
flyonbyya dude 25 years ago was 95. Hardy before the internet lol. I think you lost some time somewhere....
@jaydunbar7538
@jaydunbar7538 4 года назад
@@Tariq_F._Raheem86 in 95 the internet was in it's infancy, it existed but most didn't have access and it didn't have much on it of use.
@Tariq_F._Raheem86
@Tariq_F._Raheem86 4 года назад
Jay Dunbar I guess that may be true where you’re from. Idk
@flyonbyya
@flyonbyya 4 года назад
Tariq Raheem Why respond with some absolutist bullshit??? Of course the internet existed...I concede!
@sseibonnevilleman
@sseibonnevilleman 4 года назад
How about that 480 on the better motor? The higher compression and proper cam should help that big girl light off of my thinking is correct?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
the S480 is good for over 1000 hp-if you want that power level
@thomaslearned967
@thomaslearned967 4 года назад
Richard I am hooked on your videos now to my question I have seen your video on boost on a SBC with a roots blower. Have you ever done a test with the cx raceing SBC turbo kit blow through on a holley super sniper 4150 I am thinking of building this set up any advice woud be great
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I have not tested that sbc turbo kit-but it everything fits and the turbo is sized for the power level. Should work fine as a blow through
@thomaslearned967
@thomaslearned967 4 года назад
have you ever tested any of the sniper efi stuff?
@jamesduffus4455
@jamesduffus4455 4 года назад
i have ben reading your articles for years now your on youtube to those of you who dont know this guy you should listen this guy is the real deal i was just reading an article in hot rod you did about bbc ovel vs square port heads great to see you here
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
thnx-lots of stuff to post
@RoyBrown1794
@RoyBrown1794 4 года назад
For the people who are thumbs downing 👎🏾 these videos just don’t watch it because you’re a hater!!
@deanstevenson6527
@deanstevenson6527 4 года назад
Roy Brown : Ive gone through a lot of Richards videos and it must be some antipodean neanderthal conspiracy...peeps who dont know that in the northern hemisphere, thumbs always go up. Up is North. As for the direction of waterflow in a bathroom, Id ask John Woodworth. But no squirell drowning.
@bikerbrego
@bikerbrego 4 года назад
I like the video’s Richard on the 4.8 , 5.3’s. I’m still waiting on the LQ4 torque video’s
@demetriuskirkseyful
@demetriuskirkseyful 4 года назад
Want to turbocharge my 383 stroker. What about us conventional guys lol
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I have lots of turbo SBC stuff
@demetriuskirkseyful
@demetriuskirkseyful 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 what do I need? I plan on using holly Sniper stealth efi To run the engine do you have any conventional sbc turbo videos
@loarcoracing.1282
@loarcoracing.1282 2 года назад
I have a 2015 l96 6.0 stock. My plan is to use a gt45 and demon blow through carb. Will be installed in my 79 fox mustang for drag racing. What other cheaper upgrades would you suggest?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
cam
@jeffschwartz5199
@jeffschwartz5199 4 года назад
How many of us can drive thousand horsepower ?
@chuoelfeo
@chuoelfeo 4 года назад
Whats the part number on that s475??
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
not sure-its from LJMS (I'll get specs)
@lifewithred4041
@lifewithred4041 4 года назад
When you gone do the Direct fogger nitrous 5.3
@reesewilliams8671
@reesewilliams8671 4 года назад
Please add the toyota v8 1uz or 2uz fe engine there in American junkyards out lasting the competition
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
i don't have a way to run those on our dyno
@zfreak2808
@zfreak2808 4 года назад
There's nothing wrong with that LSA cam if you size the turbo right. Its just more street friendly.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
the size of the turbo has no effect on what the cam does-the stock LS9 cam loses power down low compared to stock LM7 and other stock cams, as well as good after market grinds
@acanfield87
@acanfield87 4 года назад
Didn't hear anything about gap on this one?
@adamtheninjasmith2985
@adamtheninjasmith2985 4 года назад
Ok so I've been thinking and you know what would be a really interesting comparison? A bunch of engines of various types and setups and the volume of air they consume. I'm talking na, turbo, procharged, big block Chevy, ls, hemi, whatever Ford stuff and compare the volume of air they are consuming at various power levels and how they relate. How much air does a crazy na big block Chevy or hemi use at say 1000 hp compared to say a turbo or supercharged ls or 2jz at the same power? And fuel too. Does it come down to a similar volume of air flowed with the proper amount of fuel equal a general same amount of horsepower?
@tundra2000boy
@tundra2000boy 4 года назад
What's the size of the hot side on the s475? I seen they have multiple sizes hot sides, think most was 1.32?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
this was smaller since it was originally designed for twins
@tunerdadtunerdad7927
@tunerdadtunerdad7927 4 года назад
Great video. Thank you much
@joshuanewell7594
@joshuanewell7594 4 года назад
Would have loved to see the s480 at 16psi
@2GUNMASTER
@2GUNMASTER 4 года назад
I noticed you didn't mention any fuel upgrades. Were there any? Stock fuel injectors?
@81eagle
@81eagle 4 года назад
I would love to know this as well. I have a homebrew turbo AMC 258/4.0 and with stock 4.0 injectors They are at max Duty Cycle @ 7-8psi
@chrisgallimore9083
@chrisgallimore9083 4 года назад
More compression equals more torque and helps that turbo spool faster (especially when sized correctly).
@jesserasso1042
@jesserasso1042 2 года назад
Thanks Richard for your videos
@robertharrison2116
@robertharrison2116 3 года назад
Just the way my brain works
@justinjones9760
@justinjones9760 4 года назад
Did you do anything with ring gap?
@beardwrench
@beardwrench 4 года назад
I really liked this comparison
@dwarfgrumpy
@dwarfgrumpy 4 года назад
So, why isn't Brian Tooley Racing a sponsor on these videos?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
IKR
@plasticglock
@plasticglock 4 года назад
Great video as usual RH! I read all the hot rod magazines back in the day. Like ALL of them. Especially loved MM&FF. I read every one of your articles. You and Revvin' Evan were my favorites. And LL Brule-J, lol. Freiburger and Finnigan too! Such great memories learning the ways of the horsepower junky! I've built a few cars, several engines, couple bikes. I am a driveability tech at a Chevrolet dealer in Texas. Thank you for putting this all together. So many videos coming out so quick. Amazing. I noticed you haven't put any gen 4's on the dyno (I might have missed it.) Should they be avoided? I know you have the gen 4 rods in the 4.8. Have you tested any gen 5's? Those high compression engines have some sweeeeet looking cylinder heads. Keep up the good work Sir!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I ran the a Gen 4 6.0L for the last big bang motor. They are stronger. Most of the motors I find in the yards are early Gen 3s. I also have an L83 5.3L I've run a few tests with.
@plasticglock
@plasticglock 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 Love it!
@AdamOpheim
@AdamOpheim 4 года назад
Why do you always limit rpm and boost in your tests? 16lbs? 7k? On a 4.8? The "big names" in the SBE world are running 8300 rpm on factory heads and 30-40psi. IMO your "wrong part combo" has more potential in an SBE. It will limit the cyl pressures around pk TQ keeping the SBE alive at big power levels. The aftermarket short runner intake will perform much better up top. Where it matters in a race application. And limit power down low that will bend rods and shatter ring lands. Would be nice if you stepped it up for us and ran some rpm and boost through these engines to show what they are really capable of! The big TQ setups will grenade themselves at huge boost levels in actual race applications.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
These are everyday street/strip applications. I don't have to show the racers that are running 8300 rpm and 30-40 psi what works, they already know. I did the Big Bang stuff for the pin-the-gate crowd!
@AdamOpheim
@AdamOpheim 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 Appreciate the response! Didn’t mean to come off negative, you have a great channel! I’m by no means the “big money racer crowd”. But with moderate part list and lots of boost my 4.8 is an 8 second car. My gen 3 5.3 was an 8 second car with 317 heads and an LS9 cam in fact. And I feel if I ran your suggested parts list it would have twisted up the rods in a heart beat. A lot of your videos promote big mid range power. Which looks great on an engine dyno graph, but doesn’t do much but haze the tires. 90% of the “Average joe” guys aren’t going to be able to use “big power” at relatively low RPM. I’d put a low compression slug with minimal cyl pressure near PK TQ up against any of those combos at big boost and RPM and run circles around them at the track or the street. Your big bang stuff is legendary! But again you limited the rpm and boost… perhaps you’ll make another VID for us one day and show what is really possible. Thanks for all you have done!
@ericflower9855
@ericflower9855 4 года назад
I cant wait to see that video of why 2 turbos are better then one....are they? Hmmm
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
twice as good
@timgarrington6828
@timgarrington6828 4 года назад
Hi what size twin turbos would you suggest for ls stroked to 408 With Frankenstein racing heads running twin charge coolers And what power would you expect Have you done a similar set up on your channel Thanks Tim
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
DEPENDS ON TURBOS
@timgarrington6828
@timgarrington6828 4 года назад
Richard Holdener I was looking at S475 /s480 or S488 Which size would you recommend Is biggest best or would that give too longer spool up time with On a BUILT LS 408
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 года назад
Myself and the squirrels are curious on what the twin turbo equivalent to the S475 would be . What's a half of a s475 ? T3/T4 twin or something ?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
Twin GT35s or so
@johnwoodworth248
@johnwoodworth248 4 года назад
Richard Holdener awesome thank you sir , I enjoy watching your posts . Your posts along with a mix of engine masters road kill roadkill extra and ( RU-vid myvintageiron7512 ) are all I watch basically . I'd like to see the day that you have your own dedicated show on MotorTrend also
@jakecolyar5262
@jakecolyar5262 3 года назад
What size turbine housing is on the S475? Or atleast what’s the optimal size for this truck style setup?
@countryguy2007
@countryguy2007 4 года назад
What about going even cheaper on that tried and true setup and running a stock ls6 or ls9 cam in say, a 5.3? Only asking because that’s exactly what I have and want to know what kind of power that and the infamous eBay turbo would do😂
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
the ls6 cam with the ebay Gt-45 turbo on a 5.3l can make near 800 hp (flywheel)
@countryguy2007
@countryguy2007 4 года назад
This is why I love to follow you, quick and precise responses! Thank you! Also, shout out for joining the LS swap Squarebody page on FB, you are exactly what we need on that page!
@Mrrockbucketman
@Mrrockbucketman 4 года назад
At the 825 horsepower level do you need more ring gap?
@81eagle
@81eagle 4 года назад
And what injectors? Stock?
@melkerpersson3323
@melkerpersson3323 2 года назад
Witch sort of motorcontroller do you use Ignition and fule
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
HOLLEY HP
@john-sutton-tn
@john-sutton-tn 4 года назад
On a large single turbo application would you run a twin turbo cam because you have it or buy a new single turbo cam? What’s the difference?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
you will see no difference
@john-sutton-tn
@john-sutton-tn 4 года назад
Thank you sir!
@grahamboydboostedls1069
@grahamboydboostedls1069 4 года назад
Good video 👍 Would you ever do a blow through carb vs EFI test ??
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I've run lots of blow-through carb stuff
@grahamboydboostedls1069
@grahamboydboostedls1069 4 года назад
Richard Holdener Oh I’ll have to look in to the archives a little more Thanks for your time keep the videos coming 👍✌️
@Crysmatic
@Crysmatic 4 года назад
Please do the L83 and even LV4 (baby Stage II Buick). they're starting to appear in junkyards fairly cheap.
@TurboJohn74
@TurboJohn74 4 года назад
KISS theory in practice here, shunning the internet keyboard warrior know it alls. Richard, did you have to gap rings on this mule?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
we did
@tommylyeah
@tommylyeah 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 - How do you like to gap your rings?
@woodgrain18
@woodgrain18 4 года назад
It really comes down to the application I talked to you on FB about my old 4.8 setup it was a 2011 4.8 sbe I had decked PRC CNC'ed 799's LJMS cam and BTR springs trunion upgrade ls7 lifters good pushrods a summit brand 102mm fabricated intake and TB with Bosch 210s on ignite e90 in a 3300 pound 99 z28 with a Huron speed single t6 turbo kit with a really nice water to air intercooler I started with a s475 t6 1.32 exhaust basically throwing the beans at it and not picking up power so I threw nitrous on it a single fogger nozzle in the charge pipe and ended up goin 5.60's in the 1/8 a good deal came up on a billet wheel s480 same 1.32 exhaust side I also went to a 5" hood exit to a 4" bumper exit Exhaust and made a converter change and out of the box was almost running what the s475 was running with spray (the converter did help but it was mostly turbo I got curious about methanol injection so I put my nitrous fuel solenoid back on and added another fogger nozzle in the charge pipe and ramped the methanol in similar to how I did with the nitrous on my Holley hp setup and went 5.63 first pass out with the methanol it ended up goin a pb of 5.53 @ 124mph crossing the line at 7886 rpm it was a mean 4.8 but got stupid and trying to go faster I put the spray back on it first pass killed it before the 330 but if you was to run that setup on the street it wouldn't be all that fun until 5000-7800 rpm and it would probably be a good idea to keep the nitrous especially if it's in a heavier car lol but I love 4.8s il take one over a 5.3 all day
@ToprankImporters
@ToprankImporters 4 года назад
I'd love to see a video addressing turbolag. I've done some of my own analysis on cars I deal with, and I see it as ! mostly a perception related to the if torque increase that boost produces.
@HaZo0oMo
@HaZo0oMo 4 года назад
I thought 706’s got higher compressior since it’s got smaller chamber volume compare to the 317!
@jimmy_olds
@jimmy_olds 4 года назад
I’m just now getting into the LS stuff, I have a ton to learn which is why I’m here. Where does an average Joe go to get a tune to make the cam and turbo work as they should? I have feeling as well 500+ horsepower and a stock 4L60 is on borrowed time?
@BTB31
@BTB31 4 года назад
could you do a test with the summit turbo ls cams ?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
I have videos up on the summit cams
@BTB31
@BTB31 4 года назад
ok thanks
@yotaismygame
@yotaismygame 4 года назад
Ls9 cam, small turbo for quick spool light street truck? Quick boost to fill in the low end? And the ls9 cam to help with the top end? Just kicking around ideas.
@devinmoss1127
@devinmoss1127 3 года назад
Stock injectors? What are you tuning with?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 года назад
stock inj aren't big enough-holley hp ecu
@jakevalent6180
@jakevalent6180 4 года назад
Why the 15 sec digs? seems like you're trying to hurt it
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
We run it at 300 rpm per second-typical engine dyno
@EGGINFOOLS
@EGGINFOOLS 4 года назад
Love these videos. Thanks Richard
@chrisemanuel8052
@chrisemanuel8052 4 года назад
Why does the motor in the n/a video have trickflow heads?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
better photo
@soundslikealot
@soundslikealot 4 года назад
Another awesome test, thanks Richard! Great comparison.
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 года назад
Great video:) ( please keep in mind All my research is for the 6.0) I thought the only compression difference between the 317s and the 706 was if it was an LQ9 verse LQ4 I thought the flat versus dished pistons created the difference in compression with the 317. Though if the 4.8 is a flat piston engine I can see why there would be A substantial compression difference. Thank you teaching us all. Oh I mentioned to you in one of my community posts I had a question I figured you would know / spot
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
Thnx, the chamber volume difference between the 706 and 317 head is over 10 cc, the heads will change compression regardless of which piston of displacement you run them on.
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 года назад
Richard Holdener right if I am not mistaken the 706 combustion chamber is 61.15cc as opposed to the 317 which is 70.06cc if I’m not mistaken. Please keep in mind my speciality is the 7MGTE and the 2jz. So I don’t know a lot about the LS only what I researched for my 6.0 GS build. That is why I watch you 🤘. But for example with my 6.0 if I was to go from the stock 317 heads over to the 706 I would actually increase my compression ratio aswell as decrease the size of my intake valve. In my mind as I am using the Edelbrock cross ram intake with TwinTurbo the 706 heads would be a downgrade from my stock 317 heads. I am also Porting and polishing the intake and exhaust ports and I Polished the combustion chamber. If I am mistaken please let me know. Thank you and keep making these awesome videos
@a807511
@a807511 2 года назад
So were both of these motors torn apart and ring gapped?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
both had gap
@TurboDog73TX
@TurboDog73TX 4 года назад
Where's Your hands?! It's just not the same..
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
they aren't going away
@robertharrison2116
@robertharrison2116 3 года назад
Realizing that I made some typos while voice texting but I think you get the point
@boatherton3018
@boatherton3018 4 года назад
Richard is the dyno myth buster awesome stuff
@mtbsobe
@mtbsobe 2 года назад
I listen to some guy on the internet but that guy is you haha
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
big mistake
@sammytkelly4752
@sammytkelly4752 4 года назад
I would like to see some 302 , 351w turbo combos.
@studio571
@studio571 4 года назад
lsa cam suck on any application.. well in mild lsa build just fine... more less fair would be using ls9 cam.. it aint the best on turbo use but way better than the lsa cam.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
the factory lsa cam is milder than the LS9-this was an after market PD blower cam
@studio571
@studio571 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 yes lsa cam is near the stock one, ls9 in the middle and brian tooley is ... well we all know that..
@plumbs7199
@plumbs7199 4 года назад
Any ring gap ?
@moedigzz
@moedigzz 4 года назад
A proper setup vs a fanboi setup. The proper setup will win every time. Even the cost of the setup was cheaper than the fanboi setup. Just because it looks cool, doesn't mean it will make more power. Most times, factory intake manifolds will always make more useable power "under the curve" and therefore translates to a quicker, more responsive setup.
@cordovser3
@cordovser3 4 года назад
what injectors are you running on that e85 s475 BTR Stage 2 combo thats making 800 plus
@travisrohrer5482
@travisrohrer5482 4 года назад
I like the video you are doing, how about put twins 475 on your 5.3.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
we did that already-but on a 6.0L (Gen 3 and Gen 4)
@travisrohrer5482
@travisrohrer5482 4 года назад
@@richardholdener1727 ok cool I will watch it. thanks.
@pedaltothemetal3871
@pedaltothemetal3871 2 года назад
Do open the ring gap or just leave it alone on these tests?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 2 года назад
YES ON GAP
@samuelcamacho4724
@samuelcamacho4724 4 года назад
ur awsome
@maxlink3914
@maxlink3914 4 года назад
Dammit Richard, NOW whos gonna buy my 2 sets of 317s!?!
@rickybobby0314
@rickybobby0314 4 года назад
Nice video
@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915
@joeyjojojr.shabadoo915 4 года назад
You need to talk more about PROPER SIZED hot-side A/R housings rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater and simply bolting on a bigger overall turbo in each of your vids.
@JoseFlores-xy7pn
@JoseFlores-xy7pn 4 года назад
What was the A/R on the S475 turbo
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 4 года назад
1.0 T4 with 83mm wheel on the S475
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