I drive the Wolf Warrior and recently made an accident. Please, please, please, wear complete full gear protection. It saved my life at a speed of 36 mph
@@Chai_biscuits77 If I had no helmet at least, I would have 100% suffered a broken skull, because I fell down hell right on my head. Neck was hurting but luckily no injuries, just suffered a fracture thumb which healed after 4 months.
We're to the point where a scooter with this kind of performance should really do away with folding stem. They tend to be a liability on all scooters and 50mph is not the place to fool around
I think it's nice to have the folding mechanism, but it needs to be well done, like Rion. They have a simple latching system, but it feels super secure.
@@AlienRides i agree they're nice to have on portable devices, but you could easily improve safety and lower the cost of high performance rides. IMO holding onto that bastion of portability is holding back high end high performance scooters. Like it's trying to pretend that it's something that it isn't. I'm not saying remove the option on all scooters, but one of these hyper car edition scooters really needs all the strength possible. Removing that common fail point is a huge benefit
Finally a video on the beast! you can just order 1.75inch steel roll cage clamps from Ebay or Amazon to eliminate the cracking sound and wobble that comes with the stock clamps.
Why fold it when it's touching 150 lbs? "Portability" becomes a laugh at that point. I wonder if I could request a solid stem from the factory? Not going to lift it and hang it on a wall just park it in the garage.
1: you look totally different with out your helmet 2: I enjoy watching yu breakdown the specs 3: Its a joy to know you are a professional 4: I like how we get to be the passenger as yu ride. Sir be safe and maybe one day Ill get to ride with you.
8:32 The display is usually not calibrated by the factory. They just slap it on. You have to go into the settings and change the wheel size to the actual wheel size it has to get the correct measurement displayed.
Yup, good observation. It actually came with 11 as the setting, which is actually the correct tire size, but folks are saying it's accurate at 10.2 or so. Maybe we'll try again with a GPS recording.
@@AlienRides yeah because car wheels are measured at the rim while e scooter wheels are measured as tyre diameter. So the display is calibrated for rim measurement. it's the same on all scooters even a JueShuai X48 when reading 49kph was acturally going about 41
*THEY SHOULD MAKE ALL ELECTRIC SCOOTERS* with a max speed of 60 mph. Honestly I would get to my job and my college so quickly! It would eliminate being late to class or work.
@@entvisual You should go faster than that. Even the 1600w Emove Cruiser can get to 25- 28 mph. You should ride at 35- 45 mph and go together with the traffic. Ride on the center of the lane not so close to the curb or on the sidewalk.
@@AlienRides not quite the same, but you should see some of the roads out here in Texas. It's scary even in a car sometimes. I'm thinking of sections of I-10 and other roads where they poured them with concrete slabs. After a while instead of concrete slabs you had concrete ramps. Some of the roads in downtown Houston are pretty terrible and out here in Dallas. But I also kicked around on skateboards and older kick scooters, not to mention my first EV, a razor electric scooter with a friction drive motor that went a whole 15 mph. That thing was fun but you really had to be careful on those little 6-in wheels. Then I got a gas powered one that had 12-in wheels and disc brakes. there were some bumps around my place that would jar the teeth out of your head. I could get that one up to 45 mph. It was pretty cool, the angriest two-cycle motor you ever heard.
Not t all I’ve hit big ass holes going top speed... these are not like razor scooters I go 44 MPH ams ive hit holes that have mead me go wtf?! But between the shocks sped and weight? nope
I knew it! Everyone told me I "had the modes wrong" when I only got this thing to ~52mph! It's still a fast scooter, but nothing from the Zero/turbowheel/Apollo lineup can get 60mph. Yet. Another thing. I believe the steering dampener was on backwards on your scooter. When you steer the bar should protrude toward the front. When I measured the actual diameter of the inflated tires it was more like 10 ¹/² inches, which accounts for the speed difference between advertised and actual. P.S. that drone footage in the fog is epic, well done mate.
Yeah I think low 50s on flat ground is more likely. Nice observation around the tire size, I bet slightly larger tires would help achieve 60mph. Nice seeing you 👽🖖
GPS-verified 56.7mph on my friend's Phaeton. Can likely do a little more, since he's a heavier guy. Those road-side MPH readouts aren't that accurate either. And yes, damper is on backwards, unfortunately. This has been addressed in an updated manual for the Phaeton. It's easy to fix this, of course.
@@GingerOnWheels Not really. I have the screenshot from his run. Either way, it's not 60mph so you still win that argument. :) 2 v 1? More like 3-0. :P
Thank you again for a program that’s for veteran riders, unlike Chuck’s. However maybe u should watch OUT for Chuck... His last (APOLLO) video, with Apollo’s owners, was real MEAT!!!! Truly great info on the LUDO’s controller. I’m all about this possibly rare diamond in our scooter world. Seems like it could maybe be a one-time chance to get a scooter with both linear accel AND E-braking. In the video the owners said that they blew up and burned up a lotta stuff before getting that controller harnessed. Also, of note, RION was interested in the same controller, but haven’t to date, been able to incorporate it into their line. That controller is probably a hand grenade, just waiting to explode. LOVE IT. I’m 66 years old. When I go out, I want it to be riding on a hand grenade at 60 miles an hour, with my hair on fire...
Thanks for stopping by! Chuck and ESG do a really good and detailed job. I'm supposed to be getting the "Ludo" shortly, so we'll see what it's capable of. Rion was supposed to use the same Stormcore controller, but turns out they can't handle the amps of the Rion, so they explode. Shame because it would be amazing on the Rion.
Alien Rides Is THAT why? I imagined that it was the volatile NATURE of the thing. (Narrow parameters, ect), and that that, even though this thing (electrically speaking) is built like a brick shit-house, they just gave up finding the golden egg..
This is literally my dream scooter 😭👌👍🏼😁, I just think a scooter of this caliber deserves a horn and not a bell 😕. Anyway, it is a speed demon and it's faster than the Currus Panther too 😳😯
@@WHITELIONNYC oh yeah Rions are at the top when it comes to speed, i just prefer this one because of its looks the rion is plain, but yes... It is a speed demon
@@teslacybertruck750 oh yeah for sure...dream vs reality! Yes as daily scooter this is pretty much overkill anyway but for us it's just about right. 💪🏻😊😊😊👍🏻
Hah, I will say it's definitely more sketchy on a scooter compared to an ebike, but maybe that's what makes it fun. Sounds like you got a nice ebike, ride safe! :alienRides:
The panther can be fitted with an excellent proprietary damper (errex damper), and replacing the original deck by a larger one goes a long way to improve its overall stability. Made in korea will largely outlast any made in china rebrands so that's better for an urban commute oriented escooter. On the other hand the inverted C suspension chinese TG rebrands like the phaeton are exceptionally fun as an off road beater.
Holy crap that scooter weighs as much as I do! The poor delivery guy, haha! It's cool to see what kind of performance you can get when you sacrifice weight and price, though. That's wild.
Somewhat similar to a scooter i purchased out of Houston Texas. The seller buys them wholesale from China. Top speed is 63 mph. I paid $1800 for it. Fastest longest range scooter I've come across.
This was actually shot on a Skydio 2 drone, not as good as a FPV pilot, but still gets some awesome shots! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZQgNIOIzR6c.html
I need to get one for my Mantis. I don't go fast all the time though but it would be nice to have. I'm a firm believer of 'having and not needing than needing and not having'.......lol.
333 dislikes I wonder why ppl dislike videos all the time if it’s not a negative or hate video or go against you. But no matter who you are or how good your video is someone will always dislike. Just don’t watch why dislike. Geez
Hah, yeah there's always a lot of guys who dislike videos, but as a content creator I can't let them get to me or I would've quit a long time ago. Haters gonna hate.
Hmm yes that does make sense. They should program the correct default settings at the factory but I guess since no distributors have complained they don't care.
Yeah, that's a good point, the ESC does determine speed based on the tire size setting, though this is set to the right size already.... Maybe I just need a GPS reader on the handlebars.
Had the same issue on the Kaabo Mantis 8 showing incorrect speedo readings. You could check the number of magnets on the P settings. Adjusting that will also make a huge difference. I had to adjust mine down from 30 to 20 and now my speedo virtually matches the GPS readings. Hope it works for you!
@@Ptoksik be careful with those settings bro the amount of magnets may affect your Speedo reading but regardless you need to tune that with tire diameter. You need the speed controller to accurately know the actual number of magnets in the motor. Its a brushless system bro dont lie to your controller unless you want extra resistance less range and more heat in your components all bad but hey at least you have your Speedo reading correct?
Not sure, what I am missing here: The Stig, showing how to handle and survive such speed with that small tires … or Tim "Tooltime" Taylor explaining the advantage of even more power.
Well... you may remember me from the currus panther talk. Well.. I bought my eagle from ewheels and just really like them as a company. So... I bought the phaeton! had it about 2 weeks.its insane. I went off road tires since I got eagle. Thanks for your input. I love it. I just decided to go biggest and baddest and yolo it lol
Thanks for stopping by again! Awesome you got the Phaeton, amazing combo with the Eagle pro. You’ll have many fun years of riding ahead of you. Ride safe! 👽🖖
Got a 30 mph scooter with a 25 mile range that weighs 24 lbs and can fold and carry easily. Was $1000 retail and got practically new on Facebook market place for $400. Cant justify spending $3600 on an electric scooter imo.
That was an amazing deal, mine is 12 miles range and can go up to 25 mph. Is not that powerful but it gets the job done of getting me to work on time. I got it for $400 so you really got a super deal on your scooter
I still liked though man i still live your videos and it would be cool if you were with friends and ride down rodes down hills and stuff with electric scooters. The only think i dont like about electric scooters are that the 200 dollar ones suck and you cant get a decent one only for a thousand or something
Not really. I bought a car for $2800 and it needs transmission replaced. That would cost me another $1500. Plus you have to pay insurance, registration, etc. With electric scooter you can carry anywhere with you and sleep with it.
Hi. I'm doing some e.scooter ride around videos too and I watch and like your video since before I step in this e.scooting sport. Anyway , good review as always and I can't wait for my Z11X witch will arriving tomorrow !🤝😁👍
I placed my 11x 32ah LG from China 3 weeks ago 🥶🥶🥶🥶the blue edition, this video has got me so hyped, wow the size is jaw dropping, I might look to upgrade the clamps or add a damper, but i doubt I'd be pushing 60, jus wanted extra power at hand ,its traveling to the states now and I can't wait and feel sorry for the delivery guy 🤣😉🤣ill be out there with a dolly when the time comes
greetings from cold Norway. I drive a kugoo every day. every 5 days I have to change the rear tire. Do you know any trick on how to keep the tire intact. I think they deliberately made the inner tube crack often. That you have to buy new tires. Thanks in advance
Sadly some people get really unlucky with inner tubes, one of the reasons I like the tubeless set up better. Your best bet may be to install some solid tires.
ldscooterrider Rion RE60 has no suspension. You can only ride it on smooth roads. Plus if it breaks or needs repairs, good luck on getting it done. The Storm will be the ultimate and I'm sure the build quality will be outstanding.
@@AlienRides hey have you done any reviews on pmt tires for the scooters. Online says they are the best upgrade you can do. Was gonna reach out to see your thoughts on pmt tires.
tom C I haven’t done any specific reviews on those tires, but they are awesome for sure! The Rion uses them and that’s one of the reasons I love riding the Rion so much, they make the handling a dream and really let you get low in the corners. I’ll see about featuring them in a future video.
Woooow amazing scooter! Mine only goes 25mph haha, I would be terrified going up the road on this, gone too fast before at 25 and totalled on my face on slippy pathways, wouldn't like to see my face at 40mph 😰
The fast monster scooters are a lot of fun, and often safer than smaller scooters since they have bigger tires and suspension. Definitely wear a full face helmet if you ride one.
Yeah, I think it's a pretty standard problem with almost all scooters. 36 and 24 is a huge difference though, especially at those lower speeds. I think you need GPS to get an accurate test.
@@ToHaru-Chan Yea I live in VT where dirt roads (where most ppl live) get plowed every 2 days at best and icy snow gets impacted/frozen on them so even driving is dangerous. if I bought this NOW, it'd have until maybe mid october before it starts snowing and this thing becomes useless/a death machine, and would have to wait (or risk breaking my neck) until mid april or so. Oh and you have to be at work in 45 mins and its 0F out at 7am, and the sun still isnt up. Imagine trying to go 60mph down that. THATS what i'd be asking for by buying this. Srsly, buy a used car, this thing is for rich city kids that want to be "adventerous" that day, it wouldn't work 6 months out of the year where its actually needed. im literally better off buying a $1000 landmine of a car and practicing in that. it'd be 1/3 the price XD
Yea your really teaching me something, I mean like I got a scooter. But it helps to have those of your such to really really let us experience the feeling through the video's.... awesome job my mans
That deadzone on the throttle is there that when you have immediate power instead of kick start, it won‘t accelerate your scooter out of your hand while barely touching the accelerator.
You would hate for someone to pull out on you ...."game over." I would rather not be on roads and highways with a silent 60 mile an hr scooter unless everyone else was on one.
Yeah, it's definitely very dangerous. Hoping for improved road infrastructure and dedicated fast PEV lanes in the future, that's a long ways off though. 👽🖖
Pretty darn nice Scooter and nice job unboxing turning the box on its side for unboxing! Save the back and not lifting that beast of scooter! Well done review too Thanks Alien 👾 Rides 🛴 🛴
Cool video! I love the lighting in the fog look. It is great to see another power scooter. For me a scooter should remain at least somewhat portable or I would rather have something like an Onyx RCR or a Zero motorbike to go above 40MPH. I have very limited room to store my PEVs in the garage so I have to be very mindful of space. Even folded down the Phaeton would be difficult to put in the back of my SUV without the seats folded down. The Thunder can at least fold down into a pretty small space since it also has folding handlebars and a much better folding mechanism in general. It says a lot that you think it is comparable to a Thunder as I have found Dualtrons to just feel more solid compared to other scooters I have experienced. I have the Nikola 100V coming this week as I switched from the MSP since it won't be available until the end of this month. It will stand next to my Dualtron Compact neatly in the garage. The Compact barely takes up more space than a small commuter scooter when it is folded. I sold my Mantis and gave away a couple more scooters so I have cleared up space :) I almost have my 3" ducted cinema quadcopter ready to go. I just need a few more parts. It will have the ability to carry a GoPro for better video quality while still having digital video coming back to my goggles. It should easily hit 65MPH so it should be able to chase down most PEVs. It would be cool to get some low shots of your speeding and do some quick acrobatics around you to get a different shot. I always wanted to fly through a group of riders with my smaller, prop-guarded quads to get a unique shot without introducing a big threat with exposed propellers like my bigger quads would introduce.
Yeah, good point about the huge size of the Phaeton and storage, not everyone can fit a beast like this. As you can see my garage is already suffering 😅 Awesome about the Nikola, let me know how you find it. When you're ready, let's go film something with your drone. I'm sure we can gather a small group of riders and setup shots. Maybe we can do a music video with some of that footage? Would be fun!
@@AlienRides Sounds good! As long as your cool with Hero Session quality footage as I never bothered getting a later Hero camera. I definitely see you have similar space constraints :) I am excited to ride something that isn't an MTen3. I do love that little thing. It is really fun in small parks where I take the kid. She rolls around on my Onewheel XR and I follow her on my MTen3. I want something that is a bit more stable above 20MPH.
Another great specced power scooter👍. I like the dual bars on a fast e scooter and that dampener is a must. When are you all riding around SF again? Thanks again. Cheers👍
Yeah, this is a pretty awesome power scooter for sure. Sadly probably no large group rides till after covid right now, but you can find more information about the group at www.baesk8.club.
Yup, the ruckus is definitely safer, though maybe not as fun, and much louder. I definitely will review some electric motorcycles in the future though.
I really like your channel makes me dream of riding an electric scooter. Nice review. If you want to grow your channel you should do giveaways (subscribe, follow...) with those extra scooters you have. you should start with the one who wrote this comment 😉
Genuinely curious here, why not just buy a motorcycle for the budget? You get a lot more safety and security features.. freeway legal, storage/luggage boxes.. a passenger can come.. resale value. This is getting up there in terms of speed and danger. Just bite the bullet and buy a $2k motorcycle and you had $1500 left over for gear and gas
Some people are just big electric hippies like myself and pay more for the technology, and the ability to fold it up stick it in your car, or go on bike lanes.
@MrDrinkgreentea I'm right there with you. I just finished college lol I was broke, lazy, the whole 9. The thing stopping 95% of people from adopting this over a standard motorcycle is the cost. I want this but just can't afford it
@@lucaslucas9505 I've heard that about the UK. In the states, if I own my bike outright I can get liability inly and its between $100-$150 a YEAR. And I had roadside assistance lol
