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TURKISH AIRLINES 777 Business Class【4K Trip Report Istanbul to Ho Chi Minh City】I'll Pass! 

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4K Trip Report on board Turkish Airlines' 777-300ER from Istanbul to Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.
Hi there! My name is Kevin and today we will take a look at Istanbul's new massive airport, the business class lounge, our aircraft & seat, the food & amenities and of course plenty of views and graphics throughout- all wrapped up with The Flip Flop Score.
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Fare Category: Business Class (Paris to Istanbul to Saigon)
Total Fare: 31500 Turkish Miles & Smiles Points (30% off Sale December 2021)
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--Video Chapters--
0:00 Flight Preview
00:23 Intro
00:34 Welcome to Istanbul
00:43 Walking through Departure Hall
02:19 Turkish Airlines Business Class Lounge
02:57 Sad Lounge Food Offerings
03:51 All Night Long Drilling Noise
04:24 Smoking Lounge for “Fresh Air”
04:41 Walking to the Gate
05:09 Flights Stats Graphic
05:20 Boarding via Jetbridge
05:51 First Impressions
06:00 Seat Detail Graphic
06:30 Seat Tour & Amenities
07:07 Versace Eros Amenity Kit
07:30 Safety Video & Pushback
07:45 Turkish Airlines Rebranding
08:00 Taxi to Runway
08:22 Departure Route
08:27 Spool Up Growl
08:50 Take off & Service
09:26 Routing Across Middle East
09:42 Seat Covers & Fully Flat Mode
10:16 Full Menu
10:28 US Retail Prices for Wines
10:37 Disappointing Starter
11:07 Spinach Pie Main
11:18 Bouncy Engine, Snowy Mountains
11:25 Bathroom Amenities
11:36 Free Wi-Fi & IFE
11:56 Sunset Dinner Service
12:07 Cold Mezze & Pumpkin Soup
12:21 “Baby” Desert Chicken
12:51 Moist Turkish Desserts
12:55 Final Approach Routing
13:07 Beautiful Approach Over Saigon
13:46 Landing & Taxi
14:11 Final Thoughts
14:39 The Flip Flop Score
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Комментарии : 263   
@brilliantbutblue
@brilliantbutblue Год назад
For anyone watching that isn't familiar with the Channel the hosts name is Kevin not Sam so you get brutally honest, unsponsored reviews without the BS 😉
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I laughed about the Sam bit hard enough to startle my dog 😂
@sean_king
@sean_king 5 месяцев назад
A very fitting into indeed!
@alanarratoon
@alanarratoon Год назад
This is incredibly honest and perhaps reflects a common sentiment about the rudeness of TK ground staff.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Kikuyo2
@Kikuyo2 2 месяца назад
Not surprised. Turks are guest friendly and accommodating if they see you as a potential customer. But once you complain or demanding, they like to argue back.
@markshilkrut
@markshilkrut Год назад
I think you really nailed down the TK experience.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@virgoenergy6636
@virgoenergy6636 Год назад
Facts! This is the first totally honest review of Turkish airlines from Istanbul airport to their in flight service I have seen on YT. I believe everyone else is either paid or lying to be paid…I flew them once before the pandemic and swore NEVER EVER again!
@gosikh
@gosikh Год назад
I bought a business class seat on TK leaving on March 23rd,2020. Pandemic happened. I asked for a refund as flights were cancelled. TK said that they will extend the ticket Some random date they dropped the extension without notifying me. So, no refund and no ticket. So, NEVER Turkish Airline. EVER!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yes even before Covid they have always been fast and loose with their change policies. Shame about your ticket.
@yunjieangelli7271
@yunjieangelli7271 Год назад
this review was amusing and validating b/c we had almost the same exact experience - delayed flight, rude ground staff, and the driest main dishes. we did get the chef and cart service but no amenities kit or dine on demand. i was also sad to have missed out on the TK lounge experience given many other rave reviews, but i feel better after hearing yours. i think it was lucky that this was our first business class experience, so it still felt very new and exciting. but i imagine a seasoned traveler would be less than thrilled
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@treckerdude
@treckerdude Год назад
Brutally honest review of Turkish Airlines ..awesome ! As usual, well done !
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@raedmaklai3123
@raedmaklai3123 Год назад
your reviews are my favorite!!! I flew turkish just once in their economy. I have never been so infuriated with the crew in my life.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@TheTravelMan
@TheTravelMan Год назад
Hi Kevin, great review, thanks for sharing 👍
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Appreciate that! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@johnmones1450
@johnmones1450 Год назад
Well, this is an eye opener. Based on positive critiques from other travel vlogers I committed to Turkish Airlines for my trip in late July NYC/BSL via IST and my return flight mid August from LON/LAX also via IST. The dye is cast. Hoping for the best. Thanks for the info. Stay well. 👍🙏😎
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@bradw3800
@bradw3800 Год назад
I absolutely love your brutally honest reviews. These are much needed and, hopefully, will result in the airline jacking up their service and showing a greater commitment to excellence overall. Looking forward to the next review.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I gotta hope that I just caught quite a few people on a bad day- but if not then yes, I'd say an overhaul is in order. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@mrtzak
@mrtzak Год назад
The thing you said about their lack of accountability and their distinct lack of hospitality is a very astute observation. On each of my visits to Turkey, every layover, and even flights, I've noticed and felt their hostility and their unwelcoming demeanor from almost 95% of the people I've unfortunately had to interact with including crew.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@aefepiense
@aefepiense Год назад
What a stupid and non sense policy of the airline, and the delay was their fault. What a bad service.
@Tuneitupful
@Tuneitupful 5 месяцев назад
Great review Kevin.
@tfft
@tfft 5 месяцев назад
Thanks very much 🙏🏻
@Yves_Ka
@Yves_Ka Год назад
I was in the IST lounge 2 days ago and the situation has changed there dramatically. Nothing is pre/individually packed anymore. Breakfast and salad self service buffets are open and all the hot food is available 24 hrs. The omelette maker was very cheerful and friendly. The airport is buzzing and all sections are open. Sadly the the A330 and 777 seats are seriously outdated. I was flying business within Europe in a 4 legged flight (2x 321 neo and 2 737 MAX) and with the exception of the same dry chicken on my trip back home, the rest of the food on all 3 legs was excellent. The aircraft were beautiful and the new BUS seats on these aircraft are top. All in all I think that THY has big deficits on their long distance but huge advantages on their narrow body Euro Business.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yes I'm inclined to agree with you about the differences between short and long haul. I am at least glad to know the food in the lounge and on board has come back up to a better standard though since I'll be flying them again short haul in a couple weeks. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@beetrootsoup3130
@beetrootsoup3130 Год назад
@@tfft Looks like they listened to you😂
@Glacussia
@Glacussia Год назад
Appreciate the honest review.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@aliakhter9566
@aliakhter9566 Год назад
Wow I was about to book Turkish, thank God I saw this video before deciding, Turkish and Qatar were my top 2 for upcoming US trip and now it’s clear that I would go Qatar even though it’s a bit more expensive but Turkish airlines attitude with you and looking at Qsuits 😁 it’s clear for me
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Enjoy! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Kliffy77
@Kliffy77 Год назад
I stopped flying Turkish & using Turkish airports due to rudeness.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@lfalquer
@lfalquer Год назад
I love your reviews. I trully hope you continue this channel as I have yet to find such detailed reviews that makes sense like your videos.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Oh the channel isn’t going anywhere, you can bet on that! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@MarouFlights
@MarouFlights Год назад
Nice review👍🏻 I managed to fly their B777 and A330 in Business Class.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@iAxianguy
@iAxianguy 2 месяца назад
OMG! Guess I will be flying with Turkish Air after your report. Was think of flying from SIN to Cai 😮
@tfft
@tfft 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@gosikh
@gosikh Год назад
Loooooove your channel!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@GuiLeite
@GuiLeite Месяц назад
From what I've seen, the experience with Turkish varies greatly depending on the aircraft. I flew GRU-IST on a A350-900, and it was not bad. Then the next leg, IST-MUC, was on a much older A330, and it was OK, not very different. On the way back, MUC-IST was on a A321 (looks like they use a variety of aircraft on that route), and even though it's a smaller aircraft, the experience in business was much better than on the A330. I'm flying with them to Tokyo later this year, and even though I'd much prefer landing in HND, I went with NRT because the configuration for that route is better.
@tfft
@tfft Месяц назад
Sounds like something I'd do lol
@thomasmoore9421
@thomasmoore9421 Год назад
Visiting Istanbul is on my bucket list. I'd love to try tk's 787.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
The city itself is one of my favorites on earth and well worth any trek to get there! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@zakelwe
@zakelwe 3 месяца назад
Your humour is second only in dryness to that Saharan "chicken" you ate. Nice work.
@tfft
@tfft 3 месяца назад
Haha Thanks very much 🙏🏻
@gunvaldsandhaland7757
@gunvaldsandhaland7757 Год назад
Last time i was on a.B777-300 was Kenya Airwaiys in Business maby the air craft coz Turkish Airlines over tok KQ ,S B777-300..GREAT WORK
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@wp8639
@wp8639 Год назад
Great review! I enjoyed it and you always provide really good information without the gimmicky crap from other RU-vidrs.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks very much! I do try to steer clear of making the videos gimmicky- much prefer something efficient and useful. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Thongger
@Thongger 9 месяцев назад
Hello ! Just stumbled across your channel and I enjoy the sharp , no nonsense content . Have your flown Turkish airlines since this review ? They seem to have one of the cheaper business class options from Southeast Asia to London so I’m seriously considering them - my parents have flown them before and had good things to say about them ; but this was long before Covid
@tfft
@tfft 9 месяцев назад
I have one more recent economy TK review on the channel. Have also had family fly them in Business last year and reported a much more normal full service experience than what I had on this flight. Thanks for watching 🩴
@Thongger
@Thongger 9 месяцев назад
@@tfftgreat ! Thanks for the quick reply ; and keep up the great reviews 🙏
@JEH80
@JEH80 Год назад
Great report! I fully agree with your observations. Did 4 business class sectors and was super underwhelmed by all of them. Since then been flying Qatar, and it is light years ahead of Turkish.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yes Qatar is surely in a league of its own! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@JohnDoe-qg1pj
@JohnDoe-qg1pj Год назад
you get what you pay for no?
@markshilkrut
@markshilkrut 7 месяцев назад
Great and honest review. TK stuff is rude, especially on the ground. The food sometimes is great and sometimes just ok.
@tfft
@tfft 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@shabbyshab7800
@shabbyshab7800 Год назад
The whole Turkish Airlines experience from when you first enter the airport to and during the flight is filled with some of the most indifferent, rude and unwelcoming employees I have never experienced at an international airport!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Patrick-xo8ht
@Patrick-xo8ht Год назад
Love this brutally honest review! I always thought the chefs outfits were a fun touch giving the illusion of fine dining. Sounds like they got rid of it. Also can relate to the dreaded 2-3-2 configuration lol. Love your channel. Keep up the great work!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ViNguyen-ck4uy
@ViNguyen-ck4uy Год назад
I was planning to fly this route next year! Lol 😆 Great content as always
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
It's still worth it if you can get it for a great price!
@tjittekamminga5170
@tjittekamminga5170 Год назад
in the 1970s I regularly flew from the middle east/istanbul to and from amsterdam: at that time THY was only intended for guest workers and I had as a diplomatic person to fly with KLM in the then 'royal class'. well everything has changed (luckily). funny to see, that Turkish Airways seems to be much better then klm!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for sharing ✈️
@PipinhoSnow
@PipinhoSnow Год назад
welllllll im going do it!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@yvonneyu7567
@yvonneyu7567 Год назад
Great honest review! I really enjoy (and prefer) the vocal narration over the text ones. Just thought I’d share that!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks very much. Narration is surely here to stay.
@Leah985
@Leah985 Год назад
Please do the viet nam airline review asap. Thks so much for your honest review. ❤❤
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Published one yesterday! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Guido99
@Guido99 Год назад
Hi Kevin. Thanks for your honest opinion and sharing your experience. Always a great help and I apreciate
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks very much for watching 🙏🏻
@Guido99
@Guido99 Год назад
@@tfft 🙏
@aefepiense
@aefepiense Год назад
Hahahaha dessert chicken 😂An awesome description of a horrible dried to the core chicken 😅😅
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@nafeekarim2780
@nafeekarim2780 2 месяца назад
I want to travel with Turkish airline one day
@tfft
@tfft 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@ViNguyen-ck4uy
@ViNguyen-ck4uy Год назад
Did you have to lug around your luggage and camera gears the entire time you were delayed ? Were there at least places where you can store your things overnight ?
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I did personally, yes, because I don't let my bags out of my sight, but in the beginning of the lounge part of the video there was a shot of the self service luggage lockers. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ViNguyen-ck4uy
@ViNguyen-ck4uy Год назад
@@tfft I wasn't sure if those lockers were for everyone or not
@Darth_Zamiel
@Darth_Zamiel Год назад
sad to see you're experience was less than great. before 2020, the reviews of this airline (that i watched) were fairly positive; mostly because of the lounge. between the geo-political situation, and the Turkish economic situation, i'm guessing emerging from lockdowns is more difficult for this airline than many others. hopefully they will regain their glory in the next year 😎
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Quite the opposite in fact, to my knowledge Turkey was one of the very first countries to reopen and TK enjoyed healthy load factors (relatively speaking) throughout. If any thing I would guess they’re benefiting from a mass influx of Russian transit pax. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@emrexcicek
@emrexcicek Год назад
Hi there, thank you for your honest review. I have a special emotional bond to Turkish Airlines resulting from my childhood, and I have flown Business Class with TK before, nonetheless I always always try to be very honest and non-biased. I agree, you did not have a TK Business Class experience as it should be. I am very disappointed, especially by the lounge employees. As you said, worse than them not being able to find a solution is their behavior towards you. This is not Turkish hospitality, and my background is Turkish so I can truly say that. The inflight meal service wasn‘t quite Business Class like as well, unfortunately. And yes, I do hate the middle seat in a 2-3-2 configuration as well. In their A350s and B787-9s they have a 1-2-1 configuration, which is how it is supposed to be nowadays, especially if you are a global brand. Nonetheless there is one thing that you should have mentioned, in my opinion. Which is: Change the route, change the crew, and you have a completely different experience. This is applicable to almost any airline in the world. This experience does not depict how every single TK Business Class experience has ever been and will ever be. Change the route and the crew, and you have an absolutely flawless experience with TK. Change it again and you will have maybe a mediocre experience. Yes, airlines should have a certain standard and guidelines, but as mentioned, this would also apply to other airlines, even the fancy ones like Emirates, Qatar, British Airways, Singapore Airlines, etc. Thank you though, I gave this video a thumbs up for your honesty. Much love, Emre
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Sure I completely agree different routes and different crews and different circumstances would have resulted in a completely different review. My videos aren’t meant to be about airlines as a whole, but rather just my one flight experience. In the same way that one Westin might be fantastic and another absolutely horrible, both of those reviews deserve to stand alone on their own. I’ll be flying TK again in a few weeks, we shall see how it goes. And yes, I am very familiar with Turkish hospitality. Some years ago I was on an over landing trek from Istanbul to Beijing and we crossed across the whole of Turkey and onto Iran. From joining an impromptu wedding in Selçuk, sharing stories with some locals while hiking in the Ihlara Valley, being offered more wine and cheese than we could possibly eat every time we were bush camping- at every turn we enjoyed the hospitality… it is a beautiful country for sure… if only Turkish Airlines could represent it more consistently 😊
@stevene465
@stevene465 Год назад
Just simply Kevin - NO - I’d have chosen SQ with the stop thanks
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
SQ wasn’t available for 31,500 points 😉
@lawrenceakini9507
@lawrenceakini9507 Год назад
Thanks for this vlog. I love your honesty on this presentation. Many thanks. Ciao.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@phantomopera5525
@phantomopera5525 Год назад
The non-staggered seats are already a scond-rate business class these days.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@emrefifty5281
@emrefifty5281 Год назад
Im sorry, that you had a bad experience with them, personally I have flown with them many times and was always satisfied. Also I don’t think that your experience is the norm. Otherwise Istanbul wouldn’t be the second busiest Airport in the World and Turkish Airlines the Airline being regarded by most as one of the best.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I certainly hope it wasn't the norm, especially for the food! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Rocketed12
@Rocketed12 Год назад
There are as many 'experiences' as there are individuals, on planet earth. It's unhealthy to have a herd/sheep mentality where you refuse to accept one man's negative experience of this airline, which is equally as valid and as helpful as a man's experience who has nothing but great things to say about Turkish Airlines
@jjjddd231
@jjjddd231 4 месяца назад
Just because an airport is one of the busiest in the world doesn't say anything about the quality of services in that airport. Furthermore, apart from Turks most people do not regard Turkish Airlines as one of the best, far from it.
@jonnieinbangkok
@jonnieinbangkok Год назад
Travelers do tend to rave about Turkish Airlines...especially their Do & Co supplied food service. The Business Class lounge at the old Istanbul Airport got rave reviews too but this was all pre-Covid. I guess Turkey's ongoing economic difficulties, along with the pandemic, have really thrown this airline for a loop.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
The Do&Co is what I was so looking forward to 😭 Oh well… many more great airlines to choose instead. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@paulkazzer
@paulkazzer Год назад
Do & Co do their best work on Austrian if ever the itinerary permits.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
December! Looking forward to trying them for the first time. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@shabbyshab7800
@shabbyshab7800 Год назад
Their original lounge in Ataturk Airport was much better. The new one is basic and underwhelming,
@Michele-ot8bh
@Michele-ot8bh 7 месяцев назад
Will never waist my money to fly them after the attitude of ground and lounge staff- unbelievable!
@tfft
@tfft 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@baliwalknshops1517
@baliwalknshops1517 Год назад
Thanks again for sharing
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@carrotc4449
@carrotc4449 Год назад
Totally love your honest opinion! Thanks 😊
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@kevinkelly8037
@kevinkelly8037 Год назад
I flew TK 8 times long haul business class and agree, never really liked the food, seat, or service, all just adequate, and always amazed by the people who gush over "the candlelit dinner" Unless the price is so much cheaper than the competition I gladly pay a little more to fly the competitor.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yeah there’s certainly a cost tipping point where it still makes sense to fly with TK even if it’s not the greatest. For the fare I paid I’d certainly do it again. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Also forgot to mention I have a TK short haul Economy video coming out in a few weeks… the meal on that flight was incredible and I do believe it was exactly the same chicken/rice meal I had in this video, but executed much better.
@sharonpapkin8574
@sharonpapkin8574 6 месяцев назад
Well it's fare worse then what I experienced with turkish airlines. The airport is amazing and open 24/7 in Europe they close on 23 I was in same hours like you, and in 5 AM you already have hot dishes. This is not only the biggest lounge but the best in Europe too, the selection of food, the true coffe, art gallery, all the games. And it's the only company in Europe that gives you business seat in inside Europe flights
@tfft
@tfft 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing ✈️
@shakesnbake
@shakesnbake Год назад
My friend runs.a flight review channel as well and you will not believe the hate he got from TK fanboys! Shocking as was the service you recieved
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Fanboys always think they rule the roost! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@lawrenceosborne1946
@lawrenceosborne1946 Год назад
My experience of Turkish completely
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@mickc8452
@mickc8452 Год назад
I had almost the exact same experience in May going from JFK -IST- SGN. Lounge agents extremely rude, and don't give a crap. Going in, had high hopes based on other RU-vid reviews. Unless that 30% percent discount comes around again, no way I will fly Turklish again. Appreciate your honest reviews. I am also base out of SGN so I already hit up a few of places you reviewed.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yeah, at the end of the day- for the price I paid I would do it again even if I knew that it would include the crap food and rude staff, it's just too good of a deal. But, I'd never think to pay near full price of this one. Since June they've switched to a 787-9 for their SGN service though, which does sweeten the deal a bit! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@emrefifty5281
@emrefifty5281 Год назад
Istanbul Airport was constructed to be huge, because it is planned to be the worlds largest airport in the future, with up to 200 million passengers yearly. not for the sake of being big
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Sure, so let's wait and see when they're hit 200m 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@bizim_eller
@bizim_eller Год назад
Wake up emre wake up, it is never gonna happen unless us Turks change who we are 180 degrees and it ain't happening!!
@brilliantbutblue
@brilliantbutblue Год назад
Sorry l don't think l caught how dry the chicken was 🤪
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Allow me to head to the Sahara to explain 😂
@Guccifer350
@Guccifer350 Год назад
You surely deserve more subscribers than Sam Chui man! Keep up the good work.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Well that would surely make my day 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@sean_king
@sean_king 5 месяцев назад
So they delayed your flight overnight, refused to acommodate you in their lounge sleeping areas, and the agent even scolded you? Imagine giving them thousands of dollars for a business class ticket only to feel unappreciated later on... totally unacceptable! "If i give you access, i should let every business class passenger on your flight know and give them access as well"? Well maybe yes, if that adds to passenger comfort that's your job to do
@tfft
@tfft 5 месяцев назад
Haha my thought exactly.
@Qacc6
@Qacc6 Год назад
I actually find Daxing a much more walkable airport than Capital, even though its footprint is bigger. A lot of thought apparently went into the design of the layout, as well as many traveler-friendly details such as the luggage check-in conveyor belt that slopes down to touch the ground and saves people the trouble of lifting heavy suitcases onto it. PEK's layout does indeed make you walk too much, and it's dotted with aesthetically questionable large-scale decoration pieces, but it doesn't appear/feel cheap and was not built with cheap materials. The "fair-faced concrete" of its columns has a clean, muted elegance . And the extensive use of skylights and glass curtain walls are a great touch, though not the most energy-efficient in winter. The entire terminal 3 is impressive enough, and modern enough, compared to its peer airports, but I agree it's not the most relaxing and welcoming.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I should have been clearer in my comments, but when I'm speaking about the cheaper materials I'm more speaking about the passenger touch materials and facilities. Bathrooms, lounge furniture, eatery seating, gate area layouts, etc. Not questioning the quality of overall construction and do agree that T3 is a beautiful structure. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@bunkey1
@bunkey1 11 месяцев назад
I still cant believe that the seats were smaller by an inch or 2 than some economy seats I’ve flown. Great legroom though
@tfft
@tfft 11 месяцев назад
Eh? These seats are 21” wide. There are no economy seats on earth that are 22+” wide…
@tanletran7270
@tanletran7270 Год назад
Thank you for sharing & thank you for the warning about Turkish Airlines 's poor customer services especially in the lounge area. I will stick to Singapore Air or Japan Air for the consistency in both soft & hard products
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Oh yeah for sure, SQ is always one to beat. Very excited to have Cape Town to Saigon and Mumbai to New York booked with SQ in the coming months. Knowing I have those flights coming up makes all the crappy ones in between worth it haha. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@tanletran7270
@tanletran7270 Год назад
@@tfft Wow that is a lot mileage you are collecting
@cagrisimsek7995
@cagrisimsek7995 8 месяцев назад
The country's name was always "Türkiye," but probably because of its difficult pronunciation, foreigners would pronounce it as "Turkei," others as "Turkey," "Turquie” and so on. Interestingly, we also seemed to be okay with the country's name being passed differently abroad. I think it wasn't too bad to put an end to this ambiguity at some point.
@tfft
@tfft 8 месяцев назад
Sure, I know the name of the country has always been that in Turkish, I think this is more about the country's English name. Would be similar to Spain asking the UN to have their official name, in English, be España. Thanks for watching 🩴
@olavthewiking3700
@olavthewiking3700 Год назад
ist is massive lounge. normally i always try to have at least 10h layover for booz and food.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Massive yes, but bigger isn't always better...
@lg3103
@lg3103 2 дня назад
Why does this airline not offer champagne as a pre-departure beverage? One of the few who don't.
@tfft
@tfft День назад
Certainly not one of the few. Many airlines don't serve alcohol pre departure, especially from outstations.
@colinrenfrew48
@colinrenfrew48 Год назад
Wow, that’s quite a different video, on Turkish and their new hub. But, it’s well said and it’s going to help other travellers when planning a trip. I think I’d go for Qatar, or Emirates rather than Turkish. Nonetheless, great video. Keep them coming!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Sure I’d go for QR or EK even when compared to TK at their best! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@travelbliss5148
@travelbliss5148 Год назад
I agreed with your review. I flew 4 segment Long Haul in 2019. The food onboard was good and plentiful. The lounge was okay but I like the tea/cofee done turkish style. They also rejected me for pod request in brusque manner. The worst was once after takeoff the crew forbade passengers to go to toilet because turbulence. The turbulence wasn’t bad, so after 45 min waiting I went. A crew accosted me. I told him if I have to wait more the seats will be soaked soon. Then he shut up. Turkish is not even in my top 5 biz class, I had better crew service in economy of Garuda or even some Asian budget air. My favorite is ANA and JAL because the crew are exceptional
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
But still better than United! 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Molloy1951
@Molloy1951 Год назад
I’ve flown Turkish often for the past 7 years. Mostly from Bangkok to Europe and South America. And vice-versa. Their prices and timetable suit me very well. In my experience, Turkish are a little above the average, in comparison to American and European airlines. Food is merely okay. Staff are rude sometimes. Their lounge in İstanbul airport is immense but service is far from nice. Kevin unpleasant experience with Turkish Airlines relates to mine.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@shizumaakiyama3129
@shizumaakiyama3129 Год назад
I think for all the hype their seat are outdated and the service is subpar… i think Most European and American Air carriers are better than Turkish airlines.
@marcusyoung5440
@marcusyoung5440 Год назад
Uh oh. I also took advantage of the 31.5k promo and will soon be flying both their 777 and 787. Lowering expectations. Would you care to pile on a comment about the TK website experience? 😅
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
To be clear, 31.5k points for this route is cheap enough for me to (kinda) happily make it a regular occurance. But yes, I do hate their website, especially when trying to book award tickets that are not in the name of the account holder (which is allowed, but a PITA). Luckily, TK is one of the few airlines on earth where you don't need to wait on hold for more than 5 minutes to talk to an actual human. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@marcusyoung5440
@marcusyoung5440 Год назад
@@tfft I was just on the website to try to confirm my seats. Nope. Website won’t let me even though I can see the tickets. Ah joy. So it’ll have to be a phone call. I’m new to this game. This is only my 2nd redemption. I’ll manage expectations, but as a newbie I’m sure lying flat and having a lounge will be pretty cool for a while. I’m understanding you to say 31.5k comes around regularly? It’s getting me KUL to NAP, and then VIE to SEA. I could get used to that! ☺️ Looking forward to your next videos!
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Ah, you haven’t booked it yet? To my knowledge their 30% redemption sale ended in December. Perhaps it had been extended. Good luck.
@marcusyoung5440
@marcusyoung5440 Год назад
@@tfft I meant I booked it back in Nov or Dec 👍🏼 I just wanted to check on the seat assignments.
@mondabuddhi
@mondabuddhi Год назад
It doesn't surprise me. I have been to Turkey and found everyone in the hospitality to behave as revolting as your lounge staff description.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Perhaps it wasn't as crazy of an experience as I thought it was! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@dellafone
@dellafone Год назад
110% agree with your video about Turkish. I just returned from IST last week and here's my thoughts: - Airport is annoyingly big, for no specific reason - Customer service is non-existent at best. A smile if you're lucky - I paid for a transit lounge only to find out I can't enter when I arrived - Shocking as it may sound, the affordable fares on TK do make it a compelling one. But I'd say dead last choice.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yeah- I mean if I got the same fare again I’d happily use them again but it’s not to say lots of improvements could be made. Kinda not looking forward to my short haul economy flight with them in a couple weeks which will start with 6 hours in the airport 😅 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@dellafone
@dellafone Год назад
@@tfft I did IST to LGW via DLM with TK. Their narrowbody planes in economy are a shitshow. There is so much to unpack here. Here goes: - IST is crazy busy before pre-dawn. - Despite it's size, we still got a remote gate when there was a aerobridge gate right next to us, with a plane parked, unused. - Their narrow body domestic planes are nothing more than flying public buses. - If you're transiting anywhere other than IST, it is just another painful experience - They put us on a 321-200 to LGW; crew disappeared after meal service, were passive aggressive and my entertainiment equipment was very glitchy. Overall, the only salvation was the lower fare as a full fledge carrier and DO & CO Catering. Without their catering, I wouldnt have even considered TK.
@Nowansbeibe
@Nowansbeibe Год назад
I flew their business coz they are cheaper than other business, and its the shortest flights from Berlin - Jakarta. Compare to Qatar Airways.. Turkish is a no go with only 300 euro differences
@beyondthestars4299
@beyondthestars4299 Год назад
The food was little I believe economy class food is much better
@danhsugar1407
@danhsugar1407 Год назад
Was your boarding pass torn at boarding gate?
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
🤷🏼‍♂️ I’d been up for around 29 hours at that point and can barely remember getting on the plane 😂. I would check the boarding pass but it’s at home and I’m out of town. …why do you ask?
@TT-by7tv
@TT-by7tv Год назад
I just flew Qatar KUL DOH FRA and had the exact same impression you have of TK. I am like after reading all the these rave reviews. Both flights sucked! The best was DOH to FRA 787-8 towed from the hanger area with no APU. So let's think about that. It's 42C out and you put a plane in service with no ability to cool it down. When we boarded in DOH it was 90+ on the plane. Everyone was complaining. People were passing out in Y and this is the 5 star Qatar Airways? I think NOT! Will never fly them again.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@williamfonner7297
@williamfonner7297 Год назад
When the we're rude to you in the lounge I would have lost my shit.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
When I’m traveling I have precisely one rule: don’t get arrested in a foreign country 🙃… so generally speaking, I keep a cool head regardless of the absurdity- especially in an unpredictable country like Turkey. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@jvera828
@jvera828 Год назад
For the price you're paying for business class, you should have full access to lounges whenever wherever.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@JAPAN4K
@JAPAN4K Год назад
Wonderful video my friend +👍🔔
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@AS-br8si
@AS-br8si Год назад
How do you find cheap flight ?
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Daily searching and scouring every frequent flyer group online. Google Flights should be your first stop. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@shriramvenu
@shriramvenu Год назад
whelp. i will seriously think long and hard about spending my hard earned money on a Turkish airlines business class ticket after seeing your review. it seems other reviews only have good things to say about turkish
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@carolinelane9599
@carolinelane9599 Год назад
Something must have gone wrong here. The food looks horrendous. And yes the airport is ridiculously huge. We timed it. From time we got off the plane to outside was 35 mins which didn't include getting our luggage. Totally nuts. We flew 4 flights in BC with Turkish in October. Our trip was totally different. Our food was brilliant. Better than our last flight on Emirates. Service was fine as was Emirates. Seats as comfy as Emirates. Better than Singapore Airlines A350. They were hard as a rock. You spring to fly BC so you can sleep. Not on Singapore Airlines. Overall we put Qantas as the top BC. Yes they have copped a flogging in the press, but for us they were brilliant. Then Turkish. Emirates. Then Singapore Airlines. Funny how people can have different experiences. I was looking forward to Singapore Air. But for us it didn't live up to the hype. Hard bed. Staff not overly friendly. Food just ok.
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Год назад
This sounds pretty accurate. TK is pretty famous for often rude staff (it's part of the culture) and bad operational reliability. The new airport also has had tons of problems that are no secret. But better than the Berlin airport I guess that it actually opened.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I kinda wish I didn't enjoy the old Istanbul airport so much 😂... great location, great lounge... Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@johniii8147
@johniii8147 Год назад
@@tfft I've never flown through either airport. There were always an airline for me to avoid with better options.Like i said their reputation is nothing new.
@csthsn8990
@csthsn8990 Год назад
Most people working in customer service are generally rude in Turkey, not only with Turkish airlines.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@undisgraziato
@undisgraziato Год назад
I live in the desert now and our chicken is nice and moist. Funny I made lemon chicken with capers tonight, my wife almost licked the dish! 😂
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@tapaarn5863
@tapaarn5863 Год назад
I've flown with them on 6 occasions, and Surly, Unfriendly crew and ground staff appear par for the course
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
It really makes me wonder about all of the opinions I’ve watched and read over the past couple years leading up to these flights giving me a good impression to look forward to. Probably all sponsored content! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@chaitanyachoudhary1729
@chaitanyachoudhary1729 Год назад
Omg, finally somebody said it. After hearing all the praise on youtube I booked 2 7 hour long flights with them and it was an absolute disappointment.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@alexanderh.5612
@alexanderh.5612 Год назад
I avoid them like hell... Happy everytime to pay a premium on most other Star Alliance airliners to escape TK... I liked their "Gold" lounge at the old airport, this was a cozy spot with premium food... The Gold lounge at the new IST airport is just huge but lacks any style, just a complete let down.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Agree the new lounges are big for the sake of being big and a bit soulless. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ShivoyPandita
@ShivoyPandita Год назад
The desserts had all the moisture that should have been in the chicken 🤣🤣
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Dripping! 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ZRHTrainspotter
@ZRHTrainspotter Год назад
What? Do you seriously expect a vietnamese speaking crew on a TURKISH airline?
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I expect one member of crew to speak the language of the country they are flying to, of course, yes. That's a pretty standard thing that I see on near every flight.
@alialmasri6017
@alialmasri6017 2 месяца назад
BELLOW AVERAGE BUSINESS CLASS
@tfft
@tfft 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@alisharampaul4639
@alisharampaul4639 Год назад
The chicken must have been horrible . I have always wanted to try Turkish Airlines but now I am thinking about it.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
TK was one of the first airlines to switch to cold boxed meals exclusively during COVID and while that has ended it seems they are holding on to a few of those service cuts unfortunately. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@malpalmer3269
@malpalmer3269 11 месяцев назад
Bad seat configuration for business class - especially if it’s full
@tfft
@tfft 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching 🩴
@jmcontent1342
@jmcontent1342 Год назад
Wow. Thank you for being honest. Sorry about your experience.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I’ll survive! 😂 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@dexon777
@dexon777 Год назад
Ataturk Airport Turkish lounge was far superior. This one is all over the place and you are one unlucky dude. You dealt with rude stuff.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ericthire9106
@ericthire9106 Год назад
quand vous faites des vidéos mettez pas 6 mois a les poster j ai pris turkish en classe affaire y a 2 jours c est terminé les plateaux repas recouvert de plastique tout comme le personnel de bord ne porte plus de masque
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
I post as quickly as I can and always make clear when the video was filmed in the graphics. This is my last flight video from then. Now all content is from August or newer. As I stated in the video, my flights took place after Turkish had already announced that they were back to full service standards, so there is no reason for there to be a difference between your flight and mine. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@shaitahir4021
@shaitahir4021 Год назад
your views are valid and same as mine. customer service in the lounge is bad. food is meh. it was cheap and i needed a bed. thats all TK is to me.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Yah for the price I paid I’d do it again for sure, but can’t compete with many others. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@oblongmusic3389
@oblongmusic3389 Год назад
I’ve been considering TK for a long haul trip I’ll be making soon .. but you’re not the first to mention the bad staff and crew attitudes .. and I’ll be at the back of the planes , so f*** knows what treatment passengers get there? Thanks again for your genuine feedback on another giant of travel and tourism.. once again passengers get treated as a necessary nuisance.. sometimes I think these workers can forget who is actually paying their salaries..!! 🙏
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
This is just from my anecdotal experiences, but my previous flight with TK was in economy which was fantastic. I get the feeling that they're making bank on a good economy and mediocre business class. I'll be in their economy again in a couple weeks so we shall see! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@gudbjorgaudunsdottir7701
@gudbjorgaudunsdottir7701 Год назад
I had two flight with them in economy.Copenhagen -Istanbul- Stockholm.Both of their flights were great and both crew fantastic.I loved Istanbul airport.But as I said I was flying economy and can’t wait to fly them in the future
@gtrr3246
@gtrr3246 Год назад
Haha. Thanks for your honest review. I always thought Turkish airline was an over hype from most travelers that been on. Glad i didn’t transfer my points to Turkish LoL
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@nininuti
@nininuti Год назад
Best airline in Europe, by far.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Oh I’d have to disagree with that one lol. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Almadani94
@Almadani94 Год назад
Sometimes it feels like you're being critical just for the sake of being critical. Since the brand of your product is "honest unsponsored reviews" it feels like you were trying to be critical to emphasise that brand. I understand this is not a typical example of your products. But some of the complaints in this video were exaggerated. Other felt like they were just made up.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Do you suggest that I put a (fake) positive spin on being told off by staff? Not having decent food in what was at one point one of the best business class lounges? Having in flight food that was presented really sloppily and generally really below expectation? Having your flight cancelled, rescheduled a day later (at my expense) and then delayed 4+ hours further? Or should I just ignore all of the negative bits? My 100+ very positive reviews on the channel speak to the fact that I don’t make critical views just to ‘emphasize my brand’. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@Nowansbeibe
@Nowansbeibe Год назад
@almadani. Either youre turkish ( you should know your customer service are bad ) It seems you never experience paying thousands of dollar from your pay checks and in return you got shitt. Please do first and maybe you understand what @theflipfloptraveler means in his video
@pacmanc8103
@pacmanc8103 Год назад
@@Nowansbeibe Wow. It appears as though I’ve waded into a brawl between a content developer and a viewer. And the content developer has someone riding shotgun to boot! I’m flying TK from Seattle to Istanbul in 2 days but on a 787. I shouldn’t think aircraft type should impact staff surliness in air, nor the food quality. With respect to be overly critical, I’d say that the frustration the poster experienced before boarding that aircraft influenced the review. Without a doubt. Oh - and to be clear, I’m flying refundable J (I think TK calls it flexible-J).
@Nowansbeibe
@Nowansbeibe Год назад
@@pacmanc8103 the point iss???
@pacmanc8103
@pacmanc8103 Год назад
@@Nowansbeibe Try reading the thread again - if you still don’t understand, I can’t help you.
@edward88881
@edward88881 Год назад
Those seats are really outdated. The Turkish 787s have a better, newer, seat but it sure is a slow rollout across the rest of the livery. I've never been impressed with food on Turkish. Those guys in chef's hats, I think, are just galley attendants with a unique uniform.
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@StanislawZ
@StanislawZ Год назад
Hi there. I'm so happy that someone revealed the truth about this terrible airline, and terrible new airport. We did have horrible experience on JFK Istanbul flights, and my cash money was pick pocketed at Istanbul's new airport. Horrible, and profoundly awful experience. When we took off from IST, insteads of offering drinks and cocktails they were spreading the bed mattresses in business class, cause they wanted to work less. The.y were hiding from us most of my flights in business class and tried to avoid requests, or orders. Lazy and badly trained crews. Istabul airport business class is OK, but nobody speaks English, and they are not helpful at all. They have their slogan - FLY DIFFERENT - yes, if you want to witness horrible service and total mediocraty
@tfft
@tfft Год назад
Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
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