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Turn your Outdated Computer into a Monitor! - Luna Display 

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Комментарии : 2 тыс.   
@ruinfox4108
@ruinfox4108 3 года назад
i really appreciate you guys are now using that youtube feature to split the timeline into helpful segments on more videos
@jfkonlsd1364
@jfkonlsd1364 3 года назад
adds to a level of professionalism LTT brings to the table
@oxnvat
@oxnvat 3 года назад
Finally a way to skip the sponsor
@Brucefulness
@Brucefulness 3 года назад
I second this. I know it's a lot of extra work but it really goes a long way and is really appreciated
@anudeepk7579
@anudeepk7579 3 года назад
If only they used this on the wan show
@sharonpaulson31
@sharonpaulson31 3 года назад
Helps to skip the ads
@rebel1988us
@rebel1988us 3 года назад
"My time has come to be validated" -me who hasn't thrown away or sold a computer in at least 15 years.
@martinbernath
@martinbernath 3 года назад
Same here, i just keep them in a different room. I just revived my old sempron 3300+ system last week to see if it still lived after having it for over 20 years. Its honestly impressive how long can pc hardware last, even if it sat for majority of its life.
@TheDragonfriday
@TheDragonfriday 3 года назад
3 years old gaming laptop, still cost me a fortune
@lolifreak4063
@lolifreak4063 3 года назад
My computer is 15 years old... My laptop is 10 years old...
@stevekovacksr.937
@stevekovacksr.937 3 года назад
I still have my first PC, a Compuadd 286/16, and like others that have responded, I give them away once refurbished.
@TruenorthmtGod
@TruenorthmtGod 3 года назад
I have a 2010 Mac Pro 5.1
@aarshpatel2000
@aarshpatel2000 3 года назад
“Breathe life into your old computer” uses a 2-3 year old 1000 dollar Mac LOL
@datachu
@datachu 3 года назад
Ikr lol Haven't checked but pretty sure my old MacBook Pro will be way too old for this, and it was the highest speced model back in the day and still works fine. I even turn it on on occasion when I need to get an old file off of Logic Pro X or Final Cut. (Switched the the Windows Adobe suite since then)
@smugler1
@smugler1 3 года назад
to be fair, the title I think is more about the windows version when it is released. till then, you're right lol
@aarshpatel2000
@aarshpatel2000 3 года назад
@@datachu to be fair my old razer blade was similar pricing to the MacBooks from 4 years ago and it’s actually still chugging along. I think once you buy a laptop over a thousand dollars the stereotype of cheap windows laptops drops off a cliff. Even less nowadays with the ryzen laptops at 600-700.
@aarshpatel2000
@aarshpatel2000 3 года назад
@@smugler1 true, I have it running on a 10 year old Sony vaio, although the 1366x768 resolution isn’t that good with my 2 4K monitors, latency is nice.
@datachu
@datachu 3 года назад
@@smugler1 Why is the separate hardware dongle needed for the Windows version anyway tho? Like, what does it do? And why can't they just update the firmware of whatever the fuck you just paid $100+ for? No seriously, what snake oil is ACTUALLY INSIDE THE DONGLE? I can't find a single photo or video of the inside, no one has asked this question and there's no FAQ question on their site about it whatsoever. I mean look at this video closer. In wired mode the cable goes directly between the two PCs, not through some port on the dongle? And how come Apple can achieve half the latency without any dongles? Why is the claimed latency on their website not even remotely accurate and the actual latency LTT measured around the same as Miracast (which also supports touch)? Does this not all smell a little fishy in the air? Cause I'm smelling a scam right now... And it's a real strong stench too
@mentalrere1958
@mentalrere1958 3 года назад
The original title was “DON’T Junk your Outdated Computer!”
@CivMicheals
@CivMicheals 3 года назад
Fax i didnt watch it then
@Light--Gamer
@Light--Gamer 3 года назад
linus changes his title at least 5 times a day ive seen his recent vids change title so often
@CivMicheals
@CivMicheals 3 года назад
@@alexrevna7959 called a youtube channel not a company
@Felixprogram
@Felixprogram 3 года назад
@@alexrevna7959 LTT is just one channel of their company and they can decide video titles. They just use those clickbait titles in the beginning so it shows up that way in the notifications of subscribed people, then, after some time, they change back to the "real" title.
@nit-Inundate
@nit-Inundate 3 года назад
@@Felixprogram Its actually to stay afloat on the algorithm
@muditrajput5535
@muditrajput5535 3 года назад
"Fix your old and slow computer" "In this case Macbook air" Typical Linux.
@Interknetz
@Interknetz 3 года назад
MacOS isn't Linux though.
@sobhaks7231
@sobhaks7231 3 года назад
Autocorrect?
@jaykrishnak3268
@jaykrishnak3268 3 года назад
Every MacBook air except for the M1 powered ones are crap performance wise so he ain't wrong.
@BotanistOnDuna
@BotanistOnDuna 3 года назад
how is macbook air 2018 slow.
@user-lz5vh9bb5w
@user-lz5vh9bb5w 3 года назад
Well it is kinda shit compared to what it cost when it came out (as per usual with all Apple products).
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 3 года назад
RIP the people who junked their computers before seeing this
@someonehere4380
@someonehere4380 3 года назад
use linux
@DirenDeez
@DirenDeez 3 года назад
RIP
@AYgameZ
@AYgameZ 3 года назад
LOL
@Subhrajyoti
@Subhrajyoti 3 года назад
Rest in pizza 🍕
@FLTech
@FLTech 3 года назад
F
@TheJohnRowley
@TheJohnRowley 3 года назад
That's my illustration at 6:40 😁 and now over 800k people have seen it - Thanks Linus!
@Xom1bc
@Xom1bc 3 года назад
Sick
@Guill0rtiz
@Guill0rtiz 2 года назад
You've been paid in E X P O S U R E have you eaten yet?
@txm100
@txm100 2 года назад
It's great man!
@ayuchanayuko
@ayuchanayuko 3 года назад
ipad: Duet Display Windows: Mouse Without Borders, Project To This PC, or SpaceDesk. You can na also buy Elgato clones. Android: SpaceDesk
@403errorskydaddynotfound3
@403errorskydaddynotfound3 3 года назад
Yeah I just commented, what about duet display lol.
@datachu
@datachu 3 года назад
I used Duet Display back in the day myself, it was pretty good for the time but these days I use SpaceDesk and Parsec. Both have great performance and consistency, and pretty low latency. LTT themselves did a video on using Parsec for video editing! I feel sorry for anyone who actually bought into this *obvious* Luna display scam.
@miriripunchie
@miriripunchie 3 года назад
For arting though, duet display is pain The lag is almost unbearable....
@rapiddu6482
@rapiddu6482 3 года назад
For Android Superdisplay is awesome app for anyone who want to use their stylus as almost native pen input in windows. It literally tricks the windows into thinking into having pen input inbuilt to the display itself. Which makes pen input and gestures in windows almost native experience
@coldhelios
@coldhelios 3 года назад
I've still got a 2009 27inch iMac that I use as a second display. the heaviest monitor ever but still works really well.
@richarddcrossley
@richarddcrossley 3 года назад
@@TonyCarragan-oc9nq it’s called target display mode. You need to use DisplayPort to Mini DisplayPort. Turn Mac on and press command and f2 on apple keyboard
@snepNL
@snepNL 3 года назад
Its not like it matters how heavy your monitor is.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 3 года назад
You obviously haven't seen my first monitor from the 1990s. The box recommended a two man lift for it.
@vuhdoo7486
@vuhdoo7486 3 года назад
@@richarddcrossley I wished that this would work with my old imac, which still has snow leopard on it. My Biggest problem is that the onboard graphic chip got burned, while being in sleeping mode. The official repair would have costed around 600€+. As a result i can't really boot into the OS and display anything. The only solution i can think of is to take it apart and connect a display control unit to it.
@hy007
@hy007 3 года назад
@@vuhdoo7486 ah Same problem
@Vociferous
@Vociferous 3 года назад
You know when Linus says something he’s not capping, I’d better get my vintage windows 90 computer out of the trash.
@staz3014
@staz3014 3 года назад
Windows 90? Don't you mean 95 or 98 right?
@AliceC993
@AliceC993 3 года назад
@@staz3014 Fuck Windows 9x All my homies run Windows 3.0
@CheapBastard1988
@CheapBastard1988 3 года назад
Hey a 486 is becoming more expensive every day. Nostalgia's a bitch.
@Mark13376
@Mark13376 3 года назад
I've been using Luna Display since the beginning to use my iPad as a client monitor or for the stylists to work off of on set, and it's freaking AMAZING. Super stable for me, and the range is only limited by your network. Works fantastic on location. Do recommend, have 4 of their adapters.
@amshermansen
@amshermansen 3 года назад
"Turn your Outdated Computer into a Montior!" Ah yes. Monsieur Montior - We've been expecting you.
@SinanAkkoyun
@SinanAkkoyun 3 года назад
Good thing it has USB C for old hardware
@SinanAkkoyun
@SinanAkkoyun 3 года назад
@@tim3172 type in "USB C female"
@nekotom2000
@nekotom2000 3 года назад
@@SinanAkkoyun hes being sarcastic lmao
@Denial06
@Denial06 3 года назад
this is honestly really cool because as you said it combats the anti consumerist nature of companies nowadays. it’s so exhausting to see more and more features getting taken away from us and us having to accept it so the ability to fight back is great
@abhimaanmayadam5713
@abhimaanmayadam5713 3 года назад
There is an entire software implementation called spacedesk. No dongle needed
@DarkStar851
@DarkStar851 3 года назад
I'd love to see a comparison with Parsec on Mac/Windows, with their "lower latency" and "suitable for gaming" claims it should be a solid competitor to this product.
@jb4608s
@jb4608s 3 года назад
"Turn your Outdated Computer into a Montior!". What's a Montior?
@kevinhaakede
@kevinhaakede 3 года назад
Hahahaha also saw it
@ingmar89
@ingmar89 3 года назад
I was asking myself the same thing.
@electronics-girl
@electronics-girl 3 года назад
A montior is something which monties, of course.
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 3 года назад
@@electronics-girl What, the full monties
@maxpoweroverdrive
@maxpoweroverdrive 3 года назад
A monitor is a student in school belonging to a class who is in direct command of that's class teacher.
@bluephreakr
@bluephreakr 3 года назад
For people who want to use their second machine _but not_ another set of peripherals, and if most of your work is on your server machine, the *free* WiFi option is Barrier. Based on older builds of Synergy, after a little configuration so that all hostnames recognize each other, you can have a KVM that lets you use the same hardware, _everywhere_ so long all devices are on the same network.
@dumpsterdawg
@dumpsterdawg 3 года назад
Linus: "Apple makes me so angry sometimes" Apple: "Linus makes us so angry all the time"
@jybler007
@jybler007 3 года назад
Apple:sucks
@martinbernath
@martinbernath 3 года назад
Apple makes linus angry so linus can make us all angry about apple even though most of us have nothing to do with the brand
@matekovacs2696
@matekovacs2696 3 года назад
They don't give a hot damn. A trillion dollars just... blinds you.
@info-load7952
@info-load7952 3 года назад
@@matekovacs2696 they have trillion dollars by making you buy different devices running different OS and Apps with same processor, all designed and artificially limited by same company. If MacBook gets touchscreen, it eats into their Tablet sales and if iPad gets desktop features, then it eats into their laptop sales.
@____________________________.x
@____________________________.x 3 года назад
I like that Linus is promoting the importance of recycling. I love that he repeatedly calls out Apple and their abusive attempts to crush other people’s efforts to recycle/reuse Apple products.
@coffeecuprobot2802
@coffeecuprobot2802 3 года назад
I’ve never thought about using astropad to resurrect an old iMac as a display. You can pick up some older model for super cheap that still have a banging screen which is ideal for layout work with indesign and such. Thanks Linus and team.
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 3 года назад
I'm expecting a million comments about Linux.
@donaldwindland
@donaldwindland 3 года назад
One for each distro
@desmond-hawkins
@desmond-hawkins 3 года назад
@ik ur cool There's no need to post your spammy inspirational video here. By the way, there is no Allah. Or any other magical beings, grow up. No Santa either, sorry.
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn 3 года назад
So you have a dongle, that is not really needed, cause everything is in software. And its using pretty much a technology that Linux had since introduction of x11 in 1987. And it costs a lot. Am I missing something?
@bobamu
@bobamu 3 года назад
It's for Apple so it's obligated to be expensive.
@Virginiafox21
@Virginiafox21 3 года назад
No, as far as I know you're not missing anything. You can download the app for free from astropad's website and use an ipad as a secondary display with no dongle. It supports both mac and pc, and works like a graphics tablet with an apple pencil. I've been using it for a while. I don't really know what the dongle is for, since apparently there is still a lot of latency as Linus shows.
@seshpenguin
@seshpenguin 3 года назад
To be fair, x11 over the network is really slow and not designed for modern GTK/Qt apps (and fundementally works a lot differently than this, since its rendering using the remote GPU and just streaming video). Wayland doesnt support it at all, but you can probably achieve something similar using PipeWire
@DoctorWhom
@DoctorWhom 3 года назад
@@Virginiafox21 The dedicated dongle makes sense if you want to take the laptop/tablet combo and use it elsewhere. Its the sort of niche product that makes sense in its niche, but then the marketers try and sell it as a solution to all problems.
@Virginiafox21
@Virginiafox21 3 года назад
Kyle K yeah, I guess if you really want to be wireless. But the app works plugged in too. The only one I saw was having an iPad as the only display for a Mac mini, which seems like it could be cool.
@Microplastic_Therapy
@Microplastic_Therapy 3 года назад
Yes, your outdated iMac turns into a $10000 wireless display Such upgrade
@Topside08
@Topside08 3 года назад
as opposed to throwing it in the trash yes
@steveno666
@steveno666 3 года назад
I've been using the Luna Display Adapter for 2 yrs on a 2019 iMac as a second display! Works great!
@Graphics_Card
@Graphics_Card 3 года назад
You know what Linus isn’t lying about? How almost everyone has an outdated computer.
@windowsxpprofessional
@windowsxpprofessional 3 года назад
I have 13 year old desktop 🤣
@douglasrichardson1589
@douglasrichardson1589 3 года назад
Speak for yourself
@UndeadFreak
@UndeadFreak 3 года назад
@@douglasrichardson1589 Douglas Most Definitely has it like that!! believe dat!!!
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 3 года назад
i have an i3 4160/8gb ddr3 desktop in my parents attic, but my main is a laptop with 8th gen i7, not horribly far out. might be a system worth upgrading to in a couple years but right now im not seeing anything compelling
@kumarparshotam662
@kumarparshotam662 3 года назад
10 years old pc which was outdated when built.
@LeBeautiful
@LeBeautiful 3 года назад
It’s all fun and games until you see a video of a user using Windows 95 to run Valorant and Crysis.
@eagle7015
@eagle7015 3 года назад
Valorant and crysis are 2 very different games
@sivansharma5027
@sivansharma5027 3 года назад
Technically still fun and games :P well maybe not so much fun...
@jonmcentire
@jonmcentire 3 года назад
@great day What is this "uff" word they say I shouldn't say to my parents? Is it like a slur for old people? I don't care about any of the other nonsense, just "uff".
@surprisedpotato
@surprisedpotato 3 года назад
Honestly old iMac displays, especially the 1080p displays and even the pre-retina ones, are still totally usable, good looking displays!
@cliffordcoriglianojr4803
@cliffordcoriglianojr4803 3 года назад
I’ve been using target display mode for my old 2012 iMac as a second display for my 2019 iMac I love it.
@isithatennakoon4284
@isithatennakoon4284 3 года назад
Ah so this is the video they filmed before WWDC
@wspak2628
@wspak2628 3 года назад
Spacedesk: i want to introduce myself as free software
@NekoPavel
@NekoPavel 3 года назад
This was literally all I was thinking about this whole video
@ngwoo
@ngwoo 3 года назад
Yup. My only complaint with spacedesk is that it doesn't support gpu acceleration so you'll need a beefy CPU if you want to do more than browse the web while using it.
@Catsrules1
@Catsrules1 3 года назад
Neat Never heard of it before but I could have some uses for it. How is the lag? Like could you watch a movie or play a game from the secondary device?
@aabegrasheed7209
@aabegrasheed7209 3 года назад
@@Catsrules1 For me its pretty much perfect! I used to run it on a Tab S6 on wifi and it really felt smooth without any drops (my wifi is real stable), you can adjust the framerate from 30 to 60fps, or wired to wireless, colour depth, image quality over performance and much more. It's the easier alternative that supports touch as well! Videos played on the tablet even synced with the audio just fine. If you're going that way wired is recommended but wifi is also usable! Spacedesk is lit
@RamiKattan
@RamiKattan 3 года назад
@@ngwoo i use the spacedesk monitor (my old laptopl to watch videos from RU-vid and Plex while browsing on the main monitor, works great
@21dazzer
@21dazzer 3 года назад
One of the Macs I’m still using daily is 2008 vintage, left on 24 hrs a day and still working as if it just came out of the box for the first time.
@fullfunk
@fullfunk 3 года назад
pleb 2008 isnt vintage ............ ihave a imac 2006 right next to me
@burgersnchips
@burgersnchips 3 года назад
For Windows, you could plug in a dummy vga or hdmi to enable the output, then use Parsec or Teamviewer to share it to the second machine.
@Khaja_966
@Khaja_966 3 года назад
Linus: use Luna for old pc Me: use Linux!
@shapshooter7769
@shapshooter7769 3 года назад
Apple is typically pita on Mac
@hubertnnn
@hubertnnn 3 года назад
@@shapshooter7769 McWrap, BigBurrito or Fillet-O-Taco?
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 3 года назад
"don't junk your old computer" thumbnail: linus holding up a usb me: linux! also me:......there's no way he's referring to linux
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
He did that already.
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 3 года назад
@@HappyBeezerStudios i know :p
@jedstefanowicz2051
@jedstefanowicz2051 3 года назад
I’ve used the Genki Shadowcast to do this making my MacBook another display for my PC. The intention is to use it as a “capture card” for the Nintendo Switch but works for most HDMI devices and it only costs $40. Not a perfect solution but for $40, if you’re looking to do this without spending over $100 it’s a good option. I know LTT doesn’t normally cover Kickstarters but it’s worked well for me
@LamarMK
@LamarMK 3 года назад
Nice! Luna Display is Amazing. I did a series of videos covering this and people really seem to love it. 👍💪
@YannickTG
@YannickTG 3 года назад
"and get this" youtube: this is the perfect time for a... popup ad
@tarun6101
@tarun6101 3 года назад
Get premium
@reapthewhirlwind6915
@reapthewhirlwind6915 3 года назад
ha.. you dont have.. premium.. haha... hahahahaha
@arram3266
@arram3266 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this video, I have an old Macbook and I was able to put it to good use after this
@blobbyhatchner4190
@blobbyhatchner4190 3 года назад
@AR Ram same
@blkdog40
@blkdog40 3 года назад
I expected this video was going to talk about donating an old PC to charity or reusing it for a server (both worthy causes), ended up exceeding expectations! Well done LTT!
@nilleftw
@nilleftw 3 года назад
I JUST found out about Duet. Now I use my iPad as a third monitor for my Windows PC. It's really nice to have for Spotify and other stuff that doesn't require a big screen.
@eams1234
@eams1234 3 года назад
Meanwhile, Linux users using a complete OS and apps installed on their 4gb USBs be like
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
Hah, my live stick can boot Linux and Windows, depending on what I need.
@silverturtle6511
@silverturtle6511 3 года назад
@@HappyBeezerStudios Ha... Well mine has 50GB of different isos on it ("ventoy" is a nice piece of software for this)... Also sorry for my weird flex.
@rayyanshaikh5591
@rayyanshaikh5591 3 года назад
And be able to load the entire operating system on RAM and using it from there
@jspantonio8807
@jspantonio8807 3 года назад
We couldn't care less
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 3 года назад
@@silverturtle6511 Ventoy didn't work on my Mid-2010 MacBook Pro, but the LMDE iso loaded directly to the USB stick did.
@SinanAkkoyun
@SinanAkkoyun 3 года назад
We all know this would lose half the views when the title would be "mac" instead of computer
@Pedroebut
@Pedroebut 3 года назад
Truee. To be fair it did state it is come for windows and is already available for pre order.
@maddmugsy
@maddmugsy 3 года назад
@@Pedroebut But still requires an iPad and not an Android device.
@rawdez_
@rawdez_ 3 года назад
didn't watch it further and put a thumb down when that became apparent though, also computers in my opinion don't have a screen at all, computers use external monitors. using word 'computers' for laptops is a #lienus tactics. can't care less about apple's walled garden crap, the only thing its actually good for if you aren't a half-brain-dead hipster - Louis Rossmann to repair it or rant about it.
@jstan5802
@jstan5802 3 года назад
What is a computer? /s
@maddmugsy
@maddmugsy 3 года назад
@@jstan5802 I'll do you one better... Why is a computer?
@olafb6445
@olafb6445 3 года назад
I use my Xbox with my 2009 27” iMac and it works amazing, the display is still stunnin’
@mrt5393
@mrt5393 3 года назад
I think the reason for not allowing touch during sidecar is that the tablet can be used of other functions and changing menu settings, like side card itself, while not transmitting “ghost” touch to the actual computer
@liamsz
@liamsz 7 месяцев назад
real reason why is because macOS was not developed for touch input, if you look at iPadOS's mouse implementation, it emulates a finger, something that isn't as easily done for fingers emulating cursors. it lets you use a stylus just fine, because that is a precise input, unlike a finger
@DarkOracleOfDeath
@DarkOracleOfDeath 3 года назад
Good thing they removed that really bad for environment MUST-HAVE accessory for your phone from the box. Thank you for being so environmentally friendly Apple.
@youjustlostthegame2028
@youjustlostthegame2028 3 года назад
I like the little "how long until apple issues a c&d"
@captaincj1085
@captaincj1085 3 года назад
as someone who sells all in ones currently, a lot of HPs all in ones do support turning it into a monitor, and its just a regular hdmi input and an input change.
@alanstringer.
@alanstringer. 3 года назад
I myself use an old 2010 27" HP AIO running Ubuntu as a monitor. Moonlight desktop streaming is top-notch, I never have any lag or slowdown as it is a wired connection to my main PC. I have USB extenders wired anywhere I might sit to access my main computer, so I can get direct input instead of pushing it through the network. I don't think I've sat near my actual rig in years.
@ScottGrammer
@ScottGrammer 3 года назад
Saturday: Linus shows how Luna bypasses Apple limitations. Sunday: Apple buys Luna, and Apple's lawyers confiscate the owner's children. Monday: Luna no longer exists.
@MightyElemental
@MightyElemental 3 года назад
5:28 - only took five and a half minutes for me to realize what this is actually for. idk if that's the video's fault or my own, or even a combination.
@rodryguezzz
@rodryguezzz 3 года назад
It looks like they forgot to include an intro where linus explains what that thing does. Probably an editing mistake.
@coldteeth24
@coldteeth24 3 года назад
Video's fault. Horrible script.
@oonaeggset5551
@oonaeggset5551 Год назад
You have the knew iMac now. Waiting for that video!
@robindp
@robindp 3 года назад
Interesting video - thanks for letting us know about Luna. I purchased iDisplay for my iPad (1st Generation) back in 2011 (99 cents!) - it allows your iPad to act as a second (or third, or fourth) monitor. I now use TeamViewer, which is free when trying to control PCs on your home network (I control my Windows and Linux computers...I don't have any Macintosh computers)...doesn't have the ability to serve as a secondary display, but great when you need to connect into a PC that doesn't allow connection to it via RDP (example: Linux machines without xRDP installed or Windows Home).
@LiterallyPolio
@LiterallyPolio 3 года назад
I can't believe Linus is redpilled now
@satin227
@satin227 3 года назад
reporter: what inspired you to include free software with your OS but limit its functionality to specific hardware? Apple: Hello, I like money.
@TimothyFish
@TimothyFish 3 года назад
I use HDMI capture cards to use computers as displays. It isn't without latency, but it works for Windows and Mac. You can push it a little farther using NDI KVM capability, but that isn't available on Mac (I don't know if NDI 5 is going to change that or not).
@shock9616
@shock9616 3 года назад
I have a Luna Display dongle. It works pretty well some of the time, but my wifi isn't really fast enough for it to work to it's fullest potential. I am seriously considering buying an ethernet cable/ethernet-thunderbolt adapter so that I can have a more stable connection, because using my 2010 iMac as a second display for my much newer MacBook Pro is really quite nice when it does work well.
@dekipantelija
@dekipantelija 3 года назад
The macadress dude could've presented that one, would've been a good PR
@rawdez_
@rawdez_ 3 года назад
better yet that should be on a mac address crap channel
@steveman1982
@steveman1982 3 года назад
@@rawdez_ This!
@rehmanarshad1848
@rehmanarshad1848 3 года назад
There is a windows version of Luna Display coming soon, and I think the main point was to hopefully convince people to stop throwing away perfectly useable hardware for shiny new hardware that creates more unnecessary E-waste. EDIT: Since some people still don't get why Linus hosted this. Because there exists a windows version of Luna display Linus was interested enough to host this product. It's as simple as that. Now the macadress guy previously did a video on a jerry rigged together touch screen macbook, the product can be used for both windows and Mac OS laptops but windows laptop already come with touch screens pre-installed so Linus would just end up roasting apple over that, and the idea isn't all that interesting. Instead he wanted an Apple users perspective on why they don't want a touch screen macbook. Due to changing their productivity flow or other reasons as to why they don't like 2 in 1 laptops. And why they'd rather have a Mac and an iPad separately.
@dekipantelija
@dekipantelija 3 года назад
@@rehmanarshad1848 100% agree. The product was the connector, not the macs. But since the Mac was a good example, the mac guy was a good fit
@rawdez_
@rawdez_ 3 года назад
@@rehmanarshad1848 >a windows version of Luna Display AFAIK still requires iPad, so still is a crap. though Idc enough about Apple-oriented crap to check. if any company's main focus is to make stuff for isheep its basically means that stuff is automatically overpriced and stupid in a way
@christianponopp8756
@christianponopp8756 3 года назад
You can use every tablet/mobile phone with an app as secondary screen very easily... even the touch functions!! only needed thing is that both maschine must be in the same LAN/WLAN
@MandicReally
@MandicReally 3 года назад
I've been using the BETA of AstroPad Blue on my PC with my iPad for a few weeks and I'm loving it. Is the latency perfect? Now but I've been happily using it over wifi without issue for drawing / masking in PhotoShop without an expensive drawing tablet.
@DylanDurdle
@DylanDurdle 3 года назад
Sounds great, will be looking into to revitalize some old macs.
@elicook8680
@elicook8680 3 года назад
This was made obsolete at WWDC with the new continuity.
@RatchetLive
@RatchetLive 3 года назад
Bad thing is only M1 devices support that feature... sadly most new Monterey features are blocked for Intel Macs :(
@utubekullanicisi
@utubekullanicisi 3 года назад
You mean Continuity or AirPlay to Mac?
@Fections_Burner
@Fections_Burner 3 года назад
@@RatchetLive incorrect
@johnmackay13
@johnmackay13 3 года назад
AirPlay to Mac is supported with any computer with a T2 or later.
@seshpenguin
@seshpenguin 3 года назад
@@RatchetLive Intel macs support that feature aswell
@longtajr.76
@longtajr.76 3 года назад
are we just going to ignore how pricey LTT underwear is
@dscarmo
@dscarmo 3 года назад
Like apple products
@bullymaguire6388
@bullymaguire6388 3 года назад
@@dscarmo I dunno man, the M1 MacBooks prices are really compelling for what they offer.
@SpidermanandJeny
@SpidermanandJeny 3 года назад
Yep. I would never buy it.
@HistoryBluff137
@HistoryBluff137 Год назад
I used Luna Display with my 2018 Mac Mini and base model iPad for about a year as my mobile desktop. Really nice but I ended up using Splashtop after that for my uses. After 2 years of this, I sold everything for an M1 MacBook Air.
@Xenodine81
@Xenodine81 3 года назад
I always appreciated the dell 9030 aio for this reason. External display input over HDMI, and can have the os backgrounded for other (boinc) uses as well. Wish vendors still did that....
@AmericaDividedOfficial
@AmericaDividedOfficial 3 года назад
I kinda already did, sorry Linus...
@81wsk45
@81wsk45 3 года назад
Hello This is going to be a checkmark moment
@birisi7840
@birisi7840 3 года назад
Why?
@DirenDeez
@DirenDeez 3 года назад
No you didn't your bedrock
@Juan_Duran
@Juan_Duran 3 года назад
Whats up checkmark
@akkesm
@akkesm 3 года назад
should have installed bedrock linux smh (/s don't do that if you've new to linux, get ubuntu, fedora or opensuse)
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays 3 года назад
...So A 10 minute ad for a display dongle.
@Catsrules1
@Catsrules1 3 года назад
I am not even sure why the dongle is needed, everything it done by software? And someone mentioned there is software called Space desk that basically does this already for free.
@AmaxterPlays
@AmaxterPlays 3 года назад
Big Props to Luna for resisting Apple’s Sherlocking of them and doubling down on their specialized advantages! Seems like a really thought-out product doing a challenging thing.
@marogns
@marogns 3 года назад
"Take an old or slow computer" "in this case a *m a c b o o k a i r* "
@LaskyLabs
@LaskyLabs 3 года назад
I smiled when you started talking right to repair. Keep on pushing and we'll be there soon.
@lost-prototype
@lost-prototype 3 года назад
Linus! You need to start advocating for Linux support with these kinds of things. Please, don't be complicit with the desktop extinction. Help bring what might be our only refuge into common acceptance. Many people put up with awful issues from Windows and macOS. So excluding Linux is a non starter. Please, even if it's at the end, start commenting on how you'd like to see official Linux support for things.
@pdtheowl9292
@pdtheowl9292 3 года назад
Great free option I use, spacedesk, works with android, windows, and ios (not mac to my knowledge). Admittedly this is more specifically just a secondary display thing, but it's great, I use my thinkpad as a second display for my computer and it's so convenient, and even out and about i use my note 9 as a secondary display for my thinkpad , works great
@irfangani6451
@irfangani6451 3 года назад
I've once had a PC long time ago but because of situation and uses its not used anymore, and me and my family prefers laptop instead. One day, early class of my college, I felt overwhelmed with all the things I need to open at once to do some work. Then I realize my old 2006 LG monitor from my PC is still stored somewhere. So I found it, bought VGA to HDMI adaptor, and voila, my assignment and classes are way more manageable.
@n1kmz
@n1kmz 3 года назад
I like how the same product is more expensive for Mac users.
@raptorswire7212
@raptorswire7212 3 года назад
dumber people tend to pay more
@t_y8274
@t_y8274 3 года назад
That first line is definitely getting clipped onto memes lol, linus dropping redpills
@theralf6454
@theralf6454 3 года назад
For real though I would take the red pill. Curiosity!
@shubhrode
@shubhrode 3 года назад
SuperDisplay also is an excellent option with multitouch support as well as stylus support! No dongles needed!
@anthonynguyen1345
@anthonynguyen1345 3 года назад
I CAN FINALLY TURN MY MAC INTO A PC MONITOR, THANK YOU LINUS
@theigpugamer
@theigpugamer 3 года назад
The day I felt I should recycle my old core 2 duo and gt 210 This video came out what a timing
@someonehere4380
@someonehere4380 3 года назад
use linux try installing something like manjaro xfce or lubuntu if you wanna go rlly lightweight
@theigpugamer
@theigpugamer 3 года назад
@@someonehere4380 I wanted to try linux but my dad is so used to windows 7 that I haven't given it a shot yet
@bobamu
@bobamu 3 года назад
Upgrade to a core 2 quad, and a gt 220.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
@@theigpugamer Some distros are quite close to Windows in the general feel, going so far to even imitate how parts of the UI are organized. But for an old computer something light is never wrong. And yes, grab a quad core xeon from ebay, throw in a decent gpu and ssd and more ram, and you got something that is still usable today. But might not be worth it, all depends on how much you want to invest.
@theigpugamer
@theigpugamer 3 года назад
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah that's the point At that price I can easily get a used optiplex level pc with a 4th Gen i5 The only reason I still left it instead of selling it or recycling was that it has a motherboard made by intel and it's super reliable and great so I will need to see out for deals on xeons Put in a new ssd for the os and put another stick of DDR3 and with some Linux magic it should be usable for daily office work and general use
@milkyy4168
@milkyy4168 3 года назад
For 130 dollars, I’d rather just get a second display instead of repurposing an old Mac. They have decent resell value too, so unless the gadget’s 50 dollars or less, or it works on broken macs with functional displays, I don’t find this at all useful.
@darkraft100
@darkraft100 3 года назад
Exactly what I said
@roguenify
@roguenify 3 года назад
Except glossy display monitors are hard to find. iMacs are one of the few that still make quality, glossy monitors in a number of sizes.
@milkyy4168
@milkyy4168 3 года назад
@@roguenify I don’t think there’s much of a point having glossy displays, they just reflect sunlight and show how dirty they are much better. If a new mac came out, and had matte or glossy displays as an option, 9/10 would choose the matte display because it’s just better.
@roguenify
@roguenify 3 года назад
@@milkyy4168 Glossy displays offer more vibrant colors and picture quality, hence why TVs, tablets, and smartphones are glossy, not matte. In terms of picture/video quality, glossy wins. Sunlight reflection isn't a problem for me based on the lighting in my home, so I don't benefit from a matte display. Matte displays are beneficial for office workers, but less-so for at-home workers.
@TheFourthWinchester
@TheFourthWinchester 3 года назад
@@roguenify Bro how many decades old are your phones, TVs, laptops, PC monitor, etc?
@ngwoo
@ngwoo 3 года назад
If you want this same feature on Windows, there's Spacedesk. It's also free and doesn't require a weird dongle.
@SixSilverStones
@SixSilverStones 3 года назад
Very happy I held onto my old iMac
@offlinegiggles
@offlinegiggles 3 года назад
Would love a detailed review from your design/art team vs existing display tablets like Wacom.
@daniil2815
@daniil2815 3 года назад
Considering its latency this thing is almost unusable for an artist
@offlinegiggles
@offlinegiggles 3 года назад
@@daniil2815 Astropad's main market are artists though
@Dawn_Breaker
@Dawn_Breaker 3 года назад
Wait. Windows has a "Use other computer as a monitor" feature? How have I not heard of this??
@Andrew-se9be
@Andrew-se9be 3 года назад
It's been there for a while, but as Linus said it is kinda laggy. Works in a pinch but I wouldn't recommend regular use
@AngryApple
@AngryApple 3 года назад
Its sucks really bad, quality isnt good and its laggy
@Dawn_Breaker
@Dawn_Breaker 3 года назад
@@Andrew-se9be In a pinch can still make it useful. Anyone know what it's called for easier searching?
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
There are also 3rd party tools like onput director, mouse without borders or sharemouse that do the same.
@endurable_alex8379
@endurable_alex8379 3 года назад
@@mokubakaiba1751 do you use windows?
@Reevesi
@Reevesi 3 года назад
Wow, I still use an old Toshiba Satellite 2450-101 for capturing SD video from old VHS tapes via firewire. It's running Windows 98. It's never connected to the internet and has never, ever had a problem for all the years I've been using it (I use it daily and have never done updates). Older tech still has it's uses.
@kiotid869
@kiotid869 3 года назад
My brothers has a capture card for his laptop witch allows him to turn his laptop and monitor setup into a 2 laptop and monitor setup, with all screens working perfectly with each other, and even pass files between the computers with ease.
@manuelrumpal8381
@manuelrumpal8381 3 года назад
Who the heck is in charge of the video titles
@saidneder41
@saidneder41 3 года назад
RIP for the ones that thougth it was going to be linux mint xfce iso on that little pendrive
@tipoomaster
@tipoomaster 3 года назад
Would sure be nice if LTT did get Apple to bring Target Display mode back
@baoyiyang
@baoyiyang 3 года назад
from what I've read somewhere it takes 2 DP cable to be able to use iMac's 5K display and a lot of converting effort as it uses Apple's custom timing/connector etc. And apple doesn't want to offer a compromise of running 4K target display mode on their 5K monitor
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 3 года назад
just install linux on an old Mac pc and have everything up to date
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
Should be doable. Switching from Unix to Linux was the original purpose.
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 3 года назад
@@HappyBeezerStudios I have done it on the wifes old IMac 27 inch. Runs Elementary OS 6 (Beta) fine
@Enstrayed
@Enstrayed 3 года назад
Only thing is the Macs with the damned T2 chip.
@C4M-
@C4M- 3 года назад
A Mac pc!? I need one!
@BillyNoMates1974
@BillyNoMates1974 3 года назад
@@Enstrayed thats right. any Mac from about 2016 onwards could be a pain to install with Linux. not sure if it has been done though
@tsimmersjr
@tsimmersjr 3 года назад
Fans of the Apple Ecosystem: "Hooray! We now have an overly-complicated/-inefficient/-inconvenient solution to a problem which shouldn't exist in the first place!" Sheep gonna sheep.
@L2002
@L2002 3 года назад
you are the only one who said that
@Munkythree
@Munkythree 3 года назад
I'd love to see a video of this project used on windows when it is released to see the final results of how it works.
@ronaldaja341
@ronaldaja341 3 года назад
Many are actually reusing older iMacs by hooking up an HDMI adapter that connects directly to the panel (meaning not only it would work with non-functioning iMacs, it would also work while consuming far less energy!)
@kekkocheng
@kekkocheng 3 года назад
just use parsec, It's infinitely better than using a proprietary device.
@PatrikKron
@PatrikKron 3 года назад
Last time I checked, you could only use parsec _from_ Windows. Can you use if for a secondary display? I thought it was just for sharing the current display (at current resolution).
@crazyperson5222
@crazyperson5222 3 года назад
I use parsec all the time
@abhimaanmayadam5713
@abhimaanmayadam5713 3 года назад
Spacedesk also works
@fritzkier
@fritzkier 3 года назад
Meanwhile I uses Steam Link
@Catsrules1
@Catsrules1 3 года назад
That is for mirroring single display that already exists. For example my PC monitor is showing the samething that is being streamed via parsec to my TV. This is for streaming an secondary monitor so my PC monitor will be showing monitor 1 and tv will be showing monitor 2. Monitor 2 doesn't physically exist on the PC it is connected virtually and streamed over to the TV.
@hazmathews
@hazmathews 3 года назад
As soon as the second Linus popped up I got my hopes it was a VAG drop, lol
@Freakschwimmer
@Freakschwimmer 3 года назад
Same here....
@jspitman
@jspitman 3 года назад
A point of clarification in this video. Lina display was out well before sidecar. In the video you implied Luna came after sidecar. Their push into windows was spurred on by the sherlocking with the release of sidecar.
@WolfPaul
@WolfPaul 2 года назад
I ordered my Luna Display, I got a 2013 iMac waiting to be used as a gorgeous secondary display for my MacBook Pro,
@shutterbugsid1467
@shutterbugsid1467 3 года назад
Linus: ~ Just like our Spons-- Me: ➡➡➡ *segway goes boom* *LTT intro starts* Me: *vibing*
@sobhaks7231
@sobhaks7231 3 года назад
@Firebuster whats that never heard of it
@padillaxA
@padillaxA 3 года назад
I've been doing this for so long, even worse I tap out 10sec everytime they mention ltt store through the vid.
@sobhaks7231
@sobhaks7231 3 года назад
@Firebuster how do they know that?
@sobhaks7231
@sobhaks7231 3 года назад
@Firebuster oh ok thanks
@niravmandhani2598
@niravmandhani2598 3 года назад
At 0:13 when Linus made that noise, I thought there was a fly buzzing in my ear.
@lecogti177
@lecogti177 3 года назад
No you didn't.
@QuantumQuantonium
@QuantumQuantonium 3 года назад
For $0 you can do this on Windows with Spacedesk. The program runs on wifi, but it can run over a wire via USB tethering (it improves the signal). You can configure the touchscreen capabilities, resolution, compression, color accuracy, and much more to optimize the experience (latency is pretty good if you configure the settings, and is the display device can keep up.) Also supports 60fps.
@shrqdubs827
@shrqdubs827 3 года назад
well if youre on your personal / domestic lan you can use parsec, its just as fast and works like a charm for me
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