Turning My Character into a Male + Star Stable RUINED the Appaloosa & Arabian Horse! 

Heads up Denis. The old crusty gen2 appaloosas and paint horses are retiring August 16th. Just in case you did decide you want one.

LITERALLY The idle animations makes me so mad, like bro are you restless or what?

Exactly!!

We look like cereal boxes. I understand that some peoples body types are similar to that. But I one hundred percent agree with the fact that we are lacking in all waist definition and not to mention how flat we are.

@@gabriellecloverbow6271 my favorite outfit used to be a white cropped tank top and jeans, but now it’s so terribly unflattering that I don’t even like looking at it; it’s so frustrating

@@greystarling yeah same ;-;

Same I wish they just added better animations to older ones.

@@SieantheEquestrain true

same i literally was obsessed with my character she was so pretty bro i tried to remake her she looks weird tho

@@SieantheEquestrain so true

Same! They were like a mix of western comic book/ anime kind of art style like the original games that was really unique and really cool

It's a bug, they will revert it

@@nicoach1817 Is it same for the arabians?

@@nicoach1817 Knowing SSO, they'll just make a crappy excuse as to why they "felt like the current hard stop FiTs ThE BrEeD BeTTeR" and will leave it like this.

@@VivianaSilverback or what they did to the trakenher “We lost the files”

@@itzfuzzy1062 Their dog ate the files ig

Totally agree with you! I just can’t believe people asked over and over for skinnier body types and they just haven’t listened and haven’t made any changes from the first beta. It’s so frustrating honestly

Totally agree w u. Like the new ones feel so unfinished and we look like fricking 11 or something. I just wished they made a skinny and curvy one cause non of those we have look like mine. Also the run looks so goofy and I prayed that they make it look normal but the old one was way better :( . And they should have made the body types look older and not like little kids. Since we are a soulrider we should like atleast be close to the age of the others. The soulriders look now way older that us and it just feels even more like we arent actually one of them and were supposed to be close friends. But I like the hair too its really well done

I feel like the first thing they should have done was update the old body type of the older characters and maybe I’m butthurt because that was my body type but this is absolutely ridiculous I feel like they think skinny people are just a concept and not real these characters don’t even look like humans they should have skinnier face options and just suck it up and make male characters because this is like looking at an alien it’s not really feminine and it’s not really masculine I just see a toddler. I’m not asking for sims level customization but I’m asking for actual representation like they’re trying to advertise. They’re also hiding behind people wishing they looked like her but at the same time I’m not seeing any way a person could look like that. I saw the updated soul riders and dark riders and I was excited and I basically just saw pure disappointment at the spoilers. I would have preferred waiting an extra year for those other body types and I want skinnier faces. I’m not sure why they didn’t make a skinny, moderate, and heavier body type and then work on the in betweens. They took the idea of not wanting people to wish they looked like “her” too seriously considering there is barely any inclusivity. I love the diversity of skin shades, eye colors, and facial features but the faces don’t really have many options for the shapes instead of the noses or the mouths. I do prefer the older characters simply because it had my body type. And I know not everyone does but it feels like they stripped away something I had instead of updating it and throwing it in with the rest of the updated body types. And as someone with longer legs this is not representative at all to anyone. And they are catering to a kids body type? (I don’t even know what they are anymore) but what happens when those kids grow out of those body types? I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be playing as a kid and I especially don’t now! I’ve been playing for over a decade and maybe I’m being too critical but considering they knew there would be a lot of bugs proved that they weren’t really finished and rushed out to begin with. And why did they change horses animations that no one was complaining about. It’s absolutely absurd. People can be objectively “attractive” it’s not like they don’t exist. “Pretty” people exist and skinny people exist I don’t know what they were trying to say, because while trying to cater to a specific audience they were also throwing away another one in the process. This isn’t diversity it’s just an insult, almost like salt in a already existing wound. All the other soul riders look older and walking around looking like a child doesn’t even make sense plot wise considering they went to Jorvik for summer but then made the decision to stay, I don’t think a kid has the ability to decide to live somewhere on the spot after discovering they had abilities. I was already upset they got rid of older quests and changed the dialogue because newer quests brought up things I didn’t even know were happening simply because I played the older quests. This game is unfinished, yes, but I wish it was consistent. They’re trying to fix problems that don’t even exist like changing the horses animations too.

i understand technical limitations, but youre exactly right: a body slider and specific facial features would've been so much better. i really wish they didn't make this game mobile cuz we could've gotten so much more if the game stayed on desktop tbh. i think the new characters are pretty but theres just so much they did wrong.

right. and im almost 21. i dont and shouldnt feel/want to look like a pre-teen. that is wrong on so many levels

I don't think they're very customizable at all, with only like 6 body types and maybe 10 faces? I really wish we got different eye shapes, lip size, nose types, etc. Slider for chest size, etc

@@babesatlas they certainly have more and wider range of customization options, especially compared to the previous player character. Also, they are still adding different body types. That being said, remember that this is a game developed by a team w tech dept that's targeted at younger audiences. Although, based on the money that's collected, they definitely could do better. I think they're doing the most they CURRENTLY can with the game, but you have to think about whether the game could or couldn't handle a more in-depth character creator when it comes to technicalities. I agree though, that we should have more options in both faces and body types. That are much needed.

That’s what I noticed as well, a lot of the clothes, especially the shirts, polos and vests, look oversized and not fitted properly

@@inkxncharacter sliders have existed since 2000s. i’ve seen way older games with unreadable ancient code use sliders. they definitely can do it with their game engine, i just don’t think they want to rig sliders in their models (or no one in their team has the experience to do it)

@@slayfabihances are they didn’t want to update the topology of older clothing so in order to prevent clipping between the character they oversized it. there’s no other way around it, they’d have to update all the clothes to have the exact same topology as the model or a similar amount of edge loops. i’m gonna assume only newer clothes will be fitted properly by extrusion from the character mesh

same ugh :(

same ):

Keep in mind, THIS IS JUST THE FIRST UPDATE! It’s important for SSO to only release so much before releasing the second part, so that they can figure out bugs and stuff.

It’s also a kid game lol I don’t think sso wants to sexualize the characters by making them curvy etc

@@ericaespinoza2136 the characters are way curvier than they used to be so i dont think they care

I think a big problem is the pants being too low. If they made it so that they go a bit higher, it would look 1000x better

FR they are so taller!!!

How does a bug change an entire animation?

​@@EmJ.806 Wrong file fetching within the code. Usually in code animations are like a file and you have the code fetch it and execute/play it when it's needed (at least from what I know). I actually don't know how that would happen but perhaps it was an easy typo since they had to adjust our character's animations based on the horse as well.

@@MusicComet ah, thank you

they will !!! :D

how are they ruined? I only see a different hard stop and it still doesn't look that different from the original

They will, it's a bug and SSO said they're working on fixing it

It's the mustangs gaits, they're changing it!

@@miaow8670 it's also a bug with the arabians right?

And at the same time, many people I know (myself included) don’t feel represented at all with the new characters sadly. I feel kinda icky looking at the character I now have, I really don’t feel good about "myself" (aka my in game self) whenever I look at it. Don’t get my wrong to each their own, but I really don’t wanna look like these characters (not art style wise, but physique wise). 😕

@@TCGrey this is pretty much discriminating against thicker bodies, I mean we had the same thin bodys for all those years which at some point looked even underweight but the first time a game focuses on thicker body types everyone starts crying over it, that they don't feel represented and so on. seriously its just a game, get over it

@@kowie1436 No, that’s not what I said nor meant. It’s great that people finally have their type of body available, but at the same time I (and many others) now miss out. Miss out in an update that should have given EVERYONE a character model that represents them. Irl I‘m a skinny person with boobs and an hourglass shape - and I don’t get, why I‘m not allowed to say something about me, my type of body, being not represented in game (anymore). I don’t get, why my feeling aren’t as valid now as the feelings of people, who were under / not represented for years. This update should not have excluded anyone from feeling represented in game. But it does. People have been criticising the characters for years - and now it’s not allowed anymore? Everyone should feel good in their body, irl and in game, skinny or not, with boobs or without, having a rectangle shape, apple or hourglass. And at the moment I don’t feel good in "my SSO body", just like many people have over the years. What makes my feelings less important, than anyone else’s?

@@TCGrey yea I understand the not feeling represented body type wise (my body for sure isn’t on SSOs current roster) But these new characters are, honestly an upgrade from the older ones…Now, hopefully SSO cracks down on some better shapes to keep everyone happy. But by “new methods of representation”, I mean skin color, face shape (though there’s truly no way to make a face look like YOU without multiple sliders/editors etc) that’s something we haven’t had for years, individuality. Everyone’s older characters looked exactly the same compared to everyone else’s, and to be frank its…boring…especially after seeing these same characters for years on end. Granted that’s my own opinion on the old models, because I’ve never been even remotely attached to them at all, and I’ve been playing since 2016. It’s really nice to see that everyone’s characters at the moment are different. Everyone’s unique in their own right, which is hopefully a positive for everyone. And of course, this doesn’t mean your opinion is invalidated, far from it actually because it IS unfair to the people who don’t really feel like the current characters represent them, to kind of have to take it on a whim and pretend to be okay with it.

LOOOOOOL

omg bat😭

@@abbsunflower omg rabbit😭

Totally agree! And as for the jumping, I’ve always been taught to move my hands towards the horse’s ears to make it easier for the horse to stretch and make a better jump, on top of not risking to accidentally pull or injure the horse’s mouth and to learn to never rely on my hands/the reins for balance in the saddle; your balance should always be in your legs/seat. You don’t need to put your hands as far forward if the obstacle is low, but if it’s a taller one you definitely should. Most professional jumpers that actually know how to ride (oml I promise it sounds way more aggressive than I mean it to be-) will have their hands almost right behind the horse’s ears over the tall jumps to help their horses clear the obstacles without risking an accident/injury. I mean it’s hard for anyone to jump high with a good technique if you’re all tied together/held back (also yes, there’s multiple “professional” riders/jumpers who seemingly know nothing about how to actually ride and will flail over obstacles, pull harshly on the horse’s mouth to get balance etc.). But I do think that the hands could be moved closer towards the horse’s top line and go more towards the ears than the cheeks :,)

​@@freshtea9 What you said!! Depending on the height of the jump, my hands are either lower on the crest closer to the withers or higher on the crest closer to the ears. I don't put them on the side of the horse's neck because they'll just end up sliding and I'll bump my head against the crest, and also because I'll get yelled at for that. Another factor for me is how the horse jumps and how the neck of the horse is. I sometimes will ride a horse that tends to drag his front legs and dip his neck, and it has a natural arch so I see myself always putting them higher for better leverage and to allow better release on the horse. I feel like sso didn't really use any references on the two point whatsoever. I don't know who two points like that. The character looks like they just use their hands for balance because of the placement and it irks me so much haha. The balance comes from the legs, core, and hips, not the hands.

no fr tho they do 💀

i wheezed so hard 😂😂😂

It looks like when people fake run on the spot 😂

Same. They’re very, child-like, and muddy looking. Idk I had a special attachment to the old characters because it’s just old SSO, it’s what I grew up with, it’s what I’m used to. I also wish there were slimmer body types, individual nose shapes, lip shapes, heights, etc. The whole game just feels different and not in a good way. The new UI is mobile-like, the characters look like they came out of a mobile game (ever since both updates, my game is *insanely* laggy and crashing like crazy which shouldn’t be possible on a RTX 3060 card). For context: I haven’t played full-time since 2020, moved on to play rdr2 and haven’t come back except to buy new released horses and check out the updates. Kinda grew out of it I guess.

@@enexius67 My game is always crashing too its so annoying, the new Ui looks trashy. I hate how the characters have no curves no boobs etc. why cant we have thin characters? the update needs work

@@henrietta9394 Literally...

Its sooo goffy, i always laugh when i see it XD

that’s more realistic. old characters were too tiny. that’s why it feels weird

@@rarw3363 I guess you are kinda right it just feels so so off it could be fun if we could adjust our own height but that would be tons of work

@@gr1mre4per oh yeah that would be awesome but too much work to do i guess

They don't really care. There are glitches from about 2 years ago that never got fixed.

they will change it, it's a bug they said they are working on it

I feel this way with a lot of the new clothing meshes too. I spent sm money and time on my wardrobe and I can hardly use any of it especially the old (previously Spanish topped) tall boots which means I have to buy ALL new boots that have the Spanish top mesh

They know they are safe from being sued up the A, and hacks and doxxing. They shouldn’t be if this is how they treat their players that pay them. But they know they are safe so they continue to do weird things that will negatively effect their game. However, I feel those horses will be fixed in the future. It could be a bug, if not that will suck.

they did the same thing with the trakehners and never changed them back. im still angry about it. the gallop on the trakehners was beautiful and i bought 5 of them. now i hate them and never touch them

@@Ewen-tn9pg It will never happen

You liked the crusty old ones?

@@cocothepom-pom9143yes they didn’t have puffy faces and bad riding posture like the new ones 😅

​@@henrietta9394Thats sarcasm right?

@@cocothepom-pom9143 Yes 😅 Nostalgia and simplicity for me, less going on. The news ones seem very Sims Mobile and child-looking (or just super young, which feels odd as an 18 y/o player)

Amen to that yes that's what I am talking as a older player you feel more attached to your older player then the new player 😭😭😭😭😔😔🙄🙄

I am not going to talk abt the animations tho, cause thats a different story....

I really want them to add facial piercings!

​@@a.90129omg that would be AWESOME, I would love to give my character nose and brow piercings

yeah I've noticed if you look at a face from a certain angle it kinda doesn't match the front. I wished they matched our character's style with the soul riders but Im not hating the update

of course it was...

And they won't fix it.

Frr