Turning Red: Why Is Everyone So Mad? 

Yes that’s what I was thinking too. I also noticed her mom was surprised by how young she was when it came out. Leads me to think her moms overbearing nature caused it to happen sooner, instead of later like she wanted

I thought I was the only one who thought that

I agree, and for people being dramatic about the film mentioning periods,,, I dont even get why they made a big ass deal about the period scene, I'd rather have a scene from a supposed kid's movie about periods rather than subtle sex jokes cause periods would be easier to explain to a curious child rather than intercourse lmao

@@hellcat5277 They didn’t even mention periods, not really. The only thing they say is pads. We need more films like this. Maybe then there won’t be men who legitimately believe we lay a single egg once a month like a fucking chicken. (Seriously some men think this.)

@@andysmith5806 okay I honestly know that you don’t lay an egg like a chicken but I have made the joke numerous times to my bestie. And then she makes jokes about my pubescent natures. So we get even and have a few laughs

Yup that’s why Male critics hate movies like Birds of Prey, Turning Red, Charlie’s Angels (2019 version). Because if the female protagonist isn’t sexualized in anyway then chances are that they won’t even bother watching it before saying it’s “cringe sjw feminists man-hating trash”

@@Pink_pr1ncess most people hated birds of prey and 2019 Charlie’s angels cause they were objectively bad movies though.

@@drstrangelove307 ) nah.

I thought I received backlash because there isn’t any gay characters smh , the new age

@@formodius No, that's just what sad puppies keep trying to claim to distract from their own eye rolling whinging.

It shouldn't be a taboo topic but still is. In 2022! Puberty and periods happen, and they are unavoidable. Do moms even remember the first time they got their period and probably needed guidance? It's like moms and other adults have never struggled with puberty, so they expect their children to never question it!

i feel like by 5th grade all children should go through a health class on this thats what my school did i really didnt want to go but i am thankful i did embarrassing yes but its important and shouldnt be such a taboo topic i asked my mom if i couldnt go but she forced me to

my school did a whole presentation on it when we were in 5th grade but without the boys

@@momakesvids5704 that's what my school did aswell the girls watched their own and the boys watched their own in separate rooms tho it is important for girls and boys to learn about each others bodys as well

i think thats just absurd. i mean i get its not a comfortable topic to talk about but it still needs to be discussed. if parents cant talk about this with their kids i really dont think they're prepared to be a parent

Please if you got period 8 or below years of age... Definitely tell your parents.. That ain't normal

@@yachishairclips2250 no i started at 8 and a half, but my mom didn't tell me anything about it before so i didn't know what was happening

I thought I kept sh*ting myself the first two days because it didn’t look like typical blood to me at first lmao I can laugh now but it started at school (elementary) so it was pretty horrific at the time and avoided telling my mom for like half of that first week

It's because it is so scary and confusing that women don't want periods treated irreverently as jokes in kids movies like this.

@@yachishairclips2250 It is normal for 8 year olds to have one

This is a great point. I think about a tweet or something when people where trying to desperately to get parents to stop telling children (some girls go through puberty and start there period at 8!) that this now suddenly makes them women. It robs girls of their childhood. It's irresponsible, honestly.

Exactly! I was also 11 when mine happened, was still in elementary school but hopefully my father had told me everything about it so I didn't freak out. I could not even understand the thought of not explaining periods to your child and just let it happen to them, that would be traumatizing

@@coralinejones505 My sister was 8 when it happened to her, you're literally correct.

I was 10 when I got mine. I'm glad my mom kept me informed about it before it happened. so when it did happen, I was prepared.

@@coralinejones505 I was 11 when I first got mine. My mom didn't properly educate me beforehand because she thought she would have more time until it became relevant. Anyway, she told some people she knew and I hated it. The neighbor lady showed up with a bunch of flowers and told me "you're a woman now", my homeroom teacher shook my hand and told me the same. I was disgusted. It was one of the things that ended my childhood.

@@cozyglow100 no

Why you say that

@@cozyglow100 it’s nothing personal I just disagree with your opinion

@@cozyglow100 Oklahoma

I married to lord betrayus

This movie perfectly captured the cringe as a 13 year to the point where I felt like I was seeing myself back when I was 13 which is funny, nostalgic yet embarrassing at the same time. The ppl who have an issue with the movie obvious can't relate to it

she literally turns into an animal literally

Amen!

So you like Cuties then

@@557deadpool No, because there was something inherently wrong and sexual about that, because it was basically Hollywood licensed child p*rn. Go see a fucking doctor before you open your flap again freak.

Heck yeah, lets do it

Exactly, thank you! Funny how those ranting against such things are reading that into this movie, almost like those things are already on their (small) minds...

Regarding that quote... I only half-agree with it. I mean, if the video's author was talking about how periods are not sexual... That wold make sense. But what he is saying is that there is nothing innately sexual about about a LITERAL red panda, and so, as long as with interpret the photos' scene literally, there is nothing sexual about it either. But here is the thing: even if something is not innately sexual, it may be used as a metaphor for something that is. For example, in the manga/anime series Beastars, carnivores eating herbivores is often treated as an allegory for sexual assault. And they are not subtle about it. The characters themselves talk about being unable to fully dissociate the feelings of hunger and arousal. And there is one character who, after eating a friend, keeps defending himself by saying he had their "consent." So, even if there is nothing innatele sexual about a predator eating prey... Withim the context of the series, this act is very much sexualised. And if the series at some point decides to treat it in a completely literal way, this will send mixed messages. Because the story itself already attributed a symbolic value to it. This is actually a very common issue with stories that use animals as metaphor for human problems, actually. "To which extent is this literally a story about animals, and to which extent this is about people?"... If you sometimes treat it as a metaphor, and sometimes ignore the metaphor and treat the story only in the most literal sense, you will most likely give mixed messages. Whether this is a problem in Turning Red or not, I don't know. I've yet to watch the movie. But assuming that her turning into a panda is used in a symbolic way to talk about puberty and sexual development... Well, I can't blame people who tought that using it to make some money was a bit creepy. I don't think that children who are mostly engaged with the movie's literal meaning are going to think of "nudes". And I'm sure the creators never intended for the photos to be interpreted that way. And the existence of that scene doesn't make it a "pedo-movie", nor does it mean the movie deserves to be "cancelled." But, if sometimes you want the audience to treat the panda as a metaphor, and sometimes you want them to treat it ONLY as a literal panda... Well, you cannot blame the audience when they get mixed messages.

Wait, that was a thing people thought?! I haven't even watched Spirited Away yet, but asuming it's about the japanese sex industry seems sooooooooo far out there! xD How did they come up with that conspiracy idea?!

No, Spirited Away was a social commentary on capitalism with an anti capitalist message

Man spirited away is beautiful and i love it but it was such a trip i get lost with the message

@@unicorntomboy9736 was it? Or am I just not that good of a deeper meaning person???

@@tomlink5784 I written about that very thing for a college essay

And even if the panda was a period metaphor, it was taken in stride eventually by both Mei and Ming. It would also ironically further the message of growing into yourself as a teenager. Mei has periods and she adjusts to it nicely, like Mei has the panda and adjusts to it nicely.

That's what I was thinking too

This summed up what I felt as well!

I think if the people who have issues with it would stop assuming just period and instead think puberty as a whole it makes so much more sense. The period is just one part of puberty, granted it is the part that makes it obvious that puberty is here, but the panda as puberty helps encompass everything that is going on with Mei.

It’s strange how people need to turn metaphors into such literal meanings, rather than an understanding that the metaphor might be more of an abstract concept

Mine was at 10. I got blood on the chair at school and cleaned it without drawing attention.

Whoa, hey, hold on there: You mean something can be an allegory for *multiple* things? Not just one? That's impossible! That'd mean the big brain crew making wild statements about this movie aren't geniuses!

@@crazyinsane500 Oh they're geniuses! Just... misguided.

Turning Red is one of these movies that everybody hates now but give it a few years and everyone will praise it.

"Cuties was just hatred"? Du-ude!

Honestly enjoyed the movie, it’s pretty goo, but like 90% of the people I know who don’t like the movie don’t really care about the fact it’s representative of periods or her bottled up emotions, it’s mostly “ew, furry propaganda!”

This movie is Pixar getting a damn spine.

@@austinpapageorge7210 I need my brain cells back because someone called it as a puberty furry movie

@@austinpapageorge7210 it’s more like Pixar rebelling against Disney

@@doctorbillsans9492 same thing. Disney doesn’t have a spine when it comes to plots in a movie anymore

It's 2022 people will get offended by anything.

Being a 13 year old boy is more about trying to deal with newfound crippling loneliness and immense rage that bursts forth out of nowhere and leaves just as quickly. Idk, I'm glad not to be a teenager anymore.

​@@Error0101 Anybody of any gender around this age can feel this way. Being a13 year old girl I get really angry really easily, and then the anger vanishes and I hate it. I hate being so easily agitated it makes me feel terrible. I am extremely lonely, and it's so hard sometimes. While some behaviors may be more common depending on gender, your statement seems to be speaking for a lot of people.....?

i felt EXPOSED

The drawing scene really...really encapsulates every artist's experience. I felt called out lmao

fr even if you aren't a girl or in a strict Asian household, you can still feel called out by *something* from this movie and it just shows how real a stylized cartoon movie like this can be. If people learned to overlook "stuff for kids" as if it means it isn't allowed to be deep.

AMEN! the movie's not just about puberty, its about KIDS, it's about family bonds, and Mei drawing the pictures is just what happens when hormones begin! I despise people who take normal things and make them a "taboo subject" it makes simple things so difficult 😒

Seems to me that people(usually more conservative/religious) really seem to like... have this thing, when it comes to girls. Of over-protectiveness and treating like... ugh words. Just, jumping on it? Making everything into some kind of sexualized whatever when it's often not even there. I see it around me in some people irl as this suffocating, well-meaning but ridiculous, "girls/women gotta stay Pure and 'Virginal' and totally clueless and ignorant, practically asexual(ironically? or not, I am and also aromantic but anyhow) and not be attracted to anyone, or attract anyone. They cannot learn ANYTHING when in their mid-teens beyond 'you must not be alone with boys or you will get pregnant', and as they grow up they must hide any curves they may have until their miraculous Perfect wedding night, which is the only acceptable way and must only be shared with a heterosexual man..." *shrug* Sometimes I wish I were entirely androgynous, or an android or something so people would stfu and stop treating me either like I must remain unaware my whole life/or I will turn into someone having the sex with anything that moves or some nonsense. I want nothing to do with this absolute bullshite. They don't own me or other gals so they can f%ck right off. Like I don't plan on anything ever, but learning is necessary regardless because, surprise, EVEN IF YOU NEVER HAVE SEX stuff can still happen and it's just a good idea to know about your /own friggin body/. And it's so frustrating when they just never tell you things and you find out on your own after the fact. Or if you DO want children and all that, it's never talked about so you grow up learning nothing except what you can glean from overhearing kids at school-if you're not homeschooled-or if you can sneak on a computer or read a book with some scene in it without getting caught, and it almost feels its FORBIDDEN to learn about anything-all the godsd$mned way until you're engaged. Like, what? We just can't win and it's all absurd and drives me bonkers.

it genuinely disgusts me that conservative men are insinuating that periods are a SEXUAL thing. wtf??

lol right? she wasn't even drawing anything that bad, it's not even shirtless. When I think of myself back at that age it's like....whoa boy

@Chandler Burse Women sexually harassing men is indeed a problem society should address, no doubt. A man should not be made to feel like less of a man if he experiences such an awful occurrence. There needs to be a safety net and support so a man can report that to authorities without being mocked. But Jesus Christ this is a movie about teenage girl puberty, not sexual assault. We can address issues individually as well you know? Just because there’s a movie for kids about racism doesn’t mean we still shouldn’t discuss sexism in whatever form it takes. It’s just a family movie dealing with certain themes.

I found one dude saying that Turning Red "objectifies" boys. Ok bro, teen girls having crushes is "objectification", but teen boys sneaking into girls locker rooms and sneaking pron mags isn't.

THIS - I've even had explain this to a female co-worker of mine because they were so stuck on the red panda = period but it's really about growing up as a whole and the parts that come with that. I don't know why that's so hard to understand 😆 It took me no time to understand that it could mean more than just one single thing.

B-but this RU-vidr I watch said metaphors can only mean one thing :(((((

@@echelonangel98 I mean, it’s still predominantly about female puberty like periods, new hair, and body oder (the panda being a RED Panda vs say a giant panda or any other animal; the red panda smells; it’s hairy; hormonal changes and brain rewiring create stronger emotions), even if other things apply or can correlate as well…

Agreed. Similar to what Pig mentioned here, the “panda pics” things did initially come off to me as weird and I thought the way it was phrased made it seem odd, but, naturally, that was quickly debunked by the fact that Mei was the equivalent of a big furry mascot. Mei suddenly is cool and popular, and the kids at school love it. They seem to accept her because she has something that is unique, the way her friends did, or the girls from the PE class. She’s using her newfound popularity (literally transforming into a panda) to make friends and sell merch. It would be the equivalent of a musician or an artist or even a RU-vidr selling merch of themselves or what they do. So “panda pics” is essentially a meet-and-greet

@@anonymousfellow8879 how is new hair and body odor "predominantly about female puberty" boys go through with that too. The only specific thing that girls and women go through in this movie is periods. Even drawing your crushes and idolizing musicians.

I had a false alarm for my period when I was 8. My mom just muttered to herself and gave me a pad. No explanation. No nothing. Hiding it helps no one

@@maycarmel8416 if you don't want to share thats fine, but how do you have a false alarm when it comes to periods?

@@llynxfyremusic unusual discharge I suppose.

@@llynxfyremusic I'd imagine minor trauma from exercise or over stretching? Like you hear those stories of people tearing their hymen exercising and stuff like that. So you can make yourself bleed a bit that way. Idk for sure though, just my best guess

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I saw some guy get shamed for having an unintentional boner that was natural.

@@PapaDeadd Okay? And?

@@PapaDeadd I think your trying to take the spotlight away from a woman's problem and turn it into a men's problem. I understand that some things happen without control and people shouldn't be shamed for it. But really? You just had to change the entire subject to men being victims?

@@PapaDeadd do you speak about that independently as its own issue or only when women are speaking about womens issues? Either way you using a “whataboutism” to distract what’s being discussed is another societal issue. Women can’t ever talk about their experiences without a man saying but what about us 🥴

@@tacosauce8639 i think he's trying to point out the hypocrisy and how it's a problem that goes beyond just women

i feel like praising a movie on "immaculate diversity" alone is kinda silly, especially for an animated feature.

Diversity does not make a movie better, nor does the lack of diversity make it worse.

@@heckicusdoomicuswizardus1382 yeah, you're entitled to that opinion... But representation happens to be incredibly important to me and many others. It's fantastic to see and I'm absolutely the type to express my gratitude/joy.

@@gralmakaren9919 it's fine that you guys are missing the point of what I said... I'm still gonna stand by my statement.

@@heckicusdoomicuswizardus1382 are you saying you're against diversity in animated movies?

Just say you didn’t like it and move on.

Don’t forget that Disney is a company that regularly has employees arrested for pedophilia. Not a far stretch as you think.

Wtf?? I watched it today and I don't know what kind of mental gymnastics you have to do to reach that batshit of a conclusion. It's literally tailor made for _kids_ and their experiences with _puberty_

This

I swear that the Lolcow RU-vid channels like the “Quartering” who are saying that it’s “pedo” or “sexual” are full of crap.

I think going off of this strong comment section and likes that it's far from the truth that "majority of people" do not like this movie. I think that it's cringe-iness in the beginning didn't help it start strong XD and I ABSOLUTELY enjoyed the movie! But it was a rough start. Most men were a bit uncomfortable with it, but eh- they're more prone to be because it's not relating to them, it's relating to females. A lot of men that I know just couldn't relate which is FINE by me, they aren't obligated to

@@Sophia-fk6km I mean not everything has to be about them.

it teaches kids to twerk and not listen to there parents

@@LBJ22910 huh? no. just no. what are you basing this off of?

jade2fast the whole movie

THE CARRIE METHOD LMAO. No but fr these parents looked up to Carrie’s mother as a role model or something 😭

The mom certainly looks up to Carrie’s mother. I’d also blame the the dad because he doesn’t do shit up until the climax.

But purity balls where you date your own father are perfectly fine.

That’s a strawman fallacy but ok

i WISH my mom did the Carrie method, she wants me to get a boyfriend and go to prom, but I dont want a boyfriend and don't want to go to prom

Those people shouldn't even be parents. And Ming was definitely too controlling and toxic but she was also a really good mom, especially during that scene.

Exactly! It's both a great joke and the perfect way to show that her mom is actually a good parent despite her mistakes. It keeps her from becoming a true antagonist.

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And then they ruined the touching moment, by having her mom sneak around the school like a creeper and yell that she forgot her pads in front of her class while waving them around. I'm not surprised that women are insulted by this movie and don't want there girls to watch it.

Red Panda is allegory for periods so no Mom doesn’t think she KNOWS. and let’s be real here whatever you pretend the allegory is she is selling it to get the money a 13 year old girl is selling herself for the money in a Pixar movie, that’s a whole of a lot worse than “ew periods”

yea same. i watched it with my mom and brother. it was nice to watch and very relatable. i dont see anything wrong with it. definitely don’t see what ppl are freaking out over. its not the movie that’s the problem, its the ppl.

the movie had me singing that band’s song for like a week lmfao

I watched it with my mother and nephews!! It was so adorable!! I had the same feeling as watching puppies and kittens playing!! They're children!! What are they talking about that was sexual???

@@Minna9999 because apparently anything involving girl's nether regions, even as in health/biological sense is considered sexual, or at least that's how the conservatist 300lbs neckbeards see it bonus points if this is in a kid's movie, then they will lose their shit and start to hurl all insults they can and call the producents/anyone involved in the making and the people who liked it pedophiles

I think the modern internet is turning people into a complete spaz these people are being to literal and trying to sound smarter than the average English teacher.

Yup, it’s like dress codes. Girls aren’t ‘distracting’ boys by showing their knees. It’s the boys who are in the wrong for being thought that they should sexualise the girls.

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Victim mentality

@@bendavis6457 lol. As a man, this is true whether you want to call it "victim mentality" or not....it's literally evident by the unnecessary backlash that this movie got if you needed proof.

What nobody hates teenage girls, it's the opposite way around

@@jessepinkman1050 ...

@@jessepinkman1050 .... Which parallel universe have you fallen through to get here?

are Tween not people over twenty called?

@@Matagu1 no tweens are 12 year olds

Yess agreed this movie really got that energy down to a T. Really took me down a nostalgic trip

@@Matagu1 What an idiot.

but girls don’t have periods that’s a myth created by sjws 🤦🤦🤦

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i saw the panda as more a metaphor for puberty. Like, you are turning into something different, periods are just a part of that process. "Turning red" could also relate to the intense feelings of anger and embarrassment that come with the heightened emotions of puberty. It really is such a multifaceted metaphor and means a lot depending on who you ask or what lens your choose to look at it through

Its a metaphor for a demon. Open your eyes its not that hard. Just use your eye muscles or your spiritual muscles. Once you do this, you may just open the book called a Bible and read it and see just how much it predicts in just this movie. Or just take 10 minutes out of your long life and watch this video to be saved from an eternity in hell. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-56AGx9o5Cgk.html

Some people are extremely poisoned by religion. Shunning your daughter into the tainted shed isn’t legally allowed anymore so they have to express it in other terrible ways.

The creators state it’s about periods.

The creator directly said the its a metaphor for periods. Parents are teaching their kids about periods, that's the point. Women don't want periods being treated irreverently or being put in kids movies.

I'd say it's a metaphor for both puberty, and generational trauma. Embracing your changes, overcoming the grief of generational trauma thats been passed down from parent to child, trying to instill that same fear. Maybe not so much "trying", but unknowingly driving into that same path.

I agree that such a message is very valuable, but don't you think that portraying rebelling against your parents and going behind their backs in a positive light can be pretty harmful. To be fair, Mei's mom is like Beverley from The Goldbergs, but still. Not to mention the message that 13 year olds are adults.

I didn't even consider that the panda was a symbol for a period until whatching this video. I was caught up on the fact that this sets a bad example for actual 13 year olds.

@@aielliott4373 Going against your parents is a completely normal part of growing up. I don’t think anything Mei did to rebel against her mother was “harmful” to portray. Additionally, no one batted an eye when Riley ran away from home in Inside Out. I just don’t understand the take that Turning Red is a bad example for kids. Also the message is not “13 year olds are adults”, what?’

@@aielliott4373 Do you know anything about 13 years old or are you trying to misinform people? When I was 13 I acted like this by swearing, getting suspended 5+ times and I did get violent if I was provoked but I never meant to hurt anyone, it was irrational fear due to going to highschool at such a young age and I wasn't one to take kindly to change or stress as I still hate change as it feels like I had no control. *Note: I'm just explaining what I went through and not all 13 year olds will act as a perfect child.*

I'd say the last time I've watch a movie with realistic portrayal of a middle schooler's life would be Bo Burnham's Eight Grade

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Very major difference in the two main characters that probably plays a factor too, if you catch my drift.

I think it's the severe taboo behind periods and simply talking about them. Had Inside Out talked about periods beyond one vague mention of puberty, I imagine it would've gotten raked over the coals for being "too sexual" Periods should be normalized because it is a normal part of growing up just as how boys have morning wood and vocal cracks. The backlash Turning Red received was unfair. It accurately portrayed teenage girls as teenage girls. Kinda cringey, struggling with emotions, not real sure how to handle themselves, weird crushes, all that stuff

Selling pictures of yourself online for monetary gain usually doesn't end well No matter what way you slice it, making money behind your mom's back by selling photos and videos of yourself to go to a concert is not really a good idea. I imagine belle delphine started innocently, I imagine allot of the TikTok thots did it innocently. But the second you start talking money it becomes a different thing all together. Growing up is understanding the other side, this definitely seems like a great movie about coming of age for women. Maybe those same women are protective of the fact that little girls get objectified on the internet to sell their bodies all the time for social gain. Maybe that's just something women who care really despise in a movie that otherwise would be perfect for them.

"It's weird to me how "Turning Red" was villianised before releasing, but everyone still loves "Inside Out". You know, the movie of a girl getting so depressed that she goes emotionally numb and tries to run away from home because the pressure of maintaining the image of happiness is too overwhelming for her." Those 2 movies are completely incomparable... To act like they should be treated as equally controversial is like acting as if both Sausage Party and Toy Story have the same target audience because they are both animated.

^^^

This.

Exactly

You mean how society treats it as sacred and therefore are insulted when it is treated irreverently as it is in this movie. I'm sorry your disappointed that female puberty is treated with so much more respect them male puberty.

@@The1Ryu Dude I’ve never once felt that my puberty was ”sacred” wtf are you talking about? If anything I was only taught that it was shameful and should be hidden away, just like female sexuality. Do you even realize how often an early puberty has been used as an excuse to sexulize and sometimes even assult young girls? And how often regular people even buy these exuses? If female puberty is so sacred why do men and boys often feel like puking only by the thought of period blood? If it is so sacred why don’t we just drink it to gain its ethereal properties??

Male puberty un a nutshell: Anger+ Professor Jerkov

​@@The1Ryu Actually, sexual promiscuity in women is punished. Women are told to be hush-hush about a bodily function (i.e. Bleeding out of an orifice). Puberty for both guys and girls sucks but no one holds the thing sacred.

@@roxassora2706 No promiscuity is seen as bad in both genders, but men haven't had a campaign excuse their every bad sexual behavior. Quite the opposite, men's sexuality is often demonized; they have to be trained not to rape. Again everyone is taught to be be hush-hush about their bodily functions, no one needs to know when you are doing any of that stuff. Yes female puberty is held as sacred, periods in particular, that is obvious by the fact they they aren't even mentioned in adult films. That's because women don't want them talked about.

everyone's way too focused on the fact that it slightly mentions periods to actually care about anything else that happens in the movie

No one's complaining about the intergenerational trauma

@@d34thl1ng And it’s maybe mentioned like, twice? There was a lot in this movie to appreciate and everyone was focused too on “shark week nasty”

I mean pick one. Movie for boys like this act like guys are born 21 years old and if they experience life or emotions they get forgotten receiving no attention from the public. I feel bad because i think youre right but only because women are like 80% of the media specifically teenage girls its all everyone talks about all the time. They're the center of the universe.

@@dwaynebrice1697 Why do I have to pick one? You brought up boys movies and I never mentioned anything about that. Make your own comment about men’s movies because this isn’t about that and I never mentioned boys targeted towards men. I also do not care because I am NOT a boy???

It pisses me off honestly. If anything the panda while partially could represent puberty, also represents suppressed emotions finally coming out, where sometimes it’s just better to be open to reallt your parents on how you truly feel, yet at the same time the conflict being the mom who had put highest expectations over her and think she could do no wrong. This is honestly in some weird way soemthint I can relate to as someone who has anger issues and seeing people call it a pedo film and such as someone who was groomed many times makes me mad and needs to actually think about what they just said.

WTF even is that conclusion- That's like saying the way Nemo was kidnapped for a fish tank is comparable to child trafficking

@@rainandhail67 exactly! It’s stupid as helll

They're probably the same people to say gen z is hypersensitive, do they hear themselves??

It is still her capitalizing on her period, and we know that because the creator directly stated that the Red Panda represented her period.

It literally doesn’t fit with what the writers themselves said. Based off of what they said and how they want to interpret it, it’s basically promotion of child prostitution. It’s either a hidden message or the show was written by idiots.

@@theredknight9314or maybe metaphors don’t have to be completely literal

@@pompodorkii624 nope cause its not a metaphor

@@theredknight9314 ok so…. the panda isn’t a metaphor for puberty?

@@pompodorkii624 sorry i responded to the wrong vomment i was confused

I actually never realized that, but it makes so much sense. Scott turning into a werewolf was basically puberty (or “manhood”) for him, and I believe his father said that it was natural and basically inevitable, and learn to accept himself. I think I also remember his dad telling him that he has to learn to control “the wolf” and not let it control him. It also makes sense about the boost of self-confidence, the amount of hair growth, the increase in aggression, him at first feeling like a “freak” even though his dad reassured him it’s normal, him starting to do things impulsively, only using his “wolf” side to be accepted by his peers, and etc. Can’t believe it took me this long to think about it.

Double Standards suck, for everyone

Guy with anger problems because excess testosterone isn't the same as a lil girl bleeding from her hoo ha. Sorry that you didn't know that.

@@jonrousseau1379 yeah, you should really re-read their comment and/or possibly mine as well to get a better perspective instead of seeing it as one-dimensional. Of course they’re not totally compatible, but that doesn’t mean they *don’t* have similarities (like the example about taking pictures and selling merch) considering they’re both coming-of-age movies about accepting yourself and also maturing - not just physically. Also, he wasn’t just a “guy with anger problems.” Don’t want to sound rude, but have you even seen the movie? There were many examples in Teen Wolf that both boys and girls can experience when going through puberty.

@@jonrousseau1379 The main differences between the two isn’t just the plot, age differences, types of audience, and etc, but it’s also about how they express the “coming-of-age.” Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t say it’s exactly a double standard, but they do have their similarities and they obviously got different feedback for it.

Jesus is coming soon and just like the bible said you;re going to mourn when he's revealed. The devil will be revealed first as an angel of light, just as this movie proclaimed and deceive people to take the mark of the beast. The devil hides in plain sight, just like the stuff showed in this movie because its how to tempt people. I hope you take this message seriously because if not you're in big trouble on judgment day. Also this "wild side" is our demons. Oh and these demons are REAL.

SHE IS A COMMUNIST

Her panda was an expression of her emotions. Which spoke to me as a child with asian parents because growing up, ANY emotion was frowned upon and I was grilled for "why are you so (emotion)" whenever I didn't have a blank face.

Imagine being the creator of this innocent movie about a girl turning into a giant red panda and seeing people go like SELLING HER """"""PANDA"""""" PICS IS A MeTaPhOr FOR SEELING HER B O D Y I legit would cry what the fuck is wrong with people

When I heard that statement I wheezed so damn hard- Legit never came through my mind

I realized the panda was a metaphor for multiple things, but I hadn't thought of it under that perspective, it makes so much sense! And honestly makes it even better, the panda _ALSO_ being Mei-Mei getting in touch with their culture like no one else in the family did before~

its a kids movie anyone that looks deep into it is doing to much . like ever your reaching

That's the thing with analogy. People reveals their inner values when given something that connects to them. Sadly, instead of realizing that people had : Multiple different backgrounds Intergenerational cultures Familial values and teachings Up until environmental upbringing ... from parents to behave exactly the way Meilin does in Turning Red during the age of Sudden Realization, Social media users just thinking of sex and puberty. Ending up in revealing themselves as who they are as they project their Ego into the viewer's Stand In. While far too many different people experiencing this exact problem in real life getting projected upon Social Media Users feeling the exact opposite. Turning Red is a good movie, and of course the moment Asian like me gets represented in a movie, Social Media gets angry because it's not fitting their Hollywood Stereotype.

White children don't have culture? Racist?

@@gianlucacorrea4216 No they don't because "white" isn't a culture, maybe think before you throw a tantrum.

I wish I had a Pixar movie explaining to me what a boner was when I was a kid. Would have cleared up a lot of things

(fyi I'm kidding please don't lynch me)

The woke want to sexualize everything nowadays so people immediately jump to that conclusion. Just look at how people went crazy because Florida's trump banned talking about sex and sexuality to 4-8yr olds in classrooms without parents consent. People are just experiencing PTSD from sexuality being forced in everyone's face so they get confused when a movie about bodily changes is released.

@@10awkwardpenguins So here’s a question, do you want to shriek about Snow White, Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty too? Or are heterosexual relationships being shoved in everyone’s faces ok? And there are age appropriate things you CAN talk to 4 and 8 year olds about. Proper names, consent, hygiene. This has helped kids who have been S-assaulted get their abusers sent to jail. Also, teaching non-traditional Family structures. All the “don’t say gay” bull does is shame and alienate LGTB+ kids or those with LGTB+ families, and YES they do exist. How hard do you have to pretend LGTB+ people don’t exist, until we actually stop existing?

@@mondenkindqueen do those Disney princesses talk about sexual intercourse? Do they talk about genitalia? no one is pretending they don't exist, but trying to establish a time and place. Kids are to young and naive to understand consent and don't understand the complexity with things involving ADULTHOOD. THATS WHY SEX ED IS TAUGHT UNTIL MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGHSCHOOL. Kids don't fully understand, that's why kids are easily groomed. They are too young to be talking about those things. It's creepy and disgusting talking to a 5yr old about their private parts and what you can do with said parts. At that age the only thing at that age they should know about genitalia is that's were pee comes from, period. Anything else is predatory and grooming. Any kid before puberty that has some type of dysphoria should seek professional medical treatment and should be kept private.

It a good movie but saying it's their best movie in a long time is going too far. Luca and Soul are actually really good 👍 I will say that I avoided watching soul because I felt like they were being cheap with the animation. But I was wrong the story and plot of Soul makes it one of their best. But seeing red is good I just feel like Pixar is actually on a roll right now.

@@tlc1432 it’s just their opinion, you know. Don’t forget that people’s love of certain movies will tie into their personal experiences so this person is able to relate to their own life and therefore finds it better then Soul or Luca, likely cuz they couldn’t relate as strongly.

I don't like how you called period's gross, but ok

@@koolkaty4088 Okay....?

Not to be that person but from all the reports it's mostly moms complaining that they have to explain things to their daughters other earlier than they wanted to… Hardly any of the compalinsts are coming from guys/masculine toxicity it's just smaller crowds sometimes speak louder than others

thats actually the best interpretation ive heard on this movie omg

This makes a lot of sense,but I think it's a little more than that (based at my experience, at least) the panda it's not just a metaphor for the period, but also of the process of growing up and "turning into a woman",consequently ceasing to be a child, and from the moment things start to happen that indicate this growth (perhaps not talking about menstruation itself, but the interest in boys for example) this is seen as ""something bad""", like it's not normal for the age and like it's something you shouldn't be feeling, which only makes us even more confused about everything.

@@natz1573 all those words just to get disproven

@@maven9323 How? The creator of the movie said it's about puberty which is everything Natz described.

You'll find out soon enough that your female friends don't want to talk about their periods, and to tell you their truth that's not because of our society, it's because they don't want to talk about it. That's not something you will understand because you are not female and you don't have the disgust sensitivity of women or the instincts that they developed over in order to deal safely with their periods. That sensitivity is why they don't want to see movies about it.

It’s because you are literally 13. You don’t understand the implications as a child and I don’t claim that as a child I understood the implications as well. Distance yourself from the internet and you will begin to see how warped things are

@da wea my broda da wea my broda what do you mean it’s cringe to tell people to distance themselves from the internet. Tell me why. I’d like to here your reasoning why it’s cringe

@da wea my broda da wea my broda and it had to do with it because when you’re young you think you know a lot. This kid is acting like he sees the themes that make parents and other adults incredibly uncomfortable. Children miss it but adults don’t. It’s like the adult joke people put in kids show but now instead of being hidden it’s blatantly out there

@@Where14 because your making yourself look dumb on the internet it’s ironic

That you didn’t pick up on the connotations is one thing, but that’s what the creator said it was about

From the trailers, I thought it was about periods. I never watched the movie. 😅

@@folofus4815 Yea I saw that part. I'm just saying I didn't see it that way

there were sexual connotations

I see it as a puberty, coming of age, family relationships movie. It’s definitely mostly about puberty though

yeah and it would make sense why it's a hereditary thing too. it's generational trauma and generational burden.

I think there's a lot of different messages and view points to this movie and that's what I love most. Yes you can think about it being the mood swings and emotions carried with periods but it can also be stress and truama of the family as well. I honestly think it's a mix between the two but I also love that you can interpret in your own way as well sense that's how movies are supposed to be! Also I 100% agree it definitely shows and talks about the traumas and such of the family and I feel like a lot of people are missing a lot of the messages because we all get so stuck on one view which is a shame. (ofc I'm not trying to say that the talk and conversation about periods being in a movie is bad or should be pushed aside I just think it should be analyzed at all angles and all messages are talked about and seen not just one specific one!)

Oh no! I’m sorry! I was the only girl with 7 brothers when I “matured” and my dad is old school asian (born and raised in Vietnam..... AND catholic!!!) so my time wasn’t great either, in fact I blocked out most of it. Hopefully girls today won’t have as many problems 🤗

I mean, to be fair the boyband really only have 2-3 songs with one that gets overplayed but. I took that as gentle poking at many boybands being “One Hit Wonders” verses a lack of creativity on Pixar’s part.

slightly off topic but GOD YES that last song was euphoria the first time I listened! Only thing I woulda changed is making the chanting a little bit louder

Nobody turns my tummy like you

People are reading into the movie too much. If you think about it, IT'S A KIDS MOVIE. And a pixar one at that which always has a moral or smth relatable to it. I'm so disappointed at how people hate the movie just bc of reasons that are just illogical at this point. I agree that thirteen year olds going to a concert themselves is a bit of a problem tho

The period stuff had me crying 😂 there were so many moments in that movie where I got second hand embarrassment but in a good way, I found myself laughing the whole ride

the panda can be a metaphor for so many things! you like singing but your parents think it's a waste of time to pursue? panda! you can sing for money to raise funds for the concert you wanna see with that- i think the panda is all the things you want to do that your parents won't let you and that not only make you feel nice and are part of who you are, but can also be useful! the fact that everyone thought of sex made me sad honestly but i get that that's probably the ultimate taboo with parents

omg thank you... i am not even 2min in and im like.. do people serious take metaphors as one to one representations. i think it's a cute movie, i think it is amazingly well timed for me - i have an 11yr old girl and whilst we have never had issues communicating about stuff like this, i think its wonderful that these subjects are becoming normalised.

I guess that makes sense, but why do the family members at menopause age turn back into pandas?

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@@justsomegirlwithoutamustache The panda is just a representation of individual desire and the indignation, anger, and frustration that comes with being told you can’t have/do what you want. Mei wants to spend more time with her friends and her mother wants her to stick to her game plan of designated success. Traditionally, men are the breadwinners so women were told to put their ambitions to rest and find a traditionally successful man so the family unit could prosper. I’m not saying there aren’t countless men out there who have had their dreams crushed too but it could explain why the movie only makes women pandas. They never say anything about menopause. It’s just a coincidence that women who are going through menopause and teenagers go through a similar amount of stress because the family unit is changing at those stages. The children are stressed because they are finding themselves and becoming more independent. Adults are stressed because they’re losing their kids and desperately trying to create boundaries and sever their child’s connections to other people to control them. Just a badly written coincidence that I’m sure the writers weren’t thinking about because why would they be thinking about menopause in a children’s movie?

It is irritating at this point for me. Even my folks weren't scared educate me when I hit 13. Better I know this shit than be shocked by it and shielded from it.

I got mine when I was 9-10 years old, no one had told me what it was so I hid it thinking that I was dying 💀 I’m sick of people thinking that periods are an ‘adult mature topic’ that kids and teens should be shielded from ever knowing about, which reinforces the shame, hiding and period stigma later on when periods do happen. It even effects how boys view periods, they tend to shame it a lot or make harsh jokes in young teenhood. This hiding and stigma causes a real domino effect, now we’re left with adult guys raging and getting embarrassed about things they don’t even have to worry about, they rage about others even mentioning it (obviously not all men before y’all come at me lol) When I got mine at age 9, I definitely wasn’t a mature adult, so stop making it into such an adult mature and shunned topic, I had the consequences of it and I hope the next youngins won’t have to

I agree. Whole heartily. I was fortunate enough to have a mother who was very opened about it. She never kept it a secret. And when I was 8, when I understood basic biology. My mom really sat me down and talked about it. She wasn't sure when it would happen for me, but she heard some girls got it at 8, so she wanted to be cautious and told me everything I need to know. I admit it was awkward, but my mom wanted me to not be scared when it happens. And she was right, when it happened when I was 12. I knew what it was immediately. I went to her and she had a small bag with all the stuff I needed. Even though my mom was prepared and was preparing me for it. When it came, it was funny how much she fussed about it, panicking slightly, making sure I was equipped with all I needed. Like preparing hot water with a little brown sugar and pack extra, in case. But thinking on it now, I can't help but appreciate it. My experience wasn't scary, because I knew what was happening. And my mom was very open about hers, and so I had some idea what to expect. So yes, I agree it is something that should be talked about to children, especially when they are nearing that age. It is so they won't be afraid. I still don't understand why it is such a taboo to talk about it to children. They are, eventually, going to have to go through the process and experience. They can't be sheltered forever, nor should they be.

I don't agree they all seem far more steeped in their culture then Mei.

@@The1Ryu but they rejected their red panda ancestors to be 'normal/human'. They know more about her culture because they're adults.

@@Jaxxy35 They didn't reject their ancestors they revere them. All Mei's attachment and connection to the culture comes from them. Everything that Mei loves/likes that sets her apart from her family comes from Canadian culture.

Interesting interpretation I've never seen anyone else look at it that way

Ooo interesting i like that interpretation a lot

Pixar is Meilin, their superior company Disney is her mom Ming.

SHE IS A COMMUNIST

Well women don't want this convention broken.

@@The1Ryu says the person who isn't a woman lmao

@@tuxtitan780 says the person who doesn't have a real argument lmao

Exactly. But later on when the topic comes up, he's going to be much more open for dealing with it positively.

there's like a subjection of people who don't want women to be human and able to be normal for some reason- weird especially cuz the world wouldn't exist without them-

@@thecyclopsofrainbowleaf I don't think it's that I'd say it's prolly more like cancel culture type, cuz a lot of the complaints are about sexualization which yk cancel culture says about everything

@@-nyantic-son156 i think people are perverts and they desperately want to blame the world around them-

Yessss!! I was never into boy bands but it was VERY authentic to my cringey teen fangirling

Sexualising minors is never ok.

​@@pacoramon9468they were never sexualised tho??

​@@uh09I agree we should Normalise wmn obsessing over old men. And If they have "naughty feeling", they shouldn't repress it but explore those feelings with older adults

I've been told about it since I was 5. I saw my mom in pain one day and asked what was wrong and she explained everything

I'm the youngest, so I was about 7 when my sister was 12. She got hers and when my parents were going to have a conversation about it with her they also made me sit in on it. When I was younger I hated them for this, but when I got mine at around 14 I actually appreciated being told earlier.

Fr, I grew up sort of always knowing about it, since I had an older sister and a mother who both had periods and weren't shy about it. And I'm glad they did, if my parents had waited until I started my period for me to learn about it, I probably wouldn't have believed them. "So you're saying I'm bleeding because women, including you, have a painful bloody transformation every 28 days like a werewolf and y'all have just been hiding it from me this whole time? Is this like when y'all lied to me about Santa and Jesus? Fool me once, shame on you, full me twice, shame on me. Now, I'm bleeding to death and y'all got to take me to the hospital rn."

I got my period when I was 10, too, and got blood on the chair at school that I had to clean up without drawing attention.

It doesn't seem like it's in media as much because it's less relevant to you. Like how when you buy a car, suddenly that car seems the most popular. Trust me, there is a ton of media about periods and how normal it is. Even just thinking of sitcoms I grew up watching. I don't know that I recall a scene about growing facial hair

@@DirtyPrancing No…there really isn’t. It may be mentioned in a sitcom, but not often and usually it’s written by a dude to make a joke about “hormonal women” etc. Verses something actually for tween girls either going through it or about to go through it. All the backlash shows how NOT normalized it is-adult women are literally stuck seeing what Normal Periods vs OMG See A Doctor Before Your Organs Fuze?! on social media chains (if they’re lucky.) Sex ed doesn’t talk about periods, either-often just STDs and broad strokes pregnancy to scare girls into abstinence. But not something that’s more Health than Sexual Health. And male puberty gets A LOT of media to the point it’s practically it’s own subgenre in coming of age stories (which are still predominantly about (white) boys, not girls (certainly not chinese disaspora ones or any other woc). Boys dreading Voice Changes. Boys wanting facial hair and armpit hair because it’s Manly (Ed Edd and Eddy literally had them glue carpet to their pits to fake puberty over a decade ago). Lost count of how many Boys’ Coming Of Age or Family Movies With Brothers had them pasting life size supermodel posters above their beds, or sneaking playboy magazines to their buddies. …yet everyone is LE GASP!! SHOCKED!!! That MeiMei doodled a crush kissing and cuddling her or as a shirtless merman, and that Turning Red said “Red Peony” and showed a package of clean pads onscreen. Both of these are NORMAL. But society (especially men) by&large can’t handle or even tell the difference between Female Health and Female Sexual Awakening and calls it all “sexualized” and the rest “boring.”

ok as a teenager in high school im gonna say people tend to overreact on puberty for me my voice just got deeper and i started getting facial hair, i still dont understand why people find it wierd or uncomfortable its quite literally just part of life and it just happens theres not really much wierd or uncomfortable unconfortable things happening

On the contrary, I think they puberty needs to be normalized in media...because it's a thing we all gotta do and it isn't shameful. Not to mention how difficult a stage of life it is.

@@DirtyPrancing Can you list the shows and movies that talk about periods?

Phoenix Wright is such a good game series, big W to Domee Shi.

LETS GOOOOO

Don't think it's about her culture

@@_yoshivolts_115 Red is a symbol of good luck in Chinese culture and brides wear red on their weddings, but sure honey, you know a lot about the experiences of the creators of the movie.

It's not just relatable to people like Mei either. I'm a 20 year old white English man and I found it unbearably relatable. It's called good writing, Twitter.

I wouldn't really say that. You cant just undermine a huge demographic of people that might actually have legit complaints about the movie under and umbrella and just say "oh you dont like it because it isnt targeted to you." while that's kinda true, I can still _watch_ and judge the movie.

@@encycl07pedia- Dude 💀

@@mint5438 Oh I mean I agree you can still make your criticisms on the movie. I didn’t mean to say it’s immune from criticism because it’s target audience is younger, you’re totally right

@@encycl07pedia- 1. Why is artwork in quotations kinda confused. And it was kind of the point that she was being overbearing. 2. A lot of mothers and daughters feel comfortable sharing that space together, especially when you’re younger and figuring out periods. 3. I did that when I was a kid. I know like twenty other people who also did that. A very common experience to have.

@@encycl07pedia- this movie isn't for you, just leave. A lot of 13 year olds, did that. When I was 13, I did things like that

You're completely right. This is one of Pixar's more thematically heavy films. I can really only think of a few children's films that dealt with so many complex and mature themes like motherhhood, puberty, self actualization, familial piety, friendship, blossoming sexuality, and the cyclic nature of trauma, yet it still manages to be a light and fun watch.

GOD 100%. nail on the head

omg thanks this whats in my mind but i couldnt turn into words

@@jfsygijc5587 agreed

I didn’t even realize that. Nice spot 👍

I don't know what it is with mass culture, (I mean aside from sexism) but it reliably hates and mocks the interests of teenage girls. think about all the hate Twilight got, the insane cartoonish hate that Justin Bieber got, that Britney Spears received, etc. Turning Red is just another example of this. It sucks cause I see a ton older woman who engage in this same behavior, like its that embedded in our cultural psyche and that uncritically examined.

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Thanks! I grew up knowing where babies come from, we talked openly about these things, and I was never left wondering. I am grateful that we were so open. Even my little brother knows these things and he's super understanding when we have a period. We also talk openly about mental health and are very communicative.

@@egg00737 😂

@@nobinary2296 the only thing I didn’t tell him is how babies are made/born and told him he can ask again in a few years. As for my girl, lol, my S/O 1st said babies come out of the belly button and the proceeds to say they’re pooped out… I mean… technically yes and no… but no… and she gets too embarrassed about these talks and says she’ll never do “it” because she’s Ace. Then I asked her what she thinks that means… “you don’t want to do ‘it’…” I told her that that wasn’t completely true. I told her that there was more to it than just “Not wanting to” and since she hasn’t gone through puberty yet and to wait until she’s a little older (she has a lot of lgbt+ friends and probably feels like being “normal” will make them not like her anymore. Lol, sorry for ranting for a sec, but, yes, we need to be more open and honest with kids and we might see a lot less “mistakes” happening and misinformation from the guesswork of friends and men who have no idea/clue about periods/sex for women

Glad to see parents like you are becoming more common. My mom is similar in a way. We had a rule; "You can say any word you want around me as long as you fully understand the meaning." (excluding slurs and things like that) This leads to me doing lots of research on words and their roots, origins, etc. Great way to educate kids on themselves, the world around them, and academics.

THIS ^^^^^^

Thank you for articulating my thoughts exactly!

Lmao, you don't have to be Asian/ specifically not white to notice that Mei's parents have high generational expectations of her. It is common in any culture that you honor your parents sacrifices to get you where you are. Of course its more prevalent in families that recently immigrated/1st 2nd 3rd gen immigrants, that you work extra hard to keep what they sacrificed so much for, but anyone and everyone can in some way relate to that, not just 1 era of 1 culture. Idk, just don't turn off that part of conversation just because you've been told that, as a [race] person, your voice doesn't matter/ or that you're too inferior to possibly understand basic concepts and emotions. But otherwise, yeah i 100% agree with ya Mei having fun unapologetically as her panda self is not sexual in any way. If they wanted to talk about the whole fanart drawing scenes or the 4 town stuff, thats different, but nothing in the movie even comes close to graphic

Yes, seriously! Mei's ancestor stopped the war using mythical red panda powers.... are these people implying she used sex to save her village? Like a village prostitute or something? The way they jump to conclusions, especially sexually-based conclusions to "protect the children" screams paranoia and stupidity.

@@Adamant_Adam Yeah I know it’s not an exclusive experience to Asian families I was just saying that the way it is presented in this film may not be as easy to spot for someone who is not Asian just because there are subtle differences. Like with Encanto, I’m afro Latina so there were a lot of things that even though the generational trauma resonates with lots of people even if they’re not Latinx, the way it’s presented in the film is most clear to people who ARE Latinx, especially with subtle details. That’s why I said I can’t speak in the *details* of Mei’s panda symbolizing Chinese culture because I’m not Chinese or Asian at all and therefore I don’t know those intimate details that would lead to Mei’s panda being that kind of metaphor.

He doesn't even seem to realise that current Russia isn't communist so i wouldn't count on it

Like I can see how he made the communist connection. Red, communism... er China? Uhhhhh. And after that I'm at a loss. Like I get how the connection was made, but to think the connection was correct is just silly

@@BigWheel. but even that an issue.through. i know.you didnt meat it like.that but, a china canadian is not the same as a chinese person from China.

Probably not. Some people on the internet say really stupid shit

@@woaddragon well yeah, but I'm trying to grasp at straws here because it's such an unfoundable idea.

Dude people were showing their true colors of just how racist they are when some of the brain dead were complaining about China somehow forced this movie and then the woke idiots somehow mixing up the cultures of Japan, Korea and Vietnam with China.

@@Flourikum it’s so funny because this is about Chinese Canadians. It takes place in Toronto. I grew up there, especially in Chinatown and it is nothing close to how China is. I don’t understand how China would have forced this movie? And why? It isn’t promoting anything besides “growing up is healthy and normal”

@@Flourikum It's because right wingers are justifiably very defensive right now because of the knowledge of critical race theory and all the insane stuff leftists pull to try to brainwash todays youth through the school system and media. "Give an inch, they take a mile" is a pretty much proven phrase at this point, and it's pretty clear that the left don't just want to "let people do whatever they want in their own bedrooms" and leave it at that. And before you say anything, the ideas of critical race theory are being thaught to kids even though there is no class for kids called critical race theory because teachers are often told to learn about it and it's being silently promoted by schools with leftist teachers and principals. Otherwise you wouldn't be so pissed off about states banning it if it were non-existant.

Ya they just emd up thinking they're dying or something is wrong with them when they start and go into panic

I called my mom when it first started and told her I had to go to the hospital.😅 In her defense I was extremely young when I got it, I don’t think she thought I’d get it at that age. None of my friends did til years later.

Carrie Whites mom vibes

@@KingOfGaymes this reference and your profile pic, youre cool

@@melbelly98 my friend had it with 9 years old, mine only came when i was 12, it was on my birthday and i was at church😭

That's what I thought too

@@TheEllieBree yeah I also think that's an ulterior implied "issue" that the karens are whining about it doesn't represent parents as omnipotent all knowing all powerful immortal gods it represents them as what they are: human fallible and very often wrong

yeah i am indian and i related to a lot of the situations in the movie such as the mom being afraid of her mother and then applying the same pressure to her child that her mother gave her.

as a daughter to old school mexican parents i could highly relate to this movie as well

This movie is important for Christians to re open their eyes. You guys who are in this dreamy state of loving colorful animation will let things go. The devil will come before Jesus as an angel of light and decieve people to take the mark of the beast. His motto is "you are your own God." As to flee from the one true God. Take with this as you will

honestly i feel this

honestly i feel this

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That's my problem with these wannabe critics making rants about something they haven't seen and are trying to sound smart, seriously half these guys vids boil down to anti woke junk, nobody wil see this film because I don't like it and "this is the reason why this type of media is dying" it's absolutely nothing of real substance and can barely be called a review it's just being toxic while trying to sound smart.

Toxic fans, can't get rid of them even if you tried. They are part of the Fandom that bonds a community together. Any Fandom, any community, they are there. Sure they are a migraine, but it's best to ignore them and don't let them get under your skin.

Cope harder.

@@The1Ryu cope1 /kōp/ Learn to pronounce See definitions in: All Ecclesiastical Building verb (of a person) deal effectively with something difficult. "his ability to cope with stress" You cope harder, sir.

@@roxassora2706 I'm sorry this a-tisic screeching doesn't mean anything to me.

The final battle looks like boss material for the next Kingdom Hearts game

I kinda liked that final battle: I felt it coming as an argument from the start of the film, and since they have GIANT RED PANDAS I mean…I was honestly hoping they’d be part of that confrontation and they were 😅 (Call it a harmless “if you can Why Not??”)

Furthermore, Ming’s Red Panda is tall because she repressed her emotions so much and so it manifested as a kaiju red panda. That literally sounds like grounds for an Unversed.

If people need kids films to teach them how to deal with reality then that says a lot about them

I think he just didn't like how this trope shows parent-child conflicts reconciling too quickly. Which I kinda agree with. I think Encanto did this trope right! Where after Abuela apologizes, we see the family spend several months working and slowly getting along better.

I had a confrontation with my mother when I was 19. She found a picture where I drew her as a big monster. She didn't ask why I thought this of her, but I told her. She was furious I held grudges and was under the impression I need to forgive her all bad things she had ever done. There were no apologies from either side, but she did threaten to stop supporting me financially. I'd be marooned abroad with 0 life experience in a country where I didn't have right to work. I had no one and would have been dead within months. And this is the story of how confronting my mother could have led to my death, but I was too young to even realise it at the time. The "Healed family" is a cute trope, but let's be honest. If children were to stand up like Mei did, they'd get anihilated.

@@user-tq1xt2ct8s I agree. Your best option is to flee when you're the child. I ran away at 18. Both my parents were blacklisted so my father wanted to use me as a second chance at getting loans once I turned 18. Negligent father with an inferiority complex, angry stressed out mom who had to be the breadwinner, the typical trope. I walked on eggshells throughout those years and the lies I crafted had only become more and more intricate to avoid beatings and insults. High school was my only source of happiness. The resentment I harbor for my mother and the absolute disgust I felt towards my father still hasn't subsided. If anything, now that I'm done with college (graduating this year) and have a good source of income, my fear of them has only evolved into hatred. I'm now in my mid-twenties and I don't see myself reconciling with them anytime soon. I'm honestly better off without them.

SHE IS A COMMUNIST

umm the mum literally thought mei got her period so you cant have not thought about it

@@namjoonie936 I think their point was that they thought the scene was another one of those "funny misunderstanding" moments that movies do, not a metaphor for periods.

@@can0cringe oh definitely

@@namjoonie936 yeah the other person points it out perfectly :]

@@gremlindave Gremlin Dave… That’s a fire ass name you got there.

I also think that the panda represents puberty in its entirety not just periods , like there’s more to puberty then just periods and it seems some people can’t seem to understand that… which is why we need more movies like that!

Aw. We need more of these wonderful men to admit their dad titles. :/

as a 40 something who spent the 80's watching dozens of coming of age movies all based on boys.. E.T., goonies, stand by me, etc., etc. I can assure you girls and women have done it for generations, so it's hysterical that anyone is screaming "can't relate" the second it's about a girl. again default=male, and if it's female=niche genre! it's insane. Coming of age, being uncomfortable, body changes. It's not that hard to get.

i see what you did there

Actually kids still talk like this now lmao

@@Slipperyslab well no actually, 50% of kids now talk like that while the other 50%....... barely exist

Despite I was only 1 and half year old in 2002 I understand that

@@JonathanGaeta I was nine and while there is some modernized slang that doesn’t fit, the cringe behavior was on par for me and my friends

Only they swear like barflies.

yeah like I dont see how the panda cant have more than one meaning, it was a metaphor for periods for just one gag and thats it but people are dumb nowadays

@@danielvallejo8764 yeah or rather a metaphor for puberty as a whole, with the weight gain, hair growth, smell etc.

Right? Rosebud in Citizen Kane was a metaphor... but it was also STILL A SLED.

@@tylociraptor8131 a classic

According to the director, the red panda represents puberty and things we inherit from our moms and how we choose to deal with them. The creators mentioned "hey, we're actually gonna talk about periods in this movie," and everyone went nuts and thought "this movie is ABOUT periods!"