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Turntables $250 -$300: Shoot-out & Reviews. AT-LP120 + Pro-Ject Primary + TEAC TN-300 

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Dearest Friends :-D !
Great to see all of you again!!! I have bought with my own monies and assembled this triumvirate of three affordable turntables which are under consideration of anybody intending to spend about US$250-$300 on a turntable :-)
They are the:
1. AudioTechnica AT-LP120,
2. Pro-Ject Primary,
3. TEAC TN-300.
There is actually a fourth one, the U-Turn Orbit prefitted with a Grado Black cartridge, bought directly online from U-Turn, but is not included in this test because of its inavailability in other countries (and its high cost incurred if one were to ship it in, plus voltage considerations) for most friends living outside of North America.
There is a certain degree (pricepoint) at which products in an industry becomes good, and of sufficient quality to do its job.
Vinyl sounds better than digital, and this is what is enticing many people to look into vinyl playback. I do not want to recommend or buy a system for my friend, and then have him use it and find it sounding worse than digital, worse than his MP3 spotify songs streamed from his handphone. There must be this compelling reason of having analogue sound, of avoiding the pre-ring, ring, post-ring, time smear and phase shift of digital; and that it must sound better than digital.
1. It must sound better than digital (avoiding the ring/smear),
2. It must provide an analogue sound compelling enough by itself by merits that it keeps the new vinyl adopter to continue this hobby. Because vinyl playback can be expensive and troublesome: vinyl records are expensive, vinyl records need to be cleaned, need to be stored properly, they take up space in our rooms, they become heavy, one needs time to take a vinyl out, put it down on the platter, and spin it, and lift off the cartridge at the end of playback... all the "hassle" must not inhibit new vinyl adopters from continuing the hobby. Hence the vinyl analogue sound availed, MUST be compelling enough.
If the promised land of better sound through vinyl analogue is to be availed to him, I will get him either the Rega Planar 1 or Technics SL1200. If finances permit me to do so now, I will save up a bit more and get him either of this later. Cars, ... in the car industry, there are certain cars which are too cheap and poorly made, that it is better that I rather proudly and confidently take the train or bus, than buy that certain cheap car and have myself uncomfortable and coping with quality issues. There is the Tata Nano, in its history, and in its inital stage of creation, to be the cheapest car in the car industry.
But later after it is launched, even the not-so-rich people who can afford it, avoid getting the Nano, they are avoiding it and discovering it is suboptimal in the scope of all things considered. These people appreciate quality, and thus Tato Nano has never been doing well, and now dying off.
There is a price point. I find that, as with the case with vinyl playback, it is about $449 (MSRP in the U.S.) :-). Of course the British have it best as the Planar1 can be bought at GBP249.
At the end of these three turntables' testing and auditions, explorations, and living with them for three months since March 2017, I have no choice but to guide all of you friends who are looking at spending US$300 on a turntable, to look at the versatile, solidly-built, and legendary SL1200Mk3/Mk3D/Mk5 easily available from Japan. Many of my friends all over the world had bought from hifido.co.jp and rakuten. Hifido especially gets my mention because of their excellent service, supreme packaging and timely delivery (which should cost about US$60-80 depending on your locality). A simple step-down transformer to 100V has served me and my friends very well, and all our decks have been giving, day-in day-out, sterling performance (steady speed control of course, courtesy of the advanced and trusty quartz-lock direct drive mechanism) and with more to come always... as brilliant cartridge upgrades shine through along our journey!!!
I do have a Mk5 bought and hand-carried back from hifido in Dec 2015, which you can see on my past video :-D!!!
Any decision to get one, you can email in English language to hifido01@hifido.co.jp , they reply in English and payment is via secure bank credit card page. Other avenues are rakuten.co.jp, and of course from DiskUnion Shibuya branch, if you are there and are ready to get it packed for hand-carry (house the platter separately in a safe and secure box and foam in your checked-in luggage to reduce the weight of the carry-on SL1200 deck, i have done it three times).
Get one good deck, a SL1200Mk3/Mk3D and be done, for many many years ahead: ENJOY brilliant sonics with affordable cartridges like Grado Black, Goldring Elektra, Grado Green, Nagaoka MP-110, and couple them with the Schiit Mani.
And simply enjoy the rest of your great vinyl'ing journey!!!
Best Regards,
~ ian :-D

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@popcornsamurai
@popcornsamurai 5 лет назад
Wow, I learned so much from this one. You really are helping people all over the world understand this very complicated world.
@ricknelsonm
@ricknelsonm 7 лет назад
The gentlemen in this video, "Ian", is an honest, kind and honorable person. Thank you!!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear Brother in-Vinyl, Thank you for your kind message. May you enjoy a wonderful vinyl journey, ~ ian :-D
@ralex3697
@ralex3697 5 лет назад
He is one of the best reviewers on You Tube
@georgekrutz8292
@georgekrutz8292 6 лет назад
One of the most intelligent and comprehensive reviews I've seen. Thank you.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Vinyl Brother, thank you for your kind comments and time writing in. Thank you very much :-) do enjoy a joyous vinyl'ing journey ahead!! Let's go!! Warmest Regards my friend, ~ ian.
@yupimbackk
@yupimbackk 7 лет назад
Lan, You sir make my day everyday. So glad that there are people like you in this world Friend.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Yo JBL fan!!! (I can see that very obviously :-D ) Thank you for coming by and catching up!!! Yes let's make the vinyl world strong and ever more engaged and thrilled!!! Hope you have fun!.. I am thankful for your support and encouragement. Warmest Regards my friend!.. ~ ian
@BarakaPDub
@BarakaPDub 7 лет назад
Okay Ian, you deserve an Academy Award for this one!!! The editing alone explains why we haven't seen a video from you in a long time. You can take the rest of the year off after doing this one as I am really impressed. I had not seen the TEAC before and thought it would be a solid performer based on appearances. Wow! Was I ever wrong. This was really a nice dissection of the three and I liked the blending of the audio between the Technica and Pro-Ject. You got a good feel for their comparative performance. I also liked how you then when onto compare the Technica against the SL-1200G. After our short correspondence, I can't wait for what is about to unfold but I think the models picked again will not compare to the SL-1200G.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
BarakaPDub Dearest Paul, thank you for your firm support, friendship and camaraderie all this time... Love you guys... it has been really difficult. I had decided to cancel this project midway...but you guys' persistence, presence and encouragement pulled me through to the end. Thank you Paul. Yours, ian.
@MASTERVETEAM4
@MASTERVETEAM4 7 лет назад
The Teac's design is reminiscent of a PL-12D's, a really good budget deck back in the 70s. The only problem is that because of its small pulley, it is overly reliant on its belt to maintain belt stability. I suspect that the belt Teac uses is much worse than the one Pioneer provided It's cheap DC motor doesn't help either; the Pioneer had 4-pole hysteresis motor. The rest of the Turntable is fairly well made, I was excited to see this design make a come back because, having grown up on a PL-112D, I am quite fond of this design. It isn't high end by any mean but it can sound good in its own way.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Thank you Mario brother for catching up!! Thank you for your time writing in and speaking of your love for vinyl playback and the equipment so used, and which have guided you through the years AND giving you so much FOND MEMORIES :-D !!!! Such stories are so warm and best to read!!!! Warmest Regards Brother!!!!
@MASTERVETEAM4
@MASTERVETEAM4 7 лет назад
Always a pleasure to watch your videos and comment! I heartily agree that a used 1200 is a better choice at that price. I wish they were cheaper in Canada. Another good choice would be a used Rega P2, preferably the more recent version. Keep up the good work!
@saintjabroni
@saintjabroni 6 лет назад
HiViNyws channel I respect you.
@jps_204
@jps_204 5 лет назад
Excellent review. Probably the best product review ive seen on youtube. Educated, fair, and full of useful information. Cheers from Canada!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 5 лет назад
Dear Buddy Joseph, thank you!!! And do have for yourself a wonderful journey ahead with many friends👋😄🤗😄🤗🤠🤠😄🇨🇦🎶🎵🎶🎶!!! See you and enjoy your weekend!!!
@slavikcc
@slavikcc 7 лет назад
Awesome review, Ian! I thought I'd add some thoughts to the turntables you reviewed: -The Teac TN-300 is built by the Ya Horng Electronics Co. in Taiwan, who also built turntables for Akai (the BT-500), Denon (DP-300), and Fluance RT-80/RT-81. There are initial problems with speed accuracy, which explains the high wow/flutter that you're hearing. According to a couple audio salespeople I spoke with in Canada, the TN-300 has been preceded by the TN-400 as the former is no longer being used by Teac and will simply sell them until they're all gone. -The Audio Technica LP-120 is built at Hanpin in Taiwan, who also made the Pioneer PLX-500, Crosley C-200, a couple Reloop models, etc. It's under the Hanpin OEM model DJ-45. And yes, the build-in phono pre-amp cannot be fully bypassed even when switched off so people who wants to get better sound quality will have to physically disable it and then use a proper phono pre-amp. Oh, and don't get me started with Audio Technica's LP60 (the same as the Denon DP-29F/Pioneer PL-990/Sony PS-LX300)... they're totally rife with major problems. -The Pro-Ject Primary is basically the Elemental on a full-sized conventional plinth and it has the same limitations as the latter. For those who own one can upgrade to a better stylus at least, though the anti-skating mechanism is a spring built right inside the tonearm base.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear Brother :-D... I am very happy to see you again!! How are you doing? I still remember you coming by and always catching up on your trips to Japan, record shopping of course...and your MP110 replacing your bronze. I read with delight your posts as you are a gentle leader in your forum too!!! The Ya Horng in Taiwan, Hanpin in China... and yes the Primary attempts to replace the Elemental with a full-sized plinth and three feet.... and thank you for telling me about its anti-skating mechanism being spring-built and not magnetic-based. And of course, your inside news on teac replacing the tn-300 soon. Currently I am in Japan with my wife and son :-D, i am writing to you at 9am from Hotel MyStays Ochanomizu and will be going out with wife soon to have a coffee and a simple breakfast...because going out to the DiskUnions around here for record shopping! And I still remember you so kindly alerting me to the metal and punk there which I missed out filming on one of the tour videos 1 year ago (i only filmed the Jazz branch (opposite AudioUnion) and the general branch(just besides the train station) :-D!!! Warmest Regards to you and your family too, ~ ian.
@OldMusicOnVinyl1
@OldMusicOnVinyl1 2 года назад
For years, I had a wide-eyed, childish desire for the LP120 as my first turntable upgrade. When I first saw this video in about 2017-18, your analysis alone was enough to knock it straight off my shopping list. I still enjoy checking out this GREAT video every once in a while. Thank you Ian for your expertise and honesty!
@leonthesleepy
@leonthesleepy 2 года назад
Isnt this a little outdated now since the LP120 is discontinued and the LP120X has fixed most of the issues?
@OldMusicOnVinyl1
@OldMusicOnVinyl1 2 года назад
@@leonthesleepy this is correct, however there's still some demand for used original LP120s because of the fact that they even have tonearm height adjustment (even though Ian here clearly shows it's off-whack, forcing you to correct VTA yourself by stacking a platter mat or two), and they're abundant, meaning you can find them for half or even a third of their retail price. I do acknowledge that the LP120X addresses much of the complaints about the original LP120, however the plinth is still plastic, and who knows if the LP120X uses the same flexy resonant ABS as the LP120...regardless the plinth and platter are still undamped, so make of that what you will. The next model up, the LP140XP, has height adjustment, except it retails for $100 more than did the original LP120. For some, that's peanuts, but for a few, that's a large amount of extra money, so they'd rather hunt for the bargain: a used original LP120. So given historical context... Yes, this is still relevant.
@richardriley4415
@richardriley4415 7 лет назад
A very needed video. I almost purchased a Teac Tn-300 when I first got back into vinyl based on just looks alone. I'm glad that with my new TT I hired a professional to set it up.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Richard Riley Dear Richard....great to see you again 😄✌✌and hope to see more videos made by you!!
@karmaneh
@karmaneh 3 года назад
I absolutely love your no BS style. First class. Off to find what you recommend for beginners. Great job.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 3 года назад
Thank you Sir!✌😅I'm happy to be of help!!!👍👍👍👍enjoy your vinyl analogue journey Buddy!!!🎶🧘‍♂️🙏🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🤗🤗🤗
@silicone6827129
@silicone6827129 7 лет назад
Ian, you are one hack of a fella. Excellent review with no frills and very informative. Unlike some reviews, yours is direct and easy to understand even to a rookie. Excellent work.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
silicone6827129 Dear Brother in-Vinyl 🤗, thank you for your kindness and good heart. I receive them in gratitude. You too have a joyous and wondrous vinyl'ing journey ahead with more and more friends😄✌. Warmest Regards, ~ ian.
@cpta03
@cpta03 7 лет назад
Thank you Ian for another extremely informative video. When I got back into vinyl several years ago, I purchased an AT-LP120. I was never completely happy with it and now I know why. With the help of your videos, I replaced the cartridge on my old Sansui SR-2050E turntable with a Grado Black and recently a Nagaoka MP110 and I have been very pleased with the old turntable's performance! Thanks again and I look forward to your next shoot out. Have a wonderful time in Japan!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dearest Steven, I am sorry I missed your message. Thank you very, very much for catching up with me, and yes, I had a good family time in Japan with my wife and my in-laws. Enjoy your Sansui SR-2050E turntable!!!!!! Black and MP-110!!! Yes!!! Warmest Regards Brother Steven, ~ ian.
@MiljenMaletin1212977
@MiljenMaletin1212977 7 лет назад
Great review, as always. I, as a vinyl lover, really love to watch your videos. Informative, entertaining and sincere. Way to go Ian!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Yo Miljen!!! How are you!!! :-D Sorry for my 3days' late reply. Very happy to see you brother again! Fyi, I am currently working on my recent Japan trip video, and also working hard on the P1 vs DebutCarbon vs HS-PX500 shootout... :-D hahahah... you are the first to know here about the addition of the hs-px500 in the shootout. Warmest Regards my friend~~ ian.
@godbwu
@godbwu 7 лет назад
Outstanding work my friend! As always, just the right unbiased information many would find useful! Cheers!
@Agamemnon2
@Agamemnon2 7 лет назад
Your thoroughness does you credit. I was pointed towards this video on the Audiokarma forum where I was pondering whether to buy a new or used turntable to complete my hifi system, and you have certainly helped me make up my mind in this regard.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Agamemnon2 Dear Friend, thank you for catching up👋😄 and your kindest support. I will endeavour to work hard for all of you friends. Really love you guys. It is 6am Sunday morning now...getting up to continue work on the current shoot-out between the Sony PS-HX500 vs Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC vs Rega Planar 1. May you find that SL1200 on hifido.co.jp .... i just saw two Mk5s being released 6 days ago, and had just been snapped up again yesterday😄👌. Have a good weekend my friend!!!
@ron6706
@ron6706 6 лет назад
Thank you for this video. I almost bought the Teac. Keep up the great work on your vinyl videos!!!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear vinyl buddy 👋😄thank you and have a lovely day/evening! Thank you for catching up. 🤗🎵🎶!! Vinyl analog bliss...here we go!
@tlaren4
@tlaren4 3 года назад
I have had a teac for 6 years ran a denon dl 110 cart on it it worked ok for a few years but all of sudden went to shit wouldn't play hardly anything right no matter how close I had it dialed in , what cart I had on it , I would just buy something else something else .
@MarkTillotson
@MarkTillotson 6 лет назад
Excellent comprehensive review, with all important measurements so often lacking in other hifi reviews.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Buddy Mark, thank you for coming by and lending your kindness and support. May we all have a wondrous vinyl'ing journey!!!! Analog bliss!!
@han_psolo
@han_psolo Год назад
By far the most detailed turntable comparison i've ever seen in yt. Great job!
@jeppisrockcity
@jeppisrockcity 6 лет назад
THanks for probably the best vinyl channel on youtube! Greetings from Finland
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Tommy Forsman Dear Buddy from Finland!!! Thank you for your amazing kind words and encouragement👋😄!! I endeavour to continue doing my best for the community. May you continue too to have enjoy vinyl analogue bliss in the happiest country in the world : 🇫🇮💪😍
@sawyerthereal
@sawyerthereal 6 лет назад
Your knowledge is amazing! Thank you so much for sharing it with us! Thanks to this great review, detailed and easy to understand( at least for a newbie like myself) I just ordered from Hifido and it was a very good experience! Can't wait to receive my Mk5!! Love your channel!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
NO WONDER!!! :-D I went onto Hifido's website yesterday and saw TWO SL1200Mk5s being released for sale two days ago, and ONE had already been swiftly tagged as "sold"!!! SO IT IS YOU!!!! CONGRATULATIONS BROTHER!!!! Hahaha... you have got a great deal on that!!... only about 39,600yen I calculated after deducting the 8% Japanese tax!!! Fantastic brother!! Mk3Ds come along pretty often... but it is the Mk5s that are a bit rarer nowadays, and you have gotten one!!!! Sorry I can't hide my excitement for you! Really happy for you BUDDY!!! Hope you either update here again or make a video of your unboxing! Coz Hifido's packaging is just out of this world!!!! Man, you have one!!! Faintful, excited!!! ~ ian.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
....and i noticed that both units lacks the additional counterweight for really heavy cartridges, and the rubber mat...and that is why they are not listed as 49,800yen (as usual for the Mk5s) :-D!!! But not to worry! just go to ebay: www.ebay.com/itm/Technics-TECHNICS-RGS0008-Turntable-Genuine-Rubber-mat-for-SL-1200MK5-MK6-japan/121904976055?epid=2255545746&hash=item1c621a50b7:g:peUAAOSwzgRWzpZx and get a rubber mat!!! Remember to get a stepdown transformer to 100HZ :-D! I have one too! Warmest regards Buddy!!! ~ ian
@JacobFrey
@JacobFrey 7 лет назад
Ian, you have produced another excellent review and video. Thank you for being thorough and unbiased! -------- The TEAC started off so promising! I was so disappointed to hear about the speed issues. I guess it's easy to understand now that TEAC's money was spent on the aesthetics and not on the electronics.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Jacob Frey Hi Jacob!! Yes it starteqd off most promising indeed! Fit and feel best of the three...but, it didn't turn out well in the electronics (power supply/motor)... Brother, thank you for coming by....😄sorry for my late reply. It is 6:48am now in Singapore. Have a great weekend too brother!!
@badhabitz69
@badhabitz69 7 лет назад
Love your videos Ian and you your passion!!!
@curlycob5033
@curlycob5033 7 лет назад
Thank you so much. What a splendid review of these turntables. Such an eye-openner!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Curly Cob Dear Friend, you are very welcomed🤗!! Let's enjoy our vinyl records with more and more friends!! It is a warm and friendly vinyl community we have. I really love it!! Warmest Regards my friend!!!
@fabriziovigni
@fabriziovigni 6 лет назад
Great review!!! Thanks for all the time and passion you dedicate to help people choose the best product for the money! You're the man! Cheers from Brazil!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Fabrizio Vigni Thank you Fabrizio👋😄!!! I am happy to help. May you enjoy your vinyl journey!!more and more friends enjoying top analogue music for less money!!! Spend wisely and quality one can live long with happily ever after!!! Hi five💪😄✌✌✌✌✌
@goodboid
@goodboid 2 года назад
Fantastic comparison! Thank you for making this video.
@ivaraaroy
@ivaraaroy 6 лет назад
Your reviews are legendary, and this one is no exception.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Ivar Dear Ivar, i am happy to see you again🤗. Thank you for your kind words. How are you doing? Warmest Regards!.. (I am on a short 4-day trip to Tokyo and will be travelling back to Singapore tonight. Got some stuffs for a few friends.)
@Nubben100
@Nubben100 7 лет назад
Excellent review as always Ian!!! Thank you!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear Brother Henrik... :-D thank you yet again for your support, kindness and friendship. Thanks for all the beautiful vinyl records you have sent me!!!! Warmest Regards :-D
@eduardofs6620
@eduardofs6620 7 лет назад
This is what you really can call a review. Very professional. Excellent!!!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Eduardo FS Thank you Sir. May you have a wonderful vinyl'ing journey 💪💪💪😄😄😄!!! Warmest Regards, ~ ian.
@averagejay2008
@averagejay2008 7 лет назад
Truly enjoy your reviews Ian. Detailed, informative, and fun! You're such a positive dude! I'm just returning to the vinyl game and considered all of these tables before upping my budget slightly and landing on the Planar 1. Truly happy with my Rega as my first step back into vinyl and would love to hear your take on it compared to similar priced offerings from Pro-ject, Music Hall, etc. Thanks for all the work you put into these videos!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
You are right, brother... no choice, that standard of quality for long term ownership and great sound quality have to come slightly higher up... and the Planar 1 is the one. Top quality tonearm and made with superb bearings and tolerances. Best regards my friend!!!... happy listening, all again!!! Welcome back to vinyl record appreciation!!!
@ephone9664
@ephone9664 7 лет назад
Good forensic analysis of the turntables , the good the bad and the ugly, superb looking forward to more
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Envers Phone Hi brother😄🖑 good to see you again!!! Thank you again for your time and friendship. Vinyl playback, onwards we go! I am now standing at level4 of Yodobashi Camera at Akihabara facing the whole rows of cartridges and turntables again😁 2:35pm now in Japan. Warmest Regards, ian.
@markkopernicky3489
@markkopernicky3489 7 лет назад
Hello my friend Ian!! This is Mark from Canada! Excellent video I'm very happy to see you reviewing turntables. I recently bought a new system..it came with the Pro-ject primary turntable and a pair of beautiful Klipsch speakers. it sounds fantastic. I'm glad you also think the Pro-ject primary is the best of the 3. I also looked at several turntables and didn't like the Audio Technica or the TEAC. I think the Ortofon cartridge sounds fantastic so I don't have plans to change it. thank you for your excellent videos..they are very helpful. Your friend, Mark
@sharinglungs3226
@sharinglungs3226 6 лет назад
This is the best and most thorough review I’ve seen. Thanks for this.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Friend, it is okay, we all are part of the growing AND united vinyl community :-D !!!! Whatever kit we own, that's secondary to the friendship we hold!!!!! Vinyl all the way!!!!!!! Warmest Regards and thank you for your kindest time and friendship. ~ ian.
@andrewgillis8572
@andrewgillis8572 6 лет назад
superb info and no time wasted - hip music choices, too
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
andrew gillis Thank you for your kind time and encouragement Buddy Andrew👋😄...nd may you have a good good vinyl'ing journey with lots of friends around you!!🎵🎶🎶🎶
@smoukondeuoter
@smoukondeuoter 2 года назад
Loved the review and also you reminded my years in Singapore: lovely city and peoples!
@austinhunt4260
@austinhunt4260 5 лет назад
Absolutely amazing comparison! Thank you.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 5 лет назад
Thank you vinyl buddy😄😄😄
@InBadTaste11
@InBadTaste11 6 лет назад
Man this guy really knows what he's doing, great informative video that demonstrates the flaws of these lower end turn tables. Thanks
@InBadTaste11
@InBadTaste11 6 лет назад
I was also wondering if you can review the Fluance RT-81 and how it stacks up against these turntables?
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Brother in-Vinyl, thank you for your kind words and support :-D. I wish for you a merry vinyl'ing journey ahead too, have a happy 2018 and may vinyl rocks through the year!!! :-D Best, ~ ian. Yes :-) some friends have asked, and I have replied them thus so..... I have considered buying the Fluance RT81 for review, but since it is made in the same OEM company that makes the TEAC TN-300, AT-LP120, Denon DP300f, etc, it would be good enough to have 2 representative 'tables from the OEM stock... apologies if I may offend anybody. I really just want to do my honest humble best... Sorry to any friends again.
@InBadTaste11
@InBadTaste11 6 лет назад
Cheers from Canada, thanks for the quick reply. I did not know all these turntables are made under the same company. From what i understand Fluance is a Canadian company and I like to support local :). Also no need to apologize! I understand it must be overkill to buy too many turntables, it just would of been interesting to hear your review on it compared to other youtubers. Thanks for the great work.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Brother :-D, You are right. Fluance is a Canadian company, but the RT81 turntables are made in China by the same OEM company that makes Onkyo CP1050, TEAC TNs, ATs etc as stated. May you have a great weekend my friend :-D!!...
@kb9oak749
@kb9oak749 7 лет назад
Thanks Ian, you saved another generation of vinyl enthusiasts from a waste of money. When I began I started with vintage and have never left. It will be a sad day when I do, but with honest reviews like yours, perhaps not as painful.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Rob Okray Dear Rob!!! Great to see you again!!! I totally agree with you on this matter as i realize painfully that i really cannot recommend them. I spent my own monies wishing to give all of them a fair exploration, examination and audition... and happily wishing to discover something good with quality i can recommend, but in the end, i cannot, and i cannot say untruths. It really hurts me most to say the truths in this video. Thank you my friend, for your generous time and friendship. I am grateful for your kindness. Warmest Regards Rob and family!!🤗
@rockness8784
@rockness8784 7 лет назад
bravo! well done! keep it coming Ian
@BillsBoxOfSound
@BillsBoxOfSound 7 лет назад
Wow. Excellent video and a great way to show that better turntables really are an investment in your listening pleasure and the preservation of your record collection. I even learned a couple of things myself. Great job!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Bill's Box Of Sound Dearest Friend in-Vinyl as always... i am very thankful for your kind words and i aim to continue to do my very best in future for the community and you great lovely friends. 😄May you have a joyful wondrous journey ahead bringing more and more friends into the fold...the warm vinyl world 🤗. Best Regards!!!
@sz004
@sz004 5 лет назад
Great video showing what comparing turntables reallly matters!
@AnalogueInTheUK
@AnalogueInTheUK 7 лет назад
It's always a good day when I receive a notification about your newest video. Thanks, as always, for flying the vinyl flag.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear Brother :-), thank you for catching up at first notice!!! :-D amazing friend you are and camaraderie we share!!! Vinyl, onwards we go!! Warmest Regards!!!
@trentjones2853
@trentjones2853 7 лет назад
This video was by far the most scientific and useful turntable comparison I've ever seen. If you had only tested one of these decks and done a video you would still have made the best review of a turntable I have ever come across. Please do more, I'm sure the entire Vinyl Community would die to see you analyze more decks and their pros and cons. And also, thank you for finally demonstrating to me why the SL 1200 is better than the AT LP120. I never could understand why they were different because they look identical on the outside.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear Trent :-D, it is okay. I really feel very, very, very strongly, that the vinyl community DESERVES THE BEST: The best decks, at the best money, and i have a strong wish that it would be affordable, and would be something great, RELIABLE, BUILT WELL, won't let down the user, GIVES REAL PRIDE OF JOY AND SATISFACTION, something really SOLID, SOUNDLY AND SUPERBLY, *HONESTLY* engineered for US!!! HONESTLY ENGINEERED. Warmest Regards to you Brother in-Vinyl :-D, we catch up again! Have great fun along the way with more and more friends! ~ ian.
@max79444
@max79444 6 лет назад
I have watched several of your other youtube videos and they are all very very impressive and of exceptional quality and enthusiasism
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Thank you Sir for having me around. Best Regards my friend for catching up again!! Thank you :-D
@nelsondesilva3916
@nelsondesilva3916 7 лет назад
And again Ian you've delivered yet another superb review. Apart from the usual very high standard and in depth information along with insane attention to detail I'm still finding out more about all things vinyl thanks to your reviews. You must be exhausted! I will take your advice in regards to the Technics very seriously given the passionate speech. Thanks again Ian and take care.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Nelson De Silva Dear Brother Nelson😄!!! Sorry for my late reply... i touched down Japan on Monday (12th) and yesterday was running around running errands for my parents-in-law😄... and this morning we went to Yokohama to see my sister-in-law's family. Now i am back in Saitama with my parents-in-law. Just now while travelling back from Yokohama, my wife, son and i HAVE to stop by Shibuya station (en route to Saitama) to change trains... but i popped out to DiskUnion Shibuya for just 30minutes, and saw even more SL1200s there😂💪😁... my goodness!! So many! But i guarantee you the service from hifido.co.jp staff is excellent. I have called hifido's senior manager Hirokawa-san this morning and informed him i had officially put up my recommendation out on RU-vid... he was pleasantly shocked 😄! Hahaha... if you spot any units on their website, just email them quickly to quote the unit number of the unit you wish choose. They will reserve it for you and create a credit card secure page for payment. Shipping overseas is swift😄! Packaging is crazy...out-of-this-world packaging!!
@nelsondesilva3916
@nelsondesilva3916 7 лет назад
Thank you sooooooooooo...much Ian! I'm so excited :)
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Nelson De Silva You are very welcomed Brother😁😁😁!!!
@MrZosh
@MrZosh 6 лет назад
Awesome review!!! You did an amazing Job, Ian!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
MrZosh Thank you my friend... 👋😄 let's groove along with more great records this weekend! Just bought three yesterday😁... Best Regards bro!
@willb1157
@willb1157 3 года назад
With a bit of fishing line, a piece of stiff wire and some lead fishing beads, I sorted out the anti-skate issue on my Audio Technica. Makes a Lot of difference to tracking - especially as I removed the silly A/T antiSkate mechanism. It's a bit of plstic and it frees up the bearings too. It is a very simple thing to make. based on my old Lenco. Yes! Remove the phone stage, Decent mat and shim and you get a MUCH better sound. Hardly plug and play though... Thank You my friend.
@MrAlvarochahin
@MrAlvarochahin 6 лет назад
Excellent review as always, thank you Ian
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Thank you Brother Alvaro :-D... have fun, and see you again!
@jmrosel71
@jmrosel71 6 лет назад
Saving for AT - LP 120 for Christmas, good thing I saw your video. Junk as it is, probably will save a little bit more for Rega. I like your videos, especially your trip to Japan, remined me of my Dad working near your in-laws. Thank you for that and keep the video coming.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Thank you Joseph... hope your memory will serve you well when you go to Japan in the near future and do much vinyl shopping as well!!! Warmest Regards, ~ ian.
@MichaelBruunCph
@MichaelBruunCph 6 лет назад
Great job comparing these entry level turntables. Like your spirit about vinyl, keep it up!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Mick B Thank you fellow Brother-in-Vinyl!😄
@Diatonic5th
@Diatonic5th 7 лет назад
Impressive work, my friend! You have one of the best review channels on RU-vid.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear fellow Brother in-Vinyl, Thank you for your support and encouragement... let's enjoy the journey together all! Warmest Regards, ~ian.
@aldig3935
@aldig3935 5 лет назад
Very well detailed review and comparison
@leon9021
@leon9021 6 лет назад
Fantastic review! Very in depth and informative. Will suggest for new buyers looking for comparisons.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear brother, thank you yet again for your kind support. I will continue to work hard for the community with the best of my finances and ability... Best Regards brother.
@jester0201ify
@jester0201ify 7 лет назад
I love my LP 120 and have some modifications to it that have made it a very reliable deck. comparing it to a real technics there is no comparison. We all know how beautiful the real thing is. yet I've gotten my 120 to sound amazing with the correct rake and better smoothness on the bearings. Obviously it's a far cry from a 1200. I would love a real 1200. As usual your spot on when it comes to the review of these turntables. Great Video as always.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Robert Landis Dear brother... thank you for your kindness. Really grateful to your time catching up too....thank you my friend😄🖑..
@Jimmison007
@Jimmison007 Год назад
Did you bypass phono? Seen a few videos on that and could explain the bluntness of sound coming from it
@jester0201ify
@jester0201ify Год назад
@@Jimmison007 I did take the preamp out and wired my own RCA leads.
@Jake-2011-
@Jake-2011- 7 лет назад
very detailed review. good job Ian.
@dembydish
@dembydish 7 лет назад
Fantastic reviews, I am sold on the SL 1200.
@jayaramg9411
@jayaramg9411 7 лет назад
Superb video, thank you very much Ian. Stellar job! Surprised to find the primary wins inspite of quite a few shortcomings & most plane jane fit & finish :P
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
You are right Jayaram, the Primary wins the lot :-D of this three turntables. Thank you for coming by and catching up my friend. Have a happy joyful journey ahead!!!
@harmlessrebel868
@harmlessrebel868 7 лет назад
Great video as always, Ian. I have to say that this was your best yet. I loved the side by side comparisons. I also love that the showed the difference between the LP120 and the SL1200. I hear so many people in the VC talk about how the LP120 and the SL1200 are the same, and you really showed the difference. I would say that a correctly setup SL1200 with a good stylus will hold it's own with just about any sub $1000 turntable, and with a few mods you can build one that will compete with many that are 4 and 5 times more expensive. I hope that all is good Ian. Take care buddy.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Harmless Rebel's Vinyl Channel Ah you are right about the legend. It really is that great. And as you starkly point out: "it will hold it's own with just about any sub 1k turntable. " Still unbeatable on many fronts. Lots of engineering and efforts had gone into it. Quality. Warmest Regards to you brother🤗!!!
@harmlessrebel868
@harmlessrebel868 7 лет назад
It's amazing that it was designed in the early 70s.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
:-D Yes my friend... a lot of engineering might from an engineering behemoth (Panasonic) with lots of input from different experts from various departments to draw on. Lots of resources from its parent company which they can draw on at the snap of their fingers i guess!!
@andromedaneoprog
@andromedaneoprog 7 лет назад
Brilliant and exhaustive review as usual, Ian! Thank you very much for your work on this, i really appreciate it. Hope you can make a review of the Sony PS-HX500 in a near future. I will wait for your review of the new Rega Planar 1 and 2 turntables. Greetings!!!
@drde4010
@drde4010 6 лет назад
Wow your reviews are wonderful. Keep up the great work.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
drD E Thank you my friend👋🤗 nice to see your message first thing i see as i wake up now at 6:36am here in Singapore! Thank you my friend for your kind suppor and words.
@sega.maniac
@sega.maniac 4 года назад
Wonderful review ! 👏Very fair and reasonable conclusion 👍
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 4 года назад
Dear Buddy. Thank you, again for gracing my video efforts.
@kofd1980
@kofd1980 7 лет назад
I had the TN-300 for three months when the problems with the motor started. It just couldn't maintain a constant 33.3 rpm, and would constantly drop to 31 rpm. Eventually the motor gave out altogether. I returned it for a refund and bought a Rega Planar 1. I upgraded the cartridge to a Nagaoka MP-110 and it sounds fantastic!
@XjunkieNL
@XjunkieNL 7 лет назад
What an amazingly well done review, Ian! Love your attention to the details. Suprising recommendation at the end, didn't see that one coming. Have no option, but to agree, SL1200 is a classic in every way. All the best. /Paul
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
X junkie NL Dear Paul🤗, thank you again for your time and kindness writing in and catching up. Love you guys...great friends only with whom these projects are possible. Thank you brother!✌ Great week ahead my friend😄. Catch up anytime. hivinyws@gmail.com.
@ricknelsonm
@ricknelsonm 6 лет назад
Excellent comparison, thank you.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Buddy, thank you for catching up! Have a great vinyl'ing journey ahead!!... really nice to listen to vinyl analogue. A superb awesome kind of music appreciation, and superb therapy for our minds whenever we sit down to listen. Best Regards brother!
@helmutdiggy6874
@helmutdiggy6874 7 лет назад
Great video , lots of time effort and money put into this . You have a beautiful listening area. Thanks for sharing , learned a lot. Take care.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
GOSLAR OLENDORF Dear Friend, thank you for coming by and catching up 🤗🤗! A long time i spent...thank you for your kindness. May you have a great vinyl'ing jounrey ahead enjoying beautiful vinyl analogue music!!Best Regards, ian.
@edmonddesbiens
@edmonddesbiens 7 лет назад
Nice review, it mostly points out the failings of turntables in this price range. They are just too compromised. I suggest to friends who are looking into vinyl to look at the 500$ range + phono stage... specifically Rega 2 or Pro-ject expression etc.. Also like you... used can be a great deal. The used technics SL-1200 can be a great buy. In my part of the world, used Rega.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Edmond Desbiens Dear Edmond, thank you for your contributions 😄. Indeed i set out to discover but in the end it's not to be. And yes the bar standard for affordability and something that is really quality to last longer, with a really good quality tonearm, would have to be found just slightly higher up the price range. $500 for a Planar2? You are right. I will explore the Planar1 soon and knowing the kind of detail and attention Rega pays to bearing tolerances, construction and fitment, i reckon we will be be much much much better off advising our friends to start off their vinyl journey with such a table instead😄. Let's continue to help fellow friends in this warm vinyl sphere. It won't be anything at this price range, but it doesn't need to be expensive. Just slightly higher up the price range will do😄 very, very nicely. Thank you for your time Brother. Warmest Regards 🤗
@edmonddesbiens
@edmonddesbiens 7 лет назад
You are right Planar 2 at 500$USD is too aggressive... more like 700 USD... big advantage of P2 is you get great arm then later you can add better cartridge and then new sub platter and you are really in business. It's spreads the cost over time... easier on the budget. But again P1 or Project expression are just slightly more expensive and a big step up (IMHO).
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
+Edmond Desbiens Good points. Spot-on, I've got to agree brother...
@cjsvinyl
@cjsvinyl 7 лет назад
Edmond Desbiens What about technical support for a discontinued product though? The SL-1200 isn't coming back except for the limited G series. I would love to upgrade from my AT-LP120 but I need to know if something were to go wrong or break, that I'll have the technical support for replacement parts and services.
@johnhpalmer6098
@johnhpalmer6098 6 лет назад
Cj's vinyl, I'd day go with REGA, Pro-Ject,or Music Hall as they still make tables and honor their warranties and are quality built, that is if you don't go too low in their range, Pro-Ject I'm looking at you as they have models that are well under the Debut Carbon that seem to be limited n upgrade capabilities and performance, in other words a major compromise as we just saw with the Element from Pro-Ject. So my advice is, grab the Planar 1 and don't look back.
@vinylexplorer9817
@vinylexplorer9817 7 лет назад
I'm literally shocked by this "real world" video! Awesome presentation and comparison!! Kudos!!!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dear Skywalker, Thank you for your kindness and support writing in. I really appreciate it :-D Best of regards to your vinyl journey as well brother!!!! Do have a great week ahead!!! ~ ian :-)
@carlosureta1974
@carlosureta1974 7 лет назад
one of the best reviews i had seen ever
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Carlos Ureta Dear Brothet Carlos👋😄, thank you for your kindness and encouragement. I will continue to do my best for the upcoming Sony PS-HX500 vs Pro-Ject Debut Carbon DC vs Rega Planar1 shoot-out and reviews. Hard at work now... will aim to juggle well with my family time😃✌!!! See you and may you have great vinyl music that is engaging and always takes your breath away!!! Warmest Regards👋😊, ~ ian.
@jerry-seinfeld
@jerry-seinfeld 5 лет назад
thanks for this breakdown. much appreciated!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 5 лет назад
Dear Buddy Dylan, thank you too for catching up and saying hi! Warmest Regards and may you have the best of vinyl'ing journeys :-D ~ ian.
@max79444
@max79444 6 лет назад
Thankyou Sir for such a comprehensive test.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Bryan Powell Thank you too Bryan for your kind time and encouragement🤗. I'm happy to be of service and of commitment to the community. May you have fun in your journey💪😄✌!!!
@phonatic
@phonatic 7 лет назад
Thank you for this review. It absolutely confirms my reservation against Teac turntables in general. A friend wanted to buy the Teac TN-400, which is just like the TN-300 with a Bluetooth transmitter. While I never understand why a turntable needs Bluetooth in the first place, I was appalled by the datasheet. They officially allow their turntables a speed deviation of +/- 2%. And now that I have seen and heard the speed flaws on top of it makes it even much worse. Fortunately, now he is not going to buy this one. For vinyl, I also have a Technics SL-1210 and it's indeed fantastic!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
phonatic Dear Brother 🤗, i am sorry for my late reply. Thank you very much for your sharing with me your situation with your friend. I am happy to help friends investing hard earned monies on the right equipment. They CAN be affordable. And they can be found...and ever present: Grado Black, Green, Goldring Elektra, Nagaoka MP-110, Schiit Mani, used SL1200s from Japan. A few models have just been put up on sale again on hifido.co.jp over the past three days💪😄!!! A slight wait and their prices will come down gradually as their sales team will readily lower their prices if they are not picked up over a week or two definitely. Strike when your friend thinks the price us amenable, email to hifido01@hifido.co.jp in English addressed to Hirokawa-san and Azuma-san and tell them you guys are my referral (dr ian lee and his wife Namma-san). You can kindly ask them and bargain for a slightly lower price in your email😉. Include your country/address. They will reply with their comfortable price inclusive of 8% off + delivery fee to your country/address💪😄✌. Have a super nice trip along your vinyl journey with such nice friends around you Sir. Yours, ian.
@phonatic
@phonatic 7 лет назад
Now it's my turn to excuse the later answer. :-) Ian, Thank you so much for this valuable info. I passed it along and he is actually looking for Technics there to come by over the next months, fortunately there is no hurry. The SL-1200 or 1210 is such a marvelous turntable. It even has better specs than a 20k EMT 948. I keep definitely watching your videos! Best wishes from Germany, Norman ps.: Sorry for the confusion, I just posted it first under my other channel and now replaced it.
@max79444
@max79444 6 лет назад
First class review. Thank you!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Bryan!! I still like your Ariston RD 110 and SME3009mk2!!! :-D Warmest Regards Brother!!! Update me of your newest turntable you are getting soon too.... nice to always hear from you Buddy :-D !!! yours, ~ ian
@spinalcrackerbox
@spinalcrackerbox 7 лет назад
Another extremely helpful, brutally honest & independent review from you. I was so disappointed though - the table I expected to lose won and the capable looking TEAC collapsing at the start! On top of that, I am concerned that AT is cheapening the legacy of the SL-1200. This brings me to what I love about you, Ian, despite you being a hi-end aficionado, you do not turn up your nose at the Technics and its DD. What a great ending to this test. ~ Josh (P.S. will send you an email shortly re. Tokyo)
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Dearest Josh!! Yes, caught your email. And let's aim for those dates!.. Thank you for your EXPERIENCED AND HONEST views as well my friend!!! Yes Technics and DD is high end! Their rumble, wow and flutter measurement shows. The music performance shows. The built, just lovely. Pride and Joy!!!!!!!! Hahaha... i know you love the ending. But it is nothing further from the truth. How can we choose otherwise. It IS the SL1200.
@spinalcrackerbox
@spinalcrackerbox 7 лет назад
I own an upgraded SL-1210 myself and couldn't be happier with it. To get this high praise from you, when you listen to recordings with lots of acoustic instruments and where such things such as sustain and note decay matter a lot is truly high praise for this piece of Japanese engineering. ... Your ending has inspired me to pick up another TT at the Shibuya disk union branch (very happy to hear that the dates might work for you). ~ Josh
@kap42
@kap42 7 лет назад
Extraordinarily thorough!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Thank you my friend :-) !!!
@kap42
@kap42 7 лет назад
Did you happen to check to stylus rake angle of the U-turn Orbit with the Grado? I'd be interested to know what it was. Thanks!
@mrhilma
@mrhilma 7 лет назад
Another masterpiece, very well reasoned and produced. I SO wanted to like one of them. For the present my Thorens and Rega decks are perfectly safe.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Woodstock LeBird Brother... i am sure you are happy to stay with your Thorens and Rega!!! I am happy for you👍😄
@mrhilma
@mrhilma 7 лет назад
Until I really get serious ... What do you like the best in TT-World?
@somecoder3054
@somecoder3054 6 лет назад
Got myself a SL1200MkII while back. Incredibly solid machine. Bought a ATLP120 for my sister and honsstly I wasn't impressed.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Friend, thank you for catching up!!!! :-D . YOUR MKtwooooo!!!!........ :-D . Yes so SOLID!!!! :-D hahahaa you have something to keep spinning forever!! You are definitely "set for life", and enjoying your record peacefully and greatly for all these years... and more to come!! Best Regards Buddy!!! ~ ian
@batman.darthmaul
@batman.darthmaul 6 лет назад
Really excellent review. The information is outstanding.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Brother, thank you for catching up again :-)... i'm happy to be of service and help. Warmest Regards to your vinyl'ing journey with friends.
@owenlaprath4135
@owenlaprath4135 3 года назад
Last year I got a vintage Technics SL-Q3, and finally set it up a few days ago. With its quartz controlled direct drive motor and the standard Technics arm, same as on the SL-1200, it is a very close relative to the SL-1200. The main difference is, I can fall asleep playing Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (an old joke from The Muppet Show, it is on RU-vid), and it turns itself off, because the Q3 is fully automatic. This saves wear on your stylus! The platter is extra heavy and thick, but only has a thick mat on it, without being coated underneath. It still performs well, and with its original mat it has no platter ring. The SL-Q3 is now replacing my Dual 510 in the living room, but only because the old Dual cannot switch to 45 without problems. On the old Duals, the width of any replacement belt has to be like the original, so it can jump to the 45 pulley and back to the 33 pulley, but they are no longer made. While the Dual 510 (was in the 1977 and 1978 catalogue) sounds stable, measuring Wow And Flutter with the RPM app on my Samsung Android phone, it had 0.15% wow. The Technics SL-Q3 challenged the phone with only 0.03%. Factory value was 0.025%, so the app is a digit short for the Technics! FLAWLESS after 43 years! Still, the 44 year old all mechanical Dual, with a now over 15 year old replacement belt that is not as good as the original, is turning with better stability than modern belt driven turntables! Both turntables have simply outstanding arms. The Dual makes different cartridges sound more different, while the Technics is more forgiving and gives sound more impact. The Dual has finer nuances and is more revealing for critical listening, while the Technics is a little more fun. Dual: Chamber music with classical instruments will be unforgiving to the musicians scraping their fingers over strings. But if they do it right, music and sound will be superb. Technics: The orchestra is in the living room for a party! I think I have to rearrange, so I can run both side by side, and select the one that is better for a particular record to listen to. - Finally a few tips for vintage Dual turntables: If you like fully automatic players, the 1237 is the most reliable of them, with the best sound, and usually still works, with ONE small potential glitch. Automatic Duals are a specialty, so be warned about potential costly restoration of other models and their complex clockwork mechanisms, if you cannot do it yourself. The 502, 510, 505-2, 505-3, and 505-4 are arm lifters and shut off at the end. They are simple and reliable.
@timgraley2198
@timgraley2198 7 лет назад
Hey Ian... Another great video and thank you for your hard work. For the money, I would not choose any of these. Until something comes along and checks all the boxes, I will stick with vintage turntables. I have a Dual 721 direct drive, a 1219 idler drive, and a custom AR XB. Looking forward to the next TT Shootout.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Tim Graley Dear friend. I am happy to see you again!!! You are indeed having lots of fun with your solid classics😄! Keep what you have Sir!!!! Yummy!😄 Love the AR XB most😎
@sturgusgreen3534
@sturgusgreen3534 7 лет назад
Ian I love your reviews. Although I don't always agree keep up the good work. I really appreciate the amount of work and time you put into your reviews.
@sturgusgreen3534
@sturgusgreen3534 7 лет назад
Ian, I meant to ask are you going to do a review on the U-Turn? Thanks
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Sturgus Green Dear Brother in-Vinyl, thank you very much for your friendship. Thank you. Yes...the Orbit. It is sitting pretty in my room, as U-Turn has wrote to me and told me that i need to get a specific US$180 step down transformer that gets me 110V 60Hz so as to feed into the highly power specific motor. Without it, the review is not fair🤗. I imagined most people outside of North America, and are in countries without 110V 60Hz from the grid, wouldn't have the Orbit in their shopping list. Brother, you're amongst the many kind friends who wrote to me and encouraged me to do the Orbit review. I hope to do it soon after i have acquired that USD180 equipment. Promise😄✌. Warmest Regards, ~ian.
@TheKeyToMusicOfficial
@TheKeyToMusicOfficial 6 лет назад
thanks for your great video! and great attitude.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Adam Brenner Thank you Buddy🤗for your kindness and friendship too. We vinyl on💪🌞!!! Warmest Regards! Catch up anytime my friend.~ ian
@burado1974
@burado1974 3 года назад
Great video, I think I'll keep saving my money :)
@YorkshireD1
@YorkshireD1 5 лет назад
Excellent review. Thank you. Although I'm still undecided 🤔
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 5 лет назад
Dear Buddy :-D thank you too for coming by and catching up! I am sure you will find your way soon! I heavily recommend one to save up and jump this grade and go for the Technics SL1200Mk2/3/5 or the Rega Planar 1. Warmest Regards and may you have a great lovely and rewarding vinyl'ing journey ahead! ~ ian
@CSari-po3ey
@CSari-po3ey 7 лет назад
Bro, great to see your video again. great video.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
C. Sari Dear Brother from Penang😄✌! Hope you are resting well on a Saturday afternoon!!! Enjoy your lovely dinner with family come evening!
@EzeeLinux
@EzeeLinux 7 лет назад
The AT120 tone arm wouldn't correspond to any of the alignment curves mentioned because it uses the unique Technics S shaped arm curve. Proper alignment of those arms is achieved by measuring exactly 52 MM from the headshell plug ring to the stylus. There's a jig available to do that or you can just use a ruler. That said, the LP120 still has major arm issues and I agree with your findings... It basically sucks. :)
@francescocirri5163
@francescocirri5163 6 лет назад
great stuff. go on. more shootouts!
@_catsy
@_catsy 5 лет назад
Well, you definitely sold me on the SL-1200, hahaha. Unfortunately, obtaining one is just not feasible for me right now, so I'll have to (at least for now) settle for an AT-LP120, which I can get for a supremely affordable $180. Thanks for the great video.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 5 лет назад
Dear Buddy😄, thank you for coming but and catching up!!! Warmest Regards and see you anytime!
@gpuppy1234
@gpuppy1234 6 лет назад
Thank you for this honest review!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
You are very welcomed. I always speak the truth, report exactly the performance of every equipment bought and reviewed :-D. Best Regards buddy!! Thank you for catching up too and your kind time! Best, ~ ian.
@crazzee10
@crazzee10 7 лет назад
wow this is the best reviews I've ever seen
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
crazzee10 Dear Brother in-Vinyl 🤗, thank you for your kind comment and support. I will continue to work hard and diligently for the vinyl comnunity i so love!!! Have fun my friend!! ~ian.
@Wolfie66
@Wolfie66 6 лет назад
Impressive review!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear fellow Vinyl Buddy, thank you for your time too. It is a pretty long video. I want to be thorough and clear. Warmest Regards my friend! ~ ian
@moeharris613
@moeharris613 7 лет назад
Ian, Thanks for the wonderful review. So full of useful information and clearly presented. I am very close to purchasing a U-Turn Orbit. They are made local to where I live and I would like to support the company in hopes that they continue to make new turntables in the future. Could you please measure the pivot to spindle distance of your Orbit? I know you have very accurate measuring tools and it would be very helpful. Well done.
@samuelyan5297
@samuelyan5297 3 года назад
the best comparison I saw
@azuro1978
@azuro1978 7 лет назад
That was a SUPER test my friend.... In an another video, maybe, you can testing vintage Vinyl players too. I have a vintage C.E.C. DB-6000 player. I love your record store-tour videos too. keep on, great work.... cheers, from Hungary.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 7 лет назад
Thank you my dear friend from Hungary, for your time and catching up!!!! Gosh my jaws drop when I see the google images of the BD 6000 turntable!!! You lucky man :-D !!!!!! May you have many lovely years ahead listening and loving your vinyl records with family and best friends!!! ~ ian.
@LambentOrt
@LambentOrt 7 лет назад
Excellent review!
@micolao
@micolao 5 лет назад
That was IMPRESSIVE. Thank.You.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 5 лет назад
Thank you my friend🤗🎵🎶enjoy vinyl analog!!!! May you have a joyous blissful journey filled with many treasured records and warm friends💪😄
@me4unosic
@me4unosic 6 лет назад
Thank You so much dear Sir!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Dear Buddy, do have a wonderful vinyl'ing journey ahead. Thank you for coming back and catching up again!! Best Regards Brother! ~ ian
@whenpiratesattack
@whenpiratesattack 6 лет назад
Great video. I agree with all of the amazing comments below on your fantastic reviews. Have you considered doing one of the Orbit U-Turn Plus? Would love to see how it stacks up.
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 4 года назад
Fantastic video! Thank you. I learned so much about turntables.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 4 года назад
Buddy, you're welcomed!!!!! The bare minimum to get in, is, a P1. 1, it provides the raison d'etre for getting into vinyl playback, you HEAR, FEEL and experience for yourself the vinyl analogue magic. Anything besides the P1, cheaper than it, and around it, -> I recommend the person to use digital. If one wants to get into, appreciate the fuss is all about, experience the beauty and dynamism of analogue playback, and enjoy the loveliest music journey, get the P1. 2. The P1 also, gives a high account of itself, also overcoming more costly turntables above it. Except of course, the P2, the MoFi StudioDeck and P3. May you and your family be well and happy, stay safe and healthy always💚🏡🍀👍🎶🎶🎶🎶
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 4 года назад
@@HiViNywschannel Thank you. I am just getting into your channel, I know zero about Vinyl so when you say P1, I didn't know what that means. But I am going through your video on the $400-$450 turntables, and P1 must mean Mega Planar 1. I see also that the SL1200 is highly rated. Where can I find information on the different marks? For example, which ones have a titanium tone arm? or is this an upgrade that can be done after one purchases the 1200? May you and your family be well also! Thank you.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 4 года назад
@@jackprick9797 Yes Buddy, it is the Rega Planar 1🤗 If you can get the SL1200MK2/3/5, that would be the best. One needs to be kn the lookout from the local/Japanese market and be prepared to ship it over. The effort is worth it! 🤗🤗🤗 Titanium tonearm is present on the SL1200Mk4. The market should have this old Titanium samples for sale💪😄👍
@jackprick9797
@jackprick9797 4 года назад
@@HiViNywschannel Thank you again! You are the best! I have been recommending your channel to others. Have a great day and talk to you soon.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 4 года назад
@@jackprick9797 Brother, friends we all go along!!!💪👍😄👍💪😄
@fransiscoxaverio5126
@fransiscoxaverio5126 7 лет назад
You need more subs man! Best review ive ever seen
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
Hi Brother in-Vinyl!!! Thank you for your kind words and support :-D!... I am just doing this for the worldwide vinyl community to help them choose, the right vinyl playback system. The self-financed/purchased products' reviews and shoot-outs are done to serve as a reference for all you lovely and warm Friends in Vinyl. I love this community. Absolutely warm and awesome! Best Regards my friend, and see you again!! ~ian :-)
@davidhaar9603
@davidhaar9603 6 лет назад
I think another good option in this price range is the Technics 1350. I was fortunate enough to have one given to me by a great friend. The unit is over 40 years old. I have not been particular kind to this deck. I have moved several times since it has been in my possession and it still works and sounds great. I do need to do some maintenance. Dampening fluid is shot and the rubber in the feet used for isolation has hardened with time. This was easily fixed with some cut in have balls from Hobby Lobby. I recently cleaned out the pots with contact cleaner and the speed is consistent. I find the 1350 on sale occasionally for right around $300. The Technics 1350 originally came with a tall spindle to load multiple records. I do not have the tall spindle. The spindle itself usually sells for $100 +. I never really thought I would have wanted to drop records from that height anyway. Good option in this price range. Also looks really cool. Thank you for another great and carefully thought out video. Great reviews and wonderful insight!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
David Haar Dear David. I read with delight your heart-felt and detailed experience of your SL1350! I keep in mind these information👋👍😄!!! Thank YOU!!!! Very nice of you. I will try it out if i see one or one is available! May you continue to have many years of wondrous vinyl playback with it!!! May the Force be with you. Hi five and cheers mate!
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
David Haar ....(2nd reply) and Sir, thank you for adding very constructively to the scope and knowledge of fellow friends here👍😄✌
@davidhaar9603
@davidhaar9603 6 лет назад
I also wanted to let you know that I saw you using Cannonball Adderly's Somethin New to demo some gear. I was fortunate enough to find this used last week. I love this record. The recording quality is top notch and the songs are played with passion. Truly a beautiful record. Thank you so much for all of your hard work and intelligent, heartfelt reviews.
@HiViNywschannel
@HiViNywschannel 6 лет назад
David Haar I can't believe the coincidence. I was plaging this record this morning for a full hour, both sides, 2 times!!!!!!!! 👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐👐💪😄!!!! What a super Sunday this is😍🎶🎶🎶!!! Thank YOU Brother for coming by and giving me such joy at this coincidence!!!!!!!Warmest Regards Buddy!!!!💪😄✌
@Loggiebeat
@Loggiebeat 7 лет назад
Ian, as always great indepth review and very useful information! Not really looking for another TT yet (my old Thorens is till performing great) but I love turntable reviews in general :-) The program you use to measure the angle of the stylus is very handy....too bad its only for MAC. But I did find another Windows based program that I will try out later. Buying a USB microscoop also seems like a good and affordable plan. Looking forward to your next review ! Regards, Arno
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