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@case_sensitive
@case_sensitive 4 года назад
Liking this new format a lot
@occamsindecision
@occamsindecision 4 года назад
Its definitely fun
@d00dEEE
@d00dEEE 4 года назад
Yeah, the small bites are perfectly sized to fill time while the compiler is chomping away... :)
@nathanschmitz148
@nathanschmitz148 4 года назад
Version two of Sprite should be called Sprite Cranberry, he almost missed that!
@sheponbass
@sheponbass 4 года назад
Sprite... Obey Your Thrust
@Veptis
@Veptis 4 года назад
the new video quality standard isn't Clickspring, but it's telling a story or documenting in your case far better. And this is what matters. Uphold some quality standards, but don't take it too far on yourself.
@qswat7268
@qswat7268 4 года назад
Watching the vanes calibrate is super satisfying for some reason
@OrionAerospace
@OrionAerospace 4 года назад
Yes, but can it C A R B O N A T E M I L K?! We've stopped building rockets to go into the carbonation business...
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
Got to love carbonated milk
@CuervoRC
@CuervoRC 4 года назад
The profile of these fins is designed for supersonic flight, I think that if you put a symmetrical wing profile, naca0012 type will be more effective because the profile will not get stalled easily and deflect the air better.
@DarkQwerzar
@DarkQwerzar 4 года назад
The exit velocity of the gases is even hypersonic, so yeah, I think hypersonic fins are not an option and are the ideal here. The flight might not be supersonic but that's really not the point, they have to sustain the supersonic flux of the engine and create lift in some direction in order to "move" the exit flux in a direction, so thrust vectoring
@CuervoRC
@CuervoRC 4 года назад
@@DarkQwerzar But what he is going to use is not a rocket engine , it is a propeller attached to a tube n EDF. That at most the gases are going to have an output speed of 300 or 400kmh . (100m/s)
@DarkQwerzar
@DarkQwerzar 4 года назад
@@CuervoRC Oh, my bad didn't know he planned to use that with a simple propeller. Why is that? I must have missed some videos. Well in that case you are absolutely right, a supersonic fin would be bad, but I think for a subsonic fin it would need some aerodynamic calculus, the stall problem is indeed real and a low thicness like the NACA model you proposed Is indeed good to obtain an higher angle of attach before reaching stall
@simon_far
@simon_far 4 года назад
@@DarkQwerzar It's because this is a test hopper for him to use while working out the kinks of guidance and automated control in a faster, less expensive, and more controlled method than burning through engines. The plan is still to use these collected data for future rockets.
@nightrous3026
@nightrous3026 4 года назад
Theres something really satisfying about the vehicle testing the vanes.
@alexandrpetrov1110
@alexandrpetrov1110 4 года назад
ew video quality standard isn't Clickspring, but it's telling a story or documenting in your case far better. And this is what matters. Uphold some quality standards, but don't take it too far on yourself.
@AmbientSpectrum
@AmbientSpectrum 4 года назад
The startup check on the vanes looks like stop motion, super cool
@jamesmnguyen
@jamesmnguyen 4 года назад
The calibration sequence is satisfying
@amigodesigns
@amigodesigns 4 года назад
Man... SpaceX needs to hire you
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
CADesigner Excuse me Elon can you please hire this man
@alexandrpetrov1110
@alexandrpetrov1110 4 года назад
ew video quality standard isn't Clickspring, but it's telling a story or documenting in your case far better. And this is what matters. Uphold some quality standards, but don't take it too far on yourself.
@RogerRabbit342
@RogerRabbit342 4 года назад
No! This would limit him. He needs funding. Not a boss
@YukonK9
@YukonK9 4 года назад
The response time on the servos are so amazing! Looks like the vanes on the AIM 9 Sidewinder
@komalagarwal3334
@komalagarwal3334 4 года назад
He *looks* like *Musk* He *works* like *Musk* But unfortunately, He don't *Earn* like *Musk*
@DamiJegede
@DamiJegede 4 года назад
Just not yet. Rooting for him, big time!
@experimental_av
@experimental_av 4 года назад
Elon needs to hire him already
@SamirPatnaik
@SamirPatnaik 4 года назад
He will, soon.
@ankitaaarya
@ankitaaarya 4 года назад
@@experimental_av i want him to not get hired by any company, but i want him to build his own.
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
Not yet...
@skygeorge3638
@skygeorge3638 4 года назад
I’ve got to say, that i love these new „small‘n‘quick“ updates! Keep ’em coming!
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
SkyGeorge Way better format then before isn’t it!
@JDVT10
@JDVT10 4 года назад
I could watch that calibration sequence all day
@readysetnogo
@readysetnogo 4 года назад
I love the new posting format. More frequent posting will typically lead to faster channel growth. Plus, most people watching are here for the content not the editing of the video itself, so a more frequent and therefore more detailed build log is much more entertaining to watch.
@UnexpectedMaker
@UnexpectedMaker 4 года назад
This new format is great... doesn't mean some longer stuff can't be mixed in too, but so far the experiment is a success for me!
@ilikaplayhopscotch
@ilikaplayhopscotch 4 года назад
My skies were almost not blue, so thanks for remembering that!
@russellarnott1212
@russellarnott1212 4 года назад
I really enjoy to rapid-fire updates ... looking forward to the next one!
@ercc923
@ercc923 4 года назад
If this isn’t the most over engineered per square inch craft I don’t know what is.
@rydude998
@rydude998 4 года назад
@@moonshot9056 no such thing as rocket science. This is just system engineering, computer science, and physics.
@GorillaCanon
@GorillaCanon 4 года назад
Joe is part kerbal.
@NatoNathan
@NatoNathan 4 года назад
@rydude998 we call that Collection rocket science.
@rydude998
@rydude998 4 года назад
@@moonshot9056 Ya I work with the education departments of NASA and other local aerospace corporations; it's not. Acting like "rocket science" is the pinnical of engineering and over-engineering is also highly damaging to student's belief they can achieve it in case you were wondering. Get actual experience in the engineering industry and then come tell me it's a "thing".
@rydude998
@rydude998 4 года назад
@@NatoNathan Calling it rocket science doesn't tell you anything. You're either dealing with propulsion, aerospace, electrical, mechanical, physicists, or computer scientists. These are separate entities with separate degree fields. There is no such thing as "rocket science".
@skooliecaptain
@skooliecaptain 4 года назад
Dude, you're a legend! You make the coolest stuff.
@alexandrpetrov1110
@alexandrpetrov1110 4 года назад
ew video quality standard isn't Clickspring, but it's telling a story or documenting in your case far better. And this is what matters. Uphold some quality standards, but don't take it too far on yourself.
@sabre0smile
@sabre0smile 4 года назад
Another neat vid! cool to see the build progress rather than just BOOM suddenly rocket. Truly shows just how much work you put in.
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
Sebrenity It’s not until you actually start working on something like this that you realise just how hard it is haha
@epsolon77
@epsolon77 4 года назад
Like the new format. Saying it again because you need to hear it. NEED MOAR ROCKETS! or. you know. Whatever you might call what you are working on.
@josephrossman1600
@josephrossman1600 4 года назад
The frequent updates are definitely nice.
@sidewinder666666
@sidewinder666666 4 года назад
Strong is the geek within this one.
@Some1Gee
@Some1Gee 4 года назад
I really love the new Joey B uploads whatever whenever experiment.
@ariamaze9081
@ariamaze9081 4 года назад
I wasnt't into science or be good at math, I'm just a fan who followed you before you became a nerd (in a good way) You are so talented, an amazing musician and photographer (video making) Now you combien all this skills and knowleged and put togheter to create actually a master piece, keep sharing your music I love hearing it in the background. By the way, you make science more intersting than it was in my college or high-school.
@ethanmedlicott8604
@ethanmedlicott8604 4 года назад
I love how the servos do like a little dance
@dubmfg
@dubmfg 4 года назад
The way you framed the whole picture was great, excellent explanation and solid film work as always. Great job Joe.
@ml321123
@ml321123 4 года назад
I like this new format
@maxfuchs3387
@maxfuchs3387 4 года назад
The Vanes look like the Tesla Cybertruck. Explain this Elon.
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
Max Fuchs One day Elon will see this and offer Joey B a job instantly
@arthurgoetzke-coburn8930
@arthurgoetzke-coburn8930 4 года назад
Absolutely digging this new video format. Super interesting and very cool. Don't mind the loss of video production quality at all
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 4 года назад
if you used bucket type vanes that move in/out you could use a solid rocket motor and vary the trust.
@odie11771
@odie11771 4 года назад
Got my dose in my coffee break! Absolutely like the new small video idea.
@JPA66
@JPA66 4 года назад
Really liking these quick short videos!
@GypsyTinker2012
@GypsyTinker2012 4 года назад
Loving the new format!
@grumpyoldstudios
@grumpyoldstudios 4 года назад
I like these short updates. Keep them coming.
@7cle
@7cle 4 года назад
I vote Yes to the new release schedule / format.
@done4195
@done4195 4 года назад
Joe, don’t you dare let sprite crash in vane
@sagnikdebnath321
@sagnikdebnath321 4 года назад
Man these videos are much better
@storage8797
@storage8797 4 года назад
This is epic, keep up the awesome work
@tarabros2476
@tarabros2476 4 года назад
For your alignment jig I have an idea, you could use laser pointers and a chart at a distance away (set it as far away as you need for resolution). Should be cheap, easy and quite accurate. Could just print caps for the fins that have the laser mounted to them long as the fit is snug the results should be repeatable and chart placement can be done with an additional laser mounted either in the nozzle or on the frame. I mean it's essentially just a basic alignment jig for a car but those can be accurate to a hundredth of a degree. I'm guessing that's probably good enough for this application.
@bososmark
@bososmark 4 года назад
Even though you said that these videos would be lower quality, I still think this video looks really quality-minded! 👍🏻
@giorgiosofisti7485
@giorgiosofisti7485 4 года назад
I’m enjoying a lot this new format and also this project, I can’t wait to see some more in-depth contents on control flow based on control theory.
@lorisorzan1450
@lorisorzan1450 4 года назад
Those kind of videos are waaay better, keep it on
@blainejeffreys
@blainejeffreys 3 года назад
Phenolic may work too.
@devrim-oguz
@devrim-oguz 4 года назад
Those servos are fire
@kyle_films
@kyle_films 4 года назад
That’s pretty cool! Definitely gotta say I personally enjoy this uploading style. I feel like you don’t need it to be super showy, this is like a documentary and I enjoy it.
@photohotjock
@photohotjock 4 года назад
Love your Short videos Thank You
@B8kerStreet
@B8kerStreet 4 года назад
Keep this format, it’s great
@ax2bxc
@ax2bxc 4 года назад
1:19 now we know joe designs everything on blender
@koenjanssen81
@koenjanssen81 4 года назад
Awesome video, cool to be so “close” to the development
@bigratkiller1
@bigratkiller1 4 года назад
Yeah just keep posting stuff. It's all good
@spaghetti185
@spaghetti185 3 года назад
Thanks for the video...I was just confused what 'exhaust vanes' looked and like and where they were located....Your project is super cool and I was able to understand vanes much better from your video than those boring wikipedia paragraphs :P
@johnrutkowski9005
@johnrutkowski9005 4 года назад
Damn those servos are sweet. Your tvc setup reminds me of the Juno 1 rocket I saw at ksc, I had never thought of that method before then
@neilredelinghuys3263
@neilredelinghuys3263 4 года назад
Keep em vids coming bro, love the little updates!! It builds anticipation for an actual flight 😂
@kz6fittycent
@kz6fittycent 4 года назад
I like these videos better. Keep it up, you're doing great!
@anatollegros3454
@anatollegros3454 4 года назад
this was fun and informative, love it !
@sliceofbread2611
@sliceofbread2611 4 года назад
i like this style of video
@kalledimming6298
@kalledimming6298 4 года назад
I think that a symetrical airfoil shape to the vanes would be the best as it creates less turbulence than a diamond or a flat surface...
@duckmintNZ
@duckmintNZ 4 года назад
That thing looks *insane*
@christianmichael4020
@christianmichael4020 4 года назад
For a lower drag profile, try a tangent line for the vanes, 4 total, forming tangent ogive nose cone profiles. It has pretty low drag, and I’m pretty sure the only way to get a lower drag is to have a Sears Hasck profile, and that’s based on calculus.
@thesnoozingcat211
@thesnoozingcat211 4 года назад
Liking the joey b posts whatever he wants whenever he wants expirement. vid quality not quite as good but still has all of the interesting stuff that I came to this channel for. Keep it up joe
@HPFARM17
@HPFARM17 4 года назад
Hey Joe, I really liked the video. And I don't know if this is the right place or not, but I might have a question. I am currently building a scale Falcon heavy (Without TVC). I was wondering how about how much total voltage you used to launch your Falcon heavy's three engines. If you have time to get to this question that would be very appreciated. If I should go somewhere else, could someone point me to there? ps. love your vids.
@maxk4324
@maxk4324 4 года назад
Same total voltage as you would fire a single one of the engines. Each E-match should be connected in parallel, not in series. In series, it will only ever ignite one engine since whichever E-match lights first will break the circuit. The specific voltage is dictated by the choice of E-match/igniter rather than the engine itself.
@MrSapps
@MrSapps 4 года назад
Can't you just build some test circuits and try it?
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
Just ignite them parallel to each other and it will use the same voltage as one engine 👍
@thePronto
@thePronto 4 года назад
@@edwardrobinson6710 Ba dum tiss..
@pmz558
@pmz558 4 года назад
Elon musk be watching this be like *" way to go older me, way to go "*
@chrisepp4774
@chrisepp4774 4 года назад
Damn those are fast servos...
@Cee64E
@Cee64E 4 года назад
I'm kind of curious if you get more moment by refining the shape of the vanes while preserving thrust. ie, Which is better; diamond, flat-plate, or symmetrical airfoil. Does maintaining good boundary layer adhesion matter? If a vane "stalls" does it still give good control moment, or just more drag. What are the relative critical angles on the different types of vanes? Just a reminder from an old RC guy, and I only mention this because it is so often overlooked: Once you find the best center angle for each van, remember to center the *servo* under that angle so that you have equal throw in both directions from center. You probably already know this, but like I said, it's something a lot of guys overlook with newer computerized systems that allow the center to be reset in software, then hit a mechanical limit in flight. Great post, BTW, really enjoying these.
@Elitecommander0
@Elitecommander0 4 года назад
I much prefer these smaller bite sized videos!
@DavidOwensuk
@DavidOwensuk 4 года назад
Great video
@jayachandra677
@jayachandra677 4 года назад
Kind of friendly neighborhood real life Iron Man 😄
@gusbisbal9803
@gusbisbal9803 4 года назад
If you want after burner. Have a small amount of butane to light a flame and then inject kerosene. Way hotter and stronger flame for very small amount of weight.
@LaneSurface
@LaneSurface 4 года назад
Dang, dude. This is crazy cool.
@ShaunStruwig
@ShaunStruwig 4 года назад
Could you do a video explaining your state space control system? Did state space in an intro level control systems course this semester and not sure I really get it 100%. Would be cool to see how it fits in to a real world project like this! Loving the new format by the way.
@IdeaMaker2003
@IdeaMaker2003 4 года назад
I want to see you flying this amazing aircraft......
@max-q8822
@max-q8822 4 года назад
You can’t miss the end I know that all too well
@regexpert3237
@regexpert3237 4 года назад
Enjoyed.
@tanwarsingh8577
@tanwarsingh8577 4 года назад
You are space x
@PatrickOliveras
@PatrickOliveras 4 года назад
Couldn't you just shake the milk to get the CO2 out?
@jexik1010101010
@jexik1010101010 4 года назад
I'm loving this new channel videos didactics
@justfabulous3941
@justfabulous3941 4 года назад
March 2024: BPS achieves orbit Srlsly tho nice job.
@YukonK9
@YukonK9 4 года назад
How about SLA printing the Vanes in Cermaic or High Temperature resin? Itnwould be lighter than metal maybe?
@1231legomaniac
@1231legomaniac 4 года назад
As far as my knowledge goes, I’m pretty sure sla player adhesion is laughable compared to fdm. (I heard that somewhere but I’m not sure if it’s actually that bad) so that could be a pretty big drawback for this type of usecase for it
@YukonK9
@YukonK9 4 года назад
@@1231legomaniac I've SLA printed parts and they're great for light applications sich as these vanes
@maxk4324
@maxk4324 4 года назад
@@1231legomaniac SLA has better layer adhesion than FDM actually. Here's a source for coroberation (skip to the section titled "FDM vs SLA: Precision and Smoothness"): m.all3dp.com/fdm-vs-sla/
@edwardrobinson6710
@edwardrobinson6710 4 года назад
The afterburner would bet super hot to aluminium is good, even though it’s a soft metal...
@starman2070
@starman2070 4 года назад
Hey great video and just wondering when will you be doing another Echo landing attempt.
@johnbazaar8440
@johnbazaar8440 4 года назад
Aluminum is not a high temperature metal. You may see it burn away pretty quickly. Steel or stainless steel sheet metal would be better. Much lower risk of failure. Thanks, John
@SimplySpace
@SimplySpace 4 года назад
Catchy servo noises
@Tony770jr
@Tony770jr 4 года назад
Vanes were used on the German V2 rocket since they had a fixed rocket nozzle.
@alexandrpetrov1110
@alexandrpetrov1110 4 года назад
ew video quality standard isn't Clickspring, but it's telling a story or documenting in your case far better. And this is what matters. Uphold some quality standards, but don't take it too far on yourself.
@rantovel
@rantovel 4 года назад
Joe, the vanes should be airfoils. You want the air stream to flow over the vane with min turbulence. With diamonds or flat that is not going to happen.
@BlondeHabibi
@BlondeHabibi 4 года назад
NASA called. They want their laptop back... and the Rolex.
@epicdaniel508
@epicdaniel508 4 года назад
He uploaded this video at 12 pm in Germany rip :(
@andrewbergspage
@andrewbergspage 4 года назад
Seems like a NACA foil profile would be better than flat for those vanes. Especially while they're actuating.
@PointShotDR
@PointShotDR 4 года назад
I like!
@garrycollins3415
@garrycollins3415 4 года назад
Yeah, that's the way to do it.
@CleanPhilWanted
@CleanPhilWanted 4 года назад
Instead of an afterburner you could have it spray out carbonated milk! Or just slowly seep carbonated milk all over.
@crinnovator9444
@crinnovator9444 4 года назад
DID YO ARE WORKING IN SPACE-X
@harry979
@harry979 4 года назад
Someone needs to make a song out of the mother test sounds
@hazelkitty27
@hazelkitty27 4 года назад
I don't even know what a vane is but I subscribed a long time ago anyway.
@ryanritter7814
@ryanritter7814 4 года назад
393rd.....pretty good
@cheapscifi
@cheapscifi 4 года назад
what EGTs are you expecting? I might consider a different material for the thrust control vanes. Dope tho, cant wait to see it in action.
@Gadalac
@Gadalac 4 года назад
I like
@blainejeffreys
@blainejeffreys 3 года назад
My bad, just realized this is a ducted fan and your "propellant gas" is ambient air.
@cobrasniper555
@cobrasniper555 4 года назад
Very clean design work. Do you use CAD software for drawing/design development? I'm curious to what has worked for you.
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