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TWIN CAM BORE SIZES AND CYLINDER WALL THICKNESS EXPLAINED 

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Cylinder wall thickness is the measurement of the material that makes up the walls of the engine's cylinder, which houses the piston. It is the distance between the inner surface of the cylinder, where the piston moves up and down, and the outer surface of the cylinder that interfaces with the engine block or cooling jackets.
*Importance of Cylinder Wall Thickness:*
1. *Durability:* Thicker walls can better withstand the stresses and pressures generated during engine operation, reducing the risk of cracking or deformation.
2. *Heat Management:* The thickness of the cylinder walls affects how heat is dissipated. Thinner walls can dissipate heat more quickly, but they must still be thick enough to maintain structural integrity.
3. *Performance:* Proper wall thickness helps maintain the precise shape and alignment of the cylinder, ensuring optimal performance and efficiency.
4. *Engine Longevity:* Adequate thickness ensures that the cylinder walls can endure prolonged wear and tear, contributing to the overall longevity of the engine.
Harley-Davidson engineers their engines with carefully calculated cylinder wall thicknesses to achieve a balance between strength, heat dissipation, and weight. Too thick, and the engine might become overly heavy and inefficient at heat management; too thin, and the engine might suffer from durability issues.
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Комментарии : 77   
@kylelay1506
@kylelay1506 28 дней назад
This is easily the best bike content on youtube, in my own opinion.
@macmac3770
@macmac3770 Месяц назад
That’s by far the best explanation of bore sizing and the potential issues with just going bigger without fully understanding what’s involved. Hats off to you for the easy-to-understand explanations. 🤜🏼
@tomrinde4487
@tomrinde4487 28 дней назад
Really good communication and tec. Knowledge.
@TheHighestGodisGood
@TheHighestGodisGood 5 дней назад
This video is great if you assume you're getting all the cubes from boring alone. There's also stroke that can help, which would leave thicker cylinder walls than from just boring. Also, at least for the HD 110 kit, it comes with steel-lined aluminum cylinder walls, which adds strength back in. Just some thoughts.
@jdcastillocastillo3492
@jdcastillocastillo3492 9 дней назад
yeah,the pain of H-D preformance,very well explained sir keep up the good work.
@anchorsaweigh9893
@anchorsaweigh9893 26 дней назад
I built a 02 FXDL zippers/s&s 95 from an 88. I went all gear drive. This was 2008 and the engine has been rock solid all these years. You mentioned people who really care for their bikes and that is the X factor. Great Video. Sub’d 🤙🏽
@Anonymouso283
@Anonymouso283 7 дней назад
I had the 4 inch bore S&S Sidewinder 100ci kit. I was far too scared it was going to explode on me. Opted out of that and went with boring my 88ci to 98ci done @ hammer performance set with very nice CP Carillo pistons. I’ve heard really good stuff about the 98’s, but I may buy a new set of original 88’ pistons and cylinders just to have on stand by JUST in case. Great video man.
@MrTikd69
@MrTikd69 25 дней назад
Currently building a s&s 124 hot set up kit . Had my crank case machines to accept bigger cylinders. I really hope it lives up to it's reputation and lasts a long time.
@niparts81
@niparts81 28 дней назад
This video shows very well that bigger is not always better.😁☝️
@joshua-xn7wt
@joshua-xn7wt 24 дня назад
Much appreciated bro, sadly there are some who do what you do but cannot seem to explain it like you do. Thank you for doing what you do.
@ewm000
@ewm000 Месяц назад
New favorite bike channel! Keep killing it!! 💯
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@ewm000 hey thanks my dude! Ring the bell 🤘🏼
@1armhombre
@1armhombre Месяц назад
Thank you for sharing this information. You helped me better understand what my mechanic was trying to explain to me when discussing the cvo dynas and why to avoid the 110.
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@1armhombre awesome! Glad to hear it! Sounds like you have an excellent mechanic instead of a money hungry one. 🤘🏼
@frederickking1660
@frederickking1660 29 дней назад
The true 110s had bored out cases with thicker cylinder sleaves. They had their own problems with higher valve spring tension that was hard on the cams.
@Stay_smiling_garage
@Stay_smiling_garage Месяц назад
I flunked high school so bad because I had no interest if they had taught me about math and science in relation to bikes like you do I think I woulda passed lol
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@Stay_smiling_garage well you’re in luck bubba. Good ol’ algebra is coming back. Haha
@db3170
@db3170 15 дней назад
Brother thank you for your heartfelt comment! I too struggled with math mostly due to pisspoor teachers that don’t care about students that aren’t grasping concepts without practical applications. Ironically I teach others now that were marginalized by their teachers… Learn it yourself 🥇💯🏁
@jamessouthworth1699
@jamessouthworth1699 28 дней назад
I have a stock 2003 twin cam 88. After seeing all the knucklehead ideas the factory came up with while building these I wouldn't dream of adding more than a mild cam to this engine without a COMPLETE engine build from the ground up. The reason is I don't trust the stock crank at all.
@danielash9834
@danielash9834 Месяц назад
I’m building a high comp (12:1 & TW999 cams) 103 currently This is why I didn’t go 107 I guessed at what you showed in this video Great work thanks
@db3170
@db3170 15 дней назад
You do a great job with passion and understanding
@juliohernandez1991
@juliohernandez1991 11 дней назад
Dude you are putting out awesome and easy to understand content. Keep it up. Secondly would you happen to know the cylinder wall thickness of a stock 110? Are those make out of the same cylinder heads?
@darylthompson5071
@darylthompson5071 Месяц назад
Outstanding cam .
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@darylthompson5071 thanks man!
@nicholastincher6371
@nicholastincher6371 20 дней назад
Had a 110 screaming eagle CVO NOTHING but Problems!!! Cheers
@tommys2979
@tommys2979 25 дней назад
Recently found your channel man you know your stuff, i love seeing this stuff broken down. Do you mostly do twin cam builds or have you ever hopped up any evos?
@BuildRideRepeat
@BuildRideRepeat Месяц назад
That Spigot! I'm all about reliability and glad I stayed at 3.937 for my 107...
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@BuildRideRepeat smart man!!
@viniciusmelo4112
@viniciusmelo4112 6 дней назад
just did a 106” on my 2011 dyna and now im scared 😂 im not a stunt rider who constantly hit the rev limit but i do like to ride fast and drop some gears into corners
@tobpitbull
@tobpitbull Месяц назад
Good info for your clients and smart video… but case boring is the alternative for 110”
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@tobpitbull that’s where we’re going next! No spoilers hahahaha
@craigkemmerzell5741
@craigkemmerzell5741 Месяц назад
Very good show 👏 I went with a Zippers Muscle 107 Kit I have a oil kooler and Love Jugs Mighty Mites D K Custom oil filter I have fun with it but I don't beat on it My temp on the oil tank stays around 200 to 210 tops all day long 😀
@okiemale1589
@okiemale1589 Месяц назад
My TC 103ci crapped out last year... It was still under extended warranty so I had my local Harley Davidson Dealership convert it to the TC 110ci, that's the engine that came on the later CVO's... Harley Davidson paid 6K for the engine... I paid 2.4K for the Screaming Eagle parts...
@thedubbers5654
@thedubbers5654 4 дня назад
absolutely killer. very in depth and informative, how would this translate to a 107ci to a 124ci? any chance you could do a video like this on the m8 motors?
@xlrider1565
@xlrider1565 29 дней назад
Would you install a stroker crank/flywheels instead, to arrive at those increased displacement sizes?
@RealDougFields
@RealDougFields 14 дней назад
I do not like "Drop In" 110 cylinders because of the super thin skirt. The 107" is the limit with out case work. That being said- It is NOT a problem to bore Twin Cam cases for larger cylinders. It does NOT affect reliability at all. Lengthening the stroke often decreases reliability but a bore increase should not. I have built some very large Twin Cams that have "Stock Like" reliability.
@ronkuzyk3836
@ronkuzyk3836 10 дней назад
What about aftermarket cylinders that are made larger? S&S or Fuel Moto? Do they not retain the cylinder wall thickness?
@mikehernandez7346
@mikehernandez7346 26 дней назад
thanks for this explanation. I have a downed 50K 2011 96" TC because the piston in the front chain tensioner pushed through the shoe and the metal piston was being chewed up by the timing chain. I was scratching my head on build direction. Question, will boring the cylinders to a 103" require mods to the crankcase? As I understand it, my cylinders would need to be bored out .125". Keep the videos coming.
@johnkennedy3174
@johnkennedy3174 Месяц назад
Excellent content!
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@johnkennedy3174 I appreciate you!!
@boxcarbro3043
@boxcarbro3043 Месяц назад
Good job bub. Thank you.
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@boxcarbro3043 no problem my dude that’s what I’m here for! 🤘🏼
@JSavine58
@JSavine58 Месяц назад
Great video.
@josephbujnowski3795
@josephbujnowski3795 14 дней назад
In regards to building a motor with the purpose of stunting on a 103 platform, would you use lower compression pistons and forged or cast due to the bikes getting hot and the forged expanding more then the cast. What would you do?
@tomconner5067
@tomconner5067 28 дней назад
Well, what about case boring for bigger diameter jugs with more sleeve thickness
@ChopshopDenBosch
@ChopshopDenBosch 29 дней назад
I have a 80ci evo would love to know more about that engine 🤙🏼
@joesaysstuff5802
@joesaysstuff5802 Месяц назад
Hey Cam, real quick. Can you get thicker top ends to maximize your bore size without the risk?
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@joesaysstuff5802 we’re going to dive way into that in more advanced videos. But long story short, yes. (If I understand your question correctly.) the process behins by removing the bottom end from the motorcycle. Removing the crank and the cylinder studs from the bottom end and reassembling it (so it’s just a hollow bottom end. We then bore the cases bigger and wider so we can install aftermarket cylinder with a bigger diameter. S&S makes kits 🤘🏼 this is how people get huge engines like 124 out of stock cases. Or my favorite engine of all time, a 4 inch bore with 4 inch crank (square)
@georgesmith5624
@georgesmith5624 5 дней назад
Hi Cam can i put a 4 3/8 aftermarket crank in 2002 cases so i dont have to do a Timken conversion to my 2009 cases,i believe that 2002 cases have crank position senser.
@magureguimotorsports8644
@magureguimotorsports8644 Месяц назад
This is for boring stock jugs right? Does that wall thickness also apply to after market jugs?
@CDGraff_15
@CDGraff_15 21 день назад
Might’ve just saved me a couple grand. Does the S&S lack wall thickness? Or only stock heads that have been bored out?
@Outside_Easy
@Outside_Easy Месяц назад
What stock bore cylinders do you recommend? Smoked crank bearings in my 88 and want the most reliable rebuild with 525 camchest kit
@dirtywade
@dirtywade 16 дней назад
dude..... this ice deadly info
@user-nt2zu8fl9p
@user-nt2zu8fl9p 26 дней назад
Harley and S&S does it by using a stronger steel sleeve 💪🏾. I know lots of people with twin cams at about that Harley tire shredder 110 kit 😊
@supercatzr500
@supercatzr500 12 дней назад
Yes they use a ductile iron for the 100/110 kits
@oldphart-zc3jz
@oldphart-zc3jz 23 дня назад
Paying to have new pistons fitted using proper torque plates should be factored when comparing aftermarket kits ready to bolt on. Not every machine shop does good work either. (I bought my own torque plates and take my tech data to a local race engine builder, he measures the bore with his dial bore gauge then tells me what oversize is required, then I buy the parts and he's happy while I get the work done to spec.)
@2540micky
@2540micky Месяц назад
Is the 103 bored out wall thickness the same as what comes straight from the factory 103
@r.wardvader7288
@r.wardvader7288 Месяц назад
I was wondering the same thing
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@2540micky the case bore doesn’t change so yes. The 103 is a 3.875” bore
@MrRunWO
@MrRunWO Месяц назад
So is that how a factory 110 is or do they have different sleeves that are thicker
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@MrRunWO no! Great question. A factory 110 comes with a bigger spicket diameter in the cases
@hansolea
@hansolea 3 дня назад
👍🏽🤘🏽‼️
@wulxy1617
@wulxy1617 Месяц назад
Yo cam, since you are getting only .030in for a big bore 110 and running a high risk to melting that thing, what’s the difference with the new M8 117 models?
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@wulxy1617 hey great question. We will look into this in future videos 🤘🏼
@rickvia8435
@rickvia8435 21 день назад
3.75" does me just fine...
@williamrivers1563
@williamrivers1563 25 дней назад
Put ss 4” big bore it will be fine
@Justin.008
@Justin.008 Месяц назад
Is there anyway to make a thicker cylinder with the sole purpose of boring it to a 110?
@Hunter-qm4of
@Hunter-qm4of Месяц назад
Yes, but the cases have to be bored to accept the thicker liner.
@Justin.008
@Justin.008 Месяц назад
@@Hunter-qm4of is that were it gets dicey?
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@Justin.008 yes! We are getting to that in future videos. 🤘🏼 we will be splitting a bottom end and boring out cases to show you how much more we can get out of a twin cam
@Justin.008
@Justin.008 Месяц назад
@@Gnarlys_Garage ill be tuning in
@Justin.008
@Justin.008 Месяц назад
@@Gnarlys_Garage thanks for learnin me some stuff
@sekaevans1105
@sekaevans1105 Месяц назад
🤦‍♂️ not me with a 110ci…great! If I upgrade to the bolt on aftermarket 117ci is that any better?
@sekaevans1105
@sekaevans1105 Месяц назад
Mine is stock 110ci. Is that cylinder wall thickness still the same or different because of bore?
@Gnarlys_Garage
@Gnarlys_Garage Месяц назад
@@sekaevans1105 no! This is in regards to boring! The stock 110 from the factory had a bigger bore diameter in the case! You have bigger cylinder. Nothing to worry about and you’re safe. You could however go up to a 117 ahah that would be the going 110 equivalent
@sekaevans1105
@sekaevans1105 Месяц назад
@@Gnarlys_Garagethank your very much for your reply what a relief. As I’ve mentioned once before I enjoy your content and will continue to follow and support you. Cheers 🍻
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