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Twin Hopper part 7 (new motor mounts, 3.6kg payload test) 

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Also an inspection of rain/cyclone damage around the farm.

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@salvesunita247
@salvesunita247 11 месяцев назад
You have one of the most interesting channel about handmade aircraft models 👍thanks for nice sharing 🙏
@ca8064
@ca8064 Год назад
I love how happy you were about the broken shed at 16:30
@chuvak_s_troi
@chuvak_s_troi Год назад
На мій погляд, у Вас один з найцікавіших каналів про хендмейд авіамоделі. Дякую.
@tabdougherty8549
@tabdougherty8549 Год назад
As to your blue sky post. I think 98% of viewers already envy your environment enough. Spokane Washington looks like a wasteland in comparison. Love your content!
@user-oj8qn2fh8b
@user-oj8qn2fh8b Год назад
This place is perfect for flying FPV
@norgtube
@norgtube Год назад
That lack of elevator authority with flaps out isn't too surprising, they're sitting right in the flaps' dirty air.
@GNARGNARHEAD
@GNARGNARHEAD Год назад
gorgeous plane, has been fun watching it come together 😃
Год назад
The video was very interesting again. I hope not too much was broken on your property by the storms. As always, thanks for the video!!! 👍
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
Liked the new motor mounts, flies very stable with 10.5 kg. Q: Do you need to register such heavy planes in NZ? Not only is the RID something that is coming, I'm interested in the past, was it needed?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
Over 15kg requires some kind of inspection by a man with a clipboard, and 25kg is the limit for any kind of remote controlled aircraft. As far as I know there is no registration of any kind required and I wouldn't do it anyway.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
@@iforce2d thanks for the clarification.
@aliberkozderya3112
@aliberkozderya3112 Год назад
@@iforce2d ''inspection by a man with a clipboard'' this expression sounds so anti-government I love it.
@klausochs7006
@klausochs7006 Год назад
Nice job dude. 😊👍
@MrTerrymiff
@MrTerrymiff Год назад
If you put motors and a GPS on your launch trolley you could get it to return to you. That would save having to walk up and down that really steep concrete footpath.
@kermets
@kermets Год назад
Hay Chris .....about the flaps......my microlight has a max flaps down speed of 50mph so i guess our models will do also so 75kph maybe so fast to put flaps down causing the porpoising at those speeds. maybe set a limit of 55kph and test from there cheers Brett
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator Год назад
The Twin Topper has turned out well, and flying very nicely. Like how you are overlaying OSD on HD recording (6:15) using a simple overlay. OSD is there and useful, but doesn't distract from the amazing landscape views. If the porpoising is reduced at 1/2 or 3/4 flap, that might be an optioning until just about to flare. Another option to try is to droop the ailerons a bit, in combination with 1/2 flap, if you are happy with the handling. The turbulence on approach may be related to thermal activity. They typically can detach where a steeper slope exists, or a there's a surface discontinuity. Pausing video over the landslide area (12:50) provided a very sharp views. Wondering if water flowing down the runway resulted in more runoff in that one direction vs typical towards the end of the runway. Perhaps a few deflectors (angled timbers) could help in future if expecting heavy rains. (?) The volume of rain water NZ received is just incredible. Hopefully you have great fall weather to make up for the crazy summer weather.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
I think the interaction between flaps and elevator is the problem, so aileron droop probably wouldn't make much difference. I might try landing with half flaps next time and see how that goes. The bottom 2/3 of the airstrip only has a very small slope, and I doubt much water would run down length-ways like a waterslide. On the top 1/3 it might, but I would expect that to cause an excess at the point where the slope flattens out. It's only a few meters wide so doesn't really catch that much water. I think it was just the result of an extreme amount of rain overall, it was the wettest month in over 170 years apparently.
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator Год назад
​@@iforce2d Was only suggesting to try aileron droop for extra flap effect if you find 1/2 flaps to reduce porpoising. Crazy, 170 years is the 1850's. Official NZ weather reports go back to the late1860's, before that data have been gathered from colonial dairies. Hopefully you (NZ) never sees this much rain in one summer again, for at least 100 years.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
yeah 170 years did sound rather extreme. I just fished that up from the first article I found, not sure how dependable it is. It was certainly the most rain in 3 days I've ever experienced, either here or in Japan. yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/02/auckland-just-had-its-wettest-month-in-over-170-years-and-more-rain-is-on-the-way/
@AerialWaviator
@AerialWaviator Год назад
@@iforce2d "Figure 1" in that article really puts the amount of rain into perspective ... vs. average summer and vs. an average January (wettest month). So far outside of normal, by a few standard deviations. 🤯
@enginsci8307
@enginsci8307 Год назад
This slope slide may cost more than runway if they will make a concrete retaining wall for example but i think they will use gabion wall after removing lose soil and refill and compact top soil
@sUASNews
@sUASNews Год назад
The internationally accepted dummy payload is bars of chocolate, that way if it all goes wrong, at least there is chocolate.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
I was thinking about demonstrating the (very long) internal cavity size by using my rifle as payload, but that might raise some of the wrong eyebrows.
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
17:50 that shed looks like it's not usable anymore. Was it better in the past?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
I don't think it has been used for many decades. It's a shearing shed and there haven't been sheep run on this farm for a long time.
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 Год назад
I haven’t checked with the Canberra guys yet, but do you do a speed vs power graph for finding best loiter and best range speeds? Should be almost as simple as graphing the power vs speed as long as vertical speed and longitudinal acceleration are almost zero. I’m interested to find this out if it works. Also, have they implemented automatic rudder to stop slip/skid?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
I was thinking to make a speed/power calculation if I ever put an airspeed sensor on this, not sure if I can be bothered though.
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 Год назад
@@iforce2d Thanks for replying. I haven’t got around to it yet either. I was just going to get the data file in excel and strip out power,speed, accel, vert vel, then strip off any accel or very speed over a low value then simply feed it out as an xy graph
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines Год назад
Maybe a little less flap angle will cure the pitch sensitivity?....Have you tried balancing those big props?...🤔😳😏🇬🇧🇬🇧 I thought only we had shit weather....lol ..😏
@ErikssonTord_2
@ErikssonTord_2 Год назад
Lovely plane, but why not folding props?!
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
I see no reason to use folding props here.
@ThePapanoob
@ThePapanoob Год назад
As this plane has the props out of the way for landing and isnt meant for gliding i see no reason for folding props at all
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
If the grass is long the props are actually at some risk of breaking, but it's minimal. The original plan was to make a system that would stop them in the horizontal position, but then I couldn't be bothered :) I'm thinking I will put landing gear on sometime, so then it will not be an issue.
@secretsix6
@secretsix6 Год назад
its the excess rain fall running off the runway that has caused the land slip
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
The strip is only a few meters wide so it would only shift rain by a little from the norm. If you mean it flowed all the way down like a waterslide, I doubt it. It was just an extreme amount of rain that probably would have caused this either way. Take a look at how things were not far away in Auckland: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rwrLxeO4Jmo.html
@hobbymaker123
@hobbymaker123 Год назад
I am curious what motor and prop combination did you use?
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
4250 580kv 16x10 4S
@artemnikitin2806
@artemnikitin2806 Год назад
oh, yes, for my tatste 4.2 is depended on GPS for attitude control waay too much.
@atw98
@atw98 Год назад
Can I ask a genuine question. Why don't modelers just use glass instead of carbon on planes? Never seen a reason to use cardon. Just use fiberglass so cheap and easy to make. Or just buy carbon and vacuum bag it. Those small sheets you pay $100 for you could make for $20, usually less.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
98% of this plane uses glass, so I assume you're talking about just the motor mounts? Glass is fine where some flex is acceptable (ie. everywhere else on the plane) but carbon is better for something that is never supposed to deform. The strength to weight (and volume) of carbon is much better, and the motor mounts are a part that deals with strong torque and resonant vibration. For small parts the cost of carbon is not a show-stopper, I paid US$13.90 for that 3mm sheet (200x250), not $100 lol. For the cost and effort of making my own, and the quality of result achieved, buying is still the winner. 200gsm carbon cloth costs US$30 per square meter here and I would need about 12 layers to make a 3mm sheet, so the same 200x250 size would cost $18 just for the raw cloth, but you'd need a little extra around the edges, then you need resin, and there's no way you're gonna make something as nice as the bought one on the first try. The bought ones are +/- 0.1mm of the stated thickness which makes them dependable when you need pieces to slot together. Making your own would be sensible if you need larger sheets, or you're doing many repeated jobs over time, or precision is not so important.
@atw98
@atw98 Год назад
@@iforce2d cool good explanation.
@tamburavadak
@tamburavadak Год назад
FIRST!
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch Год назад
😃
@Fatpumpumlovah2
@Fatpumpumlovah2 Год назад
IF ITS FIBERGLASS IT WILL ALWAYS SOUND LIKE THAT.
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
I SEE NO REASON WHY THAT SHOULD BE TRUE.
@Fatpumpumlovah2
@Fatpumpumlovah2 Год назад
@@iforce2d alright buddy. Carry on
@iforce2d
@iforce2d Год назад
That was the part where you were supposed to give your reasoning as to why things made of fiberglass will always sound like that. I didn't say you're wrong, I just said I don't see any reason.
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