Twin Peaks Overview #7: It Can Be Said Aloud Now 

Interesting thoughts about Richard. I suppose it could have been a plan to capture Bad Coop after he eluded being sucked back in. On the subject of Norma, I doubt they'd try and replace her. She and Ed seemed to have come to the end of their storylines, and could just as easily not appear (Everett McGill had long since retired from acting at the time season 3 was getting rolling...I hear they had some trouble even finding him at first).

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Peggy Lipton's passing hit us like a ton of bricks, to sum it up nicely. I know in my heart that David would never dream of recasting her. I didn't know that there was some struggle to find Everett McGill, that's interesting to me. Either way, there's a lot of questions to be answered that, knowing Lynch, will never be answered. at least, not fully ;)

I dont think, if David Lynch made another season, he will kill the mystery. If he answers some questions, he will definitely leave more questions, like he did in S3. Because the idea is the mystery. And it all really depends on if he gets the ideas for new stuff and if he gets ideas for the answers while daydreaming the world or if he already had those answers to work on for the next time. We never know and l would also be satisfied either way. And also I don't think its for us or Mark Frost or Subrina to decide whether there should or should not be more, so even David Lynch wouldn't know til it happens. : ) Also, the story will go how the ideas come to him and not how it should continue from there from any sense of writing a story or tv show. No one will ever know how and where it goes til ideas come subconsciously to David

@@thatoneoddball2564 Agree with you that you cannot and Lynch mostly won't replace any actors with another because thats how we know them. We saw what happened to the Arm and Phillip. I have a feeling if there is the next chapter, in any form, if those characters are mentioned, they would have passed on from Twin Peaks too, because they mention Log Lady passing in the show. Jeffries was part of the time travel and stuff, so it made sense for him to return in that form and the Arm is a Lodge entity, so it's understandable to make a tree out of him, because you can't replace those faces with other people, it'll never feel the same. Like CornPone mentions The Jumping Man actor being the same, even if we don't see his actual face. I'd guess Donna was changed in FWWM because perhaps David Lynch had his ideas for the character so he had to ask someone else. But Truman was changed to another character, instead of same. Would be great if Michael Ontkean and J. Anderson returned with their role, because they are so memorable Also, David Lynch said, in the world of Twin Peaks, Gordon Cole would be devastated about Albert

@@thatoneoddball2564 Norma Jennings WAS Twin Peaks. Everyone in the show Twin Peaks got their happy ending. Season 4 will take place in the REAL world. Lynch used the real life residents of Laura Palmer's house to tell us he is now in the REAL world. And he just brought Judy with him. The only other people to cross over with Dale was Diane and..... Audrey Horne. Episode 15 was solved like a self encapsulated crime show that Lynch created Twin Peaks to combat. Dale comes back as we knew him and he solves the crime all within that 1 episode. But then he is watching himself and realizing "we live inside a dream". They lived inside Lynch's dream(or Audrey's.) But then Dale crosses over, into the real world as "Richard" and Diane as "Linda". Dale finds Laura Palmer, who is now "Carrie Paige". They go to Laura's old house, but it's not the same house. It is the set of the house they used for the TV show 25 years ago. What year is this is not the correct question. What reality is this, is the real question Dale needs to be asking. The numbers 3 and 15 do represent the episodes. Dale could have went straight to episode 15 and get that closure we the audience demanded.... but that is not the correct path to take. It is what doomed the show to begin with, demanding the answer to who killed Laura Palmer. Naido corrected this and sent him to episode 3 instead. Dale Cooper is the audience. We were the ones that instinctively wanted to jump to episode 15, and it was Lynch telling us as Naido.... "no, that is not the way". The real story is in the mundane. Twin Peaks is all about the evil of bad television. Things got much more violent in Season 3 because television itself has become much more violent. The evil travels through fire/electricity and air/wind. Yes, some of these observations are in that "god-awfully long video", but these theories already were out there, they just get expanded upon. Everyone's theory is valid, even Lynch would agree with that. If people think Laura destroyed Judy with a scream, great, let them have their closure. If people think Judy followed them to the real world, even better, it leaves the mystery open. Judy was trapped in a time loop prison the Fireman made "It is on our house now." She was contained. But then she "locked on" to Laura Palmer once Dale brought her within proximity to her. Laura screamed because she saw briefly saw a glimpse of Judy in her true form coming through the power lines, and the electrical outlet like Dale did. Possessed Sarah came through and she is walking out that door to claim her prize. Richard doesn't enjoy the coffee as much anymore because he is Mr C and Dale, combined. Mr C hates coffee and rejects it when offered, Dale loves coffee and always accepts it, when brought into balance, light and dark.... he has no feelings toward coffee. He orders it because he is compelled to, but doesn't really care for it one way or the other. Mr C's goal was to find Judy. He wanted to take the place of BOB, which I think Lynch named after Bob Iger who was constantly pressuring him and was the person bringing senseless violence into the world through TV. But Judy loved BOB and told Mr C he was going back into the Lodge soon. But then BOB is killed and Judy goes berserk, smashing Laura's picture, blaming her. So now if Mr C brings Judy the one thing she wants most, Laura Palmer.... then Mr C can take BOB's place. He has already proven himself to be more cunning than the instant self gratifying BOB. He is meticulous and much more dangerous. BOB just had supernatural gifts that Mr C did not possess. BOB enjoyed all the violence and chaos that Mr C created, but it was Mr C driving he bus, not BOB. BOB was always in the backseat letting Mr C do his thing, unlike with Leland. Mr C was totally using BOB for his supernatural gifts. Now Mr C just needs to be extracted from Richard once again, which will also cause Dale to be extracted as well, and forced into the White or Black Lodge. Or into direct audience with the Fireman in his theater castle that rests above an ocean of collective dreams and consciousness.

Thank you for this comment. Summed up Twin Peaks perfectly. Touching and beautifully said. Have a great day!

No it’s actually all a convoluted comment about violence on television. Didn’t you hear the god of TP speak on the matte?

I thought the whole family trauma aspect was incredibly obvious, yet people have tried to argue that it was the bug crawling in her mouth (for which she was asleep) that she was referring to with "something happened to me." What seems really clear for some of us misses other people completely.

No, it never occurred to me that a man in his seventies would spend four years of his life on something he didn't really care about just to mock his own audience. It has occurred to me many times, however, that this is how fans these days react when some person or franchise they like(d) does something they don't care for: they claim the show was "ruined on purpose", because this is totally how businesses make money: by spending millions on silly practical jokes. I think this is the go-to explanation for so many people because at least it implies that the fans are important, when I doubt Lynch spends any time at all wondering what the audience thinks when he makes something. I certainly don't.

Most things are by accident, if by "accident" you mean lacking in intent. Satanism isn't remotely a concern of mine...the modern Church of Satan doesn't even believe Satan is real-because he isn't-and use him as a figurehead analogous to Prometheus.

He knew, quite likely, that it was time for the door to open again. Cooper didn't come out, however, because he was prevented from leaving that way from the inside.

We never see that or hear any reference to it, so I can't assume it. It just sounded like a joke to me.

In what scene?

​@@Corn_Pone_Flicks right (3rd) monitor after Phillip disappeared, both cooper and gordon scene right after Cole asked "Where did he go"

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I just watched it again and found the exact time, he is walking right into the office on 3rd monitor the moment Gordon asks "And where is Chester Desmond"

NO. That is not Desmond. It's a man in a trench coat, in the FBI building. You can't see his face. Every agent: Cooper, Albert, Cole, Stanley...every agent wears one of those coats while in the field. They did not introduce the fact that Desmond is missing to just then go, "Oh, never mind; there he is," fifteen seconds later, without Cole noticing. A quarter-century later, Albert still says he vanished without a trace, so no, he didn't just show back up at work that same day. That makes no sense at all.

That's the "unofficial version" I bet

I fall in love with the Dougie-Cooper scenes more and more every rewatch.

That's actually really beautiful :)

Actually the coolest part was James. James was always cool.

@@ericmordis2960😂

Some bits of this one came out a bit grainy. The batteries in my lights were slowly dying during the course of the first recording session, so it got gradually darker over time.

In these days, the light is dying....

There is no analysis, he only lists weird stuff from the show without an explanation while quoting memes. The production quality I must agree is very impressive.

@@tomasjanik6617 yeah. I was really disappointed by the end of these videos when I realized the punchline was "nothing really means anything, but you can assign meaning to it if you want I guess."

@@tomasjanik6617 "Quoting memes?" The heck are you talking about? I hate so-called "memes."

Eileen Farrar someone crashed their car into the electric pilon only got electric back this morning

On first watch, some of the music I liked, some not so much. Now that I've rewatched the series a half a dozen times, I look forward to every music performance at the end. They are all so great. I had to buy the soundtrack I loved it so much.

I agree 1000-fold... the audio fidelity of whatever system you're using is absolutely PIVOTAL to truly experiencing season 3... so spring for a decent one, if you don't have one already

I ate a whole pie watching this, but slice by slice.

"HOT"!!

I found this video just as I sat down with a cup.

good one!

Could be. The Black Lodge does have the whole "fire" theme going throughout.

I attempted watching a 4 hr long theory video on twin peaks, apparently it's something to do with the whites of the eyes...or something? Tbh I gave up because it made less sense ! There's also the white horse thing aswel ? God knows !

Gotta light?

You want to play with fire, boy?

Kevin Maschler it’s a great day when corn 🌽 pone flicks release a new TP video.

From Ireland I Agree 😌🔥💜🌹⌛🇮🇪🎬

I want to believe so

Well, I'm just this guy, you know?

He said that DL told him "you're a talisman"

He represents Lynch’s editing power.

His mask (which is basically a painted face and not a mask) seem very inspired of some white masks with prolonged noses that have been used by native Indians, I think it was. i0.wp.com/25yearslatersite.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/1*jpQErvnSdr1juIlIXPskyQ.jpeg?resize=662%2C441&ssl=1 There's some speculation going on in this thread, but I don't know if we'll be any wiser from reading it. 25yearslatersite.com/2019/02/06/jumping-kokopelli/

It was brilliant is all I know.

Thanks, but I put just as much effort into my non-Peaks videos, so stick around.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Of course, man! Your content is top notch. Love from Brazil :)

Well, it is now. I just had some time-sensitive stuff to do before coming back to it.

That's part of why I found the scene so funny...it just comes completely out of nowhere.

I can get behind that idea

More like old people driving off into a nursing home !

AnvilPro100 I hope we don’t get another season to be honest. This ended perfectly

I don't think there's been any point in my life when I would've been considered "cool." At least James can play guitar.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks at least you can edit the shit out of a video, and contribute something profound to the Twin Peaks analyst universe. That is cool as fuck my dude. Just you, and eye.

It would be interesting if it turned out that she was reacting to something that had nothing at all to do with Laura. A whole other story could launch from there, if they want it to.

Corn Pone Flicks it just bothers me when people aren’t looking where they’re going, she was RUNNING with hands over her face! Zero consideration for herself or anyone or ANYTHING in her way! Even if tears filled her eyes, like wtf?!?

@@ValenteOchoaJr Maybe her eyes were permanently shut ala woman who fell from vortex.

@@lauranceemory4448 A seeing person covering their face would be considerably more likely to run screaming across a lawn, than a permanently blind person.

Maybe it's the Carrie Page of that timeline.

I do plan on doing INLAND EMPIRE someday, just not right away. I've got too many other ideas cued up.

I want Twin Peaks season 4, but with complete artistic freedom for Lynch to do whatever. Perhaps only use Cooper, Laura/Carrie, Cordon Cole or something like that, and of course use the Twin Peaks mythos freely where it fits.

I found his approach kind of pompous, don't get me wrong, the basis of his theory I find very plausible and well thought out - so much that I believe that's definitely what Lynch meant in some form. But that's just the first two hours of his video. The second two and a half to me are just stretching everything a bit too far in order to explain as much as he can. I mean, the part where he "decrypts" Mike's poem is hilarious. So many of his explanations require so much backwards, recursive thought, it's impossible that Lynch, or pretty much anyone could have come up with them. And he still didn't answer every question.

That’s a great suggestion. For me, the CP and Twin Perfect treatments are by far the best I’ve come across. These two sites have been my own personal garmonbozia. Twin Perfect has a deeper, and more completely coherent view of the underlying message in the allegory that is Twin Peaks. The details and connections that CP bring are encyclopedic, like Ken Jennings, Jr level. And his vids and commentaries are far more entertaining. The Corn Pone host’s commentary on Twin Perfect would be make the dive even deeper. Mr. Cone Pone, sir, could it happen?

@@eugeneflynn7435 THIS. These are the words that I was lacking to describe the two videos. ALLEGORY VS ENCYCLOPEDIA. That is how Twin Perfect & CPF are so similar, yet different. They both made top-tier videos that are nearly equal in (total) length, both are "true", and both took time & care to make. Thanks!!

Whoopsie! After reading more of CP’s responses to the (too) many references to the 4.5 hr vid in the comments, I now recognize the impertinence and futility of offering this suggestion. No slight intended. I am still happily mired in the Lynchian universe for the time being, and am hopeful that CP finds something somewhere that would incite him to bring us another vid touching on anything in that universe. Deep and humble gratitude for expanding our knowledge and appreciation of Twin Peaks, in particular.

@@eugeneflynn7435 No doubt.✌

The ending of season 2 bugged me because it was obviously not supposed to be the ending. They were clearly (and by their own admission) trying to generate interest for a third season. I think the absence of any kind of true closure is, in a way, probably necessary for something like this, though.

Enjoy

quite beautiful i might add! thank you...

Could be, but the only element I've heard anyone bring up to indicate a connection is the use of the word "page," which is awfully rickety. Until something is written by the show's creators regarding that missing page, it remains just a bit of whimsy to think on. (Incidentally, the "unofficial" version is the version where she dies, not the other way around.)

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks You're right, I mixed up my versions, oops. I haven't seen anyone connecting it to the missing page either, but what I just posted felt like it fit. I never considered the theory until hearing about it in your video. Laura has mentioned Cooper as someone she's only seen in dreams. I'm very sure that the final scene is one of those dreams that are also part of a lodge-type reality (Coop is experiencing them even though they are "dreams"). The ending with a voice clip of Sarah calling to Laura from downstairs cements this in my mind. Because Laura could only be hearing it if she was asleep in her bed as opposed to having died the night before. It's feels like another instance of using previous footage and giving it new meaning (like the scream where Laura sees Coop in the woods with footage from FWWM). The fact that Laura records in her diary her weird dreams involving the lodge and Coop fits with this dream where Coop travels through lodges to meet her once again.

interesting !!

of course it's missing: someone Carry Page far far away. My apologies

How can you ever see the white in your own eyes without a mirror?

Mrs Chalfont's grandson

Maybe it was one of Ronette's friends.

Interesting thought.

What suggests that that was Billy? That name is not mentioned in that scene.

​@@Corn_Pone_Flicks 1. Billy got his nose broken later you can see him in the prison. 2. Audrey come there because she was sure Billy was there. 3. Audrey wanted to leave when saw Billy with another girl 4. Charlie didn't want to tell Audrey that when he got a phone call.

Nothing says the guy in the jail is Billy, either. Audrey ISN'T sure Billy is at the Roadhouse...she states numerous times that BIlly hated it. We don't know that that's why Audrey wanted to leave. We don't know she's even really there, since a second later she's staring into a mirror in a white room. And we don't know what was said to Charlie in the phone call, so I'm not seeing anything that could count as evidence.

Barney is the name of the guy who gets hit at the end of Audrey's dance.

Jeremy Callahan really? I thought Lynch got lazy with that scene... felt too childish to me. good thing you enjoyed it so much. Maybe it’s me...

I don't know...what about it, aside from everybody mentioning it constantly?

Okay, let me start by saying I'm not trying to be mean, but your post is very confused and hard to follow...I have no idea what you're trying to get at half the time, so I'll do my best to respond. To start with, I have no idea who Anael Honing is or what her comment was, but I've replied to hundreds of comments, and can hardly be expected to remember them all. I don't know why my apparent agreement with whatever she said is relevant to my disinterest in watching a four and a half-hour video, but just because I may have agreed with her idea doesn't mean I got the idea from her. And most of my videos are silly, because I don't believe in taking things too seriously. Again, I don't see what relevance that has to anything. I really don't see what our name has to do with anything, either, but "corn pone" is just another term for cornbread. We've been using that name since 1989, and some people still recognize it, which is the only reason I haven't changed it to something less likely to be misread. That said, I cannot follow the logic behind your second paragraph at all, where your lead sentence somehow tries to link the fact that IMDb can be edited, my attitude towards the Twin Perfect video, and what you thought our name meant, three things that have nothing to do with each other. My recommendation that people skip any ads on my videos comes from the fact that I hate advertising, especially when it interrupts the flow of my video, and I would block any/all of it if it was still possible, which it used to be. Again, I don't know what this has to do with why we aren't sponsored ( or why that matters), but I'll answer that: I don't need a sponsor. I have everything I need to make videos, I don't need revenue from ads or viewers, I have no interest in being beholden to any outside parties with regards to what videos I make, so I don't need/want sponsorship. So yes, I DO base my analyses on the works of the show's creators, and not other fans, and the fact that I agree with some of the comments (and disagree with others) does not mean they were the source of those ideas. I'd be frankly amazed if there weren't plenty of other people out there who already had thought of many of the same things I did. And finally, I did not say my previous video would be my last on the subject, because it was never going to be, and I did in fact reply to many people telling them there would be one more.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks I wasn't trying to be mean either. I couldn't really follow what YOU wrote either, so..*shrug* I like your essays a lot, and this one blew my mind. Take Care dude.✌

that's the last one :(

@@kostanzu Bitter sweet but a fantastic ending!

@@ShinySephiroth1 could not agree more :) and :(

I think the newest video game I've played is Afterburner, from 1987.

People always seem to assert, without any spoken justification, that everything Lynch does is deliberate and done for a specific reason. Even if that's true, they do oddly tend to ignore the likelihood that said reason might be for emotional response or aesthetics, always instead assuming it's plot-related. I mean, the guy stated off as a painter, and painting isn't really a narrative medium. I think large portions of his film work aren't meant to be, either.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks the problem I have with that line of thinking is that it's a convenient way to justify not even attempting to think about what it could possibly mean. When you suppose that something means nothing, you're robbing it of all the possible meanings it could have.

Funnily enough Audrey also, paralelling ben and frank, never mentions having a son either. I guess it's possible it just doesn't come up, but given that Richard is more prominent than Audrey in the show it's definitely strange. If I remember rightly it's mentioned in the final dossier that the Horne family refuses to comment on Audrey's whereabouts, and since she clearly doesn't *actually* go to the roadhouse in that scene, I assume it's safe to say she's either in care somewhere or in some kind of unstable state of conciousness. It's probably also worth noting that Audrey is one of the few characters that dresses the same way she did in the original show, her face and hair done the same. Most of the characters have an updated style, shit even james has a different jacket (and he's always been cool). It's also interesting that Audrey is shown to be looking into a mirror in that final shot- I guess it could be literal in that perhaps the physical presence of her own reflection briefly snaps her out of whatever state she's actually in as she's presented an image of herself that contridicts what she's percieving, but knowing Lynch it's also possible that the presence of a mirror could have something paralleling a mirrors function in dreams, often showing grotesque versions that reflect our own super ego and vision of ourselves Knowing Lynch it's possible there isn't any interpretation with more evidence or validity than another and he simply gave enough bait for a bunch of different stuff to make sense- who knows.

@@wt9380 Yup very true. I do hate the idea that Lynch could be baiting the audience to make some sense out of something he himself hasn't figured out, but sometimes it really does feel that way. There's a precedent for it too. In one interview, Michael J. Anderson said that while in the editing room, Lynch put together a sequence of on set experimentation exclaiming "maybe that's what I meant by that", which lends some credibility to the idea that Lynch himself may not have a full blueprint of hidden meaning and symbolism. ONE ONE NINE!

That’s actually very smart. Are you a psychologist

@Eileen Farrar That's true. If Lynch wanted that girl to be young Sarah he would have chosen an actress somewhat similar to Laura.

Agreed...in the book, the horse ended up dying, and she blamed herself for it, though I don't recall the exact details.

They used to be even lower, so I guess some good has come of it.

why is the guy from The Shining dead inside her home?

@@Georgie2500 That´s the question. :)

@@cellarroomproduction3943 I know Lynch liked Kubrick and all that but isn't it safer to assume it was just a random dude?

Is there any other kind of day at the office? I get through them by writing these videos there when I should be working. Glad it brightened things up.