Twin Peaks - Trying to understand the different timelines 

All I know is Bob backwards is Bob.

Never in a million years would I have ever believed Lynch and Frost could make something better than Twin Peaks season 1. One of those few works of visual art that is impossible to improve upon. BUT THEY DID IT!!!! Twin Peaks: The Return is absolute genius! After those first two episodes (ended by the Chromatics "Shadow" at the Roadhouse) I wept from being overwhelmed by the intelligence, confidence, and elegance of the episodes. I thought to myself "thank goodness this wasn't just a cash-grab." I have been reading a lot of hate for the new season from fans of the 90's shows, and I must confess to feeling a little bit sorry for them. Because THIS, season 3, THIS IS DAVID LYNCH. Without compromise, without a filter, and without any corporate suits second-guessing him. Season 3 is more Twin Peaks than Twin Peaks. Anyway, on to my actual point: I love your theories, and I love hearing you discuss them. A lot of people don't get why Cooper isn't "Cooper", but it really makes complete sense why in 80% of the season we are dealing with Dougie, and not Dale. You have a very warm and welcoming voice. Personally, I have given up trying to figure out the solutions to the myriad puzzles Lynch has presented us with and simply chosen to go along for the ride. I'm just surrendering my eyes and emotions to him completely and going with whatever he shows me, regardless of how ridiculous it may seem. The long takes and pauses are brilliant and very organic filmmaking, and nothing about them is unnecessary, indulgent, or boring. I consider the random vignettes, though connected to the "big picture", beautiful little slices of life. The Roadhouse performances, for instance. Poor little Ruby, carried away and placed on the floor by the two bikers . . . It's heartwrenching, beautiful stuff. And the scene with the accountant and the Green Tea Latte is priceless. Enchanting, quirky. I love it!! Twin Peaks: The Return contains some of Lynch's most emotional and empathetic work to date.

Now I get the glitching: the windows flickering in the lear jet, the diner, Audrey's situation - all caused by Cooper's disruption of the timeline

The fact that Cooper and Mike cared to make an improved version of Douglas Jones seem to point that the past wouldn't be erased.

I think one interesting point regarding dreams and the alternate timelines is that, when waking, people find it difficult to remember what they were dreaming which is just like how, when the timelines change, people find it hard to remember the "unofficial version." I think that when Cooper mentions that we live in a dream that he's not talking about a literal dream but that the timeline they're in is dreamlike and will soon be forgotten.

i'm rewatching season 1 & 2.... cause last time i saw them was like 15 years ago. Everything seems so cristal clear so far compared to season 3.... will rewatch fire walk with me too. I just think we need to watch it the way Lynch says... this is not a puzzle with a solution. Lynch and Frost are not using logic, they probably don't even agree with each other on the story.

"Are you still with me on this???" No... *rewinds

I think the third timeline is an actual reality created by The Fireman to lure Judy into, but it's also the dream of both Dale and Laura Palmer.

One chants out between two worlds.

I agree that the "Lodge timeline" seems separated from "human timelines", and it is a cool and fitting idea that Lodge entities can intervene on human timelines at any point they like.

We know there are at least two timelines. Beyond that it’s hard to speculate and I don’t like to overthink the implications of everything. I simply enjoy the emotional impact and understand the existential yearning we all have to make things better. We are all Cooper, trying to fix things. But there are always new problems when we intervene.

The Wow Lynch Wow episodes are almost as good as the show itself. Absolutely love this channel.

i don't know why but i love how enthusiastic and happy you get when you talk about Pete fishing

I think Carrie Page’s parents are Richard and Linda. Cooper and Diane went back in time the night they went into the supernatural realm. The next day they each woke up in different times in the natural realm. Diane as Linda remained in the past to give birth to and raise Carrie. Cooper woke in the present day. That is why the motel had expanded to two floors and his car was updated to a new model. They two birds with one stone were the sex act: Diane exorcising her demons from the abuse she received from bad Coop, and conceiving a replacement for Laura. Perhaps the fireman’s orb contained Carrie not Laura. I believe Laura’s vanishing in the woods was caused by possessed Sarah when she was smashing the picture. The entity inside her was trying to prevent Cooper from saving Laura. Sarah had the frogmoth inside her since childhood but she only became possessed after the supermarket scene. She freaked out when she saw the beef jerky because it was an omen that the woodsmen were coming. By the time Hawk went to check on her at home, she was already possessed. I know all the evidence for this version of events is not clearly there, but I can’t seem to move my head off this no matter what else I read or hear. In any case, I appreciate viewing your interpretations. I don’t always think you are right, but you have made some good observations that have helped me reconcile my thoughts. This show made such an impact on me. I can’t let it go.

Interesting and helpful. My only tweaks (some of this posted before): the Giant's chess game has a purpose, the confrontation of Laura and Judy (the final scene) as a reversal of the original confrontation of Bob and Laura (which Bob won with Laura's torment and death) and Lynch is more like a painter than a scientist, hence, the blurry images (that is, the difficulty of making sense of it, the inconsistencies, the dreams) are part of the feel he wants (and these draw us to the reality that all of us experience life as having mysterious elements, rather than fully logical explanations).

"It looks like we're.. 100 percent certain.. that WE'RE NOT SURE!" Oh Jerry, you nailed it. Rewatching again as yesterday was the 2 year anniversary!

It's a moebius infinite loop. I like the fact that the most important explanations are in episode 8, if you rotate 8 it give you the infinite symbol. Lynch probably tried to recreate lost highway loop to the whole universe of twin peaks , so all the cast will never really die, living in this loop of eternity forever...

Cooper's at the sycamore trees. He meets redhead Diane. They cross over but don't become Richard and Linda until the sex magic ritual and only after the hotel room sex does Diane become Linda and Coop is slowly turning into Richard even though he still seems to have some recollection of other timelines. So Coop finds Carrie only after the ritual sex magic act. So there are two crossing overs, the 430 one and the one after Coop and Diane have sex. It's weird but important to note, I think. Great video man. I'm itching for your next one.

The book stresses that everything that happened on camera played out the same in both shows with the only exception being Laura is missing, and Leland shot himself a year later. So there would of course be a few discrepancies in the first two seasons along with events in Fire Walk With Me, but the third season remains virtually untouched. Mark Frost even said in a recent interview that Laura was still killed, and wrapped in plastic, and that the events of the first two seasons still had to happen to motivate Cooper to go back and prevent Laura’s death. The new timeline paves over the old, but doesn’t erase it. So maybe that’s why certain supernatural entities and implied psychic characters will remember both versions going forward. Main ones being Sarah/Judy, Cooper and Gordon Cole. Sarah being possessed/hollowed out by Judy is obviously part of both timelines. She reacts to Cooper saving Laura as it would be happening for real time with Cooper. If that part got changed then we shouldn’t have seen a possessed Sarah before Cooper jumped back in time. My guess on Leland/BOB in the new timeline is that BOB abandoned Leland, and left him with the memories of raping Laura for years. He couldn’t live with himself and commits suicide a year later. BOB then goes through the same motions like killing Josie, and luring Earl to the Lodge. That much also remains unchanged. BOB’s mission is to still get Judy to the real world, so he makes a Cooper doppelgänger, takes Windom’s soul and now we have a being made up of the three. He can use Windom’s cunning, and resources, walk freely as an FBI agent, and with the help of BOB and the Woodsmen he would seemingly be super strong and immortal. This would also give him the know how and freedoms to build his criminal empire in the shadows.

I see it this way, imagine this movie story as a game of chess, the lodge (made of infinite unlocking rooms, where the white lodge is within too) is the board pocket: where the pawns go after “playing”, and the alternate realities are represented by the board itself. Now long story short, windom earle burns after bob got his soul, same as bad coop burns in the end therefore coop and laura suucceed in killing him and live inside the lodge peacefully by taking his place. This board pocket is in control of the reality: the chess board. The movie ends showing laura and coop in control of life events: the dream people live, finally routing the evil out of the lodge, meaning out of the control of this spinning realities: life. They win. They reunite. And judy, the last one standing after bob, is now just a pawn under their control, finally caged and not threating the giant anymore who still acts as a co-creator of the ultimate truth reality.

season 4 NEEDS to happen

Dear God.. I'm going to have to watch this again a couple times lol.. I'm with ya, my head is spinning. Awesome stuff!

What a fine explanation of this series. I mean I can't pretend to fully comprehend this video or its explanation but I definitely feel like I understand what happened in the series more as a whole. I love it!!! Keep making twin peaks vids you're doing a great job!!!! Thank you!!!!!

Amazing stuff, love this video. I've just finished reading the final dossier (late I know) and just now catching up on some further Twin Peaks videos I've missed. So glad to re-visit your channel again and see the new work. Thank you.

Fantastic video as always. I agree with you on the lodge timeline being different to the timelines outside of it. In particular the repeated scenes at the start and end of The Return. I almost feel like Cooper is returned to these moments as he hasn't completed what was/is required to progress and that the final still of he and Laura reveals that the cycle of finding/saving Laura has not been broken - that it may almost be like the infinity symbol; an unbreakable loop. More than that, however, the lodge seems to work not just on a different time line but different way of existing in time. It is clearly not a linear timeline. I can't really articulate any more...I need to re-watch everything, at the moment it's just good to get ideas down and have people like yourself helping us all along. Keep up the great work!

First: thank you, as always, for such a lucid and helpful analysis. I especially like your explanation of how the lodge "time" fits with the other timelines. I've always thought that that the lodges exist out of time, which is how/why things can seem to repeat, loop, glitch or otherwise behave in nonlinear ways--that's the effect of the lodges bleeding over into our world, or how things appear to someone who's not a lodge entity: we (through the eyes of characters who are not lodge entities) see its influence as a disruption, because we must exist in and perceive things in time (I hope this makes sense--it makes my brain hurt to think about it). I think this may be why Philip Jeffries, in whatever state he's in now, "sees" and shows Cooper time as an infinity sign; Jeffries is now a sort of Lodge entity, and he doesn't perceive time as linear. Second: Would you consider doing an edition dedicated to the Tremonds/Chalfonts? I know that would entail digging into past seasons and FWWM, but I'm fascinated by them, especially after the ending of the Return, and I'm itching to know more. Thanks again!

This analysis is money. A lot of twin peaks fans will say it is not necessary to break down the timelines, just focus on the emotional value. Not me.. understanding how the pieces fit together makes the entire saga more haunting and impactful. The show seems to have the same complexity and intricacy as our natural world. The same entropy. "What year is this?" still can't explain that.

Dude...thank you. You have no idea how much your videos have helped me.

I know this comments late but DAMN your great! Serioustly cant imagine watching or reading anything twin peaks related without later seeking out your insight and opinions on it... PLEASE DONT STOP!!!

Gordon cole has a dream about Monica bellucci who is a real person in our world. Gordon cole is David lynch’s avatar in the story he created. Dale tries to leave the black lodge through a socket marked “3” in the third episode but ends up leaving through “15” the episode he is fully restored to his original personality. Dale has become aware that he is a character in a story?

Wow dude wow ! While I can't wrap my head around your Lodge chess game I can look back and say " That was one damn fine work of art we were given! Like any work of art, the meaning is in the eye of the beholder. All theories are legitimate and I just love that they are continuing tributes to this Lynch/Frost Masterpiece ! Bravo my friend. Keep the theories coming and itch away !

I’m going to throw out a wild theory: Carrie knew the whole time she had forgotten a bit but you can see she was in on the plan. And that Cooper was NOT Coop. I suspect it was the “unofficial” Coop invaded by Bob and the “Page” reality was designed to lure Judy and Bob inside and then somehow become nullified by that scream, that memory, by creating a Temporal Paradox which would crash that existence into nonexistence. Real quick tho: a temporal paradox is when you do something like “the grandfather paradox”: that’s going back in time and creating circumstances that void your future existence and world. Cooper would have gotten caught in that one had his “unofficial” self not entered the lodge when he came to Twin Peaks to look for the now “Missing Laura” Or a “Causal loop” which a future event is the cause of a past event which is the cause of a future event. If you can time travel and lure and entity into a split reality and then trigger a Temporal Paradox where that reality ceased to exist, or trap them in that reality. Or get them in a Causal loop. You’re in business... That’s all I’ve got...

Its only by watching your videos that im able to keep my head clear as to what is or has happened!! But, I cannot express enough how happy it makes me that Laura Palmer is still alive, whether its future or whether its past!!

Bob doesn't seem to be time-dependant, but place-dependant, so when he dies, it doesn't matter WHEN or in what timeline this happens, as it just happens. Same as Judy, in my opinion. That's what makes me think that Judy is dead because she was physically present when Laura broke the world at the end of season 3.

It's possible that Bob left Leland for good in the altered timeline, when Laura was pronounced missing and simply became one with the Doppelganger when it happened. Leland could have killed himself, on his own accord, failing to come to grips with what Bob made him do and the weight of his missing daughter, etc. Just a thought. I do think it's possible that, because the Lodges aren't constrained by time or space and can manipulate it at will, it may be the case that destroying Bob in any timeline, kills him in all timelines. Lodge entities may have to be tethered to some absolute reality, to be able to travel and back and forth in time and from body to body, in the case of Bob. I think he's more than capable of leaving his host and possibly being in other host "vehicles" when the need arises to kill or feed off of suffering. How did Bob know about Cooper's incident in Pittsburgh? Why was Cooper whistling the same tune as Leland when he was swerving around in his car with Maddie in the trunk? Bob and Cooper seem to have an odd connection. The fact that Annie was sent back in time and Cooper was in the Red Room in a dream (which seem to be as real as 'reality' in Twin Peaks) that Laura had, well before Cooper entered the curtains to find Annie, tells us that Annie might actually have been a Lodge entity herself and Cooper may have already had a Doppelganger waiting for him, Bob-primed, in the Lodge. That's something I've considered. The Cooper who tells Laura not to take the ring, might have been Mr. C, because is she didn't put on the ring in the train car, Bob surely would have possessed her fully. Otherwise, it seems strange that MIKE, how wants Bob dead, would go out of his way to give her the ring. Anyway, as far as the timelines go, you're right on. Andy seeing the images he did, the way they were presented is interesting. The black and white images seem to be set in stone and constants. The color images indicate images that only exist in the original timeline and could be altered...and the #6 pole alternate between color and black and white. Richard Cooper sees the pole at Carrie's house, which means we probably are not going to see a victorious ending. So that explains the loop back to Laura whispering.

I’ve always seen it this way; Bob needed a vessel, and although using humans was fun, he had bigger plans, and when the one man who “had the co ordinates” came along, he knew which doppelgänger he needed. Especially once he couldn’t have Laura. Bob wanted Judy, and Mr C wanted out so he could have everything he wanted (sex, money etc). Two birds, one stone, so to speak. If that all makes sense....

I am re-watching this after watching your 1 year anniversary video for the first time a few minutes ago (awesome, btw!). I wanna thank you again for all the videos you uploaded while season three was playing out, I watched them all religiously every single week, and your season three coverage was tied with one other channel’s coverage for my no. 1 spot for TPTR shenanigans. I hope you continue to find more Twin Peaks subject matter to post videos about!

In my own head canon, the lodges/waiting room and their entities don't have timelines, and exist above the idea of a timeline. Also, Annie from the first timeline contacted Laura before the split, so there was only one timeline at that point. Like the fireman, I think, could easily see all timelines and understand and manipulate them.

Timeline1, Timeline 2 and Timeline 3 ALL leave me itchin' for a Season 4

Great job! Your explanation of the different timelines, and where they converge, is very well done. Or, at the very least, you explained it as best as one can haha 😂 'Twin Peaks' forever!

Great as always, WLW. My opinion is that Lodge entities aren't affected by the timeline changes and can see all of them at once. That's why we hear "Is it future or is it past?" so many times.

Holy Cow Batman What an analysis ! I loved it... Gonna have to digest this and rewatch many times with a note pad and the pause button. Thanks for sharing.

I keep going back to the scenes right before Cooper is dropped into non-existence. Mike is saying “Something is wrong” and one of the rooms Cooper enters is blurry...

I'm still trying to figure this show out! I wish we'd seen more of the alternate timeline. I wonder if anyone will ever dare re-edit to match up the timelines. I love your videos. I looked forward to them every week during the run of the show. Thanks!

I adore your videos and your opinions to Twin Peaks.

I think that the International Pilot Alternate Ending is actually the "True End" of Bob and the One Armed Man in the Alternate Timeline after Bob's "orb" had been smashed at the end of the original timeline - rendering Bob a "normal human" who depends on ritual to call upon the powers of the Black Lodge and Leland unpossessed but suicidal. (Note: I'm not the first to make this connection, but I noticed it as well)

Very important discussion and loved watching this journey of exploring timelines. Carrie Paige's being the the third one makes sense. My take on this is, that Cooper created the alternate timeline after killing Bob, so what we saw before (previous seasons at least) couldn't have had the alternate going along parallel with it, until Cooper traveled from 2017 to the past to create it. This implies that if we time-travel now, we can enter the alternate Missing Laura timeline, but if we had tried it in the 90s, it never existed. Unless, at that time, David Lynch and Frost had already thought of it and these events, as we couldn't see Cooper scaring Laura, but we do see her getting scared. We don't know what Lynch had in mind at that time, or if he had shot any character, if not Cooper.

i think the 'funny thing' coop does with his hand when he leaves the red room for the 'last' time is extremely significant because every time he left before he was accompanied by MIKE. Seems to me like this is the first time he actually had a clear purpose of what he has to do. His 'aha' to whatever Laura whispered seemed like some sort of a painful acceptance. As if he knew that what he has to do is horryfing but none the less necessary. I don't know. So far I've been supporting two theories - one that Coop is acting as Fireman tells him to, remembers 430, Richard and Linda and his mission, he successfully brings Carrie to Palmer house and then is baffled and lost. Then Laura screams remembering her identity clearly destroying Judy's dream/pocket dimension. Second theory is based on FBI pins appearing and disappearing which might signify the different timelines and loops. Basically 'pinned' Coop fucks up by bringing Carrie to Palmer house and Judy. Next Coop - unpinned is the one we see as Dougie throughout the series, he comes from the alternate timeline. He does the very same thing pinned Coop does BUT when the superimposed head appears and the reality goes dark in the sheriff's station, Coop is summoned before the Fireman - the first scene of the show is also chronologically the last. Fireman reminds Coop about 430, Richard and Linda preventing another loop to happen. Whatever this Cooper afterwards does is unknown. That being said, putting both of these theories aside - I really like your take of B&W scenes to be in the past. Fireman creates Laura and summons her guardian angel - Cooper, then he says 'you are far away' because Dale's part in the story is yet to begin. Chess game. What's the outcome of Fireman's plan then? Does he succeed then through Coop in part 18? Damn, that's itchy

I was born February 8th 1989 so i'm happy to say i'm part of the alternate timeline lol

With BOB, I'm really confused. On one hand, as an entity that moves beyond time and space, and can, presumably, appear on any timeline (like Joudy, MIKE or The Fireman), surely if he's destroyed on any timeline he's destroyed for good? However, if BOB was destroyed for good...why did Cooper bother going back to save Laura? Unless Leland would have killed her regardless of BOB's involvement? I only say that because Lynch is on record saying he's annoyed that Leland was presented as a good character, whereas he always saw he and BOB's relationship being more of a mutual thing... That's the part I can't figure out. I'm also still convinced Sarah would have gone that way on either timeline, personally.

Thanks again, another damn fine video.. Confusion reigns regarding the timelines, and I think you've done a heck of a job trying to explain the almost unexplainable.. I'm not sure of much, but I know I'm also itching for season 4, please! ❤️🏔️🏔️☕🦉🔥🔫😎♥️

Liking your videos bro, but I swear if I took a shot every time you say timeline I'd be wasted.

It’s all so brilliant and intense. Thank you for this excellent theory, it’s helped me reconsolidate. For now at least.

Mind bending stuff! Awesome channel and thanks for reminding me just how amazing Lynch, Frost and Twin Peaks really are!

Just like a mosquito bite...can't stop itching, nor do I want to :)

I just love the way you edit and remix the clips and images to go with your voiceovers. Beautiful!

I really think there will be another season. All this talk with Cole remembering the unofficial version makes me think he will be a big factor between the two timelines

Great job, I think you're on to something with the 3 timeline theory. The Carrie Page timeline allows for so many possibilities like new characters or different fates for old characters. You can tell I'm holding out hope for a fourth season.

Is it safe to assume Maddie is alive and well?

“The less I know, the more I love it.” This is what makes Twin Peaks so awesome and fun.

Why wouldn't the two timelines be the same up until Laura's disappearance? The only thing Cooper changed was taking Laura into the woods (making her disappear instead of being murdered) so there's no reason for anything prior to Laura's disappearance being any different in either timeline.

I also think Mike asking cooper if it’s future or past, is legit a question to cooper, where coop saves Laura and goes back to the red room, it’s mike asking him if it’s the future for coop or the past, to get s gauge on where to send him now? Maybe?

I think Irene’s comment is right on. I think the overall point in Twin Peaks is learn to deal with bad things that happen in life, ie, a loved one is killed or dies of disease or suicide, that you can’t actually change that. I think that’s why there is the scream at the very end, the murder still happened. I’ve noticed that about Lynch in general, that the main point in his movies isn’t in figuring out some trick ending, it’s more about the journey and the character of people and how they (we) treat each other, a take or reflection on current society morals, in other words.

I think we can safely say for certain that no mater how any time lines there are or aren't, the Lodges/red room a singular and constant across them. It can probably be effect by all/any of them but they will persist as does human nature.

About that hand-waving thing that Cooper does while in the Red Room... this seems to be a feature I haven't heard or seen anyone mention. That sort of stuff happened in the original Twin Peaks. I can distinctly remember Hawk and/or Harry Truman shaking while their hand is on the window blinds (in the Sheriff station). It also happens to Major Briggs and I'm sure a few others.

I believe that there are several dimensions in the Twin Peaks universe, and they run the spectrum of proximity to the real world. The furthest away from our reality is the show Invitation to Love, the show that Twin Peaks characters watch. The next dimension includes Twin Peaks, and it’s the one we’ve been most familiar with. The next dimension is an overlap between Twin Peaks and the real world. This is where some super cool 4th wall breaking takes place. You’ve got Twin Peaks characters with new names, Gordon Cole looking at his own (or should I say David Lynch’s own) art gallery in the real world next to the scene’s filming location. You’ve also got the real-life current owner of the Palmer house playing a character with a traditional Twin Peaks name. And I’m not even including the Black Lodge or any of the other dimensions or dimensional pockets we’ve seen. But you have to let it sink in first about the different types of dimensions before trying to organize thoughts related to timelines and changes in timelines. The Twin Peaks dimension has experienced at least two timelines, with the split happening in 1989 when Laura was bodily transported to Odessa, TX-but within the context of the half-and-half Twin Peaks/Real World dimension. In other words, Laura didn’t travel through time (Mark Frost has already confirmed that at the end of The Return only one character time travels-and that’s Cooper); instead, she was bodily transported from the 1989 Twin Peaks dimension into the 1989 half-and-half dimension. Her identity was changed to Carrie Page, she forgot her existence as Laura Palmer, and she lives in that separate dimension (which Cooper and Diane access at the 430th mile) for the next 25+ years.

What if you envision the timeline not as a funnel-shaped spiral, larger at one end than the other, but as the inside of a straight cylinder - a spiral staircase ascending up (or descending down) the inside? If you take the "Human" timeline as the staircase, it loops back on itself (either above or below itself) as it continues up (or down) the cylinder interior. And if the Lodge timeline is the interior surface of the cylinder, drawing a straight line from the top of the cylinder to the bottom intersects the "Human" timeline at at multiple points (both future and past, depending on your point of view). You could even take a single point on the Human timeline (the spiral staircase), move slightly left or right along the curved cylinder interior (in the Lodge timeframe) and start another spiral staircase - another Human timeline that will run parallel to the original. In fact, viewing it this way, you could create as many separate parallel Human timelines as you wanted, all running separately from (while parallel to) one another, but still connected by their origin point (which split off from the original Human spiral timeline or one of the alternates).

You're absolutely right, the more I try to wrap.my.mind around what's happened the more lost I become. The more answers we get the more questions arise. And I love it. The whole point of the original Twin Peaks was to never satisfy that itch; the mystery of who killed Laura Palmer. The studio forced lynch and frost to write a closer and it took away a vital part of the show, just as the supernatural stuff with the lodges and fireman start being explained. Lol just as it starts to go downhill and lose its audience it becomes more interesting in an x files way. I really wish Lynch was able to have his way and do the show how he intended originally. Still love it though. Love things that really make you think and break them down.

I think Coop's forever stuck in time loop.

A new reality would be saved Laura Palmer. But saved Laura is immediately grabbed into another dimension, where she is Carrie. Looking forward for season 4.

i know it's not the same actor, but i like to think the "truck you" guy is leo in the alternate timeline. since leo drove was a trucker and just was not a good person.

I don't know if I see it so much as two separate entities - bob and/or evil coop, but rather it is about how the evil of Bob effects someone. I know in Leland's case it definitely comes off as a type of possession type thing, but I still kinda lean toward thinking of Bob as more of a sort of force, the way badness (in opposition to goodness) can posses people and thus embody that force.

Maybe not strictly a TIMELINE, but a whole universe. Deer Meadow, Twin Peaks, Odessa (possibly Buenos Aires, etc.). They're all the story of the little girl who lived down the lane. Dark, darker, darkest. Remember when Briggs says something about how he has been places. Carl says something like that, too, and that he prefers to stay where he is. Fat Trout is a portal. The Dutchman is a portal. I think they're portals to other universes and some people like Carl, Briggs, and Chalfont, etc. can go between them with their own identities.

You get me every time, deep thinking.. Maybe some clues... ARM PIT RASH

Hi there, I'm super late to this party. I've loved Twin Peaks for over 25 years, but when The Return came out I'd been freshly diagnosed with MS and was in grad school to boot, was just a really crazy time in my life and not the time for thinky puzzle box interpretive art television. I finally got back to it about a month ago, watching it all from the beginning and FINALLY, after close to three decades, getting back to my man Agent Cooper who's been stuck in that wretched Black Lodge in my mind since the '90s! I haven't gone through all your videos yet, but I have watched a LOT of Twin Peaks theory videos on youtube and read a LOT of Twin Peaks theory in the past month and let me say I've enjoyed yours the most -- you don't try to preach to anyone, you don't try to act like you have all the answers, you're not insulting me at my big age with gimmicks and skits. What you are providing me is really interesting insights and observations and I have thoroughly enjoyed them. One of the wonderful things about Lynch's work is how successful it is as interpretive art. I see so much value in so many disparate theories and I have plucked pieces from so many people's theories that I like to cobble together my own, and I really have enjoyed a lot of your insights. I will definitely have to give your Sopranos videos a shot. My roommates have never seen that in full, we are watching it from the beginning. Cheers and thanks for the content!

The events end with Laura's scream. The last shot, in the Black Lodge, is a callback, it doesn't indicate where they are.

The symbol for Judy, as shown by Jeffries, seems to show a timeline with a box in the middle. This box maybe represents the "black box" of the subconscious.

Time for the Lodges is like a Mobius Strip. You keep traveling in one direction, but you eventually get back where you started. And, when you reach the same point again, you are on the other side of the strip. So, that is why we keep seeing things repeat but the orientation is different. You can't orient a point on the mobius strip to a point outside the strip.

Focusing only on "timelines" doesn't represent correctly the analogic hierarchy (a thing/person in a dream symbolizes something else in the wake world): as Laura didn't die, everything we saw in the series, including the Carrie Page "timeline", is actually a dream, Laura's dream. The owls are not what they seem: yes, the owl symbol is actually the alarm clock symbol, that Laura forgot to activate. Coop was just a made-up character in a dream, and as soon as Laura is awaken by Sarah he "doesn't exist anymore, at least not in the usual sense".

Not sure if this was mentioned before but maybe each time Laura kept disappearing from Cooper’s hand means she has turn up missing in the original timeline.

There's a great theory that fits nice into yours. Alternate reality where Carrie Page lived is a trap arranged by Giant/Fireman to lure Judy into - not by Judy to steal Laura! So Laura was indeed ripped away from both timelines into that "pocket reality" by White Lodge not Judy and that's why Judy/Sarah so pissed off. Laura/Carrie just stays there until Coop and Diane lure Judy into that pocket reality by having weird sex which reminds Diane of being raped by Coop's doppelganger so she releases enough garmonbozia (pain and sorrow) to attract Judy. Coop/Richard knows he's on suicide mission (Giant told him "Richard and Linda" and Coop understood! and "it can't be said aloud now" so Judy doesn't understand the plan). Pocket reality will explode and kill everyone in it when Coop brings Laura to Judy and he knows it so this is why he's so withdrawn and doesn't care about dead guy etc. They eventually succeeded: Laura remembered everything so "garmonbozia bomb" inside of her explodes as well as electricity in palmers house and basically everything goes into non-existence. Final credits with picture of Laura whispering to Coop is just an epitaphy to them. What she was whispering we can only guess but maybe it's something like "You killed me" - after all he looked very scared and this is what he told about his first lodge dream back in Season 1: Laura told me who killed her.

I lived on Judy Circle when my mom introduced Twin Peaks to me I was 16 and pregnant. Laura was dead at 17 years old.

Amazing as always! What I want to know is....what the giant/fireman meant by "it is in our house now" in episode 1 season 3

I think the "Carrie Page" timeline is separate from the altered timeline. I've been calling it the "doppleganger world", which I think might have existed in tandem with the normal world for a long time.

You should really consider covering more shows like the new season of True Detective. Your analysis is amazing and you have a great voice for it. Great job! Keep up the great work!

I think knowing about the paradoxes it is safe to say in all realities what is probably being whispered is that her death is inevitable but that's just my interpretation and will probably never be answered because sometimes a lack of exposition is better than exposition.

Dammit! I need to read the Final Dossier already so I can watch more of your videos. I'm laggin'.

Two major pre-existing references to what's happening with the split timelines are: a) 12 RAINBOW TROUT and b) "10 is The # of Completion" A clue: both #s refer to _episodes_ of a certain season. The first is a set of them, the other is to a single specific one. Another clue: "Gotta Light?" is what Dick utters just before his cigarette triggers the sprinklers in the sheriffs' station, 'triggering' Leland's commission of suicide. Have fun chasing where this duality-recognition leads; you can go on and on with the very many doppelganger-like callbacks ('"...The King and I" is another, among >10 more) that occur in two seasons 25 yrs apart. 'Beyond Life and Death' is brimming with still more clues. It is a real mind-phuck, and something I'd yet to notice anyone else but SpaceCadet talk about.

I never noticed that DoppelDale used Windom Earl’s communication briefcase! That was totally lost on me! 😳

Good video! I was worried you'd try to oversimplify the story-line into something more conventional; but you did a good job pointing out the evidence and different possibilities. I never really worry about the meaning or plot of entertainment too much - I kind of feel like the style is the content. But, it's exactly as you say, "It's some damn fine itching, and I can't stop scratching." Now we just have to hope for a season 4! If not, I hope David Lynch still returns to directing, he's still got a master's touch.

I only watched season 3, you got so good theories but i have to check it myself, good to see the points.. i always had a Feeling the Red room is a Dimension or gate to time space.. I think your Mr. C Video is the key to a lot of points!!

Since 8 is a significant number to my husband and I, I noticed that the number 8 appears more than once. Its in the black and white scenes with the Fireman and becomes an infinity symbol and also at the Dutchman’s lodge, Mr. C goes into room 8 or comes out of it …I cant remember. Either way, Im sure the 8 as an infinity symbol as it pertains to time and timelines being infinite and inter looping is a thing. Just a random observation lol

Based on the characters that appear there, discussions of the "Dweller on the Threshold" and Lynch's own interview comments, it seems fairly clear that the "Red Room" is NOT the Black Lodge. It's the "waiting room", through which one can pass to either the Black or White Lodge. This makes the most sense, and syncs with the Giant/Fireman appearing there, as well as Laura being lifted away by the angel during FWwM. The actual lodges weren't seen until S.3, as the Fireman's lodgings visited by Andy, and the "apartment" above the Convenience Store -- aka The Dutchman.

Love the maddening logic of the video and I agree there are more than just the two timelines involved here. Even from the first promo we were told "it is happening again". Very Lynchian to hide such a major clue in plain sight. That is the second mention of that phrase which gives us possibly 3 timelines and that's just the starting point. Is it Future or is it past? IMHO some of the waiting room and white lodge scenes we saw in S3 were from the future, ie beyond the end of season 3. There seems to be little doubt that the events we see in S3 are not in chronological order. Why would that be? Possibly because Cooper is not the only one travelling in time or potentially altering the timelines. Who else? Well... When Major Briggs came back after vanishing he was dressed as if he had been in the past or at least a different time to his own, and he was mentally confused in the same way that we find happening to agent TP in the book - as if the timelines are resetting themselves in his head, so had the Fireman been using him in the same way we saw him using Cooper, ie as a piece in the 4D chess game? Perhaps giving him a mission in the pre-Coop days of TP? Perhaps hunting his own evil doppelganger, because as evil as bad Coop was he was basically acting for selfish reasons so his effect on the world as a whole was limited but an evil Briggs, given his status and knowledge, could do incalculable harm on a much bigger scale. We see bad Coop burning BUT he is not being destroyed or consumed by the fire. Is he resisting the attempt to destroy him, and if so does he succeed? If he is still around in some form or another then we have a third potential time traveller with good reason to alter events. Side note: Chet Desmond didn't just vanish in FWWM, the screen/world around him basically faded to black - as if his timeline had suddenly been altered or curtailed maybe?? By whom? Suspect 4 has to be Gordon Cole himself. His apparently confused state and odd behaviour at times may not be just a side effect of his hearing loss. if he has time travelled then the timelines may be constantly resetting in his mind. He certainly has knowledge of things that can't be readily explained. And that nuclear explosion picture in his office? Co-incidence or a reminder to himself of the "starting point". Cole is smart enough to have buried clues for each new version of himself to uncover to remind him of the official and unofficial versions. Philip Jeffries - The Missing Pieces proved he was a time traveller although we don't know how he managed it, so is his current condition a consequence of something that went wrong on a mission? Is it "slippery in here" because the timelines are in flux constantly? Also, why is he in the Black Lodge? (In my mind the red room/waiting room is a space between the lodges where entities from both sides can meet on neutral ground and we have seen the white lodge so either the Dutchmans is the black lodge or we have yet to actually see it). Is this perhaps an evil Jeffries in which case why is Coop trusting his knowledge? Is he a prisoner in the black lodge in which case why did they allow Coop to get access, unless that was part of their 4D game played by the Fireman's opponent? The Fireman's real opposite, whoever he may be, in the Black Lodge. The white lodge clearly existed before Judy and Bob appeared so we have to assume the Black Lodge also did, and what we are seeing is a battle between the lodges for control of a new resource, ie the newly created Judy and Bob. In fact all the entities we see above the convenience store came through from elsewhere AFTER the lodges were extant so these entities are not in charge of it - at least they weren't at the start. They are all resources/weapons and the Lodges are battling for control of them. So who is running the Black Lodge, acting as the Fireman's opponent?? For balance we have to assume he has equal powers to those of the Fireman so time travel suspect number 6, then. Which makes number 7 the Fireman himself . I assume the Fireman helped Coop out of that non-existence predicament the same way he changed bad Coop's arrival point from Laura Palmer's House to the Sheriffs Station so if he can do that he can probably time travel. The arm and doppelganger arm - if it/they can send Coop to non-existence then it's a fair assumption they can time travel as well. Reverse logic. and finally, possibly, Mike. At times he appears to help Coop, at others he seems to be more interested in his own schemes within schemes. Can we be sure why he helped Coop out of the Dougie predicament ? So we have 8 or possibly 9 other potential travellers in time who may have been active god knows where or when or how often. That's a lot of potential alternative timelines. Maybe the dreams so prevalent in seasons 1 and 2 were memories from altered realities running around Coop's head after previous incursions? God, TP is such an onion field, as is Lynch's mind lol but that's why we love it. If he laid it all out in black and white I suspect we'd be disappointed so I'm happy to be on the never ending journey of supposition and guesswork - keep 'em coming please Mr L.

Carrie page in the “real world” aka our world? Integrated cooper and Laura end up in our real world of Odessa, Texas and New York City? Twin peaks was “inside of a dream” the real world fictional story. Owner of Laura’s house is a non-actor, non-character who seems to recognize Laura. From the tv show “twin peaks” which exists in her world?

I think Carrie's and what you refer to as the Alternate time lines are the same. Coop exited the Lodge in the wrong time line and had to cross over to get to Carrie and bring her home. On a side note I think the Tremonds were in Carrie world to show a false entrance to another domain, much the same form the Tremond encounter by Donna. Sarah is in there and screaming for her daughter.

6 months later, i can talk about it too again. I saw the 3rd season again and just finished the final dossier. I think, what happend here is, the same thing what itachi did to kabuto, from the naruto series (anime). Kabuto was stuck in a loop, where he did the same mistake over and over and over again, whitout realizing the loop. Until one day, he becomes clear with himself and he destroyed the loop. Thats maybe the same thing with Cooper. He CAN'T rescue her. He CAN'T mess with the time. And now he is lost in this loop. Forever and ever. But what just Preston said in the book? We can't give up. Never

I believe the Trinity test split the single timeline into three timelines (and I just now see the interesting connection and the use of that test over any others as it's named "Trinity" reiterating the 3 idea , A (the original timeline) and two others. Parts of the Trinity explosion and reaction were looped twice one time and looped three times repeatedly and at this moment, Cooper and Dianne are somewhere in likely the sixties judging by the car in Timeline C, in Timeline B somewhere in the middle, Cooper is Richard, and we don't know who Linda is but assume it's Dianne. Cooper is a bit confused as I believe he connects with himself across all three timelines and is fighting the Unholy Mother in all three timelines and all three era's simultaneously. Cooper is having to ultra focus on the important one when he heads to Judy's Restaurant to find Laura (in an unusual dazed ish state because his consciousness is balancing three different realities) So most of the season we were in timeline A, Cooper and Dianne head back into timeline B, and when Cooper wakes up in the motel alone as Richard, that is timeline C. That's my take, like a key to a lock, I think defeating the Unholy Mother is going to take a coordinated effort in all three timelines. When Laura screams at the end it could be her mind waking up to the other timelines

I like the thumbnail. Check out what year marks the end of the timeline on top, then read what's stamped below the second timeline. Another layer of cool is that it's the end of it's own timeline in a meta way

Holy shit! (lol) You are a genius! I'll need to watch this a few more times to "get it," I'm sure... but much appreciation. I always enjoy your videos.