Twitch Vocal Coach Reacts to Nightwish Singers: Phantom of the Opera Duet | feat. Henk Poort OG 

I def always enjoy Floor & Henk more ,it just feels more traditional while also being different but so clear & crisp

Floor Jansen , Pigeonholing 🐦 ft. Henk Poort - FLOOR FINDS #5 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tnvsp8RDiCk.html 12 min 27 sec , about narrow minded music business . Floor Jansen , first band labeled as something it was not and Henk Poort , considered not able to sing opera anymore after he did his first musical 1991 .

Henk Poort Fully Trained Baritone Opera Singer

ROFL!!! I am NEW to NW and already a converted NW Army member and outside the music Floor WON me, THEN, THEN Marko sang and WOW!!! I do a React channel under another name and those followers MUST be sick of myself saying how much I LOVE Marko AND Floor and more so together! I'm NOT pleased I saw Marko is leaving the band for a while.... NO!

@@brucenadeau5920 Never did he say "for a while". He quit, gone, done for. Thats the real sad part. Honestly can't see them recovering as nightwish, they are going to be a different band now.

@@aenorist2431 Marko is my 8yrs olds hero right now, the Viking warrior in his eyes and without Marko imo, yes NW will NOT be the same. Switching from Tarja to Anette was already a hard more, than to Floor a saving grace, I do NOT see that going well trying to replace Marko IF he doesn't come back.

@@brucenadeau5920 Are you an Epica fan, or not yet? :)) I started with Nightwish too, some 15 years ago. Nightwish is awesome, but Epica f*ckin blew my mind.

Pretty much so. And now he's not there anymore. I actually cried when I heard. The greatness of this band truly lies in the dynamic energy between its members. And one of the most vibrant members is gone from the band.

In that song he's the angel of music, the seducer. The evil phantom comes after actually

Oh really? Too slick? Too controlled? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G2zxzaWgVRA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j9qLfyLowjg.html Two versions of the song with Sarah Brightman and both completely different. And I would neither of them consider slick.

Marko is the Mr Hyde to Henk's Dr Jekyl. Two very separate faces of the same Phantom. I don't know which interpretation is better. Happily, I don't have to choose just one of them. Not everything is a competition. Both interpretations have a good reason to exist. The calculating, precise, obsessed musical genius and the disfigured, passionate, powerful monster haunting the opera building. Both are technically correct. The best kind of correct. Same with the Christines. Floor feels more natural. The youthful new rising starlet with a gift she is only now beginning to fully be able to grasp control of, while Tarja sounds more "classically trained" and controlled. Even in her final outbursts, she still doesn't let passion take control of the instrument. Two very different women being portrayed. Both talented as hell. Personally, I give Floor a slight advantage, as she lets me feel the character a bit more. She doesn't perform the song. She becomes the character. I don't quite feel that with Tarja. She remains Tarja singing Christine's role. Splendidly. But still, her personality shines a bright light directly at the edge of the stage making me painfully aware of the fourth wall, if you know what I mean. When it comes to vocal talent, they are both unmatched and unique. They are both brilliant, but Floor has a slight edge. To illustrate the difference a bit more, I'll use a different A.L. W. musical piece as performed by two different artists. Memories from Cats. Barbra Streisand does a technically perfect job. Sings every note just right. But it still feels like a song. Recorded in a professional recording studio, by a great singer. But a song. And then, there's the Elaine Paige version from the official DVD recording of the Broadway stage oerformance. When she sings it, you can feel the desperation for another chance of the old cat, once living a perfect life. You can almost feel the matted fur, the bald spots, and the knots and scars on its skin. She doesn't just perform. She paints the character with her voice. Barb makes you nod in appreciation of vocal prowess. Elaine makes you want to pet the poor animal. I hope that makes sense.

@@LongandWeirdName watch dangerous game.. Floor Jansen and Henk Poort.. it is Jekyll and Hyde

Tarja is trained to sing the both registers with support, not to strugle. From the other hand, Floor, she is very week, she is not supporting the head voice, she sounds holow.

didn't annet have the same excuse?...sorry but Tarja's attidude was egocentric before her cold

@@jeffenwaldomyspanishadopti9283. If i remember right, Annette was sick in the hospital. Also i wouldn't go with what Tuomas and the rest of the band said about Tarja, considering the things they've said have been very counter to what anyone who's ever worked with Tarja has said. and they lied about Annette's departure from the band and later admitted to that at least. There's always two sides to the story and actions speak louder than words.

you are correct in that...there are more sides to the story..however...the band didn't just fired them over a throat infection...both had problems with the band allready..Tarja didn't even show up on rehearsals and Annet wasn't a happy chook eather... tension was building up... and them being fired was a result of much more than their throat infections.Floor is more adaptable to the band..it's a pitty that Marco left now due to covid..and the music industry by it self that doesn't reward musicians But both Tarja and Annette ...you could see it coming...not because thy where bad singers..but the click was missing evetntually with the band...Floor does an awsome job there

@@jeffenwaldomyspanishadopti9283 It's a lie baby! She was too demaged in the that band!

@@jeffenwaldomyspanishadopti9283 Read the book man, Empu's book. It's all in there and nothing like you think at all. Stop spreading the internet parrot rumor mill ya?

I second this. I'm sorry. Floor is good. But Tarja is a goddess. She deserves more recognition for what she did for Nightwish.

@@xMRxZEROx And Classically trained singers in rock/symphonic metal as a whole.

@@kimberlyh.1090 Exactly. It makes me sad every time I see a reaction to a song where there's an available version by Tarja. I know Floor is the current singer. But come on. Show her some respect.

@@xMRxZEROx Most RU-vidrs are view whores, and most people only want the new, flashy, thing. Not the classic, tasteful thing.

@@kimberlyh.1090 Valid point. Kinda like how there's a crap ton of my God, Devin Townsend playing Kingdom on EMGtv all over RU-vid. But not as much of his other stuff. But most of the people who actually have some brains end up really being impressed and check out more of his work.

Absolutely!👍

That was magic.

Who made it a competition?

@@CharlieCalottaReacts wasn’t towards you...to the commenters below arguing over stuff. I know you appreciate the talent of all these singers. Sorry if you thought was directed at you.

In case of Floor i can say she is the best because she can do anything, from growling to pop/metal/rock to opera. She is perfection for Nightwish. Floor is not just different, she is way more versatile than 99,9999% of all singers on the planet.

@@Harolddespui Not really. Versatility doesn't always mean better.

@@nicholew350 Sure, if you love hearing the same style of voice in each and every song. Personally i love how Floor can go from growling to rock to metal to opera in even one song. Can't get enough of that when she mixes things up.

Slaying the dreamer from End of an Era is SO GOOD

I agree!!

@@sarahweis1703 Exactly. There are a number of problems with Tarja. A. her impressive high notes notwithstanding her performances never feel balanced: there are to many off pitch notes (not so much in this performance, but more in general), her vowels are often harsh and not pretty ("iiii...)", etc. B. Tarja's timing is not very good. Especially when singing with the more complicated and demanding metal rythms of Nightwish her voice often does not gell: Tarja is rigid and in live performances does often not seem to get her voice to work with the music of Nightwish (I have many examples of that) Floor on the other hand, has an enormous range like Tarja, but she is not as manic in those high notes, and she has much more control over the whole picture: beautiful fluent vowels, an effortless flow of the song and melding in with the music, excellent control over the texture and register she want to use to tell the story of the song, and excellent decisions in how she wants to use those. And what really makes Floor better is that she always makes the effort to actually feel the song and what it is about. There is simply much more emotion in Floors voice. Tarja on the other hand always gives the feeling that she only wants to show off those high notes, while she could not care less about the rest of the song.

@@sarahweis1703 where I find her style, singing and presence leaves me flat. But then again that is my preference and I'm not going to say anyone has to feel as I do or agree with me. If Floor is what you want, you got it. But my taste is for Tarja. Hank does a great suave performance but can he match menace that Marko brings, also can he hit the high notes that Marko did? I am going to have to vote Floor & Hank off the island. 😅😁

​​@@rientsdijkstra4266Floor can not do it all. She has problems with old tarja Songs because they are out of her range and Sound not good with her

That's adorable!

11 years old... :-)

Borrowing her grace for the last time.

That was indeed a perfect moment that never gets old with repeated viewings.

Tarja has never held an attitude. That is the cry of the bully who has abused her good nature when they finally stand up for themselves.

marco!!! should marco sing with floor!

Tarja forever

I agree!

Tarja

Tarja is good... but Floor is the better one of them two... More dynamics, better range, better abillity to ad different colors in the story etc etc etc.. Tarja is basiclly just screaming...

Mmmm then maybe that is why Tarja is struggling with breathing. You can actually see it, and she even breaks to breath. Her breathing also feels heavy at the end which it shouldn't. However, if she had the flu that is where it would get reflected.

@@dalia1598 Nee hoor, van Floor.

Last song of the concert was Wish I Had an Angel.

Yeah, definitely seems that way. Chat was going OFF about it...

Some people do care about Tarja and Floor being different/one is better. Not sure why honestly, but if you wait around and read some comments, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about 😂 always good to see you here, Rosannasfriend

It's a sexist thing, men never get compared in the same way women do. They always have to deliver 200 % more and always get the blame for any friction or tensity. Check out the new Britney Spears documentary - the part were everybody was pitying Justin but hating on Britney after their break up is just wack crazy, just like he too wrote songs about the break-up to shame Britney, as did Tuomas to Tarja.

@@CharlieCalottaReacts that's exactly why I don't read comments under Nighteish videos anymore 😬

No, Floor is much better, more volume, more range and better english 😜

@@sam_broesel but the key of the songs is lowered and it feels empty lol

@@sam_broesel Less symphonic, less spirit, less vocal compatibility with original Nightwish music as it was intended to be. She has her fortés (Ghost Love Score) but on this song, she just cannot cut it.

@@sam_broesel Their range is 99.9% the same, and Tarja's voice is much darker/heavier/meatier than Floor's. Tarja would drown Floor out if they sang live with no microphones. ;)

For your information: Marco was the most insistent of letting Tarja go. He stated: "It is her or me, that is going out." It is very fine, that he does not allow it to spill in to this performance. True professionalism for the audience's sake - despite of all.

Yes yes yes, that's the point. Hooked them in with inflammatory concepts and then quell the savage crowds

@@CharlieCalottaReacts Well done my friend!

No i not agree with you, sorry

@@ralfmeyer9086 It is important to differentiate what is personal taste and what is fact. It is a fact that Tarja has a powerful operatic voice and Floor has a soft operatic voice. This is not a matter of opinion, it is clear and has to do with the vocal characteristics of each singer. It is a personal taste to prefer that Cristine, the character played by Tarja and Floor in this song, have a soft or powerful operatic voice. According to my personal taste, I prefer a powerful operatic voice in this song. I think a powerful operatic voice is better suited to this song, since Cristine is a solo opera singer, and at the end of this song the idea is that she sing with all the power of a great diva. You can prefer a Cristine in a more delicate voice, this is your personal taste and there is no problem with that. However, in fact, Floor does not have an operatic voice as powerful as Tarja. Floor's power lies in her belting technique. I say that because I know Floor's work well. I've been following her since After Forever. This does not mean that one is better than the other. Each of them has different voices and made different vocal study options.

I prefer Tarja's as well. Floor's is pretty and I respect her skill, but I'd never return to listen to it because the overall sound isn't nearly as captivating. This song is just PERFECT for Tarja's vocal quality in general, there is nothing Floor could do to best her in this song just like I'm sure there is a song Tarja can't best Floor in.

@@ralfmeyer9086 your english is as horrible as floor's limited voice

I actually find the Nightwish rendition to be more chaotic more difficult to connect to. The pacing the note the tone of Tarja's arrangement to be less pleasant, like its pushing note to push note. Tarja never had me have chills even if she is an amazing singers. Floor gave me chills so many times I dont understand but there is something much more appealing to me to the tone and delivery Floor has in general.

I agree! While Floor is fantastic, Tarja just seems more at home in a song like this one..Floor comes off somewhat unnatural, which is too bad, because she is really great at what she does. To me, sadly, Phantom Of The Opera is not in her ballpark

I agreed I love them both but hearing Tarja sing in a closed stadium songs like this one will always blow you away. Her voice is so strong and I am pretty sure the mic is just an accessory

Completely agree. That's what I try to get at by putting these next to each other. No hard comparison, just listening to 4 different artists make different choices with the same music. No hierarchy involved. Thanks for your insightful comment 👍

@@CharlieCalottaReacts Thank YOU! My love for Nightwish, only since one year or so, brought me to your place, somewhere on the web and your presentations, fed by warm charism, bring joy to the world, friend ;-}

A good thing about such comparisons is that some people realize that there are also othe people who can sing beside their star. And if it's intriguing them to find out more about that person they didn't know so far to widen their horizon, it served a good purpose.

i do find this comparisons kinda dumb.. i do prefer marko and tarja, i admit..but that`s because i m into metal more than into classical, those brutal, powerful songs, growls, screams calm me down, i enjoy them more than words.. but i know it`s a me thing, subjective to what i feel. I find comparing something you feel stupid.. because it is what you feel. Your on view of that feel.

I prefer David Gilmour performing that song. ;-)

@@Nikioko Really? The Nightwish-version, including the vocals, has so much more oompf to it.

Yes! I love them! Joke's voice floats so effortlessly through her passagi throughout the whole score. Beautiful. And their acting on the soundtrack is really some of the best.

Tattis!

You’r right. Tarja steels the show every time. Her voice is more haunting and interesting. Floor sounds good but that’s it, no more no less.

Floor's note is a D6 indeed but Tarja's note is an Eb6, I just checked it now in my piano. Doens't mean its better or worse, it is simply Not the same note! Cheers \m/ \m/

@@soundslikeblue Of course not. Placido Domingo could sing the C5, Lugiano Pavarotti couldn't. Wouldn't say that Pavarotti was the worse singer. ;-)

@@Nikioko Being an Opera fan for many years, If I had to choose I would actually prefer Placido Domingo, who actually had a more diversified career inside Opera than Pavarotti had (of course in certain roles such as Tonio, Pavarotti would excell, but its just normal that each singer has his most suited parts), as well as Domingo had a bigger voice who could easily sing above a huge orchestra in many wagnerian roles (Pavarotti's voice hadn't enough stamina for Wagner, there's no microphones on real Opera) and inspite of the natural aging of the voice Domingo still goes on, adapting to newer roles in recent years and even exploring a lower range with brilliance! However Pavarotti who was amazing too, knew better how to make it mainstream also, specially when is voice was getting already out of prime from the 90's on, it was a wise move, even commercially, but what I mean is: never think that Domingo is Less than Pavarotti inside the Opera world, because it is the other way around! And on the older generations there were other tenors as great as Pavarotti (Bjorling, Corelli, del Monaco, etc... and Pavarotti knew it!). At the end of the day I prefer Not to choose and have them Both, and I actually have many Opera recordings with Both, Simple! Thanks for replying anyway! Cheers!

Tarja sang an Eb6.

Actually Henk was taught earlier, in 2 hours, to sing with distortion by his own vocal coach. He wanted to learn this to perform " the sound of silence " from Disturbed, for Floor. On her episode of " beste zangers 2019. " He than used the distortion while singing the Phantom of the Opera, as a surprise to her. He told so himself, in an interview. At the general rehearsal he didn't use it yet.

You can actually see the water from the thunderstorm dripping, next to Floor. And also next to Henk, while they are singing.

Makes me smile every time

hahaha..

A very high never doesn't always have to sound nice... Tarja just screams in that song.... Floor is much more versatile with much better facial expressions... With Tarja everything is boring...

Bleib bei der Tarja-Ära.....Wacker... Deine Meinung von vor Jahren ist nicht mehr relevant.. Wahnsinniges Gejammer Hahaha

@@sarahweis1703 who's whining? Ali simply voiced appreciation. Pretty ridiculous that Floor's fans have a nasty habit of completely dissing her friend.

​@@sarahweis1703Wer pop mag hört Floor ...

Hahaha..

​​@@sarahweis1703floor Fan?

We can love both. But yeah, Tarja's world class.

100%

I'd say if she k illed it, Marco fkin slain it!

Awesome. This is like someone went through a nasty divorce, both sides got married again and are happy with their new spouses but 15 years later people still say "she is still his true wife". Ugh.

Only the rock community knows her

Floor has versatility and pronunciation on her side tbf

Its boring af

😍😍😍

And nothing wrong with it. She's a true professional in every sense

Right... nice BS stories to make her look innocent, but Tarja really deserved to be kicked out and I was so glad it happened.

@@DzeiEidz Right - hater spotted. Read the book where the guys, the management team, and pretty much EVERYONE talks round and round about the infamous parties, and most importantly, watch End of Innocence and see how the guys are so drunk they pass out in elevators, flash butts and dicks and are surrounded by more bottles and cigarettes than the season to blossom.

There will always be that idea that as Tarja married Marcelo Cabulli and Tuomas had no more chances with her, things got difficult..and found the "diva" thing excuse.... we never know

@kivikunnas Kinda my whole point - she was not there to take her of her voice and be the responsible person, because no one else was.