Twitter’s Hanging by a Thread(s) 

Threads isn't even allowed in the EU, that's how bad the data collection is.

Instagram did a thing a couple years ago where they hid the likes on everything, but you could still see who liked things. They said it was a way to keep anxiety down, whatever that means. So they probably are doing the same on threads

One MAJOR problem with Threads for me: inaccessible via desktop.

Can't wait to tell my circle about this on Google Plus

when linus hit the "i wish you the best of luck" that was the most "bless your heart" moment ive ever heard from this canadian.

we actually knew about threads from its inception. meta’s town halls are leaked all the time in articles and around the time elon bought twitter an engineer pitched making a twitter competitor that’s integrated into instagram

Lack of a web interface is what's keeping me off Threads. Downloading an application just feels too invasive to me. I don't want it on my phone. Maybe it's because I'm old and miss the old days of normal forums though.

Desktop browser versions makes blocking advertising much easier.

the other thing about non-compete clauses is that depending on where you are in the world they can be un-enforceable, my understanding (as a developer, not a lawyer) is that here in Australia it is very easy to accidentally write an un-enforceable non-compete clause for example "Employers may not impose unreasonable limits that unreasonably limit an employee’s ability to earn a living". Its always worth double checking the wording of your employment contracts with a professional, often companies will put some really scary sounding things in them, without any ability to back it up, but that depends heavily on region

Yeah, I took a "Ruby on Rails" programming course and one of our first assignments was to literally make a Twitter clone. The security portion was actually the hardest part of the assignment than actually making a functional Twitter.

Going off the idea that Thread replaces twitter, I don't see it being good that both "twitter" and facebook/Insta are under one company.

To be fair, I'm pretty sure a lot of people thought that saying they "tweeted" something felt off in 2007. It might just be something that becomes normal if Threads sticks around.

As a Zoomer, I hate app only products too. I want shit to be on PC. I don't have twitter and I was never gonna use threads, (and I couldnt even if I wanted to cause im in EU), but the fact that its not on desktop makes me extra not gonna use it ever.

I think Linus under estimates how many people like Elon. To me he is like Trump. A lot of people like him and a lot of people hate him with very few that are in between. Linus may be surrounded by a lot of people that don't like him and he assumes that is the norm.

Threads will shut down or be dead within 2 years

I don't think you can call the censorship of Twitter or Meta as the choices of a private company when they were being told directly by government officials what content to censor.

I knew it was coming because every community using ActivityPub (which Meta allegedly will use to bridge with other social networks) was freaking out, lol

The energy of this Threads discussion is so different from the one in the Waveform podcast's and I find that really interesting

Discord is the best social media application in existence, period.

Forcing it into Instagram was the dumbest thing. No way numbers aren't inflated from that.

The first thing I thought when I heard that Musk has acquired Twitter was what he's gonna screw up first considering he has never had any experience with running social media. I guess the right question would be what the competition was gonna do...

Well Insta was "better" because it WASN'T endless arguments and shit which was what FB and Twitter were turning into at the time. Instagram was...just pictures and that was nice.

The line between corporate and government censorship is a line of legality, but if you're talking about the morality of censorship it's significantly more complex than "well it's a private platform they can do what they want". Legally that's the case, and obviously there are some kinds of censorship that are deserved, there are types of speech that are outright illegal, like threats of bodily harm, but setting things like that aside for the moment censoring something that just isn't friendly to capital isn't all that different than government censorship. In both settings you're saying something that a powerful entity with massive resources that has power over your life doesn't like, and if you think that's hyperbolic look at how much money US corporations donate to politicians, and how likely policies you push for are to be enacted based on financial status. If there isn't a strong divide between capital and the capitol then we can't act like corporate censorship is good actually, especially when you guys acknowledge that "just build your own platform then 5head" isn't really a viable option because of the infrastructure cost, and need for money to flow in, it's a problem.

Well, this aged well…

What this goes to show is that I feel like people do actually want a text based microblogging platform, twitter is just bad

Twitter (Free Speech) Threads (censorship)

With Zuckerborg's track-record, you have to be some kind of special to be excited about anything he makes. Linus not biased at all here right?

I'm convinced meta is leveraging their partnership with influencers to boost their app usage. All of the "influences" I follow are continuously posting about how their followers HAVE to go get threads.

There's honestly very little legitimate reason to hate on Elon. He's not even conservative, he just doesn't agree with radical leftist politics.

It's funny looking back at this now that Threads is also turning up rate limits claiming spam attacks lol

I found it amusing how Linus misses the point of Instagram. It's a social media for photos and videos only. Text is almost irrelevant. Not that I'm defending Instagram, I really don't like it, but I can see the appeal

…This didn’t age well

"And anything I can only access on my phone just doesn't exist to me" Literally me

The thing, that makes me laugh here is... People are leaving Twitter, because it turned into a garbage-evil-company and are moving to Threads, which is owned by Meta... ...i shall leave it standing as is. If you do not see the irony in this, then it cannot be helped.

I prefer being challenged to living in an echo chamber. I won't be joining threads any time soon.

"For everyone arguing about twitter vs threads/ insta/meta; delete both! That's how you win." -Louis Rossmann

this has me thinking that at one point in the future, owning your own pc/desktop will be the equivalent of a boomer going "my old 65 mustang runs better than all these new electric cars" in the sense that so many people from younger generations just default to using their mobile devices for everything and are more likely to go "why would I need a pc when my phone does the same thing" like yeah, it does the same thing, but you cannot tell me opening a pdf or spreadsheet is more enjoyable on a phone than it is a dedicated desktop with a monitor or even a 13 inch laptop at that. it's probably irrational as a fear, but thinking about how so many social platforms didn't even have a website version for the longest, I feel like that fear is somewhat valid, if I'm not mistaken, snapchat didn't have a website until a year or two ago

Now i want a tshirt saying "Everything is Garbage!"😂

Zuckerberg made a diarrhea sandwich, people are flocking to eat it, and Musk is just mad that he didn't get to add extra dookie sauce.

Mentions rolling blackouts... me sitting in South Africa watchin on my phone because there is no power for the next 2 hours 😥😥

If anything Threads just presents the contrast to show Twitter as being a more complete app. Okay, Threads got a lot of users quickly; great. Now what? It’s lacking in every way.

I wonder how many "users" are bots

"Anything I can only access on my phone just doesn't exist to (sic) me": that's precisely how I feel!! I spend 10+ hours at a desk using my laptop & a 28 inch monitor. If I have to pick up my phone & stare at that tiny screen to do everything related to a product, I'm probably not using that product.

Fun fact! In California, it is actually illegal to enforce non-compete clauses in contracts. So, even if Meta did hire all of the ex-Twitter staff it wouldn't be illegal to do so and the ex-Twitter staff couldn't be penalized for it.

It's easy to decide if one should use Threads or not: is it owned by meta/Facebook? If yes, don't use it.

More social media, just what the world needs...

Threads is just the latest ‘iPod killer’

I hate when the mobile website tries to force you to the app.... Lile my Firefox mobile has ad block your shitty app doesn't.

Don't worry Linus, they don't need to have dinner with you either.

I legit thought multiplayer games were getting better or "nicer" because I never hear hot mics. COD 2019, Cold war, Vanguard, slip gate, Halo don't remember them being bad... but MW2 2023.... I was called every slur in the book the first 30 secs in each match by a child.... It's like I got time warped back to 2007. People really don't change, and finally understood and appreciated good moderation.

I was JUST talking about this, PCs are going to go away, as the vast majority of us who grew up with computers are now part of a dying breed when everything is being accessed via apps and mobile devices. The fact that apps have no website presences much less those that have limited presence is growing only indicates the transition.

If the deactivation works the same way it does at my job, deactivation disables your ability to log in. This is useful if someone wants a temporary break, if the users data is hacked and they want to prevent people from logging into the account. Presume a deletion is full GDPR removal of the data that meta has stored. There is no way for the account to be recovered, you can recover deactivated accounts.

I used to like Musk, but he's declining for a long time. The peak of his reputation for me was in 2018 at falcon heavy first launch, after that it started with him trying to "help" on the thai cave rescue, then the model 3 delays and how he handled the production crisis, , then all the cripto and dogecoin stupidity and after the pandemic started was becoming worst and worst

Dude Threads is terrible right now. Its all large brands and almost no interaction. Not only that but the interface is just awful. Maybe one day it will be something but my money is it dying in a relatively short time

This turned into a team meeting very fast lol

I think a Bing search will provide you the code to create a Twitter clone.

There is no line between advertiser friendly and censorship, because making something advertiser friendly is wholly within censorship. Likewise, trying to have a rule about not allowing politics doesn't work because every aspect of anyone's life has to do with politics. You can minimize it, you can't eliminate it.

If they go all in and develop a column based web portal, it's over.

Imagine wasting ridiculous truckloads of money spent over decades for PR just by running your mouth on something you were forced to buy by running your mouth.

Even though I set youtube to send me notifications for all vids, I didn't get one for this. Is there a limit on how many notifications can be sent from 1 channel in x amount of time?

"burn! burn! burn more than the other guy!" 😆

11:20 Me too. I'm born after 2000 and I use the big screen at the desktop! If there is no good way to bring it on this screen it doesn't exist.

20:04 I fully agree on the problem with having a friendly platform. And the part of "making a multiplayer game, one with a non-toxic user base, well I was with you up until you're gonna make a multiplayer game" is reasonable. (COD MW II's multiplayer)

Twitter hanging by a thread? You wish lmao. I love that Elon, the genius, has brought back free speech. In fact, most people love Elon, this dude is just letting his hate for him put him in an echo chamber 😂😂😂😂😂

The main point of using a social media, specially the social part, is the community. Tech is easily replace-able, if the people/group they really care about actually only use a specific platform, user can easily change their habbit for this.

I still don't have threads! Can't wait to have it available in The Netherlands!

I Thrid You Thrud He/She Thrud We Threed You All Threaded

Good luck ever enforcing a "no politics" rule equally across the board. I've yet to see a rule like that not be misused, not in private chats, not in small forums or ircs, not in large platforms.

70 million users sounds extremely inflated

A social media platform without a website is a joke

20:23 It seems to maybe help though if you add a dedicated salute button that causes your character to both salute and say a catchy little inspirational/positive line to rally players together with... :P _Rock & Stone!_

Meta would have a much easier time making a Twitter competitor since they already have a lot of backend experience managing huge volumes of user input and output. Meta is an exception to the general difficulty of making a Twitter competitor.

The thing about not allowing politics on a platform is you have to be firm and impartial about it or it looks like censorship. Saying no politics usually ends up being “no politics that I don’t agree with” but letting stuff the platform moderators agree with stay

Is amazing how Mastodon, a way superior experience to either Threads or Twitter, flies under the radar for you.

What's the difference between advertiser friendly and censorship? In terms of actions or policy, there is a distinction without a difference. In a capital friendly system, especially upon a privately owned and operated digital chatroom, anything that opposes the status quo for those who've already succeeded at accruing capital and their efforts to maintain that privileged position, will be censored or otherwise challenged by said entit(ies)y. Thusly, for most, its a difference of whose worldview is protected, irrelevant of "the truth" and what it may imply, and how many suffer/benefit from that. The real blackpill of this all is, simply, we'll willingly go along with it, and will even defend it when its challenged. The first Matrix film was so spot on with its observations of the ordinary person within the systems they exist within.

I hit the read limit on Twitter reading one tweet and the replies

LTT should really make that twitter competitor

The lack of website kills me.

Elon trimmed the fat and the company is working just as good lmao.

13:00 That's the same way I feel about Google's war against ad-blockers. If they manage to clamp down and prevent people from watching more than 3 videos (per day? forever? 🤔), then I'll just stop watching YT altogether and have 10-20 hours of extra free time per day. 🤷 (I multi-task while watching videos, but still, not having 200-300 videos in my watch-later list all day long would make life easier and freer, like before I started watching YT 5 years ago 😒). Bring it on. 👍 24:24 Okay Luke. 👍 You hair looks nice today. Ha! There, this wasn't garbage. Suck it Linus! - Um… wait a second… 🤔

Threads is effectively cringe. Also banned on the EU because of how cringe it is.

I don't understand how you guys can simultaneously hate Musk for firing so much of the Twitter staff and *also* state you thought their jobs were already toast and Twitter's model was unsustainable. You get how that makes no sense right?

I just hate Meta so no threads for me. Not like I was using Twitter anyway though.

Its over 100 million now

Twitter for finance is great. Fintwit community is golden. Sure there are jerks and scammers but they are easily identifiable and ignored

Threads won't replace Twitter, simply because of its heavy moderation of explicit material

If Threads was running Twitter code, it wouldn't function.

I think anyone under 30 could have told Elon not to buy Twitter, none of my younger cousins use it. It probably peaked in popularity a few years ago

whoever came up with the title deserves a raise

Personal opinion, but Facebook peaked around 2006. Its best use was as an easy hub to communicate with friends I don't see day to day. The features I want are a messenger hub (it's slightly more convenient and less formal than email), a relatively feature-rich photo album (Instagram has too many limitations, and true photo sites like Flickr are slightly too niche), and comments and likes. I didn't mind the Wall when it was just public notes to people, but I want to control what types of content can be posted to my wall, don't post articles to my wall.

Eating a burro on a hike?!?!? Wtf. Thats a bad idea... Lmao

Sorry, no website, can't use it.

On the topic of content moderation, Threads is working on Federating, which in short basically acts as a decentralized way of communicating with people between social media services. It's mainly used by Mastodon right now, but when they eventually integrate it into Threads and open it to federation with other Mastodon and other social media servers, how are they going to handle innapropriate content from other servers that aren't their own?

One of Twitter's things is it has become the place where politics go. Like if you want to follow politics in the UK it's where the Westminster journalists are. LMG also produces political content, it's one of the reasons I watch these videos.

Linus's desire for twitter to fail is hilarious. Because he will ultimately end up dissapointed.

Non-competes are basically unenforceable in California btw.

The bits about the twitter layoffs make no sense. Linus even acknowledged that twitter wasn’t sustainable at that level.

Elon is not massively hated, YOU hate him Linus, YOU do.

i tried joining bluesky but never got invite. Im on threads now and no longer interested in blue sky even if i get an invite because i just wanted SOMETHING else that was viable.

Threads doesn't allow NSFW... That's a no for me