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Two Atten 858D+ hot air handles - COMPLETELY different!

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You can't expect a straight swap when ordering replacement parts for cheap Chinese trash.
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@frac 7 лет назад

Yup. Anything I buy from eBay gets the, "Don't turn it on, take it apart!" treatment... and NOT because I'm doing a tear-down. Because I want to live. On the plus side, I've never found anything that wasn't easily corrected to make safe-ish. For me, that's a trade-off I'm willing to accept for the ridiculously low prices. I always shudder thinking that people without electrical skills are also buying the same stuff, though.

@cnerde 7 лет назад

Whoever designed the PCB meant for the high voltage to go along the top two traces. They would have the ground separating them from the low voltage bits below, they have larger pads on the right for the input, and seemingly has the solder-current cheat.

@lgalhardo 4 года назад

I think you're wrong Sir. The top two yellow wires are the VAC for the heater coil and the red and black wires, I believe it's for the thermocouple. DId you measure them ?

@robocog 4 года назад

Indeed you are correct - just bought the same one and opened it up to check the wires

@barrymayson2492 7 лет назад

Hi just got one of exactly the same handles I agree the earth sheild is not very good. But the main heater element is on white and grey wires which has a bit more separation. The wires you pointed out as heater wires were the thermal couple. Just thought I mention it in case some one tries to connect it up. Nice videos by the way good quality audio and video.

@SianaGearz 6 лет назад

I think they soldered the unit FFcossag received wrong, which is why they ended up dumping the thing at a lowest listing on eBay..

@landscapecolumbus6160 5 лет назад

You can repair the blowers all you do is unsolder it from the board and pop it open then put how glue on the little circuit board inside the blower and then sit it back into the casing. What happens is that circuit board came unstuck from the casing which causes the fan to side fumble.

@User_1795 3 года назад

When I saw that ground wire I died 🤣

@ricklarsen7477 6 лет назад

Clarence isn't bad. He's a good guy!

@User_1795 3 года назад

No man that wears a green shirt with purple shorts is a good guy 🤣

@userPrehistoricman Год назад

Clarence just wants friends

@GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc 5 лет назад

Everyone who makes internet shopping must take it as a permanent decision that must have skills in electronics,mechanics,sewing,electricity because the buying stuff is never exactly as it has to be and most of the times needs some modifications in the case that is not a completely garbage and with a few luck maybe will turn to something useful.

@jirikaspar238 5 лет назад

Well there on mine is protective ground wire just wound around the metal strap, not even soldering blob :D

@patkelley8293 2 года назад

I just bought one of these and I'm going to give it a once over and look for something safer. Money is not an option on safety.

@JJJ-uq8lr 4 года назад

Hi I've the new version of this hot air gun and it doesn't heat up correctly. I already change the heating element for a new one but I noticed that ground wire of the heater head is broken (The one that is twirl around with a cable). Do I need to weld this part or is it a problem of the station itself?

@zx8401ztv 7 лет назад

Its odd that on the bad pcb, the top tracks are firther away from the rest, but they are not the 110v tracks, i would do some wire swapping so the 110 is on the seperate tracks :-). That wrapped earth is very naughty, but its in the right place to get repaired :-D

@cnerde 7 лет назад

Yeah, it has the ground between it and the low voltage bits, much larger solder pads on the input on the right, and even what looks to be the "let's cheat and use solder to carry more current along the traces" bit, using the cheap stupid way where it's not continuous, no need on 220, but a better idea with half the voltage and therefore twice the amperage. I'm convinced that's where the high voltage was supposed to go in the board designers mind.

@djmips 2 года назад

@@cnerde It probably was where the high voltage was going and he just made an analysis error.

@matiterk5176 4 года назад

Świetny film. Masz mojego suba. Mam pytanie: kupiłem stacje na alliexpres Eruntop 8586D+. Regulacja prędkości wiatru w hot air jest bardzo słaba. Czy zmieniając potencjometr w stacji na więcej lub mniej Ohm hot gun będzie mocniej dmuchał ?

@SaNjA2659 7 лет назад

Got one of those off ebay for a soldering station project quite a while ago. Looks exactly like your new one, except the ground wire is not even twisted to a piece of welded metal, but tucked in between the metal pipe and plastic case. In mine the heater was white and grey wires, hence thicker traces on that PCB. By the way, how do you determine voltage rating of the heater? What impedance should it have? (I used to think they have the same heater for both 110V and 230V)

@FFcossag 7 лет назад

I just measured the resistance and it was about 1/4th of the 230 V version.

@SaNjA2659 7 лет назад

FFcossag Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Could you please tell the exact values as well?

@FFcossag 7 лет назад

I don't recall.

@robocog 4 года назад

@@SaNjA2659 I know I am 3 years too late and you have possibly worked it out by now 240v 70 ohms

@Mr-ahmeddesoky 6 лет назад

Please have a lukey 852d fan and the gun is disassembler brought another new but unable to install the limbs and saw your video was not detailed if possible to clarify the exits behavior of motherboard motherboard to connect new

@user-dg2zt7od4n Год назад

ممكن اخي المروحة كم فولت.الtip122عم يخرج 23فولت والمروحة12

@irishguy200007 Год назад

These work off 220 volts??

@mohammeddjedid6157 5 лет назад

hello please some one help me i have the old one and the Hand Damaged so i booth a new one and i cut the thread and i do the same colors but it dont work !!!! if some one know help me ok thnx .

@abubakarrsawaneh1930 3 года назад

How much voltage does the heater need

@djmips 2 года назад

230 Volts in his case. The heater he purchased was 110 Volts for North America.

@1bigsyd 7 лет назад

I have the same unit,do you find a better air flow with opening the fan intake area

@FFcossag 7 лет назад

Yes.

@RobBob555 5 лет назад

it was a dumb thing to do.. he should have just cleared the existing fan holes rather than chop them out completely.. he could easily damage his fan by touching it etc... my guess is thats what happened and why his original fan was "off balance "

@teemoinvietnam1356 7 лет назад

gnarly

@User_1795 3 года назад

Lol

@joshuabest100 7 лет назад

does the heater use 240v or 12v

@FFcossag 7 лет назад

Straight to mains.

@joshuabest100 7 лет назад

FFcossag wow didnt know that thought it ran off a small transformer like the soldering irons do thats scary

@RobBob555 5 лет назад

@@joshuabest100 it is necessary to get the heat.. unlike a 25v AC iron that builds up and retains heat..

@stanimir4197 4 года назад

@@joshuabest100 the heater is like 700W. it'd need 30A+ on 24V. Unreasonable.

@User_1795 3 года назад

@@stanimir4197 I have a shitty yihua 896D-II it has the design with the smaller PCB. That thing pulls a shit ton of power! It was surging the whole house lol. That's crazy that it runs straight off the mains like that. I definitely will need to modify that.