That is a really good point. This summer I was in some other countries and I appreciated 10" tires much more, was also missing suspension and I would definitely not ride with this much clearance :D Anyways it was just a fun experiment. Thanks man!
@@Shieldonpadla it was enough for any flat road and not enough for driving up/down any curb, and I mean any - even the smallest curb will catch in the middle
Love your videos! Really nicely edited, informative. I have just been given two scooters that weren’t working, got them working perfectly, done some nice little mods and starting to enjoy getting out on them with my daughter. Thanks for your videos.
@@VRMinde I would love that, nice and quite easy life 😁, I'm fitting a 350w AliExpress motor to my Xiaomi 1s today, Hopefully it works and I get faster top speed, I will let you know, great channel btw,👍
@@coaldust01 Thanks mate, let me know please. I think you will get more benefit from juicier battery though, but that is why would be cool if you return with info :)
@@VRMinde it's has less torque than 250w, but at 31 amps with quadratic throttle still has respectable acceleration, top speed has greatly improved, freewheels at 23mph on full battery, was getting 19mph at under 60% 250w would be down to 15mph by that point, way way better, I just have to wear a helmet now 😂,
Hey mate, shouldnt' you Y charger cable? So that you don't get any dangerous voltage difference between both batteries. I am looking for this exact mod as i just bought a new battery, but seems like i can fix the old one with a new BMS. Have you tested charging and balancing abilities with this setup? Thanks man, awesome video :)
You can do the Y charger or charge them separately, or get the Rita device for around 60eur and then you don’t care about the difference in voltages (if you have seen my latest video I just got it myself, even plugging in 50.4V 12s battery). This setup I have charged the batteries separately to the same voltage so I did not check on the balancing :)
@@VRMinde i have idea to cut side walls and to move them to the edge of the scooter bottom and to welld them there.it will be enough space for too 18650 side by side.so the clearance of the button will be like on original
EZGETAP I miss my old house with a decent workshop and the welding machine :) but I have never welded alu. If you have a way of welding the frame, it could tottaly work. Can you send me some pics/video when you do it please? :)
In theory it is possible to add a pack in series, but such a method has many flaws, difficulties and dangers. Will be hard to make sure they discharge at the same speed, difficult to charge, etc etc etc
Thanks mate, there are 2 of them installed and two temperatures displayed. One is between the first and the second cell, and one somewhere in the middle of the pack.
Ian Taplin hi mate! I am! But I am in an interesting situation... I have ordered a new bms that did not arive, this Monday received a refund after 90days of waiting... ordered a new one. I could not find anything in Europe, so paid extra for air freight from China again... I will then be able to assemble my ebike again and make video :) I shall also recive the 48v upgrade for the m365 :) let’s see how fast can it go. I would also appreciate if you have any specific ideas what videos would you like to see? Thanks
VRMinde I really enjoy all of the bike related videos you’ve made , your bmx videos have even made me get back on my bmx again and I’m loving it , I think that general videos of skatepark riding sessions and ebike riding videos ( when you get your ebike fixed ) will be great , the quality of your videos and editing is amazing aswel 👍🏽
You see I spend all of my time in the skatepark now on inline skates, so I do not take bike that often there :) But I am waiting for the new BMS... I think there is a package coming today... We will see :D BTW, youtube sent your comment to spam... for whatever is their stupid reason.
every battery has a separate bms, you do not need to connect it to anywhere. If you have 2 packs charged to the same level and connected in parallel - the battery "Does not know" that it's capacity has increased 2x nor does it have to :)
Ya don't have too once you connect batteries they both are controlling the battery packs so as long as they are both reading the exact reading of voltage then cross wires parallel and also too the same port to charge
Creative Stuff I would say yes, unless you are using balancing charger and are sure you won’t drain the battery too much 🙄 it just can be any bms, not necessarily m365 one
Aldis Garais yeah that is a problem. I will try and look it up when I am back at my pc mate. I am a bit traveling at the moment. I think it was uploaded by some spanish guy and there were a few spanish comments 🙄 I know it is not very accurate 😂
how did u make the clip. i mean u were filming without toucing ant camera. just like camera was flying with u... please give me an explaination.that was awesome.if possible please make a video of it....👍👍👍
Rony Khan hi mate, just look up 360 cameras. I am using the Insta360 OneR camera. It is filming 360 degrees and automatically cuts out the selfie stick :) it has many different effects. Technology has moved forwards a lot. Gopro now has some serious competition to fight :)
PansyAmerican it is filming 360 degrees and stitches the selfie stick out. In post production you can choose which angle do you want to show from very wide to narrow and point any direction
Darius su visom elektrinem priemonem taip :)) labai daug lemia greitis. Vaziuociau 25, jauciu ir 40km iveikciau. Bet tada geriau jau su dviraciu, atsisedus :D
When you connect the second battery do you need to connect any other cable besides the one with the xt30? There are 2 more extra cable that's the battery...
:) Someone most probably will correct me: There is one going to the main board/controller, you only need it connected from your main battery. Now the other one is the charging port. You could do another Y-joint there and just use the original charging port to charge both of your batteries at the same time. If you will not do the Y split, as far as I understand, both batteries will still charge, but the second battery will not be attempted to be "balanced" with the BMS. A good solution would be to install the second charge port and charge both batteries at the same time with 2 separate original chargers. And “good” = fast :) Oh, and there is one more cable - at the back for the light. Only connect it from one battery.
Do you have idea why scooter m365 reduceing speed, slowing down and then accelerate again.this patern is constant when rideing full trothel.maby to change capacitor from 63v to 100v on motor controler.?.or the number of revolution is limited by software.
@@VRMinde yes but its not problem whit firmware.it happened before whit other on flat surface.it can be or software that limit rpm(but why it slow down) or short of busting power in capacitor.m365 pro use 100v 1000uf capacitor and here are 63v 1000uf.do you have same experience on flat surface because a put same parameters like you?
Breeze li these tires work, and they are quite cheap from the Aliexpress :) there is a vid on my channel on how did I fit them and it must have the link in the description (I hope 🙄). Thanks for the comment!
saiful annuar my battery cell is perfectly balanced. Ask how I know :) I was siting with a bulb and a voltmeter for entire evening to make sure it is as balanced as it gets, just before mounting it :) And agree regarding the 30k and long range!
Mano projektėlis eina į pabaigą. Susidūriau su klausimais kurių pats neišmanau. Kokį plastiką naudoti baterijos space’riui ir kokius spausdinimo parametrus rinktis (sluoksnio storis ir infill)? Būčiau dėkingas už patarimą :-)
Naudok paprasta PLA. Koki auksti/linijos stori ir tt rinktis priklauso nuo to kokia nori galutine isvaizda/kokybe gaminio matyti ir kiek laiko spausdinti :) galima deti net koki 0.8 purkstuka ir spausdinti 0.4-0.6 sluoksnio auksti sumazinus greiti… pasibandyk koki maza gaminuka su skirtingais nustatymais ir nuspresi
So i remember getting about 12 mile range with stock tires and doing about 11-12 mph, with a double battery is it possible that is double the range? If not why not?
@@gigi9467 No I am not selling now amything :) maybe I should consider one day, but then I need to quit my full time job. With both suspensions it would be like the stock height of the m365 I think. At the same time “wildman” bag above the front foot works pretty well also. And you can fit decent size battery there. It does not take the deck space and you can still fold the scooter. The effect on the centre of gravity is negligeble 🙄
Do you have any plans for the black M365 where you got the battery from? Maybe you could do another video where you put a custom higher capacity battery instead of the parallel method here.
Julius Dalay I kind of now have the white one with 12s battery and the Rita device, I assume you have already seen this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Sc1wFv98cIQ.html. I do not know what I will do with the black one.
@@VRMinde Hmm if I may suggest, maybe try buying a used/new M365 Pro battery on the black one and install Pro Dashboard and see how it stacks compared to a stock M365 Pro? :)
My “simple” m365 with Rita and 12ah extra battery has more range than I ever intend to ride on an electric scooter :) For longer distances I prefer ebike over escooter ;)
To be 100% safe I would make a Y (parallel) connection on the charging wires after the charge port as well. Then just charge both batteries at the same time through their charging wires, but with the same one charger. That would allow the separate BMSs of every battery to stop charging if the set voltage has been reached. It would also lower the charging current for every battery in half. I think that would be a safe way, but hey, do it at your own risk :)
@@VRMinde Hi thanks for the reply, appreciate it :) . anyway, i did an upgrade on my xiaomi after watching your video. test it for about 2 weeks and works perfectly fine. i'm completely happy for the range i can reach with this mod. But i didn't put the second battery on the deck. i made a custom bag for it so i can remove the battery anytime i want. And for charging, i'm always charge it separately ( disconnect and take out the second battery from the bag ). So i wonder if i can charge it directly from the scooter charging port without disconnect the second battery LOL (never try this before, so i need to ask) :D anyway, love your video so far! Keep it up man, many thanks for all your videos ^^
@@claudiotimotius858 Thanks for the kind feedback mate. I understand what are you asking, and I assume it is "kind of safe" to do that. Your "normal battery" is charged via charging wires and through the BMS. But as its' voltage is going up - the second battery will also be charging as it is connected to the positive and negative terminals of the first one. The problem that I can see is that the BMS of the second battery cannot stop that charging if something goes wrong, because the charging is not going through it. Let's say you have a bad cell - during the normal charge BMS can stop the charging in case of overcharge, short-circuit etc. , but in this case, it won't. That is the risk. I would either continue charging them separately and checking the voltage every time before I "join" them, but to be honest soldering a simple parallel connection on the charging port wires is 9999x easier :)
@@VRMinde Noted. Will Try to make Y parallel connection for next project. For now i will keep it in traditional way. Charge it separately :D thank you so much for the feedback! ^^
I would probably also :) If you know where to get inserts to mount the m365 wheel at the rear please let me know. I am trying to find them for 4 months now and literally everyone is out of stock...
That's a bullshit l only can get between 10 to 15 km when l ride lm weight 70 kg If u ride only in straight you can ride longer but when you go climb you never can get that 20 km it's a bullshit
Gringo Life I do not think there is a need to argue a lot. I put two batteries that are the same. If I would have put one only - the range would have been halfed 🙄 Next week I should receive my 10ah 48V battery :) Let’s see if I burn my scooter and what will be the max speed + the range ;)
Where i can buy these battery extender frames? i can find the blueprint for printers but one one sells these things. I dont want to buy a 400€printer for this 10€ part xD
I wish I would remember man 🙄 I remember I have found online the length of the original screws and added the height of the 3dprinted part. But I can’t remember the number now mate, sorry
@@VRMinde ok no worries. I just like your set up so I'll copy yours. I just need to get the length of the screws for the battery inside and screws for the battery cover
@@Shieldonpadla i could not find the needed length/diameter bolts for the double battery. As I only used it for testing I just used the gorilla tape :D But I could find bolts for the cover.
I use several cameras for filming mate, not even sure any more what specifically was used for this video. I use nikon d6 with different lenses, insta360 oneR, gopro hero 7 black and insta360 go 2.
Man... The ones for closing the battery civer? I really can’t remember now 🙄 I have ordered the screws online, I think 🙄 Try and search for replacement bolts for the m365. They most likely are m2, and the lenght should be according to how tall is the printed part. If mine was 47mm. Then the bolts must have been something like 50 or 55 long 🙄
I have 1 old Xiaomi battery and i want to use it but the old battery as no safety bms can i connect to the news batterys bms and i wont damage the bms or it will damege plus the new one as a bigger capacity
Dulla Han if you charge them to the same level before connecting together - it wouldn’t. You scooter’s battery already has 10s2p: 10 cells in series and 2 in parallel. I just recommend to use the second battery pack with it’s own BMS.
@@VRMinde i tried running the m365 battery on a 36v ebike controller and bcm cuts off once at full throttle. Do you think it would cause any problem if i solder xt60 directly on the battery terminals before it enters the bcm and charge it through the regular balance port after the battery needs a charge?
Dulla Han Are you talking about BMS (battery managenent system) or something else that you call bcm? Most probably m365’s bms is cutting off after not receiving some communication from the controller. But I am just guessing. I do not know that for sure. If you just bypass the BMS you will be able to use the pack of course. But you have to make sure you won’t over-discharge it as there is nothing stopping you to do so. And you do not want to overdischarge the li-ion cells :)
@@VRMinde yes the bms(sorry im so used to calling it bcm), the unit that sits at the very tip of the battery. Im certain there a fail safe on the bcm that prevents over draw thats why it shuts down when at full throttle then power back up when released. Im thinking of running 2 m365 batteries in parallel but bypassing both bcm using a 500w ebike controller.
Dulla Han ok, I never heard it called bcm - allways BMS :) but what’s important that we understand each other :D You can do that of course... but you do understand that you should not draw more from the cell than it is specified to “give away”? And that without the BMS nothing will be controlling the individual cell voltage. And if thepack goes unbalanced and a cell goes below 3.0v you might even have a short circuit in the cell? And it can burn your house/garage or something else :) If you are ok taking those risks go for it :)
Hi, sorry for asking, but am I right that If I want to do this I just connect the xt60 connectors parallel and connect just one bms? What about charging? Do I just connect the charger like normally and they will both charge even with one bms disconnected? Thanks!
you have to have separate BMS for separate packs. BMS will watch for over/under current not only in the whole pack but also in individual cell groups. Depending what type of BMS you use your pack may or may not charge through the power output port, by the way, I think it is xt30 in xiaomi. But you can easily make a small parallel connection to a charging port and then just use one charger as always
yes, you just make sure they are charged to the same level before you connect :) the original bms "will not know" there is another pack connected in parallel@@anythingdotstl5585
@@VRMinde i have a 38-48v 600w controller but i am using standard battery from xiami m365 and the bms burnt and its expensive 49 pounds do you think its a danger ?? i also have monorim 500w motor.
@@barakcobrama1703 well, If you are willing to monitor and controll battery charge and discharge levels manually + constantly check cells for disbalance - you can run without a BMS. I find it too risky and too big of a burden to constantly look at the voltages etc 🤷🏻♂️ Did not even know that prices went up so much. I would at least install some BMS, not necesserally the standard m365 one
looks dangerous to me to have plastic cover underneath. They used aluminium with certain shape for resistance. In case of accident, imagine a car driving over the scooter, it should maintain shape and protect battery, otherwise it would explode and can make the car take fire. There are safety aspects that need to be accounted for.
We have a saying: “if you’re affraid of a wolf - do not go to the forest” :) Majority of ebike battery packs are plastic cases that would 100% not survive a car going over it 🙄 But you do have a point here, you can damage the pack even hitting a curb or a deep pothole.
That's a way to do it but for me it doesn't look practical riding with that little ground clearance. There are some 18650 cells that offer 3500mAh of capacity which is still 35% more range over the standard 2600mAh cells without even changing the construction of the scooter. You can check out Vortecks on youtube, he has made a beast M365 with custom cells and BMS.
Anonymous yeah, 100% agree. Larger cells would be the least appearance-changing way. But my office is like 2km away from home, so stock battery works well... For longer trips I go with ebike. But it was a fun experiment :)
@@VRMinde www.aliexpress.com/item/4001117904828.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.32963c0081FRiV&mp=1 will the dimensions of the battery fit, or do i need to extend the compartment?
@@evansyomu2879 From what I see it should fit in the place of the original battery and you should not need to extend the compartment. Unless you want to have them both.
I am not aware of such. However, I am planning to redesign it a bit and receiving larger print-volume printer next week. Now I amlready experimenting with tougher, more temperature resistant materials. No promises, but I might be able to put some for sale, at least in Europe
@@VRMinde well my mate gave me the battery out of he's m365 as he's motor was broken so I wanted to do this to mine for more range but had a look online for the 3d printed base and can't find any like this is so was wondering if you was selling them and how much they would be
wait wy so poor in range? mine is getting 28km whit the standard battery that has 6000km, 10" wheels and custom firmware (up to 35km/h). something is wrong in your scooter, I think
@@VRMinde 75Kg so not so light. I have to say that where I live is really flat. This is what i get whit my custom firmware. Other firmwares I tryed where awfull both in range and in responsiveness
@@cmh-re well mate, we will have to stay with our opinions :) I am a bit heavier, about 88-90kg, but I need 48v battery to reach 35km/h on gps and as you can see double size batteries to reach your range at those speeds.
It did not cost a lot for me... as I had the second battery and a 3d printer. Maybe 5 eur for the fillament and 5Eur for the connectors... I think battery would be another 110Eur or so
nice but i see a big problem right off the bat my friend... u lost more then half of the clearness to the ground.. that can be a big problem on bumps or uneven road.. :/
bill gangsta yeah mate I know, and now I am riding in a place where I would destroy the scooter with a pack like that. It was just a fun experiment :) I will soon (hopefully still this week) upload a first impressions vid of me riding with an external 10Ah 12s battery bag in my native town Klaipeda, Lithuania.
@@VRMinde yeah good experiment for sure. the battery bag my be a bit more practical i think.. half the fun is tinkering around lol :D i got the pro version about a week ago i like it so far :)
I do not know man. It looks like something I would kill myself with :) ebike is something I go for longer distances/bigger speeds. At least I have great suspension, brakes and two grippy wheels :)
that weird that you could reach only 29km with two 7Ah batteries. I reach 30/32 km with a DIY 10 cells 3Ah battery pack that i added in parallel. You'r shoulde be better than a xiaomi m365 PRO, where my friends reach easily 40km. I think a lot changes on driving conditions, firmware and cells quality. PS i city ride with a top speed of 26km/h and 8.5" tires, but almost all my friends use 10"
I think all of these comparisons are not fair, as you say, depending on road, wind, tires, etc. I get like extra 1km/h copmpared to the stock as the battery voltage is still the same... With Rita and 50.4V external battery I get extra 4-5km/h
@@VRMinde i was talking about range not speed. Your has an efficiency of like 19 Wh/km where usually that number should be around 10-12 Wh/km, thats just too high for me, maybe a little tweaking with the firmware currents (using the beta version) could improve that. Rita is another story, more like an ninebot ES2 battery management system, i don't have that but seems good from your videos.
Gabriele Russo I agree, probably I would reach more. But I was pushing the motor power limits on the max speed all the time+motor power constant pretty low... and it is (always) windy here in Denmark...
I have to xiaomi batteries i want to use. The problem is the connector is xt30 and xt60. And the xiaoni batteries is xt30. How can i solve the problem?
Mitch Calangi thanks for subscribing and thus supporting my channel! At least the technology let’s us communicate despite how far in the world you are :)
@@VRMinde youre right this kind of technology makes us unite wherever we are and It definitely binds people in the most useful way in our daily living regardless of the situation that we are facing today with this annoying pandemic somehow people remain connected sharing knowledge and bright ideas... Im from Italy though 🥰
@@VRMinde im glad you like Italy in my 26 years of existence there are still enchanting places that i must put foot unto... your Place Is Amazing too DENMARK is BEAUTIFUL same as the people definitely be visiting again as soon as possibile
You Can find poeple on Facebook. I did liké that l instal 2 battery . One 7800 from Xiaomi m365 and second one from m365 pro 12400 With 3 battery l Can Do dépend riad 40 to 80 km range With eco mode 24 km and normal mode is up to 30 km speed
@@getsmartereveryday2023 I make only around 15km with one battery on full speed. There is no magic here, battery is like fuel tank - double the size, double the range
@@VRMinde rewind ... i have 1 battery and 60 kg and range ia 25km tested ănd if i put another same battery i mean to go with 2 the same time it will be 40 maybe 50 km ?
I tried using this on my xiaomi essential, when I flashed the file my scooter showed a red charging status, even tho it was at 100% and whenever I used it the speedometer stopped working, any insight on this?
1. Are you sure you connected the batteries in parallel? 2. Are both batteries charged to the same level? 3. Did you set in the custom firmware “remove charging mode”? These should help :)
@@VRMinde Sorry forgot to add that I haven’t modded the scooter, it is completely stock. It’s very weird though and it got me nervous when the scooter started acting weird, I flashed it with another file that I’ve used before, i wanted to try something new since I could modify each setting, but I guess it isn’t compatible with the essential. Thanks for your time, means a lot.
@@VRMinde I just use down g it’s easy and free but I can’t exactly chose every option which kinda sucks and it drains my battery much quicker but what can I do
Why are you not wearing a helmet. Drive over one rock at 30kmh and its game over. Don't think you won't ever have an accident cos its those people who eventually do. 30kmh head damage will ruin your life for good
I think you are right - it is stupid of me. I am not conscious enough to understand why I do it. When I go skating I always wear a helmet. When I ride trails - I always wear one as well, full-face, friends are even teasing me that it is overkill. I was commuting on bicycles and still am (daily) for all of my life. And I never wore a helmet for commuting. To begin with, in the Soviet Union we did not have any helmets :D Somehow e-scooter fell in the same "commuting" category, I guess. Thanks for calling it out!
@@VRMinde But it's only have 250watts unlike m365 pro that has 300w. Is 250w is enough to handle 35kph? Because I badly want to have 35kph for road ride lol
@@gkeks1913 it can reach these speeds, but you would of course benefit from more powerful motor, especially if you want to maintain those speeds for longer periods of time. If I needed to go for a longer distance + speed 30km/h + I would consider ebike instead :) much safer, more comfortable, faster, easier to carry stuff etc.
