Two blades on one saw - The new TSV 60 KEB from Festool! 

Thanks Patrick! It's an impressive machine!

Glad it was helpful! Are you leaning towards the 1 or 2 blade 60?

Go for it! Once you buy one, it's highly likely you will buy another, the system is very well thought out

I won't say never but shouldn't ever be a cordless version of this saw or the TS 60 without the scoring blade. The motor requires an attached cord, similar to the reason the Conturo edge bander and planer have one a dedicated cord as well. Thanks for the feedback, glad it helped!

Normally Festool announce its news in november or december. But about cordless versions of the both saws is nothing to hear or read here in Germany in time. Best regards from Neubrandenburg/Mecklenburg-Vorpommern

@@michaelbehrndt8319 thanks abunch for information

For sure! Sheet goods and laminates, maybe even veneers with patterns as well is where this saw shines! Much cheaper than a slider without a doubt!

Yes for some who do not cut laminates, melamine and veneer, this saw may not be needed at all. There are other ways to get a super clean cut, this one does it in one pass.

That's an option but consider the following 1) That requires two passes with the saw 2) The scoring blade on this saw runs in the opposite direction, the tooth comes down on material instead of lifting direction, greatly reducing chance of lifting and tear out.

Great. Looks like a good saw to keep away and only bring out for those finish show cuts then. Though I’m still wondering if you did a score cut on your other project. I have a planned melamine edged top on one of my projects coming up. I’m wondering if I’ll have to re-think my plan.

@@christopheryale6867 sorry I missed the question, I did not it would for sure help and using tape would be another precaution. I had already cut all the parts and it wasn't until edge banding that I realized I had a problem. First time experiencing this problem because I do not use melamine regularly. (Taking it slow on the cut will also help as well as a new blade)

@@christopheryale6867 I have a TSC55 and have used a modified version of the scoring cut you mentioned. I set the blade to 2 mm depth and run the scoring cut in reverse (climb cut), pulling the saw towards me. Then I change depth to my desired depth, and push the saw through normally to complete the cut. This only works if you have a clean blade(no pitch build up on sides of teeth), and the blade is sharp. Also, because the depth of the scoring cut is only 2mm, there is little chance for kick back, and I make sure to only do this cut with the guide rail with the rail clamped to the work piece to ensure the rail doesn’t accidentally shift on me and potentially causing a bind. Yes this method still requires 2 passes compared to the TSV 60, but I am not a production shop and allows me to continue to use my cordless TSC.

I do the same thing as what @bobb5528 mentioned. I use a Makita track saw, which has a knob that I pull that sets the blade to a very low depth. I then operate the saw and move it from the end of my workpiece backwards to where I want the full depth cut to start. After this first scoring cut is made in reverse, I set the blade to the full cut depth that I need and plunge the blade down and move the saw forward along the track. This essentially performs the same function as this new Festool scoring blade in terms of a shallow pass of the blade running in the opposite direction of the full depth cut. But it does require two passes for every cut that I want to make.

The first blade is the score blade, it's about 2" around and has a small carbide tooth runs in the opposite direction as a cutting blade. It's only purpose is to score the material that is to be cut by the standard blade.

This saw cuts the splinter guide a little shorter or closer to the aluminum than what the other track saws use. Using another saw will now leave a gap between the blade and plastic guard. Does that answer your question?

@@fultonfinewoodworks Yes, I was thinking the reverse. That being the case, it looks like I've got another rail purchase or two in my future.

The 55 can do better with a 1mm precut and or by placing tape down but what I wanted to show was 1 pass comparisons of both saws - even with the tape and pre pass it does not compare to the TSV it's razor sharp literally touch it and your cut!

That's a way to do it for sure without this saw. Your correct the difference are two things really, time savings and also the scoring blade runs in the opposite direction to reduce even more the possibility of chip out. The blade can be dialed in with a micro adjuster and it's very accurate. You can turn this feature off when not needed also.

The old school way is to set the plug depth very shallow and cut the material going backwards from the end of the material toward the start of the material. Scoring blade saves you from messing up your depth adjustment when you go back to full depth

yes but, if you notice he had the blade on the first run plunged all the way down instead of the teeth just deep enough to cut the material. That in itself would cause chipping of the material. The second saw he had the blade in the normal depth of cut. It was not a comparable example in my opinion@@PCHwoods

Many times both sides are important in cabinet building

You can run two passes, use tape to protect but the point is to show what this saw does in one pass - perfection no extra steps

@@fultonfinewoodworks i got that, but it's a somewhat pointless comparison because nobody would do that cut in one pass if they wanted to minimize tearout. and the fact that you can do it in a single pass with this saw is kind of a self-explanatory benefit - everyone understands what one pass vs two passes entails (and it doesn't warrant a cut quality comparison in itself). for a CUT QUALITY comparison, the only relevant comparison is "what you can get with this saw in one pass vs what you can get with another saw in two passes". either the quality is comparable, in which case being able to do it in a single pass is the benefit, or the quality is also better, in which case it's a double win. but now it just seems like an apples and oranges comparison, masking the actual quality differences. that said - i do want the tsv 60, though.

@@d7samurai someone else has done the comparison you described and with a double pass the results are much better but there was still the occasional tearout vs 0 tearout with the TSV 60k