I never practiced choy li fut but I heard it teaches people to alternate left and right hooks. That sounds like bs to me but if it's true then CLF might be the greatest martial art ever made...lol
@@bluepin3005 It's actually true. Choy Li Fut is a combination of southern and northern shaolin. Lots of long arm swinging hooks uppercuts and kicks. Not too different from kickboxing.
Was he really Kung Fu per say? I have a feeling he's the guy who fights at least once a week at the local bar. That's what his style looked like to me (and by the way, that's not an insult to him. He has that raw aggression and experience that's hard to learn)
The second guy, the street brawler must've had some serious experience. He was smaller than the MMA guy and aggressive like a grizzly bear. And the MMA guy didn't excel in MMA on top. Amazing!
Dude, I sparred with kung-fu guys, trust me, jab-jab-cross is all you need. When someone rushes you like that a good stiff jab will do the trick every time.
No one can convince me that the first "kung fu master" has ever fought against a non-cooperating resisting opponent. ALL of his strikes and kick were at least 1-2 feet short of their targets.
Second fighter is actually what Kung-Fu and martial artists should be. He's sparred and actually has experience using his said martial art. Xu Xiaodong wasn't speaking out against this type of person. He was after the ones who teach a bunch of garbage and somehow developed a career lasting decades based on basically smoke and mirrors without likely ever having used it to even spar. At some point many of those "masters" became so delusional in their own garbage that they started to believe they weren't frauds.
The second fighter is not a good example of martial artist, and I sincerely doubt he spars often. He looks extremely sloppy and inexperienced, depending solely on brute force rushing. The reason he won is because the MMA fighter is really quite terrible himself. Although I agree that Xu Xiaodong was not talking about his type but more of the hucksters who sell themselves.
I guess the second "kung fu guy" is an example of why one should never underestimate the sheer will and unorthodox moves of an unskilled fighter and that trained fighters sometimes get lulled into a false sense of security in fighting with a particular cadence. "Kung fu guy" was fighting like a strung out crazy man.
Effectiveness aside, that first guy clearly does NOT practice kung fu of any kind 😂😂😂 and the crowd knew it. He showed zero form. He had no horses (no correct ones anyway), no punches, and no kicks.
Man's was doing some drunken figthing or drugged up fu just didn't have his booze or dope for the figth rendering his deadly techniques useless, I feel bad for the guy just missing out and doing bullshito rather than wing chun or other Chinese martial art that are effective and smartly designed Mma guys Def wasn't too experienced (to say the least) it was hilarious to watch those crazy ass strikes actually hit him and get him rilled up 😂
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Yes, bs unproven and ineffective martial arts that wouldn't last against boxers, Muay Thai fighters, BJJ, Judo, Shotokan Karate... the list goes on... in a full contact fight or especially in Vale Tudo which has no rules
@@mrt445 i actually agree, but not because the martial arts themselves suck (their techniques and concepts are fine) the schools are the dumb thing. Their training methods are lacking. Go ahead and teach boxing to someone without ever letting them spar and you'll see how they do in a fight against someone that does spar I am yet to see someone spar regularly and not learn how to fight. I am a Judo/Jujutsu teacher and did an experiment some years ago. I had untrained people (the only experience they had was watching other people fight) come to my school, get the proper equipment, learn a certain set of rules, and then just spar while i or another student would serve as referee. The first time i did this experiment they came 3 days a week for 5 weeks (i stopped it at the second day of week 5). The result? They learned how to box without me teaching them anything other than the rules they had to follow. Sure, some of them had bad form on certain techniques and some bad habits, but they still had a jab, a proper cross, very good footwork and they even fixed their own stances. That is huge, i would just need to fix the little things, they already had the bigger picture I repeated this (with different people) but with Muay Thai rules and it was also a similar result. Some mediocre clinching for two of them and they did hit each other too low quite a few times, but everything else was fine. This one experiment took 4 weeks instead. Yeah, i did not provide any proof for this ever happening, but if you have ever practiced one of those "real" martial arts, they you have seen the difference on yourself since the first time you sparred and how you get better everytime you do. Sparring teaches you about timing (super important), reacting properly (super important), predicting your opponent (one of the most important things), etc... These things can be learned with drills, but that's just not efficient. Those martial arts that you say are bad, are simply lacking sparring and maybe some other stuff. Btw, Bajiquan is definitely a proven martial art
It's was a drunken master vs an unmixed martial artist, the mma guy took longer to analyze stuff than the extremely effective bullshito master I loved every second of those crazy strikes actually hitting the guy and getting him mad 😭
I agree with this comment, while watching this, i questioned, wtf am i looking at rn? I train muay thai, im not very advanced myself yet(working on it everyday haha) but from what i have seen from the more experienced fighters at my gym, like they would kill everyone involved in the fights i just watched. Like wow. It just looks so bad. Lmao. My coach would be just screaming at me if i fought like the "mma guy" and he'd kick my ass outta the gym if i fought like the "kung fu" guys 🤣🤣🤣
Second guy was more streetbeefs than Kung Fu, but he was not holding back! I think you're first idea was the correct one - the MMA guy just wasn't prepared for a fighter who would come forward and could do damage. "Street King" Could do both.
I think it was both a combination of him not expecting it & also the extreme aggression of the Kung Fu guy definitely not much Kung Fu technique pretty much just shows the strengths of street fighting tho if the MMA guy hadn't have been dazed from the first barrage then the Kung Fu Street Fighter would have been easily taken down cause you can see that he gasses himself out and a Street Fighter with no gas in their tank is the worst thing ever cause they have no real defense for anything that gets thrown at them
Second guy got a really nice reverse collar tie in that first exchange, that was sick lol! I'd like to see him refine some of that aggression, he could be really dangerous!
Usually when someone calls themselves a "Street fighter" at a party I challenge them to a fight. With my luck I'll end up getting my ass kicked by someone like street king one day. Scary dude.
Holy crap that was unexpected. Yea, you don't underestimate your oponent, although if you ask me, that mma practitioner was probably a novice, imho. I wonder what's the background of the street fighter. He definately has done some kung fu, you can clearly see it in his trapping and constant attempts at sticking his arms to his oponent's to set up his defenses and strikes. This type of handwork to set up striking is very common in many styles.
you can find the while video, second guy never claimed to be a master. he is a kung fu trained fighter, but with some experience. He said he went aggressive form the start because the opponent is bigger and possibly stronger. So he had to stay on him and not give him a window of opportunity to inflict damage on him self.
1st match: He was trolling with the Kung Fu until he got hit 😂 good laugh 2nd match, he kept the pressure on him which is good 👍🏿 I’d be so mad if somebody beat me while wearing jeans
I've always heard that most of these ancient martial arts worked back in the day because they are basically advanced physical fitness courses. Kungfu masters would basically work out all day and still use normal punches in a real fight.
the mma dude didnt expect such aggression in the second fight. He was completely shocked lol. Plus he didn't handle pressure well unfortunately. The kung fu guy had technique but balls, and 4 oz gloves. lets not forget:)
It goes to show you...being aggressive in a fight goes REALLY far. Guy #2 has giant gaps in his understanding of combat/ lack of actual experience, BUT he is "switched on" and it scared the other guy lol
Ok, so I agree with the laughter, however, give the guy some credit, he got up, he entered the ring, and he tested his skills in a real time event *Muffled laughter. Guys... I'm trying here! This guy had the hearts and the guts to do what most people dream about doing, and I can tell you that it's not an easy path to walk, whatever the level. And, at the end of days, when that number is called I would be happy to have him stand by my side. Yeah, I'm totally gonna use him as a distraction.
There's a popular story of a kung Fu master who was challenged by his student to fight in public. The master spent a restless night pondering on what technique to use against his student untill he remembered one technique he hadn't taught his student.... When he faced off against his student the following day, he lost the fight as he'd expected UNTILL he used this one technique... He won the fight...(and since then, EVERY Kung Fu teacher will teach his pupil only 90% of his own capability). This is the reason kung Fu ONLY could raise it's head after Bruce Lee came along using a mixture of Karate & Boxing which he called Kung Fu (so that he could play in Taiwanese & Hong Kong movies).
When I'm training my newbies, i always tell them, "if you can't beat your opponents by skills or techniques, outlast and pressure them. Swarm them with punches." Our warm up is 5 km run, 5 minutes of skipping rope 100 push-ups and and 100 burpees. Their first and second matches always win by tko. In boxing, but when the rep counts 14 punches thrown at you even if you're blocking and guarding, that's it, you're tko'd. I'm sure it's different rules in other competitions.
Kung fu guy had a decent stance for the first 5 seconds until the fantasies started taking over🤣☠️.. it's like watching a kid who can't help putting in a couple spinning hero punches😂
First match be like: bullshido vs just an ordinary MMA practitioner trying not to destroy his opponent in the first 30 seconds because it would look rude.
Was yellow shirt actually an MMA fighter or just a kickboxer? I have no idea why he would use boxing gloves instead of gloves that allowed him to grapple
