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two kinds of traditional artists... 

ronillust
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plot twist: they're both broke.
don't look at the toilet paper 0:33
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@void-creature
@void-creature Год назад
Drawing 2B with a 2B pencil. Very clever.
@Tastint
@Tastint Год назад
335 likes and pin but no replys?
@icgoldenice
@icgoldenice Год назад
364 likes and pin and only one reply?
@Adr16n1122
@Adr16n1122 Год назад
Yall ever just reply?
@V0W4N
@V0W4N Год назад
and there goes a reply chain for zero reason
@Nasabuck
@Nasabuck Год назад
@@V0W4N cope.
@danzkez
@danzkez Год назад
As an artist who draws with tools I found in the trash. This is very accurate
@null0357
@null0357 Год назад
Yeah , those chewed off pencils hit different
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Год назад
You draw art with soda cans?
@jellymatsuryuka6853
@jellymatsuryuka6853 Год назад
@@jwalster9412 hey man art is art no?
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 Год назад
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 I knew aluminum made a great pencil!
@merlin9845
@merlin9845 Год назад
Hey, cool pfp.
@chimkencaesarsaladman4343
@chimkencaesarsaladman4343 Год назад
As someone who draws half and half in digital and traditional, I can say that the best rubber I own i stole from a child at the summer camp I work at
@lightvoid7089
@lightvoid7089 Год назад
You stole a condom from a child?????
@hmk4132
@hmk4132 Год назад
Mine from my classmate (I returned it tho💀)
@JunowasMad
@JunowasMad Год назад
Inb4 someone misunderstands what you mean by rubber
@MammalianCreature
@MammalianCreature Год назад
​@@JunowasMad Hopefully even if someone misunderstands, they'll be smart enough to use context clues and figure out that "rubber" means eraser.
@chimkencaesarsaladman4343
@chimkencaesarsaladman4343 Год назад
@@MammalianCreature what- what did I miss what happened I'm scared
@maxcraftobjectssituated5519
@maxcraftobjectssituated5519 8 месяцев назад
Me, a digital artist: I use the same thickness for everything, just different brushes
@aynDRAWS
@aynDRAWS 5 месяцев назад
I use the same brush for everything, just different thickness
@alu2901
@alu2901 4 месяца назад
You guys change the brush and the brush thickness?
@pollyannapayton
@pollyannapayton 4 месяца назад
​@@alu2901I didn't even know that it was an option to begin with. 😮😂
@trustyEBR
@trustyEBR 4 месяца назад
there's brushes?
@SamuraiCake42
@SamuraiCake42 4 месяца назад
@@trustyEBR there are literally brushes on ms paint (not an insult, it's just preinstalled on windows)
@yui-chan9756
@yui-chan9756 4 месяца назад
The second one is so accurate, one time I got desperate and I ended up drawing on a juice box.
@sundalosketch4769
@sundalosketch4769 3 месяца назад
How does one become so desperate to draw? Im frankly scared of that notion alone as an artist.
@kalppi_chou
@kalppi_chou 3 месяца назад
@@sundalosketch4769 the unsatiable urge to create the most diabolic abominations, with the hand of an artist, one can only imagine how overpowered that is
@bigbrainbois9603
@bigbrainbois9603 3 месяца назад
​@@sundalosketch4769it's more like an itch. That's why I always carry sticky notes and a barely functioning mechanical pencil with me.
@whiteeyedshadow8423
@whiteeyedshadow8423 3 месяца назад
I’ve drawn on the back of an old snooping receipt
@whiteeyedshadow8423
@whiteeyedshadow8423 3 месяца назад
RU-vid isn’t letting me edit the comment so to be clear I mean a shopping recipes and not a receipt for being a pervert
@panenaket5129
@panenaket5129 Год назад
Being able to draw a portrait of Rick Astley on toilet paper with just a stolen pencil requires great talent dude.
@bloodyidit4506
@bloodyidit4506 Год назад
It goes beyond talent. Pure hard work.
@jamespowell7268
@jamespowell7268 Год назад
It's hard because the toilet paper rips. Even harder with a pen. Try writing on a double layered square of toilet paper with a pen. It's not super hard but it's anoying.
@timicoens1803
@timicoens1803 Год назад
Thanks, now I know what I'm going to do in art class next time.
@Rain.018
@Rain.018 Год назад
Thanks dude, I actually did that once
@unkn0wni
@unkn0wni Год назад
great talent and indomitable spirit, for the stolen pencil longs for the gentle touch of its rightful owner and will rebel against you
@craboo8668
@craboo8668 3 месяца назад
The optimal equipment set up: 1. Old mechanical pencil 2. Old notebook or sketchbook 3. An incredibly boring morning college lecture 4. Minimal sleep prior to class
@ghazelalghabra3065
@ghazelalghabra3065 Месяц назад
@@craboo8668 3 is so real
@oquark
@oquark 10 месяцев назад
be able to draw with anything anywhere and making it look good is the real thing here. I once drew a portrait of my friend using a toothpick and molten chocolate as ink from his birthday cake on a napkin
@yourlocaldrittenlover
@yourlocaldrittenlover 3 месяца назад
Nice, that's a great talent 👏
@beezwacks
@beezwacks 2 месяца назад
@@yourlocaldrittenlover skill*
@chesceaktv889
@chesceaktv889 Год назад
Number 2 is very relatable...but I think being able to draw on a toilet paper is something of a godly talent
@snailthenormal5156
@snailthenormal5156 Год назад
I once saw my art teacher doodling on a piece of toilet paper with a ball point pen Found a whole facking scenery
@kooolainebulger8117
@kooolainebulger8117 Год назад
cant draw but i draft sketches of projects on the backs of papers i no longer use with a 2b pencil so there's that
@Zaxroxs
@Zaxroxs Год назад
i drew something on my undershirt... because i was out of paper
@dayforsay2034
@dayforsay2034 Год назад
depends on the quality of the toilet paper, I've seen toilet paper that might as well be sand paper.
@fluffybirb4455
@fluffybirb4455 4 месяца назад
The toilet paper always tears halfway through my drawing :(
@karimi8467
@karimi8467 Год назад
remember: if its in the classroom floor when everyone else is gone, that only means its previous owner didn't protect it enough and it's gonna get thrown away if you don't take it (especially if it's a really nice sakura micron pen)
@dyastro7479
@dyastro7479 Год назад
LMAOOOOOO
@zellafae
@zellafae Год назад
I guard my pencils and pens like my life depends on it, I bought nice ones and i don’t intend to loose them
@-Dadara70-
@-Dadara70- Год назад
Even better when it was nicely preserved and has no nametags on it
@Uchiha-_-_-
@Uchiha-_-_- Год назад
@@zellafae same my pens are my children😭
@praaaaaaaa2966
@praaaaaaaa2966 Год назад
Now I know where my stationaries go to when they fall down. I always assumed they got transported to a different universe through a big black hole not visible to the naked eye of humans since they just snap out of existence the second it slips from my hand ;-;
@curseth_9640
@curseth_9640 22 дня назад
Meanwhile i use random pencils that are used for writing for drawing. One for anatomy and shading and one for the lineart
@bassyxgrelle8659
@bassyxgrelle8659 7 месяцев назад
I just kinda grab whatever makes the most sense to me in the moment I'm just sketching for fun? Whatever pencil has lead I want a fully colored drawing? If I want it to look nice, I'll break out the nice colors, but most of the time I'm just gonna grab the first medium I see
@MitridatedCarbon
@MitridatedCarbon Год назад
I'm digital now, but when I draw traditional I was like a weird hobo combination of the 2. Different pencils of all kind, ink pens and colours but all cheap. Like i use disposable ink pens and if I run out of 0.5, I use a normal bic pen. I might share my marker selection with my three year old nephew, use abandoned A4/A3 printing paper from where I worked and keep a pencil until is like 1 cm long. The cool thing is that you slowly lose your sanity, thus you get more creative. Also learn weird techniques, like combining pen shading with colored pencils makes for a cool shading effect. Or using the fresh blood of your scraped index finger (got from using a pencil too short) as a cool distortion effect (don't do it, I was desperate.).
@GingeryGinger
@GingeryGinger Год назад
You know I’ve been contemplating for too long now about wether or not you were serious about that last bit.
@xipheonj
@xipheonj Год назад
@@GingeryGinger I'm still unsure but leaning towards serious. Totally plausible.
@MitridatedCarbon
@MitridatedCarbon Год назад
@@GingeryGinger I'll never tell
@tortis6342
@tortis6342 Год назад
I usually use mechanical pencils to draw. That or my trashy erasable pens.
@FennicArson69
@FennicArson69 Год назад
I used to use blood in my art, mainly when I didn't like the thing I was working on or I wanted to be extra chaotic. The only downside was that eventually, it would turn brown
@FedoraLloyd
@FedoraLloyd Год назад
I’ve always liked mechanical pencils the most. It’s a lot easier to be precise with them than it is with a wooden one.
@calebhessing7593
@calebhessing7593 Год назад
I feel the opposite. Mechanical pencils feel much less precise to me. They always seem to have a flatter tip than wooden pencils. Plus, thinner led sizes break so easily, so I have to use thicker, less precise led.
@jomon324
@jomon324 Год назад
I'm a mechanical pencil fan since I draw TINY, but I've gotten some Blackwing Pearl wooden pencils recently, plus some random ones I found in old boxes, and having sharpened a random valentine's heart-print covered wooden pencil, I find I love it. But I also love my Pilot Dr. Grip shaker pencils and Mono Knock 3.8mm click eraser.
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio Год назад
​@@calebhessing7593 There are tricks to getting it to work better. "Priming" your lead by scribbling at an angle on scrap paper for a chisel top, making sure you keep the tip as short as possible, using better quality brands and not the $3 pack of 50 pencils... But it also sounds like you haven't experienced the joy of a professional grade mechanical pencil. You actually have to use a sharper on them. The leads can be any grade you like and are generally very robust. EDIT: typos
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio Год назад
​@@jomon324 Click erasers are just the best.
@divyaredblox1826
@divyaredblox1826 Год назад
I actually completely agree!
@thinkforyourself518
@thinkforyourself518 8 месяцев назад
I love that their art styles reflect the deeper meanings here.
@h4iley._.fn4f
@h4iley._.fn4f 10 месяцев назад
I just use the pencil and colored pencils i got from school to draw and can actually shade with them very well as they’re cheap asf 😭
@kazuma_matata1707
@kazuma_matata1707 Год назад
It doesn’t matter what kind of art supplies you have as long as you are passionate enough to create ART.
@leafyztar
@leafyztar Год назад
Pregnant vegeta x sonic
@jamielee5738
@jamielee5738 Год назад
@@leafyztar what the flip
@realdragon
@realdragon Год назад
I do like making ART
@thedarkjw6219
@thedarkjw6219 Год назад
According to my sources floor supplies are the best
@JustRei418
@JustRei418 Год назад
Started out with a mechanical pencil and now i have a pencil set gotta say ur right
@LizBizBean
@LizBizBean Год назад
My family keeps wanting me to use fancy pencils, but I really don't care. What about when I doodle in class? I don't wanna whip out a whole new pencil for that
@lilywhitetouhou
@lilywhitetouhou Год назад
Lol sounds a bit like me. I can buy a sketchbook and then use a standard paper from printer (usually with something printed on the other side) to sketch on it because "it's only a silly sketch" and it becomes a fine illustration so I I cut it out and paste it into the sketchbook but what a funny thing, I do it so often I don't really use the sketchbook to begin with. xd
@apelciniapelcinov3633
@apelciniapelcinov3633 Год назад
@@lilywhitetouhou there’s a quote that might interest you, called chuang tzu’s “the archer’s need to win”. it basically says that when shooting for something with stakes, the archer in his need to win tenses up and is unable to loosen his muscles enough to direct the arrow properly.
@milkbagel819
@milkbagel819 Год назад
My parents once gave me a whole art kit with all sorts of cool pencils and smudging tools and different kinds of erasers for christmas I didn’t use any of it. I continued using the beaten up wood pencil and sometimes, if I was feeling real crazy, the ballpoint pen I stole from the vet when I was 6
@SlyceCaik
@SlyceCaik Год назад
@@milkbagel819 I feel like a huge chunk of us got the same set haha
@janus2638
@janus2638 Год назад
if it makes a mark you can draw with it 🙏
@KarrotYT
@KarrotYT 18 дней назад
Every artist can make beautiful art no matter what supplies they use
@bellhel227
@bellhel227 10 месяцев назад
Am I allowed to be a mixture…? I have some pretty cool art supplies, but I always use the weirdest cheapest stuff around my house and end up with 10/10 results 😩😩😩 THE STOLEN PENCIL THO- FACTS.
@jeffbeezos383
@jeffbeezos383 Год назад
as an "artist" whose drawing skills are borderline acceptable, any type of drawing utensil works. even if your pencil is a stick from some park you found and your paper is the ground you're standing on, it's still art as long as you enjoy it
@chaoszhul_4d586
@chaoszhul_4d586 Год назад
That's the spirit!
@nosh62
@nosh62 Год назад
Remember: cave paintings are respected worldwide, yet they look like doodoo fart compared to today's artworks. No matter what you do, they'll be good
@RootsOf7
@RootsOf7 Год назад
​@nosh62 yeah, really depends on what you want. If you want fun, you just need what every is needed for fun. Sometimes you don't even need good tools if you're skills are good
@notacomputer5486
@notacomputer5486 Год назад
Haha Jeff Bee-zos
@jimtekkit
@jimtekkit Год назад
Some of the most impressive art is the stuff you can draw on printer paper with a regular pencil in ten minutes. It's that point where you no longer see a drawing, instead there's a character you recognize on the page looking back at you.
@derpplayer8380
@derpplayer8380 Год назад
As a artist who draws with whatever spawns in my drawer I can confirm that this is true
@sekritdokumint9326
@sekritdokumint9326 11 месяцев назад
Me and my random assortment of stolen pens and mechanical pencils
@Penguin-1966
@Penguin-1966 10 месяцев назад
so thats where the hyperdimensional portal has been stealing my pencils off to
@bellhel227
@bellhel227 10 месяцев назад
*SPAWNS* 🤣
@Stookinator
@Stookinator 8 месяцев назад
@@Penguin-1966 he was taking your pencils, IVE been taking your pens
@JoseHasBeenChosen
@JoseHasBeenChosen 7 месяцев назад
yea i only draw with pens. So im always stealing pens not that i mean to but sometimes i do.
@B.O.Bfrombear
@B.O.Bfrombear 2 месяца назад
I draw on anything i can get my hands on, plain paper, lined paper, grid paper, TABLES... the things i use to draw is the same, pencils, pens, crayon, marker, etc
@gabrielleao8393
@gabrielleao8393 8 дней назад
This is soo true!! I like traditional art, still didn't adapted to digital yet. Man, i have a ton of pencils, like: HB, 2B, 4B, 6B... But when i draw, i always pick the same 2B and use it for the entire draw, sometimes, if a want a ligher shade, i use a random pencil that i don't even know from where came or what type of pencil is I only had this pencil in my school pencil case and I gave up using it because it's too light, then started using for draws only in rare ocasions... But the old 2B that i use for more than 7 years is my true king!
@loganh4642
@loganh4642 11 месяцев назад
the mechanical pencil without the eraser hits different
@TechnoCannonthecoolone
@TechnoCannonthecoolone 3 месяца назад
I feel called out by this.
@loganh4642
@loganh4642 3 месяца назад
@@TechnoCannonthecoolone you’re right, I’m calling you and everyone else out who does this. It’s time we get an eraser that’s not so easily worn out but is as effective as the one on the 2 year old mechanical pencil with the infinite supply of lead in it
@TechnoCannonthecoolone
@TechnoCannonthecoolone 3 месяца назад
@@loganh4642 And not just a trashy eraser that just picks up the graphite and smears it, that sucks.....
@loganh4642
@loganh4642 3 месяца назад
@@TechnoCannonthecoolone exactly
@samuelflipaclip7415
@samuelflipaclip7415 3 месяца назад
Or a pen holder that someone threw away on the floor and use it to make 3 series of a iconic manga,
@GrimCrumbz
@GrimCrumbz Год назад
I remember one time in high school a kid asked what kind of pencil I used to draw because he wanted to draw like me. And I literally used a cheap mechanical pencil that I found on the hallway floor. It doesn’t matter what assets you have, if you’re passionate enough, you can create incredible things.
@vaughan2632
@vaughan2632 Год назад
I will say although good materials don't make up for a lack of knowledge and skill, they sure fucking help
@Red_Steampunker
@Red_Steampunker Год назад
Some of my best art has been with a stolen mechanical pencil. Drew a horrific creature with it. And I meant to burn it irl, and the picture is gone. I’m worried to this day, it knows.
@arrebarre
@arrebarre Год назад
@@Red_Steampunker that would actually make for a great horror short story
@Red_Steampunker
@Red_Steampunker Год назад
@@arrebarre so I found the picture, stumbled upon it. Noticed a new detail. I hate the image but damn is it good lol
@Khajiidaro
@Khajiidaro Год назад
Yeah, I come from a family of talented artists and it really is just how you use the tools that matters. You could buy an expensive thousand dollar set of pencils and end up making absolute garbage or just buy a cheap #2 and make some impressive work.
@MagoodYepoo-jh7be
@MagoodYepoo-jh7be 10 месяцев назад
This is relatable as an artist when you experience it, though i tried many different kind of coloring materials that suit my point of view as well as other utensils. When you feel like you're lacking something you just want to buy fashionable utensils that suits your art style because i noticed no matter what type of tools or materials you use doesn't actually mean it'll i'mprove your art, so basically start at beginning and go on slowly no need to rush you'll improve soon
@ThatObnoxiousMagpie
@ThatObnoxiousMagpie Месяц назад
I’m both, I have so many unique and helpful art supplies but I have no idea where any of them are so I just use whatever I find under my bed
@obi-wan-pierogi
@obi-wan-pierogi Год назад
I draw digitally. But I don’t use clipping masks and erase the shit that goes over my lineart manually cause I think it’s fun : )
@moritakaishida7963
@moritakaishida7963 Год назад
Same, aside from taking advantage of things like gaussian blur and the halftone feature in procreate, I largely just work exactly as I do with traditional work, does it take longer ? Yes Are there better ways to draw digitally but I just won't learn them ? ...yes Is it more satisfying when it feels as close to traditional as possible? Indeed it is at least for me
@obi-wan-pierogi
@obi-wan-pierogi Год назад
@@moritakaishida7963 same I have been only drawing digitally for the past few years so I got like over a decade of traditional art habits I can’t get rid of. The way I render art digitally is very much the same way I render when I paint cause I’m too lazy to learn an entire different style Lmao
@obi-wan-pierogi
@obi-wan-pierogi Год назад
Still need to draw more cause I’m not as good digitally as I am traditionally
@AymenZero
@AymenZero Год назад
wtf. okay that's just fucked.
@FedoraLloyd
@FedoraLloyd Год назад
The app I use doesn’t have clipping masks (I mean I could upgrade it for two bucks and get masks but why would I do that) so for shading layers I always duplicate the colouring layer, change it to my desired layer mode, and then apply the shading colours. Black is invisible on Glow layers, white is invisible on Multiply, 50% grey is on Hard Light. Serves the same purpose as clipping masks nearly just as efficiently XD
@tableswithoutchairs1168
@tableswithoutchairs1168 Год назад
As someone that can draw horribly, every time I read the comments on ronillust’s videos I feel like I’m breaking into a society where everyone is just extremely talented and I just gotta blend in and pretend I’m good at art
@salven6476
@salven6476 Год назад
"But are you even good enough to have imposter syndrome?" ~anxiety This is a comment intended to mean "don't beat yourself up"
@wiibowling
@wiibowling Год назад
same 😅
@addysart5027
@addysart5027 Год назад
It's a new specimen
@duck-cc4cx
@duck-cc4cx Год назад
its not fr dont worry most people are mid
@Sirvaria
@Sirvaria Год назад
This is the true hobby artist experience
@r2z0r
@r2z0r 8 месяцев назад
I will literally draw on any surface with any pencil, love those thick pencils with 'grainy' lines 😍
@screamingndyingwoo
@screamingndyingwoo 4 месяца назад
number 2 is so relatable, I sometimes use a ball point pen to draw on toilet paper whenever a sketchbook finishes
@ChiDestiny
@ChiDestiny Год назад
I have got so many good art supplies from the floor. One was a beautiful paint pen worth around $6 for ONE... sucks to whoever lost it 🤷‍♀️
@lyngendofzelda
@lyngendofzelda Год назад
I stole it sorry it’s mine now
@HamsterzGacha
@HamsterzGacha Год назад
@@lyngendofzelda *radish* ...read more
@super_nova4989
@super_nova4989 Год назад
@@HamsterzGacha YOU GOT ME DAMNIT
@cryptical1210
@cryptical1210 Год назад
Hah that's sad
@HipposHateWater
@HipposHateWater Год назад
I found two Prismacolor marker sets in a dumpster once. Only about 6 of the 40-50 markers were dry.
@lovesick_loser
@lovesick_loser Год назад
studied art in college for two years, my favorite tools are still the random unbranded mechanical pencil ive had for 10 years, a random (to be fair, at least student grade) sketchbook, and an eraser i literally found on the ground near a bush during orientation. All my expensive supplies are packed neatly into a box somewhere, untouched after using them for the last time in class.
@njnjco
@njnjco Год назад
People underestimate the power of a mechanical pencil.
@KarmaO3VT
@KarmaO3VT Год назад
SAME
@apoIIc
@apoIIc 11 месяцев назад
I found this pencil on a table in art class and it works so well I can literally feel the difference when I use other pencils. To others it just looks like an ordinary pencil, but its my idol.
@fredericleveque7873
@fredericleveque7873 11 месяцев назад
i never realy used much more than a mechanical pencil either when drawing on physical support, i don't think having anything else is usefull when you mostly do rough sketches, best part is you are idk, waiting for your favorite e-sport bar to open in 2 hours and you don't know what to do, take 5 bucks, go to nearest store, and you get a notebook and a pencil, literally the cheapest thing around xD your 2 hours of waiting just turned into a shitload of sketch to transfer on your digital support for painfull hours a lining... and not get the line correctly... and ctrl Z... and lining again... and guess what, still not getting it xD
@hypphen
@hypphen 10 месяцев назад
@@njnjco 1# favorite art supply theyre js too good
@pyechos
@pyechos 7 дней назад
the second is so real. like, i draw with random high school stuff i've found there and there (i'm 23) and when i don't have paper anymore, i draw on my furnitures. recently i bought a lil cutie box with different pencils inside, i didn't use the pencils but there are drawings on the box
@thebrownhare
@thebrownhare 10 месяцев назад
I have some of the supplies seen in the first kind, but I specifically do traditional art by sketching with a 10H pencil, erasing with either a smooth normal eraser, or a kneadable one, coloring with some well stored oil pencils and a small set of prismacolor premier soft ones, outlining with either some random led pencil or a black ballpoint pen, and drawing on a ripped cover for a large hardcover book with some paper stolen from where my house's two printers sit.
@alchemistnezumi9780
@alchemistnezumi9780 Год назад
As the kid that had PrismaColors in art class that EVERYONE wanted to borrow, I can confirm this is accurate.
@vitaliitomas8121
@vitaliitomas8121 10 месяцев назад
Did they give anything back?
@jovannydiazabad6123
@jovannydiazabad6123 10 месяцев назад
meanwhile me in school using crayola and Sargent Art
@towerofhelluse1
@towerofhelluse1 9 месяцев назад
I use crayons
@myrtlealley
@myrtlealley 8 месяцев назад
I was going to call you out for saying everyone wanted to borrow your roseart supplies but yeah prismacolors are great.
@WhattonamethisAcc
@WhattonamethisAcc 8 месяцев назад
Bro i have the 64 pack crayola and everyone in my classroom hogged for it💀💀 I HAD NO CRAYONS TO USE IMAOO THEY BE RAZZLEDABBING ROOGEYDEEDOING EVERYTHING😭😭
@EliqzART
@EliqzART Год назад
Yea I'm over here drawing with a pencil and sticky notes. Wish fancy paper and copics were affordable because the art I've seen with copics look top tier
@randallmokjialung3592
@randallmokjialung3592 Год назад
you mean to say the artist's skill is top tier
@EliqzART
@EliqzART Год назад
Well yes but I also meant by top tier is that traditional art done with good quality products can look nearly identical to digital art regardless of an artist skill even though that does also apply
@anameyoucantremember
@anameyoucantremember Год назад
@@randallmokjialung3592 I mean, it's all about skill, but good luck trying to paint a watercolor landscape with only a pencil.
@lego_minifig
@lego_minifig Год назад
Yeah copics are so pricey it’s hard to justify investing in more than just the grey tones
@nomoretwitterhandles
@nomoretwitterhandles Год назад
I'm over here using a pen and sticky notes (sticky notes gang!) I get most of my basic ideas from my sticky note sketches, then I remake them later on my tablet because I hate sketching digitally lol. It just doesn't have the same feeling for me.
@PhantomArceus
@PhantomArceus 4 месяца назад
Sometimes the limits we have lead to invitation and progress never before seen.
@rain_xdofficial
@rain_xdofficial 16 дней назад
both are literally so accurate to me
@squishy9178
@squishy9178 Год назад
The beauty of art is that you can use pretty much anything
@AoH_player
@AoH_player Год назад
Like n-
@burushifudara
@burushifudara Год назад
Like Excel
@human0685
@human0685 Год назад
@@burushifudara Excel is a pixel art software
@7PhoenixAshes
@7PhoenixAshes Год назад
I don't color traditionally very often, but when I do I genuinely love using Crayola crayons (as in the kind you give to kindergarteners). They don't smudge, come in near-infinite colors, and cost next to nothing!
@FedoraLloyd
@FedoraLloyd Год назад
I tend to find with those it’s hard to blend them or get them to a point where the wax doesn’t start flaking off unless I’m drawing suuuuper lightly. Which, I like bolder, darker colours, so it doesn’t really sit well with me, but they are fun (:
@aquabluerose7734
@aquabluerose7734 Год назад
​@@FedoraLloyd yeah they're definitely best for pastel colored artwork. Going in with shadow tones first on dark parts of the drawing can help slightly, but even dark crayons don't go on as dark as most other media.
@user-op5gr7vr7e
@user-op5gr7vr7e Год назад
eat them
@UMAIstudios
@UMAIstudios Год назад
I know it feels awfully stupid but I agree with you.
@justblue974
@justblue974 4 месяца назад
Just a gem of a video
@omarthenut
@omarthenut 2 месяца назад
The best part about this is that my favourite drawing pencil is one I found on the floor during my a level literature class
@liamvautier944
@liamvautier944 Год назад
I once saw a classmate(we were on the "visual arts" specialty of our school) draw a masterpiece with dots made with the cheapest pen on a disposable foamy cup that the drugstore owner gave to him when buying himself a coffee for literally a few coins of our local money. That guy and the scrapbooking community here on youtube teached me that every trash you can find is literally an art material waiting to be discovered, lmao.
@soglabel
@soglabel 8 месяцев назад
this is the way
@apelciniapelcinov3633
@apelciniapelcinov3633 Год назад
i like to use office materials. they’re made for efficiency, while also being cheap and simple. colorful ballpoint pens are a lot of fun and when you try and color your stuff in the style of a comic book they can add a lot of fun color pops. if you’re looking for bolder fills, i like to use crayola markers. they’re cheap, easy to use, washable, and dynamic. my go-to for paper has always been postit notes. it’s great for artists who come up with ideas at random because you can carry a pad of them in your jean pocket, quickly sketch something, then discard it if it doesn’t turn out right. i also have a lot of fun using them as final canvases because their size means i can finish a piece before i have time to second guess, and i have fun playing with different colored backgrounds for my art. in terms of pencils i like the uniformity and reliability of the bic mechanical pencil, as well as how fine the tip is. it’s always really intriguing to me how people in the art world react to my material choices with awe or envy, or misperceive me as being a monastic snob who thinks “true talent doesn’t need to hide behind fancy materials”, because the whole reason i use these is because i have clinical dysgraphia and grew up believing that for me to use supplies that cost a lot of money was just inherently wasteful, and it would be more conscientious of me to outlet my pent up creativity on everyone else’s scraps. and the reason i do so well with these is because I’m a stylized cartoonist, not a realistic or high-render artist, and because of my material choices i’ll probably never make large improvements in those areas. i will say though that one definite advantage of being a supply omnivore is that you not only spend less money, you also become very adaptable and able to roll with the stuff that your surroundings have on hand.
@Dragoniiia
@Dragoniiia Год назад
Tbh ball pen is literally my favourite art supply. Neither anything else in traditional nor in digital can beat the flexibility and a range of lines ball pen can do.
@Dragoniiia
@Dragoniiia Год назад
Oh and I DO mean for shading and rendering!
@that_tvhead
@that_tvhead Год назад
i love drawing on "ruled index cards" (practically blank flash cards), which seem to be like 1 to 10 USD for most packs. i just took them from my house's little shelf once and stuffed them in my desk drawer.
@pizza134
@pizza134 Год назад
Tbh, ball point pens are cheap but so useful, specially for sketching, nothing beats a ballpoint pen when it comes to sketching
@blackcrow4446
@blackcrow4446 Год назад
I use postit notes too!
@aftgtrash7368
@aftgtrash7368 2 месяца назад
my fav pens are always random ones i picked up from the ground
@SomeoneNooneTomatoes
@SomeoneNooneTomatoes 7 месяцев назад
Me, my paper mate pencil, and notebook paper are def going places.
@fangthewarrior
@fangthewarrior Год назад
In the end, all we need to survive is a 2B pencil and anything paper
@pistoletsrouge7304
@pistoletsrouge7304 Год назад
True
@kayjay1909
@kayjay1909 Год назад
Not true *doodles on wall*
@fangthewarrior
@fangthewarrior Год назад
@@kayjay1909 True
@elizacakescantanimate5096
@elizacakescantanimate5096 Год назад
I like how you can also use this with digital artists- like how there’s people with super high-quality drawing tablets with super complex and expensive programs on their computer, and I’m over here with an iPad mini 4, a free program, and my finger
@Hayasaku-B3B
@Hayasaku-B3B Год назад
I have an ipad 7,a free program and sometimes my diy 1$ Apple Pencil (mostly my finger)
@GigaChadSora
@GigaChadSora 11 месяцев назад
Ipad iPhone? My mans, I draw on a Samsung Pocket with a broken screen with my finger, while having cell phone allergies. you all in heaven
@4bloxstuff
@4bloxstuff 11 месяцев назад
people who draw with the mouse:
@JulesJuno737
@JulesJuno737 10 месяцев назад
@@4bloxstuff Pen tool supremacy. Doing trigonometry while drawing I can't even-
@kissezss
@kissezss 9 месяцев назад
same except I have an iPad mini 5
@hvnsl
@hvnsl 4 месяца назад
I can do both, I got expensive supplies, markers and all that and then I have also drawn good stuff with a ballpointpen that I found on the ground once
@UnstableP3rson
@UnstableP3rson 4 месяца назад
Number two is SO me! whenever i draw something traditionally, i literally have no color pencils, markers or anything to color with! my sister has alot but she hides them from me.
@Spilt_soda
@Spilt_soda 11 месяцев назад
The first one sounds like a dream and the second one sounds like my true purpose in life.
@blackrosejinx5563
@blackrosejinx5563 Год назад
This video is a special ode to the mechanical pencil I took from my teacher and used throughout all of middle school. It was stepped on, chewed, lost and found several times, broken, thrown off a building once, and ALMOST eaten by my dog. I still have it
@captainyolowaffle3160
@captainyolowaffle3160 Год назад
Oh jeez I can barely keep the same pencil for more than a few weeks before I lose it
@WindyDazee
@WindyDazee Год назад
​@@captainyolowaffle3160 ya same
@blackrosejinx5563
@blackrosejinx5563 Год назад
@Marcos Moutta Just picture a standard papermate mechanical pencil. Except the eraser is destroyed, the body is shattered and the only thing keeping it from falling to pieces is some tape.
@grqfes
@grqfes Год назад
Mann my pencil a rotring 600 you drop that thing a couple times and it's gone
@LS-rp6yq
@LS-rp6yq Год назад
I found one in Chernobyl that one i’ve been using it for five years now but do have say it having a face is unsettling
@KrystianSzybkiGość38
@KrystianSzybkiGość38 20 часов назад
The best pencil I ever had I found under the school desk
@keroppib4ptista
@keroppib4ptista 4 месяца назад
This has been in my recommended for 11 months
@reinbew794
@reinbew794 Год назад
The fact that a digital art program such as Krita would cost my life savings if it was traditional art scares me.
@huddled_up
@huddled_up Год назад
yay a fellow krita user
@lillianhenderson-saunders5119
I am the broke artist but I badly want to try digital
@wiseknight6180
@wiseknight6180 Год назад
@@taledrawer lmao I'm a digital artist and my entire kit only costs like 30 usd for just a drawing tablet lol and the application I use is medibang paint (free)
@TheAllcreatorLiveArchives
@TheAllcreatorLiveArchives Год назад
The fact that all anyone in the future will be able to afford is "traditional art" scares me. I'm happy I was able to get a wacom Cintiq when it was affordable. To all artists of the future, I pray for you. Don't let anyone tell you that you're not as good as a professional. You are, maybe even more so then people who drop thousands of dollars on there art. It's no secret that true art comes from a single person. So when you're watching a Disney animated film, with it a ridiculous budget and legions of college trained slaves, just remember that you will allways be just as good as them. You are even better then them when you actually enjoy what you do.
@chickenbreast7016
@chickenbreast7016 Год назад
@Lillian henderson-Saunders I got a UGEE tablet, i think it was under 200$ when I got it. Also I have made some decent things on krita with a mouse, it all takes some practice.
@PlsSpankMeh
@PlsSpankMeh Год назад
There are so many talented artists in this world that negate good materials that people forget that having good materials makes a *HUGE* difference when it comes to improvement. Whether you like it or not, having good materials will make you improve much faster. Heck, I've been stuck for a long ass time and couldn't improve my coloring skill because I only got cheap color pencils, but when I got my first prisma, I improved like I was in my puberty or something.
@lightvoid7089
@lightvoid7089 Год назад
you're just bad at art then
@justradiclesandco
@justradiclesandco Год назад
It helps to have at least the basic working tools like a pencil, and some colors. It doesn’t have to be the top and best tools to improve your art. It’s good to have more options when you do need it and you feel comfortable with finding more options
@JumbaJumby
@JumbaJumby Год назад
@@lightvoid7089 My take on this topic is that you shouldn't obsess over your materials and believe that you'll get better just because you got a new toy. HOWEVER. What you very much so should be aware of is when you are being held back by your tools. When I was first learning how to draw I bought way too much into the "don't obsess over your tools" idea, and put up with way too many hindrances and annoyances as a result. When I finally upgraded my tools, it was instantly apparent how stupid I was for using such shoddy crap for so long. Also worth saying that while you don't necessarily need to use many different tools to create good art, there's nothing wrong with exploring your tools. Like sure you could tighten a screw by hand, but a screwdriver goes a long way.
@nicktallfox5266
@nicktallfox5266 Год назад
You don't really need top quality tools unless you're a top quality artist, but by god are the really cheap colored pencils a nightmare to use. I've had the displeasure of using one of those big cheap box sets that every little kid dreams about when i was an adult and let me tell you, i would have given up on art as a whole if i got my hands on it as a child. Absolutely USELESS. There are good affordable supplies for traditional art, but there is a line, and going below it will make you feel like a faliure because you won't be able to do basic stuff. A little research, a few youtube vids of testing different brands should be enough to tell which are the good ones :)
@LycanKai14
@LycanKai14 Год назад
People aren't buying cheaper things for fun. Not everyone can afford the expensive stuff.
@-MansBestFriend
@-MansBestFriend 17 дней назад
Can confirm I draw with a pencil that has tape in the middle holding it together bc I wanted to see how hard it took to break it in half and crayola super tips that I love with all my heart.
@Nexiusify
@Nexiusify 4 месяца назад
The second group are usually super gifted artists.
@aiiiia9971
@aiiiia9971 11 месяцев назад
Art is art! No matter the cost of materials! Go ham artists, don't feel that you gotta break the bank But if you can and it makes you happy, power to you! And if you can't afford, you are still just as much of an artist! It is your vision, emotion and effort that will truly shine no matter the material
@obamius4521
@obamius4521 6 месяцев назад
As long as it’s not r34 of a car
@maslinolovcherik8387
@maslinolovcherik8387 4 месяца назад
@@obamius4521 E L A B O R A T E immediately
@altsadhara
@altsadhara 4 месяца назад
​@obamius4521 Let the people express their love for automation! Art is for everyone! Even the people who ought not to have it.
@AZETAX3750
@AZETAX3750 4 месяца назад
@@obamius4521 if youre talking the nissan car yeah i dont mind but if youre talking of something else *who draws that?*
@AZETAX3750
@AZETAX3750 4 месяца назад
@@altsadhara youre telling me that i should let people draw r34 (not the nissan) of a car and let them get away with it WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
@Jonanation
@Jonanation Год назад
I know this feeling lol. When I started out in art, I got Jazza’s arty box. very helpful stuff. Also wished for alcohol markers, pencils, the works, for christmas. I have a huge drawer full of ink pens, half of which ran out, and someone once bought me a 45 set high quality watercolours. My preferred medium is a random chisel brush I found, my trusty 12-set watercolours I got from my mom that are literally older than me, and one of those magic coloured pencils with three different colours in the tip-
@qtash8309
@qtash8309 5 месяцев назад
And the ones who draw on toilet paper make the sickest art
@themindeclectic9821
@themindeclectic9821 4 месяца назад
I have frequently been stopped from my attempts to draw by not having a single writing or drawing utensil in the house
@creative_leafeonpony_fan1545
My family, very supporting of my art, has gotten me plenty of different fancy-sounding art supplies over the years. I still draw primarily just with one set of those .5 .10 whatever markers and a Happy Easter pencil. My eraser is shaped like a ninja.
@Cam1417-TK
@Cam1417-TK Год назад
Very cool eraser.
@ririinu_
@ririinu_ Год назад
you just like me 😭😭
@tinycervid7679
@tinycervid7679 Год назад
Top tier eraser
@RaineWilder
@RaineWilder Год назад
That’s awesome. Reminds me I had a ninja turtle eraser back in the 90s. They don’t make them any more 😢
@Skykristal
@Skykristal Год назад
As someone who has used both, supplies only matter for the quality of the colors and textures. Prismacolor pencils for example are incredibly vibrant wnd beautiful. High in pigments. Compared to cheap 1€ ones. Will it make you a better artist? No. will it improve what you are already capable of? Yes.
@Glnhl884
@Glnhl884 Месяц назад
I use the same pencils I bought for a dollar 2 years ago and a kneadable eraser, it works for me bc I get to focus more on my work and less on the tools I use
@Banana-cat0206
@Banana-cat0206 10 месяцев назад
This is the definition of me and my friend
@otavio_and_hugo
@otavio_and_hugo Год назад
As an artist who can't buy any artist kit, i can confirm i use my school materials to draw
@fahadalghamdi9316
@fahadalghamdi9316 Год назад
an HB pencil and a lot of printer paper goes a LONG way.
@otavio_and_hugo
@otavio_and_hugo Год назад
@@fahadalghamdi9316 yeah
@elainez
@elainez 6 месяцев назад
@@fahadalghamdi9316 Well said. Sometimes some lightly scrunched looseleaf is necessary if all else is gone.
@ITSYABOYCHILDEE
@ITSYABOYCHILDEE 3 месяца назад
the mechanical pencils from the floor of the freshmen halls hit different bro
@cakepann
@cakepann 3 месяца назад
1 is me when it comes to school assignments for art, 2nd is me for personal art
@Proxov7
@Proxov7 Год назад
i paint in digital with only 1 layers 🗿 Edit:well its true i did paint in 1 layer for many months and idk how to stop it pls help me
@pkhakumen2340
@pkhakumen2340 Год назад
Is it possible to learn such power??
@MitridatedCarbon
@MitridatedCarbon Год назад
You live in chaos
@JayTohab
@JayTohab Год назад
madman!
@theninjabird9510
@theninjabird9510 Год назад
Heresy!
@surreal9239
@surreal9239 Год назад
🤨😐😶
@terracottagecheese2767
@terracottagecheese2767 Год назад
I'm like a weird mix of the two. I have some Prismacolors, Copic markers, high end ink pens....but I almost exclusively sketch out/doodle everything with a cheap, dollar store mechanical pencil on these (also cheap) sketchbooks from my local Hobby Lobby. Edited for clarity.
@spade8094
@spade8094 Год назад
Atleast your nearby a hobby lobby
@jjbowman4653
@jjbowman4653 Год назад
Cheap mechanical pencil
@Not_Kaitlyn
@Not_Kaitlyn Год назад
That's a waste of money, I can't even afford prismacolors :/
@spade8094
@spade8094 Год назад
@@Not_Kaitlyn Me neither, I had to steal mine
@terracottagecheese2767
@terracottagecheese2767 Год назад
@@Not_Kaitlyn Well, the Prismacolors were a birthday gift... And, seeing as it's my own personal income and no one else's, I don't think buying one replacement Copic marker every few months or a higher quality, not-from-the-dollar-store pen once and a while is a waste. Honestly, since I grew up rather, well, poor to be frank, as an adult I take joy in actually being able to spend more than three dollars on art supplies now and again. (If anything I've said sounds rude or overly sarcastic I sincerely didn't intend for it to sound so and just wished to state a simple reply.)
@siimplydevil7752
@siimplydevil7752 6 месяцев назад
I take any random pencil when I see a piece of paper and start drawing lol
@nikemegu1142
@nikemegu1142 4 месяца назад
I spent about half an hour looking for a purple marker/pencil a few days ago and couldnt find one so i just took a random marker i found in a school desk
@HapyHappiness
@HapyHappiness Год назад
I had a friend who once bragged about doing art with a fancy pencil that you could shake to get the tip to come out more. Now, years later, I own one of those pencils because I found it in the floor of the college lecture hall :)
@nghtbot340
@nghtbot340 11 месяцев назад
Bro literally drew a GIF, he's unstoppable
@PoptartWrites
@PoptartWrites 10 месяцев назад
you gotta do one for the digital artists out there!!
@xxizcrilexlxx1505
@xxizcrilexlxx1505 Месяц назад
You have 2 guys The one that draws in his cracked, old cousin's phone with a stick with paper foil on the end And the guy Who had 3 livers spare for a entire studio
@mishmash5576
@mishmash5576 9 месяцев назад
Mechanical pencil on binder paper is my JAM
@Phirestar
@Phirestar Год назад
The best drawings I had ever done in my life were back in high school using lined paper torn out of a notebook or a page ripped from a dollar store sketchbook, and using literally a mechanical pencil. I once even taped two sheets together because I needed more space on the bottom due to how big I made the character. That one’s folded in half inside of the binder I put it in alongside the rest. To be fair, though, you probably should use proper drawing pencils, especially if you’re planning on shading your drawings. I did one where I pressed so hard into the page for those darker tones, the whole thing glows like holographic trading card when you hold it up to the light. These days, I’m rocking a sketchbook and a basic kit of artist tools - a few graphite pencils, a couple charcoal pencils (unused), a sharpener, and vinyl / kneaded erasers - both from Five & Below. I also found a 12-count set of 2H - 12B pencils at Hobby Lobby that I got for about $10 as part of a 40% off sale. (Those ones draw a lot smoother than the ones from the kit.)
@VentiVonOsterreich
@VentiVonOsterreich 11 месяцев назад
Imo, the best artists are the resourceful ones who use what they have at hand
@imjustvi6279
@imjustvi6279 2 месяца назад
I've done both. They are both very lovely. First one results in higher quality, but the second one results in higher quantity.
@jstar2332
@jstar2332 9 месяцев назад
Make that chewed up pencil have no eraser and it’s spot on
@tisen.
@tisen. 11 месяцев назад
I once found an amazing 5B pencil at my school, it was used for all of my portraits since I found it. when it got kinda used up I bought a pack of them. you really find the best tools at random places lmao
@sankyumiku
@sankyumiku Год назад
I always like when people draw with unconventional tools. As a kid, I would draw on the walls of our house with leaves (and flowers for color variation). I would rub them on the concrete wall and they’d leave stains. I also drew on restaurant tissue papers, on school properties and text books (vandalism ik but I didn’t know better and I didn’t get caught anyways 🤭) I find the idea of leaving a part of yourself behind to let others find and know you’ve been there fascinating and fun.
@katescosmos
@katescosmos Год назад
Yeaah... I don't know if the idea of leaving a part of yourself would excuse vandalism, but you do you I guess.
@HisuiOgawa
@HisuiOgawa 23 дня назад
Made me chuckle because I've been drawn with that same random mechanical pencil I found in school for years 'till it broke, and I'm not sure I've ever bought proper paper to draw on. 😂
@Paradox-vu9ro
@Paradox-vu9ro 7 месяцев назад
I just raid the supply closet for whatever medium I need in my art projects
@luzmaria1485
@luzmaria1485 Год назад
No importa que tan bueno y conocido seas, todos dibujamos en hojas de oficio con un lápiz escolar
@TheHumbleHollow
@TheHumbleHollow Год назад
I've always wanted an excuse to use all the fancy, situational pencils, to the point where I have a pack or two at home. But I honestly just don't have the skill for it, so good ol' school pencil works for now.
@anothersettlementneedsyour9628
@anothersettlementneedsyour9628 4 месяца назад
My primary tool for making most of my art is the plain blue ballpoint pen, occasionally I use color pen set for cca 1.25 dollars. Occasionally I use pencil at school because cetrain teachers want us to.
@Hyster1cal1nsan1ty
@Hyster1cal1nsan1ty 6 месяцев назад
I'm literally the second one, I have one completely and utterly disfigured and chewed on pencil which is my to go pencil like ALWAYS
@Splat654
@Splat654 Год назад
I reached a point where i have all kinds of traditional materials and i am relearning drawing in general from the start, though i have been drawing for i dunno how many years, like 5-10. And at this moment i more wish to be the last guy and trying to be. I now just try to use whatever materials i have nearby, experimenting, like trying highlighter markers with color pencils. The idea, mainly, is just to draw, and if your perfectionism stoping you from so, fight it by doing quantity over quality sketches. And by making deliberate ugly,or extra quick drawings.
@apelciniapelcinov3633
@apelciniapelcinov3633 Год назад
i recommend post-it notes for this purpose! they helped me a lot because they were so small, i would finish a piece before i had time to second guess it to bits
@nigilist
@nigilist Год назад
RU-vid artist vs Real artist
@susmongusidkaltaccountbass4301
@@WennerGenner youtube artist needs all this expensive stuff to think it looks good. A normal artist can use anything, cheap or expensive, and make it look good.
@reiku--
@reiku-- Год назад
@@susmongusidkaltaccountbass4301 bahahhahaa at least we wish we can- a normal artist can use anything, cheap or expensive, and make it look terrible
@susmongusidkaltaccountbass4301
@@reiku-- sad reality we live in 😔
@titandarknight2698
@titandarknight2698 Год назад
RU-vid artists are Real artists. Why make the distinction? If they draw then they draw. If they use pencil or copic thier still artists.
@nomoretwitterhandles
@nomoretwitterhandles Год назад
You meant to say real artist vs real artist If you make art you're an artist 💀
@Nosakima
@Nosakima 5 месяцев назад
As a traditional artist, this is very accurate.
@dianheart2243
@dianheart2243 9 месяцев назад
I personally like to use the special drawing mechanical pencils. If I drew one good thing with a mechanical pencil, that one is blessed and I use it till it dies. So far, only the slightly broken ones I've found on the floors of buildings seem to be blessed.
@therewasoldcringe
@therewasoldcringe Год назад
my favourite drawing tool is that multicolour ballpoint pen that every kid tries to push all colours at once
@thunderdumpling3528
@thunderdumpling3528 Год назад
I mostly sketch and study with digital. But for an actual illustration. I like to go back to traditional after careful planning. I usually just use watercolor and some simple pens. I like traditional manga methods. Have something physical is fun. And then i just digitze it with a photo. Markers and marker paper always seemed kind of odd to me. Some mediums require really specific supplies.
@Pink_N_High
@Pink_N_High 5 месяцев назад
That is what i want to become. An artist that can draw anything with anything.
@cloud8005
@cloud8005 7 месяцев назад
Bought a bunch of fancy art supplies to sketch and ended up almost never using them in favor of my trusty old dollar store mechanical pencils, mutilated tortellion, and extensive collection of eraser caps
@ddrw1
@ddrw1 Год назад
Me being the last one LOL But fr this is especially relatable if your a kid artist, I remember practicing on old pieces of papers I’d find around the house with my pencil, and I had genuine fun not caring about “this must turn out absolutely perfect so others love me” and just drawing cats and weird critters, occasionally trying shading and throwing away my doodles once I’m done. That was bliss. And I really do try to replicate that bliss, and I’ve had relative success, it’s mixed in slightly with the “If this isn’t perfect is every way possible I’m no different from the mound of dirt outside” only when I’m doing commissions (still don’t know how I’m getting any). Ngl I feel like the important thing is to just have fun, it doesn’t matter if you don’t have super expensive markers, just do what you want.
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