Two-Pot Vs. Four-Pot Hydraulic Disc Brakes | What’s The Difference?

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Two Piston brakes, four piston brakes; what exactly is the difference? What are they for? Are 4-pistons overkill? To find out, Neil and Blake headed into the Shropshire hills for an epic mountain bike ride🤘
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Blake and Neil will be using Shimano XT 2 and 4 piston disc brakes to demonstrate the differences in performance as they take in the beautiful views of the British countryside on their MTB ride.
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@gmbn 4 года назад

Do you use 2 or 4 piston disc brakes? Let us know 👇

@idselseno2306 4 года назад

One pot. Mechanical. Send me your 4 pot if you don't like it. Thank you.

@WhatWouldNarutoDo0611 4 года назад

Its 4 pots for me, in downhill you cant trust a 2 pot break

@davidkeane2399 4 года назад

4 pot MT5s. But I'm a fat arse😂😂😂

@Ennimax 4 года назад

Just changed from a Sram Guide to a Code on my Tues - even though they are both 4 pistons it is a huge difference. But even on my Enduro 4 pistons (Saint).

@bender8941 4 года назад

4 pistons. Because my weight is 220 lbs :).

@mrToglovski56709 4 года назад

Whoever shot the video and edited needs a medal. This is like Lord of the Rings cinematic Or maybe, Lord of the Pots ha..ha...

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

Relvi Barelvi that’s what I thought,the editing is really good

@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ 4 года назад

Guy had some fun with his work for sure I think it was done or budgeted by Shimano

@Boopop1024 4 года назад

Bravo to the drone pilot!

@gabetaylor7922 4 года назад

Lord of the Chainrings?

@conalodonoghue7147 4 года назад

I agree. Great filming.

@klamauk 4 года назад

The cinematography here at GMBN is getting better and better!

@bangoman2653 4 года назад

I agree - starting to remind me of peak Top Gear back in the day. Like the Audi RS4 race versus the climbers.

@mrkeefor 3 года назад

Dare I say. Makes GCN look amateur

@Pienimusta 4 года назад

"Oh pot you said?" - Blake walks in with a joint

@swimmerchamp3401 4 года назад

I was waiting for that

@braedenmurray3598 4 года назад

I think i need to change my bikeing trip from vancuver to uk

@charliehugo 4 года назад

braeden murray don’t england is muddy and bad

@benasquith26 4 года назад

@@charliehugo we have some great trails when dry, but yeah the mud is terrible at this time of year

@mikee8244 4 года назад

@@braedenmurray3598 maybe visit another day, we have plenty of cool trails in the UK but i think Vancouver has us beat hands down for proximity to actual mountains .

@calebtorrisi6281 4 года назад

The quality of this video was amazing, I'm sure some of those shots would have taken lots of time and energy. Keep it up guys, it's AWESOME 😂👍

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

Caleb Torrisi so good🤙

@nerdexproject 4 года назад

Major props for the footage, drone shots and editing!! Loved every second!!😍😍

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

nerdexproject really good wasn’t it!!

@jackporridge 4 года назад

Got to the end of the video and realised I hadn't listened to a word you said because the images were too beautiful 😂

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

jackporridge 😂😂 the video was so good,I’ll tell you that,as well as the images

@shb8124 4 года назад

Totally agree that an enjoyable watch.

@costaslyras1980 3 года назад

they didnt really say much...

@vtecmossy 4 года назад

I was waiting for Blake to walk out with a bag of pot 😂 🤣

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

JDM n Euro Mossy 😂

@whenhen 4 года назад

If only they had shot this in Canada or much of the US...

@billzhangzy 4 года назад

@camefornication 3 года назад

I haven't seen many GMBN videos yet, just some of them, 20-30 no more, but from cinematography point of view, this one is the best one at the moment! Thanks, it's pleasure to watch!

@mick35w 4 года назад

These 2 together are brilliant! 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

@Mark-pu9nj 4 года назад

Then talking about two and four pot brakes and I’m still out here with v brakes

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

Mark legend,respect for you dude!!

@DaMage80 4 года назад

So it's a zero pot right? :D thumbs up, still have some Vees

@SonjaTheDork 4 года назад

I've only got standard cantilevers lol

@DaMage80 4 года назад

@@SonjaTheDork 2 pairs of br-cx70s r here as well ;)

@SonjaTheDork 4 года назад

DMGmedia || CX50s here, thinking of getting a second set of them for my next project!

@oldshreddies2080 4 года назад

Beautifully filmed. And, I know everyone wants to come to BC, but that English countryside looks absolutely amazing. Oh, and thanks for the info about brakes on the side!

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

That editing was on point,felt like a professional ad on tv or something,well done 🤙

@kunifitz-gerald859 4 года назад

The cinematography on this video is fantastic. Give somebody a medal for that sweet sweet drone footage!!

@mathew2801 4 года назад

OMG the quality and production is excellent!!!!

@m.muzinski7842 4 года назад

I need to say that this video may be the most beautiful so far from GMBN!! Lovely b-rolls and aerials! Well done camera crew and editor!

@Sulentar 4 года назад

omg the footage, its incredible, Blake is the best

@keltonelias5195 4 года назад

Marko Džoić don’t forget about Neil

@Sulentar 4 года назад

@@keltonelias5195 Neil is too serious, at lest in my opinion

@keltonelias5195 4 года назад

@@Sulentar Without the seriousness we wouldn't learn anything. I see what you mean though.

@johnj2803 4 года назад

The edit on this video is epic! Whoever he is, it's much appreciated!

@gmbn 4 года назад

We made this video John! 😀

@brendavane9148 4 года назад

Simply the best GMBN video, great scenery, epic riding location, technical skills and a story that teaches and informs. Do not even mind the add for Shimano, they engineer good equipment so no sin there. Congratulations to everyone involved.

@gmbn 4 года назад

Thanks Brenda, we really enjoyed making this video and really appreciate the amazing response from everyone! 🙌

@ohyeahyeah6881 4 года назад

Saw Blake yesterday in my home town- Perth Western Australia filming at linga longa bike park... rad!!

@00x0midnight0x00 4 года назад

great vid. nice visuals and fitting music choices. beautiful camera work. 🤟

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

00x0midnight0x00 really good

@natskis 4 года назад

What a video. The cinematography was amazing. Great knowledge as well. How fricking long did it take you to set up all of those shots? Amazing work!

@migatron1 4 года назад

Cinematography levels were off the ChaRt !!! Props to the crew !!!

@GThiele64 4 года назад

gawd damn, give this cameraman and editor a super raise! Stunning cinematography

@marcosmata4625 4 года назад

This is one of the best vids to date. The music always good and content is awesome as always but the effects were amazing love the calipers in the background as Blake and Niel were riding. Even the map showing the layout of the ride with the climbing and decents was great. Great job gmbn!

@m.muzinski7842 4 года назад

Marcos Mata yeah.. b-rolls made a day!

@joeocarroll1561 4 года назад

The production quality of this video is AMAZING props to everyone involved💪🏽

@andreasbjorkroth1337 4 года назад

Best production i've seen from you. Keep it up!!

@mc2371 4 года назад

I like the new camera quality!!!

@JonoParker_ 4 года назад

DileX SLO I think it was done by Shimano

@BalintSofalvi 4 года назад

photography, drone work and editing simply amazing! Awesome content as usual 😎😎😎

@DaMage80 4 года назад

Beautiful photography, too. Congrats to the cameramen! Overwhelming.

@charlesb7831 4 года назад

I know for myself I have some issues because of my nerve damage in my spine and modulation can be a bit tricky for me. So soon after I had installed Shimano XT trail 2013 two piston set up on my XC hard tail 29er, and certain situations I needed just a little bit more power, I swapped my 160mm rotors for 180mm and is absolutely perfect for me. Alot of people who tried my bike say the brakes are way too strong, but they work perfect for me and actually find I don't need to be holding them as long as other people do in the same sections. So for me , 2 piston with bigger rotors worked perfect instead of dumping my new 2 piston for 4 piston. Now this all happened back in 2013/ 2014 and it's worked all these years, tried and true for me. As much as I want a newer set of 4 piston, I can't justify the cost when mine work so well. Great video, cheers!

@gman6059 4 года назад

Absolutely epic! Beautiful trail, amazing shots.

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

Gary Altman yeah,the filming was so good

@stavrosspiridopoulos4608 4 года назад

Probably the most beautiful video you have ever made. Perfect 👌

@MagnusThornberg 4 года назад

Whoooo, amazing video photographer you got. This video feels much more professional then all your previous. Amazing drone views and follow cams.

@Ron_Boy 4 года назад

Great video. Lots of scenic cinematography and less chatter. Please give us more like this one.

@cornishcactus 4 года назад

Shropshire's one of my fave places in the country, esp the Church Stretton area; so different from Cornwall. Lovely camera work and multirotor flying.

@aleksanderr7646 4 года назад

Those trails are so beautiful that I can ride there even with cantilevers.

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

Aleksander R 😂

@maikszczerbuk613 4 года назад

The main difference between pot brakes is that 4 pot brakes (if you can transfer the braking power) have a bigger "pot area". This is the main difference, if you would have a big two piston brake your braking power would be as strong as a four piston brake only a bit chunkier looking (that's why they use 2 pistons in the most cars) But I agree that enduro and Downhill benefit from four pots, two pots are for xc and trail riding, for hard trailriding and allmountain why not using a four Pot in the front two in the rear.

@davidgreensmith4217 4 года назад

Outstanding video, great drone footage and what a ride! More of this please gmbn.

@guillaumemilette3869 4 года назад

Really like the more cinematic looks of this edit ;) Keep up the good work guys!! :D

@MiserereMei 4 года назад

Came for the brakes, stayed for the music and cinematography. Excellent job on this video, GMBN!

@DSPotapov 4 года назад

the best format of “ad”, that i’ve ever seen ^_^ great!

@watsonthedog264 4 года назад

I’m always so jealous of you guys riding in these amazing scenic vistas. We don’t have anything like this where I live and yet it’s all in your backyard

@lawrencemuscat2263 4 года назад

Just want to say those aerial shots were great. All the camera and editing was great actually.

@integralhighspeedusb 4 года назад

Gorgeous video. Stunning visuals, dramatic music, funny script. Well done.

@marvinjordan9987 4 года назад

Blake Sampson has one of the best greetings, by starting with 'Hey you beautiful people'. Neil you are also great. Top gun riders. Thank you.

@JJMilk 4 года назад

Epic video!! Looking to upgrade my brakes, and this, was a perfect video to highlight the differences between the two options. Amazing footage, beautiful scenery. Top notch!!

@colinthompson5881 4 года назад

You guys are nailing the production and filming, really superb 👍

@richarde1355 4 года назад

Amazing countryside! Love GMBN and love these two guys; I feel privileged to watch these videos.

@urbanphotographer 4 года назад

Your filming and editing has become really good! Such a great clip

@danielgreen4213 4 года назад

For me 4pot on the front 2 pot on the back is the perfect combo. And amazing editing and footage top work to the whole crew.

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

daniel green that’s a nice combo🤙

@danielgreen4213 4 года назад

Certainly is I currently have xt 8020 4 pot on the front with 203mm ice tech pads and disc and a m8000 2 pot xt on the rear with 180mm disc but use organic pads in the rear I find this the best combo for my riding style a bit random I no but I just like the feel of it I can control the rear end under heavy breaking much better.

@Pienimusta 4 года назад

Going from 2 pot 180mm to 4 pot 180mm or going from 2 pot 180mm to 2 pot 203mm. How much difference would either make in both braking power, but also feel? Does other give better, more linear braking feel?

@th_js 4 года назад

2 pot 180mm to 4 pot with 203mm would be the best option.

@Kcducttaper1 2 года назад

I kinda figure the biggest thing about 4 pot is cooling. Most any decent 2 pot will have more than plenty of power to lock up the rear or chuck you OTB with one finger.

@jlblinkcr 4 года назад

What a coincidence and I'd just bought a new Norco Fluid yesterday that comes with 4 pot Shimano brakes, can't wait to test them out!!! Thanks again GMBN

@nosreuter 4 года назад

GMBN, this EDIT was through the roof 👊😲👌 ! ! ! ⚡🎉🍸💥📢🙌🤓🍾🔥

@maxtorque2277 4 года назад

I run 4 pots at both ends, but with 203's up front and 180mm dia discs at the back. The real jedi move though is to run with asymmetric pads ie to run with one sintered high performance pad in one side of the caliper, and one soft organic pad in the other side! The soft one works when it's cold and wet and you're XCing, and the hard one when it's hot and you're DHing! Gives a massive wide operating window, and tends not to squeal (because the natural frequency of the pads is different) Swap 'em side to side to even up the wear on the discs.

@giovannisolinas4334 3 года назад

I have a question: what do you think about using a 4-piston brakes on front and a 2-piston on the back? On motorcycles usually the front brake is much more powerful. Why we are not doing the same with MTB?

@jacobs_e-mtb 4 года назад

Production level gone Way up! High five @gmbn!!! And the New Cinema aspect rockes. Maybe 5 min too long for me ;)

@ssmediauk 4 года назад

Donny you have captured Shropshire in all its glory, amazing edit, kinda makes me feel even more smug for living here!!

@kevinbowe 4 года назад

Another wonderfully 'shot' video, with an excellent mix of perspectives and even slow-motion. The sound track was thoughtful and well edited with a sense of tempo that matched the visual perfectly. Thank you GMBN for investing the time and expense to produce some of the finest cycling videos available today. Please thank the whole team for me. Well done!

@theboypandalad 4 года назад

Making my local trails look as epic as I think they are. Good job everyone involved 👍👌

@billzhangzy 4 года назад

Hello from Luxembourg! Stunning video! One of the most cinematic bike video I have ever seen...love you guys, my guide and inspiration into mountain biking!

@andrewcox4304 4 года назад

Glad you added the comment at the end about rotor size too. My Stumpy came with dual pot 200mm and that seems to work very well.

@v88dicky32 4 года назад

Beautiful part of the country. Great riding lads 👍🏻

@Farlig69 4 года назад

6:50 Number of pots is _all_ about the power. If 2 pistons provide sufficient power, then they are powerful enough. Number of pistons has fuck all to do with fade. That's about pads overheating i.e. wrong pad material / too small rotors / insufficient cooling etc etc... ETA - reason for more pots is larger / longer pads for larger & narrower discs - getting sufficient hydraulic load spread on a narrower / longer pad = more pistons required (my comments are from MC applications where MTB is playing catch up so this may still be about hype etc in an MTB setup)

@CharlieH_design 4 года назад

You lifted the video cinematography to new level with this video. Great Job!

@JuanandKharlMtb 4 года назад

Im loving this kind of video. Very cool!

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

Same

@myfrequencies1912 4 года назад

Switching to Hydraulics (2 piston Sram Level TL) from cables was an absolute quantum leap. Going up to 4 piston Sram Guide R was a noticeable step in power & much more modulation. Worth the investment & stops my fully laden bikepacker very well! Coming from a motorcycle background where three pot monster calipers were the norm, I am blown away by the lightness & feel of 2 pot MTB hydros & it's pocket change by comparison! Oh yeah, & surely you need to do a "how we capture & edit this kind of footage" type of video? Beautifully done!

@ArturPiel 4 года назад

Was this video made for your video production crew to shine? Because they damn well have! Beautiful stuff!

@captain_barnacles 4 года назад

Nice editing. I got rid of some terrible avid carbon things that came with my bike for some Hope tech 3 E4's. Best upgrade ever. 4 pot braking but hardly any weight gain. and these things have lasted for something like 10 years. I still run a set of Hope mini monos on my hard tail - 2004 I think they're from. Not much Shimano kit last that long!

@foodmore 4 года назад

I just bought my very first mtb. A specialized Carbon stumpjumper 27.5. I have never used sram or Shimano brakes and in fact I’ve taken off the sram brakes on my stumpy. I transferred my Magura 4 pot brakes instead from my escooter which I have since disposed. In Singapore, a lot of us use(or used to) high performance escooters and Magura is a popular choice.

@mikieson 4 года назад

I'll say what other commenters are saying.. Neil and Blake together is always great and the video production is nice. Thanks GMBN

@NotTheLarryDavid 4 года назад

You guys are absolutely killing it with the gorgeous footage!!

@Franksey180 4 года назад

Agree with all the comments on the quality of the video/filming, this was not a 5 minute cell phone/go pro effort. Loads of different views/shots/distances, epic effort and result.

@mikebel74 4 года назад

Epic cinematography. Well done! Some of the best mountain bike footage I’ve seen.

@melwalshmtb9121 4 года назад

I use 2 pot Shimano Deore and SLX brakes on a hardtail on proper natural DH trails. They are called Curragh Woods if you want to check them out,they are in County Cork Ireland

@Mmathieus 4 года назад

So far the best bike edit i have ever seen

@gmbn 4 года назад

🙌

@DiogoChaves 4 года назад

Best visuals and edit ever put out by #gmbn. The brake discussion was a mere distraction. More epicness, this was a joy!

@PiiplKoporec 4 года назад

that quality of yours videos are incredible

@randomgamerwithpotatoaim8611 4 года назад

So far the best videography....love it guyss...🤗🤗

@pinoylowbudgetproductions7290 4 года назад

The camera work, drone shots, colour grading, editing are amazing! I wish you guys can make more of these contents. And the Blake's comic behavior and Neil's serious demeanor is just the perfect combo! I wonder if you can make a cinematic video riding walmart bikes too! Or a walmart frame with top spec accessories so you can still get some sponsorship

@leevivash9174 4 года назад

Great film and brilliant videography. Epic !!

@scottpink2013 4 года назад

Great footage and video. Love it so much. Great riding and beautiful scenery! Can't get enough!

@olivierhacking 4 года назад

Sweet video boyz! To be fair, 2-pot 203mm is stronger than 4-pot 180mm. I weight 85kg (187lbs) and had absolutely no issues in Whistler bike park from Garbanzo to village using my XT 2-pot brakes. The only thing is a slight change in bite point after heating up, not sure if 4-pot brakes have the same behavior...

@alexkarliychuk504 4 года назад

One of the best GMBN videos! Shots and editing on the top! =)

@shb8124 4 года назад

I usually always enjoy your stuff anyway but that was a pleasure to watch, beautifully shot you should do more like this. Loved the extended riding segments and panoramic views 👍

@DVKajak 4 года назад

Super entertaining video! Thanks GMBN!!

@davidsuzukiispolpot 4 года назад

How about comparing the impact of a larger rotor vs. on 2 pot brakes vs 4 pot on the 180mm rotors? Larger brake rotor also weighs more than smaller and can dissipate more heat while requiring less lever force.

@vicwiseman6038 4 года назад

I have 2 pistons 180 front and 160 rear. I have definitely experienced rear brake fade while riding in Northern CA. Since my pads are nearly gone, my bro gifted me a set of beautiful SLX 4 piston brakes with icetec freeza rotors. The rear will be upgraded to a 180mm rotor since I do ride a few long descents where braking is a bit more 50/50 vs 70/30.

@lupakd 4 года назад

This one was one of your better ones. To me the atmosphere really came through and the scenery with the quality of the shots was amazing.

@Ennimax 4 года назад

What a great video! Loved the drone shots and the music.

@rmoore4yris Год назад

I have 2pot slx with 203mm rotors...does the job just fine. Awesome video!!

@martinl.4696 4 года назад

what was this video about again? Then again, its so beautiful it doesn't even matter. You should make a GMBN film channel just for b-role stuff

@paytonmccormick6530 4 года назад

Exquisite videography! Lots to learn from your friends behind the lens! Keep it up everyone!

@Happy_Shopper 4 года назад

Really inspiring to see gmbn riding my local trails

@ward36 7 месяцев назад

Beautifully shot video however how can you compare 4 piston vs 2 piston brakes when you're using to very different mountain bikes with different rider weights as well? Not an accurate test IMHO.