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Two Routers With The Same SSID's? (WIFI Network ID's) When You Can & When It's Not A Great Idea. 

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In this video I explain when you can use the same SSID's in a WIFI environment and when it's really not a good idea.
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@claric81
@claric81 4 года назад
if you use same SSID for 2 router simply check your device signal to find out whether you near or far from both router.. if the signal become weak simply turn off the wifi and turn it on again and BOOMM..!!! it will connect to a strongest router signal.
@fikretcolak6507
@fikretcolak6507 5 лет назад
Thank you very much, it is very well planned and documented video. I have received all the answers that I was looking for. I have watched bunch of other videos showing all the shortcuts but doesn’t mention the distinction of two different ssid’s and the purpose. Especially, don’t even mention about clients do not switch over to highest signal strength. Thank you again, subscribed. All the best from İzmir, Turkey.
@NoWayJoseNJ
@NoWayJoseNJ 5 лет назад
Richard I finally found a thorough channel. Thank you. Subscribed.
@CaptainBee100
@CaptainBee100 4 года назад
Just this morning I set up a Wi-Fi extender on the top floor of my house to provide coverage into my back garden. This uses a Powerline adapter to provide backhaul to the router on the ground floor. It seems to work well except for exactly the problems you describe. They both have the same SSID so I don't know which one I'm connected to. So I could be down the garden still connected to the weaker signal from the router, when ideally I should be connected to the new Wi-Fi extender. A quick Google search turned up your very informative video and so I am now changing the SSID of the repeater so I know exactly what's going on! I've subscribed to your channel so I can learn some more. Thanks! 😀
@deltoncbaker
@deltoncbaker 3 года назад
I watched your video about eight times before I got it right and I truly thank you for your video. In your video you taped over the Internet Port "in" on the secondary Router. I have found that instead of taping over the port I plugged a "Crossover Adaptor" and have had no problems with using it.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 3 года назад
You're most welcome. I'm glad to know I could help you. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@sushantshidore5713
@sushantshidore5713 Год назад
There couldn't be explanation any simpler than this. Thanks, Richard!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa Год назад
You're most welcome. I do my best to keep it simple but it doesn't hurt that you're smart too! Thank you so much for commenting, watching and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@pm71241
@pm71241 Год назад
What's described is basically what everyone would expect and could extrapolate themselves. What would be more interesting would be if it explained fast roaming and mesh WiFi.
@prestotechreviews8871
@prestotechreviews8871 5 лет назад
Hey, thanks for the very detailed video! I should mention, if you want the perfect scenario, you should have a little bit of overlap. For example, probably no more than 10-15 percent. That way, when you walk, and your device loses signal, it will automatically connect to the stronger ones. However, this may not work depending on your application. Of course, you could always power down one or some of the access points to diminish some of that crossover, but then you lose coverage other places.
@amr2fxg
@amr2fxg 3 года назад
Just perfect!! The first to explain it all.. Valueable information!! Thanks a lot!
@paulytone
@paulytone 5 лет назад
Please make a video of how to get our laptops/phones to always use the strongest signal from our 2 or 3 routers!
@talalrafeea3023
@talalrafeea3023 4 года назад
Thats really great explanation. Thank you so much!
@lobo851
@lobo851 4 года назад
Your explanation of how two routers work together is excellent. You have great ability to distill complex issues into easily understandable concepts. Thanks for helping me maximize my home network.
@MrFreekyJ
@MrFreekyJ 5 лет назад
Here I was thinking perhaps in the second scenario, having 2 different SSID's, the gadet (phone,tablet) would be able to differentiate and choose the stronger signal router. Even so, although not ideal, its not too much trouble to reconnect manually to the stronger zone when you have different SSID's in place. In regards to both scenarios, I think its best having different SSID's for each router in most cases as in general its uncommon to have an absolute dead zone in between 2 or 3 routers and in scenario 1 (the white area) unless your house is unusally long. Great video Richard, as always.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
Yes the overlap is the usual situation which is why I don't usually recommend using the same SSID by default. I made this video to elaborate on why I default to the "it's not a good idea" answer every time I am asked but also to show where it will work well (and why) and were it will work (badly) and why. I am considering a WIFI optimization video in the future as well. The variables are crazy so I have to consider a WIFI optimization video for a single router environments and another video for multiple router environments. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@pabloalfaro7609
@pabloalfaro7609 3 года назад
Great video, very well explained! Thanks for putting this up!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 3 года назад
You're most welcome. I'm glad and very happy to know that I could help you. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@jomada8284
@jomada8284 5 лет назад
Thank you for the information sir. So basically we need "deadzone" to connect to the other router. When both router meet in the same area, my device will still connect to the first router that i connect. This is my testing: 1. I connect to my router1. Then i move closer to router2, but in the same time i still get the signal of router1. I try to turn off then turn my wifi on again. And boom, i still connect to router1, even my router2 signal is stronger. Its effect also with the other simulation. I connect to router2>move to near router1>turn off then on my wifi>i still connect to router 2. Thats the poin of deadzone. And thank you again for the explanation sir!
@sebastiana2871
@sebastiana2871 4 года назад
Then, two different SSID, always is better.
@fear_death7594
@fear_death7594 Год назад
Great video! Demonstrated really well and easy to understand thanks Richard
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa Год назад
You're most welcome. Comments like this make my DAY! 😁️ I'm glad to know I could help you and that you got value from my work here. I made this video to help people just like you. Thank you for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. Subscribe, Click The Bell and stay tuned! All the best.👍😀
@JasonHayesParkingGuy
@JasonHayesParkingGuy 4 года назад
Great info, you definitely answered my questions
@enriquegaray1
@enriquegaray1 2 года назад
Great explanation of the way WiFi coverage works when using various routers. Thanks.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
You're most welcome. I'm glad and very happy to know that I could help you. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@chamor0401
@chamor0401 4 года назад
Richard great video very helpful. Subscribed!
@edbouhl3100
@edbouhl3100 2 года назад
So really we won’t see seamless transition to the strongest signal until the Wi-Fi rules in the clients change. Thanks, this saved me from wasting any more time wondering if the different ssid on my access points were preventing a smoother handoff!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
Correct. Mesh systems "claim" to have fixed this problem but I hear complaints about them too. You're most welcome. I'm glad and very happy to know that I could help you. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@renaldas72
@renaldas72 4 года назад
Great video, thank you very much! I got one question: can I connect two Wi-Fi Range Extenders (TL-WA855RE) to my Router with different SSID's? Thank you
@basel20007
@basel20007 4 года назад
Hi Mr. Richard Your explanation was amazing I really like it and I like all your vids on this channel god bless you keep it up. Basil from Palestine ✌
@SoCal71RS
@SoCal71RS 4 года назад
Very helpful, thanks!
@grahamh7041
@grahamh7041 4 года назад
thanks: a superb and very helpful presentation
@rayeason5058
@rayeason5058 4 года назад
Thanks. You answered my question.
@JoeHawk77
@JoeHawk77 5 лет назад
Richard, thank you for your vids. They have helped me get pretty far. Maybe you can help with the last of my dilemma? My goals: 1. wifi coverage throughout larger home/multiple floors. 2. Connecting wifi smart items to a single network. Google home, Google mini, 8 switches, 3 chromecasts, doorbell camera, three cell phones with wifi calling and google home app. etc. 3. Setting wifi printer with fixed ip address 192.168.1.52 outside DHCP range in order to reduce loss of connectivity between resets etc. Also reserved this ip address specifically for the printer. 4. Reserve within the DHCP range ip addresses for each cell phone in order to reduce loss of phone connection over wifi. With your help, I have already: On router (main router with cable modem attached) reduced DHCP range allowing space for non-dhcp ip addresses. Range 192.168.1.3-49 Main router ip 192.168.1.1 wifi network ssid "jimbob", channel set to 1 On 2nd router, set to Access Point (AP) Turned off DHCP Set ip to 192.168.1.2 wifi network ssid "jimbob", channel set to 6 The first thing I notice is that my phone when connected to the main router connects with the desired reserved ip address 192.168.1.13, but if the phone connects to the AP, the ip on the phone changes to 192.168.10.103. Is there some setting I can change to force the phone's ip address to the reserved ip, even if the phone connects to the AP? Where does the AP come up with the 192.168.10.103? since DHCP is off in the AP? Bottom line is that I would like to connect all my home's smart items, including the controlling app device (phone) to a single network (as this is the only way to reliably control them). Some of the devices are outside the range of any one router/AP.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
You are most welcome. I have seen this issue before. I am guessing you have what I call a "rouge DHCP server" running in your network. Are you connecting to WIFI using your SSID and password on that phone? If so then there is another DHCP server running in your network and it is assigning the wrong IP to your phone.I had this happen when I plugged a VOIP phone box into my network and it had a DHCP server running in it. You can troubleshoot this quickly by shutting down one device at a time in your network and reconnecting with your phone every time you do so. When you shut down the device that is the "rouge DHCP server" your phone will no longer get that IP address and it probably won't connect either. I hope this helps. Tell me what you find when you do this please. I may make a video on this problem as it is a real pain and for most people a very hard problem to sort out. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@JoeHawk77
@JoeHawk77 5 лет назад
You hit it exactly right! I found my VOIP adapter was where the long cat5 cable was plugged into heading to the AP. Removed the cable from the adapter and plugged directly into my main router. Vwala the ip addresses fall into formation when connected to both the main router and the AP. Thanks for your help, I was pulling out what little hair I have left.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
"The rouge DHCP server" strikes again. This is one of those problems I solved on the phone when I was a network "specialist" for an IT support company. Glad my experience helped you sort it out. Thank you for watching, commenting and the valuable feedback. I appreciate it greatly. All the best. 👍😀
@brettbecker8087
@brettbecker8087 4 года назад
on the second router (AP) is the Hard connection in the WAN port or one of the LAN ports?
@captainjack3787
@captainjack3787 4 года назад
Great explanation, thanks..
@reimono
@reimono 3 года назад
explained wonderfully, thank you
@RayMak
@RayMak 4 года назад
Good explanation
@W3DRM
@W3DRM 5 лет назад
Richard - love your videos. Have you done any videos that describe and provide info about home/office mesh networks? Also, are there any downsides of connecting two or more routers, I.e., is throughput impacted when multiple routers are being used?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
I have not made a mesh network video as I do not currently own a mesh network. I may invest in that for a future video. If the WIFI is configured correctly there should be minimal impact when two or more routers are connected using a hard wire LAN connection. Understand that currently hardwired connections will faster and more reliable than WIFI. WIFI connected routers require the WIFI to be configured in an optimal way to avoid channel interference and give optimal service. I may do a video on this in the future. Mesh solutions like Google WIFI are now a viable solution for those who just want a plug and play solution here at Amazon: amzn.to/2I2hefD Or eBay: goo.gl/aGaoFH I have not tested one as of yet but it is another piece of the puzzle that I may invest in and shoot a video about. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@parker4551
@parker4551 3 года назад
Great explanation.
@davidpaez1217
@davidpaez1217 Год назад
Thank you very much from Venezuela Richard!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa Год назад
You are welcome! A big Howd'y from Texas. Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you so much again for commenting, watching and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. Subscribe, Click The Bell and stay tuned! All the best.👍😀
@knislappen
@knislappen 3 года назад
Thanks for the video
@rishabhbahoria1298
@rishabhbahoria1298 5 лет назад
thank you, sir! 😊
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
You are most welcome. Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@mohamedmokhtarchida5882
@mohamedmokhtarchida5882 3 года назад
thanks a lot for the information .
@hailongngo
@hailongngo Год назад
Thank you for your detailed video!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa Год назад
You're most welcome and thank you so much for commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@peerfalkenberg9989
@peerfalkenberg9989 4 года назад
I love your videos, they’re great. I have heard that clients are not selecting network using same methods. Eg iPhone also prioritize on preferred network or often used - is that correct? Looking forward to you review mesh network !!
@ProfessorQuality
@ProfessorQuality 4 года назад
Richard, you look in great shape. Congrats and thanks for the great content!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 4 года назад
You are most welcome. Thank you so much the very kind words, for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@doublemd
@doublemd 4 года назад
Your videos always pop up when i want to learn something new about my router, Liked and subbed I was wondering, Whats the difference between having two routers ( or 1 router with extender ) both with same ssid And a mesh network ? Are they both the same concept, or is there a benefit to having a mesh network like being able to connect to the strongest signal ?
@ulfarorarson3885
@ulfarorarson3885 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this explanation .. so i guess, that seamless wifi connection on the 9 floors company i work for , is basically ... you grab a point, and stick to it until it loses the connection... then instantly grab connection to the next one ... so there will ALLWAYS be that one small gap ? ..... im having issues in my 2 story house ... gunna give this a shot ..! thanx!
@bonesivegot1
@bonesivegot1 3 года назад
Thanks for the great video and explanation. If you were to use the same SSID on both and there was a large overlap due to property size, would you recommend restricting the wifi signal strength to create a blindspot and force a switch over?
@seamanjive
@seamanjive 4 года назад
Great vid...I'm struggling with repeaters across the house usinvvghe same ssid....
@mediocritycentral
@mediocritycentral 3 года назад
don't use repeaters..they cut your bandwidth.. use wired range extenders instead (you can use your old routers instead)
@lordcatpotato
@lordcatpotato 2 года назад
Thank You sir, very good explanation !
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
You're most welcome. I'm glad and very happy to know that I could help you. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@snakesnarroz
@snakesnarroz 5 лет назад
Great video. IMO, the best way to get wifi throughout your house (on every floor, in every corner) is with moca enabled devices. If one doesnt know what moca is, please google it. It uses your existing coax already wired in your house. Yes this wont help someone if no coax in the house, but most homes already have it. The reliability is rock solid, speeds are super fast, and dead spots are a thing of the past, as well as those extenders that just don't work. Yes you need to buy moca enabled equipment as well to make it happen, but hands down its the best in my opinion.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
I will look into this technology. Thank you for watching, commenting and the valuable feedback and support. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@a4anoooo1985
@a4anoooo1985 4 года назад
thank u for the information
@kastnova99
@kastnova99 5 лет назад
Richard, do you have any videos showing how to use/connect a second router as a wifi range extender? While doing so is the second router physically connected to the first vis ethernet or wireless connected to the first router?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
You can do it either way, physically connected or through WIFI though I always would recommend the hardwired solution as it is superior. My videos that show how to connect two routers either way (Cable or WIFI) essentially turn the joining routers into access points. Here are all those videos: goo.gl/VvKk5a Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@tomc8449
@tomc8449 4 года назад
Hi Thanks a lot for this great Tuts, Please I need some assistance, I am trying to setup a nano station M5 Ap with a TP-LINK router but i can't get the internet to be recognized by the system. Any Assistance? Thanaks
@simonbosch4300
@simonbosch4300 2 года назад
I do agree with your explanation and your advice to have different SSID for each router but for the sake of argument, it is not that critical for many who do not even bother too much to know what router they are connnected to so long as they are CONNECTED and it does not affect them of what they are doing unless they are downloading/uploading large file or playing high performance online game and they can notice the drop in the speed. This is the fact. In short, it is transparent to them if they can get what they want without noticing much of a hassle. I have in fact tried both and it works fine for me even with large overlapped of the two routers with the SAME SSID especially for handphone/cellphone where it will always looking for a stronger signal of the available Connectable SSIDs that it can be accessed (with the right password). Having said this, I do agree with you that it is advisable to have different SSID for each router for the reasons that you have mentioned.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
Thank you for watching, commenting, the valuable feedback and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. I am happy to know I could help. All the best.👍😀
@simohammy
@simohammy Год назад
This was really helpful, thank you. This is exactly the challenge I am facing! One question though - can you link two identical WAPs to create a mesh with the same SSID?
@elig1184
@elig1184 4 года назад
Hi Richard, can you please think about posting a video on how to set up VPN designated router plugged into ISP modem/router, yet providing VPN service with Internet access? I think this topic might be of great interest to many of us, and especially that we all rely on the internet with many transactions and streaming.
@wowfury11
@wowfury11 5 лет назад
hello richard i had an old modem and made it work as an access poiint but idk if i should really change the channel of the access point ( old router ) should i make it different than the main routers channel ? thanks :)
@chrispistocco
@chrispistocco 5 лет назад
Great explanation!!!!!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@chrispistocco
@chrispistocco 5 лет назад
@@richardlloydusa How about a video on using a second router to set up a separate network for say..IOT items or Camera's??????
@rockrocks009
@rockrocks009 2 года назад
Hi Richard. Thanks for the video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Is there any way to connect based on the strength? Like in Hotels or multi floor offices?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
It's possible, but that requires a mesh network to have it switch automatically. The WIFI standard does not have the ability to determine and switch to the strongest signal. Thank you for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@BenMitro
@BenMitro 5 лет назад
Richard, signal strength and therefore quality and speed of connection is not just related to distance, obstacles etc. it is also influenced by interference from other transmitting devices - I think the range of an AP will decrease with a second AP nearby - despite the fact they are likely to use different channels.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
WIFI and radio signals are very malleable. They are subject to constant change especially at the end of the range. They are likely to use different channels, I agree but there is nothing inside most routers to stop them from using the same channel. BTW most people don't know this but there is such a thing as too much signal strength too. I am contemplating doing a WIFI optimization video in the future. Weaving the variables involved and the technical details that are important into a video will be a challenge to say the least. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@mikeclark1326
@mikeclark1326 4 года назад
Great video. But you could actually see which router you are connected to. Just look at the signal strength
@DeUndefined1
@DeUndefined1 4 года назад
I have my dsl modem router going to my room on 1 side and I have a range extender on the other side. But I don't know if i have the same ssid because the ip address is still the same but now i can access the extenders ip settings anywhere around my house.
@farhankhatri4937
@farhankhatri4937 4 года назад
Hey Richard!! That was a lovely and very informative video!! Wish I had found your channel earlier!! I have a question tho. I have a router at my home and a wifi extender of tp link Tl-WA850RE and it has an ACCESS POINT operation mode in it. Now i was using it in its default mode i.e RANGE EXTENDER operation mode wirelessly and it was working fine. But it slowly kept getting worse and now gives slow speed. So I wanted to change it to AP operation mode. Now I took an 30 meter ethernet cable and plugged one end in the lan port of my router and plugged another end into the wifi extender and turned the extender's operation mode to ACCESS POINT mode. My question is WILL IT NOW WORK AS A WIFI EXTENDER OR AS A WIFI REPEATER? WILL THE BANDWIDTH BE AFFECTED IF I CONNECT TO THAT AP? WILL I GET SLOW INTERNET IF CONNECTED TO THAT AP?
@droidtv3392
@droidtv3392 5 лет назад
Thank you
@Chamorristaxd
@Chamorristaxd 4 года назад
does it change the subnetwork when you change the AP? does it keep the ip and so?
@thomasyackiel192
@thomasyackiel192 Год назад
Great explanation. After watching video, it is obvious there is no reason to have the SSIDs the same. With the newer mesh routers, using the same SSID is preferred.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa Год назад
Correct. Mesh routers work in tandem with each other and hand off the client to the next router efficiently but regular routers can not do that. Thank you so much for commenting and watching. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@PulchritudinousCognoscenti
@PulchritudinousCognoscenti Год назад
Thanks
@steviexup
@steviexup 2 года назад
Great video. Explains a lot in simple English. Excellent 👍🏼 I have a summerhouse/man cave at the bottom of my garden. The main router WiFi doesn’t reach down there so I have run a long Ethernet cable from the main router to the Sky Q Minibox in the SH. I now have Sky TV inside and internet access. I also have Sonos speakers that sometimes I like to link with the speakers in the house so am i right in saying that 2 routers with the SAME SSID is the way to go? Phones and tablets will stay connected when walking from the house to the SH and with all the speakers on the same SSID I can control them all from my phone/tablet. I’m thinking that if the SH speakers were connected to one SSID and the house speakers are connected to a different SSID I can’t control them all from one device at the same time. Your thoughts please? Steve
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
In this case the same SSID will not probably not be an issue as the two networks are so far separated. Try it and see if it works for you, you never know the two devices may be able to communicate with each other. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@abbasch302
@abbasch302 3 года назад
Hi. Thank you Richard. Your videos helped me a lot. Specially the one where you explained how to connect 3 routers. I have a question though. I've 500 meters area to cover in 1 direction. I connected 5 routers in daisy chain. I want to use same SSID. Workers will connect to any of router but if they go out of range they automatically connect to my other router without entering password. Is it possible?
@samfebu
@samfebu 5 лет назад
Hi Richard, your video always very helpful. Is it possible conneting 2 routers over Wi-Fi?, Without using ethernet cable
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
You are most welcome. Yes it is possible. I have videos showing how to do that here: goo.gl/ZmntvD Thank you for watching, commenting and the kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@thefleaflop
@thefleaflop 4 года назад
Hi Rich and thanks for the video,.. its exactly what I needed. In my case,... I have two TiVo units. Each is connected to a different router. If each router has a different SSID, the TiVo's cant seem to connect to share files. in my case, it would seem I need to have the same SSID on both routers to make the TiVo's believe they are on the same network to share files. Does this make sense, and would you agree with my assessment? Keep it up big guy!
@alroydirks4748
@alroydirks4748 3 года назад
Thank you. Can one connect a Hauwei B315 router to a Mikrotik router. The Mikrotik router is used for the internet. I want to use the Hauwei B315 as a WiFi extender. Thank you.
@skragamuffin
@skragamuffin 4 года назад
hi great video well explained one question keeping on the line of sparky and sparky3 if i had a nas drive and cctv cameras connected to sparky all via ethernet cable would i still be able to access these on sparky3
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 4 года назад
obviosuly if the NAS is hardwired its only going to connect to the router or AP its actually connected to since you are taking wifi out of the equation. Most NAS's only have 1 ethernet port not 2.
@Richarmed88
@Richarmed88 4 года назад
@@sjsphotog I am wondering the same thing, did you find a solution to this ? I have a 4tb hdd connected to a second router and can usually access it from devices connected via the to same router router but Ideally I would like to be able to access it from a pc connected via Ethernet to my primary modem/router
@jamieedwards7041
@jamieedwards7041 4 года назад
In the setup you're describing are the two routers both functioning as routers? Or is one of them functioning as a main router and one of them functioning as an access point?
@HaudMiBackPal
@HaudMiBackPal 5 лет назад
Thoroughly excellent piece of work, sir. Information I can use. Now using different sides. One small point ..... am guessing where there is no deadzone occurring between same-name skids, then reducing 100% transmission power at setup could create one. Awkward though.
@HaudMiBackPal
@HaudMiBackPal 5 лет назад
Sides.... ssids ...... but you knew that
@HaudMiBackPal
@HaudMiBackPal 5 лет назад
...also skids, FFS.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
Dead zones are great to have as it make transitioning between the two zones automatic, so if you can do it I would recommend you do. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@virginiamontes6974
@virginiamontes6974 4 года назад
Thanks that was helpful. My son was asking why I had 2 routers with different names and passwords. I’m not a tech person but I’m working from home now and my laptop was lagging a lot, I bought a deco tp link and set it up as best as I could. With different name and password. One question when you say the devices will connect to the closest router, is that an automatic connection? Or u still have to choose the most closest and plug in the password? Thanks!
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 4 года назад
They will connect to the first router that responds, that is not necessarily the closest or the fastest router but with a mesh system like the Deco it should all be automatic without issue. Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@Ramovis
@Ramovis 3 года назад
Does this also apply for mesh networks?
@allwyndcosta6575
@allwyndcosta6575 2 года назад
Hi Richard, excellent video. Explained in a very simple manner for easy understanding. In my home, my main router supplied by the service provider is a regular router. This router has been hardwire connected to 4 other routers ( repeaters) which are of the MESH type. I have right now a common SSID for all the routers. I have the following two problems: A) Signal break and reconnection when I move from one Router zone to the next. B) I cannot configure my Wifi Printer as it indicates multiple number of connection available with the same SSID. This is not supported by the printer. I presume issue B) will be resolved if I have separate SSIDs for all 5 Wifi units (1 regular and 4 Mesh type). Please confirm. As regards issue A, will I be able to avoid the signal breaks if I replace my carrier normal Wifi with a Mesh type Wifi. Please advice. Many thanks in advance.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
Mesh routers are supposed to handle this stuff for you automatically. Which type of mesh routers are you using? Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@shadwilliams5455
@shadwilliams5455 4 года назад
Does the connection mgr also let you see other available devices such as printers so that you can choose which to print to?
@josepablouribe2770
@josepablouribe2770 4 года назад
Richard. Thanks a lot for your videos, by far the best I've seen. I have one question: I am struggling to understand the difference to connect 2 routers via LAN-LAN connection and not LAN-WAN connection. I have applied exactly your most popular video on connection 2 routers via LAN-LAN with 2 different SSIDs, but have also found that there's also the possibility to do it with LAN-WAN connection. Is there a big difference to go with one option instead of the other one? Tks in advance!
@temp06j723-pmeighttq
@temp06j723-pmeighttq 7 месяцев назад
LAN-LAN is simplest & reliable with DHCP handled by Primary router. LAN-WAN allows for a different Subnetting with different/independent DHCP handling for restriction/isolation purposes. take note that LAN-WAN can also be it's BridgeModeAP where Primary Router 'controls' this Secondary router.
@iLLa_SkriLLa
@iLLa_SkriLLa 5 лет назад
Wish i wouldve seen this 1yr ago. I have the same setup as the last, 2 dif ssids. I had too much overlap. In the small apt. The better router picked up more devices but, its farther and lead to drops.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
There are many considerations and variables with WIFI. I may do a follow up video on channel optimization as well as there seems to be much confusion on that important aspect of the WIFI spectrum. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 4 года назад
@@richardlloydusa yes please do that other video on channel optimization. I use the Wifi Analyzer app/program to see channel strength
@davidbrick626
@davidbrick626 3 года назад
Great explanation. So if instead of two different routers, I have one router and one extender, there necessarily has to be an overlap -- because the extender has to be receiving the carrier from the router -- so therefore I should not use the same SSID in this scenario, yes?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
Yes, exactly. I would avoid it if they overlap. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@hoonycr500
@hoonycr500 5 лет назад
Hi Richard, thanks for posting this, very informative and i have done exactly as your video as i left my 2 routers as default SSID. i have a question although its not related to this topic directly. perhaps a future video topic maybe what's a good router to use that has the following functions - Parental controls (limit children's activity by both hours or content) - can see what sites are being visited at the router level (some kind of website address activity log) is a netgear nighthawk one to consider? apologies if this is covered on another of your video (which i will look for now)
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 5 лет назад
I don't use those features but most routers at this point have them as well as a logging feature on some. I will need to research this further. Please check the manufacturers website or call support for further information. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@hoonycr500
@hoonycr500 5 лет назад
@@richardlloydusa, many thanks for your reply much appreciated. i see your a MX Bike fan too (saw you video on KX250) i have a 1985 CR500RF i restored
@stevencastro2856
@stevencastro2856 2 года назад
Thank you, great video! But I have one question if you don’t mind. I live in a 3 story home that has pre wired Ethernet outlets on each level and my ISP router is on the ground level with a second router(nighthawk ac1900) that I have on the second floor and set as an AP. The AP router is direct connected to the Ethernet port and then I have my tv, gaming console etc. all hardwired to the AP router. My ISP router and AP currently do not have matching SSID. I’m only two days in but currently we connect to the AP and we have a strong Wi-Fi signal on every level of the house. I was going to change the SSID’s to match but after watching your video it seems like I may be better off leaving them with different names? Also should I have my second router set as an AP? would a bridge or having it run as it’s own network be better? I’m not very good at this so I apologize if I butchered the terminology.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
I usually go with, "If it's not broken don't fix it." You can experiment if you wish. I leave the routers on their default settings but again you can experiment to see which settings give you a better result. Different equipment and environments affect performance in weird ways. Thank you so much for commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@jamescullins2709
@jamescullins2709 4 года назад
A followup on my last comment. When the 3 routers are connected it is with CAT5 cables this would give each router full speed via the CAT5 back to the switch... is the correct?
@JenniferDeJonghe
@JenniferDeJonghe 4 года назад
Thank you for this! If you have two places further apart - like a house and then a cabin in two different towns - can I assume it is fine to use same SSID and password on routers very far apart? I assume so because you'd obviously have a big "zone of no connection"....
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 4 года назад
Great video. thanks. So do you recommend we turn on "Connect Automatically" button in our laptops to get the optimal scenario as you showed? I have 2 routers each with 2 connections (one for 2.4 GHz and one for 5 GHz connection). so in my scenario I have these 4 possible connection points (Note these are fictitious names): ROUTER24 = Office Router on 2.4 GHz Signal ROUTER5 = Office Router on 5 GHz Signal AP24 - Living Room Access Point on 2.4 GHz signal AP5 - Living Room Access Point on 5.0 GHz signal this way I can choose from any of the 4. usually 2.4 is fine for general internet needs and 5.0 is best for music and movie streaming and FAST up/download needs. If yo have them set to auto connect, will they? My house isnt that big (1400 sq ft) but wanted to have better wifi coverage in my kitchen as before I added the A/P the kitchen always had the worst signal as its the furthest point away from my office where I had the onlu rputer at the time. Now I have 2 points so it should be better.
@NO-END
@NO-END 4 года назад
I have same setup with Fios router and Fios extender. The extender clones 2.4 and 5G SSID automatically from router which is fine because I use different broadcast channels for all SSID to reduce interference so no need to have 4 SSID I only have 2. ROUTER24 = Living Room Router and Bedroom Extender ROUTER5G = Living Room Router and Bedroom Extender But the Orbi mesh router uses SON which I hate for two reasons. One because I always use 5G band and don't want to connect to 2.4 band unless someone has older 802.11b,g, or first draft of n device. Two because most times broadcast will be the same across all devices with SON. Having 4 SSID is better than SON IMO but there is a way to split the SSID on an Orbi. With changing broadcast channels on routers overlapping is not a problem unless both routers are way too close to one another.
@iampatel0289
@iampatel0289 4 года назад
use one as DHCP and rest as repeater/ap. this video is using old tech. i have lots of locations where coverage literary overlap with 50%+ signals. all new mobiles and tablets smart switch in network loop. they connect to 80% network from 50%. they don't need to disconnect/reconnect like video say in overlap part.
@heartache33
@heartache33 4 года назад
Hi I have a question. I have 1 tplink re350 range extender set up as an access point from my isp's fiber modem via straight connection. The access point is on the 3rd floor the main one is on the 2nd. Everytime I go up on the 3rd floor after my 2nd drops. It always says no internet connection or limited connectivity regardless of device type then connects after a few minutes. They have different SSID'S can you help me with this I'm anxious to know how to solve this. Reason for getting an access point is that my 3rd floor is a deadzone. Liked and subscribed
@COLDoCLINCHER37
@COLDoCLINCHER37 2 года назад
Awesome video really helpful. But I'm wanting to build a home application with 5 routers, but each routet is limited to 10 maximum available connections and after a 10th user connects, the client devices begin connecting to the other routers next in line. So I don't necessarily need automatic switching, just want to know if this Is possible to have the client devices connect and choose the router with lowest number of connections, within one given SSID.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
I'm not sure why you're limited to 10 connections per router unless you're DHCP only is assigning 50 IP addresses. It can dole 250+ IP addresses. As far as SSID's and connection priority that is managed by the actual WIFI card in your computer and generally it connects to the first device that responds and that is not necessarily the same device every time, or the closest or the least busy unfortunately. That is the nature of legacy WIFI. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@dark30welderwelding11
@dark30welderwelding11 3 года назад
Great basic video ! Poor man’s mesh :) Keep in mind this only applies consumer grade systems with no WiFi controller. Commercial systems with multiple AP’s and an actual WiFi controller will watch the client signal strength and actually move the client over to the next AP automatically.
@Argiedan
@Argiedan 5 лет назад
Hi, why is there a ''2'' next to the name of my wifi network? My mobile connects to my wifi but pc to, appearently same network except for that variation on the name
@joewest1972
@joewest1972 2 года назад
Suppose I'm just a little bit too slow I'm trying to understand but with the two different ssids wouldn't I have to manually log on to Sparky three if I crossed into that zone and vice versa everything else that I've been looking at about hooking up two routers since I have to log on this has confused me perhaps you can help explain that
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
There's two ways it can happen. If you don't have over lapping WIFI zones, when you step out of one zone and into the other WIFI zone, your WIFI device will disconnect from the previous zone and connect to the next available zone that's available (If you have connected to it before regardless of it's SSID name) This is the best situation but rarely ever happens. There's always some over lap if not a great amount of overlap. WIFI devices are not really programmed to roam. They're programmed to hold on to a connection as long as possible and only disconnect if they can no longer communicate reliably. The assumption being there is only one reliable connection available. So when you're in a WIFI zone with overlap from the last zone your WIFI client connected to, it wants to stay connected to the original WIFI connection regardless of what the available options are locally. So if you name the SSID for both zones the same you NEVER know which one the WIFI client will connect to and is connected to unless you look at the connection and see that the signal is really weak and then you have to manually switch it anyway. So by using different SSID's on your routers like, back porch, garage or upstairs for instance, you always know which one it's connected and you can easily chose the connection you want if it does not connect to it automatically. Here's another bonus about different SSID's you don't have to give the YouTubing, Streaming, High bandwidth hogs in your house (don't know who these people would be 😁️? ) access to WIFI zones you don't want them using simply by not giving them the WIFI password to those routers! Another bonus is that they will wonder beyond the range of the available WIFI Zone. LOL Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@peterbrown8889
@peterbrown8889 4 года назад
Do u have to sign in all your devices phone any wireless cams etc into the 2nd modem with the now diff name (u advised against same ssid) , even though password same , ive tried this and i get the impression you do , can u tell or clear that situation up please !! i didnt want to have to put all passwords into the 2nd modem just wanted it to carry on signal through into another area
@hdmalith82
@hdmalith82 3 года назад
I was trying to do ip : mac binding in a similar 2 router setup. (different ssids) Is it possible? I can bind in the router. But access point assigns a different ip.
@ricomeierringrose2794
@ricomeierringrose2794 5 лет назад
What do you do if you to routers because of bad WiFi coverage. But you also need them to have the same ssid. So you don’t need to switch your connection manually to stream to chrome cast?
@vijaykurup2002
@vijaykurup2002 2 года назад
Thanks for visual explanation on this Topic... However how does it matter if I have 2 different SSID on both example? as far as concern all my wireless clients has those SSID and Password saved. The movement going from dead zone to another router in the first example still handshake to another SSID (which makes more comfortable to know that my client has now connected another router) ans same for the 2nd example where I can manually choose either of better signal SSID/router. Hope it make sense
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
You're most welcome. If it works for you that's great! Go with it. I'm glad and very happy to know that I could help you. Thank you so much for watching, commenting and the very kind words. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@tammywilson5985
@tammywilson5985 4 года назад
Is it possible to have 2 wifi extenders in one house? We have one in the dining room, the router in a bedroom. We stream off Roku in the other bedroom and constantly lose signal or buffers. Was thinking I could put a wifi extender in our bedroom, would this work?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 4 года назад
Yes you can have two WIFI extenders in the same location. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@vinnyguido9525
@vinnyguido9525 4 года назад
If I change the ssid as suggested, can I still keep the password the same?
@barrysullivan1804
@barrysullivan1804 5 лет назад
keep same ssid's and just use Netgear WiFi analytics..it will show both WiFi signals and you can figure out which your connects too. Just turn off/on WiFi to connect to the nearest
@arthur_soares
@arthur_soares 2 года назад
Hi Richard! I am Brazilian! I am using a Huawei Ax3 Pro as the main router and a TP-LINK Archer C6 in access point mode connected to the AX3 via a network cable. I only enable the 5ghz network on the two routers, and they have different channels, AX3 (147) and C6 (48), they are all at 40mhz and I don't notice interference. They have the same SSID and password. Lately my TP link makes wifi disappear and come back. Could you help me understand what's going on? Does the problem happen because the brands are different?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
I would check for a firmware update on the C6. If it's available update the firmware and that will probably make it more stable. If there is no update do a factory reset and configure the router again. It sometimes makes a difference. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@notsoshortbus1651
@notsoshortbus1651 5 лет назад
Hi richard Im new to to this I watched and did the video you made,Connect Two Routers On One Home Network Using A Lan Cable to use with my ring cameras but I need them to be on the same ssid I think so I can see them on my phone app. with the ones that are connected in my house I put the other router in my barn witch is 200 feet behind my house will this video fix this problem thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give.I really appreciate your videos ps. a video on this would be great and would probably help a lot of people. thanks again
@peterbrown8889
@peterbrown8889 4 года назад
can u confirm the password set up plz in regards to the 2nd ssid if do it that way , you dont explain about that part if have 2 on the 1 ssid (does the password for your devices carry staright over) ? , or if have two router on separate ssids how does the password managment work , thx again
@markchandler001
@markchandler001 2 года назад
What about if I have two routers that are the same model provided by the same internet company. The only difference is the passwords. Both will work singularly without any configuration just as long as I'm using the correct password for each router. Does that simplify things if I want to use one to extend the WIFI signal strength?
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
If it works for you then go for it. Thank you for watching and commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@manojpattanaik4754
@manojpattanaik4754 4 года назад
I prefer having same SSID in signal overlap case, so that whenever I found my device is getting weak signal, I will just switch off and on the WIFI and it will choose the closest access point. In case of different SSID, I need to choose the specific SSID which need more steps then just switching off and on the WIFI.
@pjasonq
@pjasonq 2 года назад
What would you recommend if I want to handle a google voice WiFi call between two routers or access points without the call dropping during the handoff? For example I have a router in my office and a router in my garage and I'll be on a call in the office and I need to go out to my garage. The call quality always degrades and then drops before connecting to the garage WiFi.
@richardlloydusa
@richardlloydusa 2 года назад
You may need a mesh network solution to handle this situation. Even if you used the same SSID and password and overlapped the zones. There would still have to be a drop of one router to the next router. Google has a reliable mesh solution but do your research and see what you come up with. Thank you so much for commenting. I appreciate it greatly. All the best.👍😀
@pjasonq
@pjasonq 2 года назад
@@richardlloydusa I was also considering the Ubiquiti access points. I've been hearing a lot of good things about them and it'll also be a good learning experience to set one up as I always have customers asking about good WiFi setups in their office.
@DeepikaAditya
@DeepikaAditya 4 года назад
Don't know if technology has changed since you made this video. My android phone seems to automatically shift wifi routers on same ssid when one gets weaker than other in the overlap zone edge when I turn on the select best network available option in the Wifi settings
@panaoutsios1990
@panaoutsios1990 4 года назад
I have 1 router as extender in my room and one repeater in the kitchen In my room is the same address as the modem but in the kitchen it change the address
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