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Two Shafts With the Same Weight & Flex | Ball Flight Testing 

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txg.ca - Testing two shafts from VA composites that are the same weight and flex, but differ greatly in bend profile. See how much feel, timing and ball flight difference can be made even with two shafts that are similar on paper!
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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@golfnaked
@golfnaked 5 лет назад
LOL. Hearing Matt say “Chillin like a villain” under his breath, made my day.
@jimmymac601
@jimmymac601 5 лет назад
Only golf channel where I don't skip the intro.
@boostmecoupeup
@boostmecoupeup 5 лет назад
TXG best golf channel online bar none. Top work lads
@sdennispga
@sdennispga 5 лет назад
Cant tell you how valuable the discussion around feel and profiles are for those of us who aren't near a premium fitter. Bravo gents, thanks for the great content!
@joerudnick32
@joerudnick32 5 лет назад
Only videos I actually watch on RU-vid... by far the best channel I’ve come across!!! Keep em coming boys!!
@frankhoxsey1177
@frankhoxsey1177 5 лет назад
Another great video! I learn so much every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks
@dabaumga
@dabaumga 5 лет назад
You guys just keep pumping out gems. This stuff is fascinating; I have said it before, but: GOLF COLLEGE. Thanks again fellas!
@Nighthawk63
@Nighthawk63 5 лет назад
Great video, I tried the vylan shaft in my recent fit. It was really good but I got better performance from the Fujikira ventus shaft with the F9. Thanks Greg
@coegj
@coegj 5 лет назад
I got the Vylyn headed my way for the Cobra f9 in my bag, been looking for an upgrade shaft to fit my swing now that I'm in the late 60's age wise. This was a fine review of golf tech, thanks guys.
@austinlauer1910
@austinlauer1910 5 лет назад
Definitely like the graphics 👍
@waynemayo8399
@waynemayo8399 5 лет назад
This would be a good test for someone who swings smooth around 100 - 105mph to show what difference could be. Great video
@ericl9781
@ericl9781 5 лет назад
12:51 “that ball flight, you could fall asleep to that...could put a baby to sleep” 😂😂
@crazysocer
@crazysocer 5 лет назад
This would have been a good video to film on gears, to see how the different shafts bend and load during the swing Great videos guys absolutely love watching your channel 👍⛳
@stevostevopick4003
@stevostevopick4003 5 лет назад
Matt you made swinging the Vylyn look so easy. That's gotta be worth some confidence credits off any driving hole out on a real golf course yes? Ian the fitting 🧙‍♂️strikes again! Outstanding video once again guys (chip and a putt for par or putting for 🐦 for Matt on all those 320 yard par 3 drives)
@georgebroom8517
@georgebroom8517 5 лет назад
Matt was definitely "Kapow!" with the Vylyn..liked the graphics....with Ian taking the Riddles out of club fitting.
@craiggardiner2938
@craiggardiner2938 5 лет назад
Great video love it
@whiskerrub3821
@whiskerrub3821 5 лет назад
I think what makes you love the bucket list fit at TXG comes with the added bonus of verbal wizardry “chalk and cheese” just doesn’t get any better. TXG definitely the cheese. 👍
@philr1924
@philr1924 5 лет назад
Ian, you described my swing exactly so I went right online and ordered the Vylyn. Will let you know how it works out. Keep up the great work!
@cgavin7501
@cgavin7501 4 года назад
How did it work out?
@gearbox1858
@gearbox1858 4 года назад
So??? Guessing not good 🤔
@joegarza1835
@joegarza1835 4 года назад
Phil R What were your results? I’m curious
@jockcocurtis9137
@jockcocurtis9137 5 лет назад
Like the graphics on the shafts
@michaelficarro2591
@michaelficarro2591 5 лет назад
Just watched the stock vs aftermarket shaft video from May15 2018, Matt's swing is COMPLETELY different now!!
@brettrobbins5182
@brettrobbins5182 5 лет назад
The VA Drago is a winner for me 💪
@coegj
@coegj 5 лет назад
Ian, Matt update on the VA Vylyn shaft I purchased after watching your review. I absolutely love the feel and stability, it just feels like it was made for me and what I want a shaft to feel like. I purchased the 55 Gram Stiff and have it in my Cobra f9 head, and it's just as great feeling with my Cobra Fly Z head on it, the ball flight seems higher and rolls out farther for me, and extra seven to ten yards. It's a great great feeling golf shaft , once again, good video on golf tech, thanks.
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 лет назад
Great to hear!!
@joelane2845
@joelane2845 5 лет назад
Hi guys!! Will you be doing a review of the new PXG 0211 irons? Curious about your thoughts on these new irons from PXG versus the P790, Apex 19, Hot Metal Pro.
@hobby684
@hobby684 4 месяца назад
I played an old shaft in tsi2 11 degree aldila rouge 95msi 60g S 2.8 torque and sold the club ,after many drivers and shafts i saw a vyln 55 four s in the tsi3 driver 8 degree tour head set at 9.5 degrree with it being 1/2 inch short when built. I tried it out and yip i got the whip back without flying mad left! Appreciate the video this video is bang on.🏌👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@martinritchie1706
@martinritchie1706 5 лет назад
Sounds like the vylin shaft would match up well with my Nippon 120 shafts and one to try in my woods as the profile seems similar to tour ad di. Soft in the handle firm in the tip
@espMMXX
@espMMXX 5 лет назад
You guys are awesome! I have 2 questions that been bothering me and I can't really find a satisfying answer to this Question 1: When should you change stiffness of a shaft? (like a certain swingspeed, handicap related, just the feeling?) Question 2: clubs with offset, how should one align a golfclub with offset? Keep up the good work!
@davidwilson1952
@davidwilson1952 5 лет назад
"he`s hitting it quit well". Dude, he bombed everyone LOL. his tempo is so controlled and smooth, love watching these.
@bobbykrechuniak8875
@bobbykrechuniak8875 5 лет назад
It's amazing watching matty's ability to alter his swing to match two different shafts and produce a very similar outcome. How does he pass the I'm not a robot checks online?
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 лет назад
😆
@chrisfreitag2603
@chrisfreitag2603 5 лет назад
Love this. So who said picking the right shaft was easy. Do you want the smooth Vylyn or do want bring the tomahawk? Hmmm. Nice way of highlighting the more subtle differences influencing selection.
@zakkwylde59
@zakkwylde59 5 лет назад
I'm curious about your comment ... "This one doesn't cross the line"(Raijan Black) From what I saw in the video Matt closely centered almost every shot with the (Vylyn Shaft) and produced a very controlled 5-10yd draw. However the Raijan Balck was 10-15mm toed almost every shot producing a Push Draw. What happens when that strike moves more to the center and doesn't benefit from the toe Push effect ? Does it then start on a much straighter line and cross center ?
@frogginbullfish8777
@frogginbullfish8777 5 лет назад
On the topic of feeling a shaft move, don't know if you guys watched The Tiger Woods Project on Golf Channel last week, but he mentioned that his Dad used to cut down the shafts on his clubs when he was growing up so it wasn't until he was tall enough to hit standard length clubs that he even felt a shaft move. He used to just grip it and rip it and the shaft was so stiff he didn't have to worry about timing, but as soon as he got to playing standard length, he had to learn timing.
@jjramz6618
@jjramz6618 5 лет назад
You guys should try to get your hands on the new HZRDUS smoke green!!!
@williag1970
@williag1970 5 лет назад
Love the VA slay in my 3 and 5 woods
@parnopsiripornpak428
@parnopsiripornpak428 5 лет назад
Vylyn shaft's graphic looks awesome. I wish there are more of those graphics out on the market.
@kyle1562
@kyle1562 5 лет назад
Watch prices skyrocket even more
@carolinablu3
@carolinablu3 5 лет назад
Great video... Is this vylan profile similar to the ADBB? I'm interested in this sort of profile since I have about 112 hc speed but with a very smooth transition where I feel like I almost pause at the top (I currently play the ADBB 7x)
@ericl9781
@ericl9781 5 лет назад
Lamkin Sonar grips are the best!
@mctayto1
@mctayto1 5 лет назад
The UK custom fit market is a sham ie you get fitted to a specific specification and then the clubs are made up and sent to you. Problem is that they have so much tolerances that when you receive your clubs they do not have the same specifications as those tested. Off the shelf is even worse. 2 yrs ago I purchased a 64 deg wedge and had it checked for loft and lie - the loft was 68.5
@felixeur1276
@felixeur1276 4 года назад
A 68°+ wedge should be called a F Wedge aka Flop Wedge
@farmerpewpew
@farmerpewpew 5 лет назад
i agree with matt that you can feel like you get more for less. i have a kuro kage silver, soft butt, in one driver and when i feel like i hold back a hair its pretty rewarding vs. my other driver which has a BiMatrix Proto in it. i feel like i have to put a real amount of swing effort to get a similar feeling.
@holleyz713
@holleyz713 5 лет назад
The Raijin Black sounds similar to the Paderson Kevlar series. Have you ever reviewed Paderson shafts?
@waynemayo8399
@waynemayo8399 5 лет назад
A quick question, is the VA Vylyn 75x similar in profile and performance to a Tour AD DI 7x. Many thanks for your time
@banditbaker1675
@banditbaker1675 5 лет назад
Ummmmmm, just wondering if a Bandit can be a Vylyn? Love the Pop Art graphics, very Roy Lichtenstein!
@Rexij
@Rexij 5 лет назад
Would that Villain shaft be somewhat comparable to the tensei blue? I believe Sergio is or was gaming those.
@norwegianwarhound451
@norwegianwarhound451 5 лет назад
I’m 47 and grunge was all the rage in college so I’m down with the graphics. I have a smooth transition but only a 93 mph driver swing. Would they make that shaft in a flex that would work for that? Love what you guys do. Always learning new things when I watch. Keep up the good work!
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 лет назад
Absolutely, they make both the 55 and 65 gram versions in Regular and Stiff flex so you'll have options
@tthhoommaass11223344
@tthhoommaass11223344 5 лет назад
i have f9 driver n wood with smoke shaft which i love, what would be a good similar shaft in the hybrid?
@devinwright131
@devinwright131 5 лет назад
You guys were just starting to hint at the idea of feels and how they can affect your attitude toward a swing during a round, etc. This year I'm noticing that when I stick with my basic "smoothie draw" I tend to give myself a ton of looks at birdie (and "smoothie" in more putts as well!). I'll end up -4 versus when I'm being aggressive and end up +6! My coach thinks I might need to move up from stiff shafts but I'm hesitant to because I don't want to lose that ability to just smooth it around the course and stay cool as a cucumber.
@TTedz
@TTedz 5 лет назад
How does the Raijin Black you tested here compare to the Tensei Orange, I believe you guys tested the Orange a while back.
@jasonperry5056
@jasonperry5056 4 года назад
Ian how would this compare to the GD tour AD XC and paired with a lighter head driver (ie Callaway Mavrik)
@implicitzen1262
@implicitzen1262 4 года назад
so will the draw/fade bias change if the shaft is in someone elses hands or is that just the behavior of the shaft? like if anyone else swung the raijin black would they also tend to hit fades?
@garydavis8213
@garydavis8213 5 лет назад
Ol Iron Byron was on today.
@jmont04
@jmont04 5 лет назад
Question: At 1:31 you can see the little "S" logo that says "FOR SHAFT" next to it, I've seen this on a lot of "premium" shafts, what does it mean??
@scifisicko2390
@scifisicko2390 2 года назад
Crossfield would like this one.
@mezzavoceify
@mezzavoceify 5 лет назад
Random idea, guys. Has their ever been a test of refinished golf balls vs. new balls? I have some refinished prov1s that I haven't used. Whatever they've been refinished with doesn't seem to contain urethane . . .
@dangodbey3207
@dangodbey3207 5 лет назад
How about a Vyln vs Ventus test ?
@maxcaysey2844
@maxcaysey2844 5 лет назад
A question would be whether a player, skilled enough, could simple manipulate the clubhead/face to be the same place at impact, regardless of shaft characteristic/flex? Like a dead stiff vs a whippy soft, might simple mean that the player reacts and therefore delivers the same numbers? Could this be a thing? Thoughts? Cheers!
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 лет назад
Max Caysey A highly skilled player would indeed manipulate the club to create something closely resembling the desired result.
@maxcaysey2844
@maxcaysey2844 5 лет назад
@@ianfrasergolf That was my thought too... I basically assume that's why someone like Mark Crossfield has the same result regardless of shaft. Sure, he was measured in Ping studio where they could measure his lead deflection/ droop etc. and they found that the way he loaded the shaft, shaft made little to no difference for him... I assume his stance on shafts is a mix of both :)
@thomaswrigley7343
@thomaswrigley7343 5 лет назад
Great video similar to what Crossfield says about shaft flex making little difference. Two 65 X stiff shafts totally different profiles and makes minimal difference to back spin which is MCs point when he goes from ladies to x stiff... although it shows the influence a profile can have on shot shape and feel to the player 👍
@painless4785
@painless4785 5 лет назад
How did the VYLN numbers change between 13:39 and 16:46 ?
@rayfarrell9482
@rayfarrell9482 5 лет назад
Would be very interested in seeing one of your guests fit for the lighter 45 or 53 gram VLYN.
@despitefulshadow3483
@despitefulshadow3483 5 лет назад
can install these shafts in older glue style heads
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 5 лет назад
DespitefulShadow yes
@wally6193
@wally6193 5 лет назад
I'm curious why you guys went from the Z Star xv to the Prov1x. I thought you loved the Z Star XV.
@EaglesXsandOs
@EaglesXsandOs 5 лет назад
Z Star XV didn't have as good quality control levels at Pro v1x
@kgbeast428
@kgbeast428 5 лет назад
Look at you guys. Sorta, kinda, matching.
@paulbown3960
@paulbown3960 5 лет назад
What other shaft compares to the vylyn?
@watwsplace8614
@watwsplace8614 5 лет назад
Put Matt in the VA with the Ping 410 with the Factory adapter set at 0 flat. My guess he can play four rounds aka tour event not get tired and take the miss right out of the golf equation. Just my 2 cents.
@ScottDreyfus
@ScottDreyfus 5 лет назад
Do you think that the performance of that Lst head makes shaft not as important in the fitting process. Matt is at exceptional speed. Ping tends to fit most average players into one of thier 2 proprietary shafts. It seems easier for average fitters, if they can get the static loft correct the low spin nature of the head makes it easier to get a not perfect but close fit. I personally can count on one hand how many great fitters I've experienced. One of these days I'm getting on a plane to come see you guys! Cheers
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 лет назад
launch/spin would be more determined by the head for sure, shafts would just be dialing in feel, timing, etc. to help consistency, strike location
@stevoislookingforgolfballs8046
Is it wrong that I can picture the Vylyn shaft in my white F6 5 wood with a small Harley Quinn sticker over the alignment logo?
@jsteffen2709
@jsteffen2709 5 лет назад
I think matt found his new driver
@haydenantoniogarcia5044
@haydenantoniogarcia5044 5 лет назад
I swing it at 117mph but when I last did a fitting they said I load it really well and I am hitting the ball with 3500rpm. what type of shaft would be a good fit for me?
@bengreen1262
@bengreen1262 5 лет назад
Hayden antonio Garcia If you watch some more TXG vids ~your numbers are similar to matts 3 wood spin ~ drop spin to 2500 and you will get the distance with 30yds of height rainbow flight .
@kourt2469
@kourt2469 5 лет назад
Dang when you said it has a good price point then said $250 my jaw dropped. I play a shaft designed by Tom wishon (designer of the sterling single length irons you tested the other week) cost $29 brand new. Best driver shaft I’ve ever played. Swing speed around 123-125 with my 43.5” driver feels just like those old proforce v2 shafts. Haven’t hit a tee shot OB in like 3 years since playing it. Can’t imagine paying $250 for a driver let alone just a shaft. To each his own I guess.
@jamesroam773
@jamesroam773 5 лет назад
Which Wishon shaft is it?
@kourt2469
@kourt2469 5 лет назад
@@jamesroam773 s2s black 85 gram stiff tip trimmed 1 inch
@Vitosalad
@Vitosalad 4 года назад
How is this shaft in a 3 wood????
@oldgold5848
@oldgold5848 5 лет назад
So ...two very different shafts.....both perform well......has Mark Crossfield got some compromising photos of you....??
@clubchampionmedia
@clubchampionmedia 5 лет назад
😆 didn't say they performed the same!
@oldgold5848
@oldgold5848 5 лет назад
@@clubchampionmedia as if!!!!
@FlyboyAF22
@FlyboyAF22 5 лет назад
I want to put babies to sleep with my ball flight!!!! 😂😂
@mikedeck22
@mikedeck22 5 лет назад
apple and bannana.....chalk and cheese looooooool
@ianjackson5653
@ianjackson5653 5 лет назад
Wait... we weren't supposed to eat the chalk?
@CraigalFun
@CraigalFun 5 лет назад
Put the ego aside. Has to be the Villain. He definitely looks like he's forcing the Black.
@maddad4767
@maddad4767 5 лет назад
Chalk & Cheese
@jordanelmquist4309
@jordanelmquist4309 5 лет назад
Lol secondary marketing at its finest
@aarondiehl33722
@aarondiehl33722 5 лет назад
“ apple and banana ... chalk and cheese” Lol You’re a clown dude
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