Tyranids vs Thousand Sons, 10th edtition Warhammer 40k battle report 

Should be on Stylus’s next T-Shirt

Thanks. It's a nice army to get creative with.

I feel like if it was remove Invulnerable saves it would still be really strong but nowhere near as oppressive

Nah, that was definitely when they started to have things that ignored invulnerable saves. Remove saves is something TS need as GW nerfed all their AP - inferno boltguns were effectively AP-4 in 7th ed, and dropped to AP-2, then AP-1 and remained the same price just about, thoug now they dropped to 19ppm from the ~24 they were.

I thought the same, also couldn't use the cabal thingy because it wasn't the start of the round. Especially when the Prince then wiped a unit of warriors, killed 2 zoanthropes, scored points for get behind enemy lines and then charged the big bug XD. In such a close game that totally swung the victory.

Love the court of miracles, how did you come up with the lore for them? Also hope to see more of you, Tsons under represented.

@@BentJacket Thanks! I started the army at the beginning of 8th Edition and built the narrative from there - taking notes of which sorcerers joined and how they performed in battle. If you want to see more Thousand Sons, there's a five-part narrative campaign on Winters' paid channel that features every Thousand Sons and Tzeentch Daemon model I own: The Silver Cage.

Oh I saw that back when DZTV was alive, loved it. Thanks for replying and keep up the good work man!@@WoffBoot

@@BentJacket Cheers! Glad you liked it.

This; deadly demise DOES hurt a models' own unit at this moment.

I guess my two Mutaliths now have names.

@@WoffBoot YES!! I love it hahaha

And Eldar was no where to be seen even!

Now that's a good statement for a t-shirt

Cheers, buddy.

Thanks!

I'd love it, but I think it might break Winters.

5.Echoes from the Warp must be played at the start of any phase and cannot be done as a reaction to a failed save.

Glad you enjoyed!

Thanks!

Possibly so. It's a useful ability for ongoing combat. I've only thought of it in terms of moving.

@@WoffBoot The most fun part of that ability that the beast doesn’t have to do a move, it simply happens at the end of the move phase. Even if it hasn’t charged anything yet, but in that close range.

Da Broken Toof tribe should Krump da 13th!

Thanks butty!

He could but he let rule of cool dictate his strategy over big bug vomits on them for better math.

he also forgot that vortex beasts do mortal wounds at the end of movement phase

his daemon prince without wings also got hit by zoanthroaps but forgot he had stealth

terminator sorcerer also gives out lethal hits, psychic or not

Good notes. Thank you.

The biggest challenge with playing Thousand Sons is keeping track of all the abilities, Psychic attack profiles, and using Cabal Sorceries at the start of phases.

Another one that I noticed - ritual making strat 0 CP. That strat must cost 1 CP because being increased by swarmlord

@@Hajit2 I don’t know if the verdict from GW is out on that, but I’m pretty sure the swarmlord’s ability wouldn’t affect the free strategem. The order of operations there seems to be that the swarmlord increases the cost when the strategem is used in one phase, then in a later phase (after the +1 cost is applied) the ritual drops the cost to 0

​@blade2453 reductions happens first, it's in the rules commentary. So goes to 0, then gets plus 1

@@HereticDave40k the commentary doesn’t say anything about the order of operations for cp modifiers specifically, and the commentary on modifiers in general state “you must apply division modifiers before multiplication modifiers, before applying addition and then subtraction” meaning the cp increase would be applied before the reduction to 0. Thanks for pointing out the commentary though, I didn’t know it had a dedicated section for how to apply modifiers until now

Honestly I don't know that the Tyrant Guard are worth it. Build your HT with extra scything talons and hide him till late game and use the points to add another monster that does some damage. For the 190 points you could take a Trygon for some backline deepstriking shenanigans.

@@effindave6909 Valid point you make! Tyrant guard just look really cool but I know GW changed the whole bodyguard organism rule 🙄 Always wanted to do a monster army for Nids and now we FINALLY can

@@samuelfry8192 I hear ya, my current 2k monster mash list is... Hive Tyrant Old One Eye (he makes carnifexes MUCH better) 2x Haraspex 2xTyrannofex w/ acid spray Tyrannofex w/ rupture cannon Maleceptor 2x Carifexes w/ talons and venom cannons Mawloc 2x 3 Zoanthropes 5x Barbguants I have had really good luck with this list even against my buddies Orks that are loaded with anti-monster 4+ squighog boys and Beastsnagga boys. I imagine it'll change some with the new codex and points values but not too terribly much.

@@effindave6909 OOE is an auto include if your taking fexes!! 💯 Not a fan of the haurespex looks wise but he’s now decent in combat in 10th Acid spray Tfexes are really good for blobs of infantry and overwatch 🤮🤮 Plus they can move and shoot within 6 inches of the HT. How you finding ruputure cannon tfex? I think the exocrines are an auto include they’ve really grown on me! Gonna have both of the Norn Variants but they need to be FAQ’d 🤝

@@samuelfry8192 I like the rupture cannons on paper but they never seem to work out for me. I'd much rather they were d6+3 damage or something to make them a bit less swingy. Also after you've murdernated all your opponents big stuff they don't serve much of a purpose. The acid sprays are great though like you said overwatch and they're great midfield objective holders. The emissary does need a bit of love but we have to remember that it has access to a pretty solid anti-infantry profile that the Assimilator does not. With the 4++ and fnp with OC15 on a chosen objective I think there's some play there.

And I would have gotten away with it too if someone hadn't filmed the whole thing and posted it the internet.

I'm not sure either Daemon Prince has that ability, but it was my first outing with them in 10th.