“What have I got to do to win here, I’m a nice guy” quite a genuinely sad comment, credit to John though he showed during his interview with Kugan he’s a class act
Not suggesting any inpropriety but McDermott's father beat Terry O'Connor the referee in a professional bout and he allegedly held a grudge for it...that is a fact
@I'mSmarterThanYouAndThereIsNothingYouCanDoAboutIt In this bout the referee also acted as the lone judge and scored it for Fury by 6 points. The UK is one of the only places in the world that uses this system.
If you had asked me to predict Fury's career that night, I would have said "He'll bounce around European level, get a title shot, come up short, get fed to a few prospects from Eastern Europe and finish his career as a recurring character on Prizefighter". Fair play to him for proving so many of us wrong.
@@liammc433 yea like he's there just cause his dad pressured him into it. then he started to get really great a few years later. he was nowhere near his prime in his early 20s
When you pick cans you look semi decent, since losing every round to john mcdermott he's beaten a basketballer 3 times I'll give him the draw, and cuddled klitcko in hamburg for 36 minutes
I have no brief for Tyson Fury and I have landed on this fight quite accidently but I don't think I have ever listened to a more biased commentary than this. Both of the commentators were clearly rooting for McDermott right from the start. No wonder there is controversy over Fury's win.
I wrote this over a year ago. Since then I have watched YELLOW BELLY do more damage to boxing than anyone else which is no mean feat. He blows up the fight with Usyk because that is way too risky and instead bashes the crap out of washed up journeymen for the morons who worship him. Naturally YELLOW BELLY is a big fan of the orange turd cos the two share a lot of traits.@@dannykweller7873
The "controversy" comes from the fact that Mcdermott landed more shots, was FAR more accurate, and had FAR better defense than Fury. With these facts (Go check if you don't believe me) in mind, how exactly are you suggesting that Fury won this?
@@importantvideos4529It is totally irrelevant to me now. In the last two years my opinion of Tyson Fury could not have changed more, though I didn't really like him then either. He has done huge damage to the image of boxing in the last two years. I want to see Fury roundly defeated by Usyk and disappear from the boxing scene
The fact that the commentators thought mcdermott won the first two says it all, Tyson clearly won them an tge majority of the rounds with cleaner work. Dermott kept rushing in with many punches not landing fury was slipping punches all night jabbing his head off, not sure how people see john winning... goes to show how the commentors and pro John crowd can sway the audiences. As the above poster says switch off the sound and please watch 😂
@@creepycrawler2151 Totally agree, I thought exactly the same when Adam Smith said John took those first 2 rounds, the guy is still doing that same bullshit to this day when he commentates on fights, picks a narrative and sticks with it to try and brainwash the casuals, 90% of the comments on this video are from casuals who probably didn't even watch the fight properly and are simply regurgitating whatever the commentators say 😂😂😂
mcdermott was effectively defending and countering those punches, so it doesn't mean shit lol. boxing is not about throwing more punches than your opponent, it's about hitting them and not getting hit. it's a huuuuuge stretch to call this a clear win for tyson fury lmao i personally think mcdermott won big here
@@neilreynard Mcdermott was literally running away towards the other ropes. Any worthwhile ref or judge would call that a surrender of the round while time remained on the timer
@@JosephNordenbrockartistraction did the judges call it a "surrender of the round" against fury when he fought wallin? Do you fanboys even follow this sport outside of fury?
stuart douglas Fury won the rematch fair and square ,and the stats are important in professional boxing and they do reflect the fight ,hitting someone without being hit yourself is the basis of the discipline ,Fury was lucky they bribed this ref.
96-94 Fury. I had Fury winning round 1 and 3 other than that I agreed with the broadcasters card. I think it becomes controversial because of the biased commentary which I see time and time again in British boxing. I think at the start of the fight they were maybe surprised that McDermott was having little successes here and there and really talked it up and began convincing themselves and others that John was winning rounds. Especially the guy with the thick accent. 98-92 is pretty wide which adds to the controversy.
That's how they used to score fights. It was after this fight that the BBBofC brought judges in to score fights. Obviously they thought the decision was a disgrace as well.
The BBBC changed their scoring rules and procedures as a result of this bad decision. But in this fight, you also notice what happens when even a good local fighter who lets his hands go imposes himself on Fury. Very few of his opponents move their feet or throw combinations, the way heavyweights used to. Fighters with an aggressive Plan A, the ability to throw those shots, and a Plan B at least, have given Fury a great deal of difficulty. Wilder had no ability to do that....he lacks even fundamentals. Whyte is tough, but a sluggish slugger. Fury is "retiring" without a single world-class, two-fisted opponent on his record. Usyk is leagues beyond any of Fury's opponents in technique, aggression, footwork, and capacity to throw combinations.
I even wonder how it was allowed to have a single person decide who will be national champion. Yes, Uzyk is a class higher than Fury. Will they ever fight? Fury has the balls to do it?
Fury was putting out the punches. McDermott was clinching, turning his back and walking away. The commentary fancied McDermott but his own corner knew he was losing it... "we're going to go home and cry". Like Fury said he was the one working.
@@ronoccc you know how boxing is scored, yeah? Effective Aggression, not giving the impression of dominance but landed shots without being countered, Ring Generalship, the fighter who controls the action enforcing his will (0 points awarded for holding the entire match), Defense (slipping, parrying and blocking punches) and lastly Hard Clean Punches (power punches mainly that land clean, landing flush and not blocked). Dillian Whyte got smashed by Joshua, Fury will make a complete shithouse out of all of them (Wilder, Joshua, Whyte etc.) This video is Fury's 8th pro fight and the first against a true challenge. Whyte lost to AJ his 17th pro fight and his last win was over a 35 year old Derek Chisora. Other notable fights he's had since AJ include Joseph Parker and another earlier bout with Chisora, who Fury made a complete joke out of Chisora their last go about.
Furys corner knew he lost, they sent him out for the knockout in the 10th because they knew he should be down on the cards. Dont try and justify a scorecard of 98-92 to Fury. He was outjabbed by a smaller man, the fight was fought at Mcdermotts pace and at his range and he had the better of the fight until the last couple of rounds. McDermott won this by at least 2 rounds for me.
Either way it doesn't matter. Every all time great has lost. Ali , Robinson , Mike Tyson and even Mayweather as he lost against Castillo. Doesn't change the fact that at his best Fury could beat anyone from any era at 6 ft 9 and 19 stone.
Turning your back and walking away from your opponent is the same as a knockdown. That's how McDermott lost. Also, I never saw a low blow but just a great body punch. Since there was no replay I think that Fury won for being credited by the referee for 3 knockdowns and the holding, and throwing elbows by McDermott. That's only what I think the referee was thinking. Thank You UK for keeping boxing relevant with everybody tuning in to the UFC. It's too brutal for me. I hate it.
Honestly, I've watched this fight twice now and both times I gave it to fury. I had it 7 to 3 fury with John winning 4, 8 and 9. The commentary and highlights were all for McDermott. Very biased. Fury out jabbed him and landed so many more shots. John landed less shots but better shots but he still got out landed. Watch the fight without the commentary. Fury won this fight.
mcdermott really impressed me. dont know how theyre scoring him allegedly winning. i give fury several rounds against the commentators. 1 quality punch isnt worth more than 1 point. mcdermott showed better quality, but he lost no doubts
@@richardmullins1883 Not always, if it's a stiff jab that rocks the opponents head and neck back vs a weak hook to the body with no power or effect then the jab is obviously worth more.
SiLo Mixing and Mastering furys jab was weak asf if anyones head was getting rocked by a jab it was fury he was wobbled many times and caught clean.. fury did throw more punches but had no effect dermott ate them and outboxed him in the fight it was clear win for mcdermott
I think McDermott won but Fury fought moving backwards in the first five rounds so I don't think the TV score was so one sided. I've got McDermott 3-2 in first five not 4-1.
Crazy how old this looks and it was 2009 when I graduated high school. Seeing McDermott land that 16 hit combo in his highlights before the fight started...nasty
I’m halfway into the 4th round and the commentary is absolutely embarrassing so far. I have Tyson 3-0 so far. The bias towards everything McDermott does is ridiculous.
Fury should be truly thankful he has had the most gifted decisions and opportunities esp opportunities his whole career and he still thinks now he`s one of the greatest heavyweights ever.He is a good fighter but now hes won belts he is pickin who he wants too often.Usyk should heve been his next opponent not Nganno whatever his name.He was lucky he get the nod against him aswell
I'd say this fight could've been a draw. McDermott did win more than the 2 rounds but it wasn't a clear win for McDermott like some think. Tyson beat him in the rematch and he's done a lot of work to get where he is. Tyson has been robbed himself, he clearly won the 1st wilder fight.
From wiki On 11 September 2009, Fury fought John McDermott (25-5, 16 KOs) for the English heavyweight title, and won via a points decision.[54] Fury came in as a 1-6 favourite but produced a poor display, and the 98-92 decision by the referee Terry O'Connor was criticised as a "travesty".[55] The decision led the British Boxing Board of Control to mandate three judges for all English titles, and the board ordered a rematch.[56]
I see fury years ago training , and said then he was special, he's just so hard to tag clean, as long as fury is in a good place mentally then no one will beat him ..
I gave McDermott 3,4,5 and 8. I think 1 and 3 were both pretty close but otherwise I can't see much more room to give either man a round over the other. 98 to 92 is ridiculous but Tyson winning the fight to me isn't unfair. I think this fight was so much closer than the 98 to 92 that was scored and way closer than all the band wagoners who say McDermott got robbed say it was as well. Just my opinion but that's what I believe. I guess this is why we're supposed to have 3 judges.
The last two rounds fury hurt McDermott and the reff stepped in a few times in the same manner that save mcD from being knocked out and when he turned and went to the ropes is when one of the 3 I'm speaking of started and finished.
I love Tyson Fury (we follow each other on Twitter) but he clearly lost this fight. He redeemed himself in the rematch 9 months later but this asterisk will always be on his record. Jim Watt's scorecard pretty much summed this fight up. 6 rounds to 4.
If Andy Ruiz get to top shape and be motivated to the fullest i think then Ruiz would give Fury a good fight after watching this fight. The smaller guy is more clinic against bigger guys.
@@sorchadunbar3341 Exactly. 90% of people here are just commenting like sheep saying 'John was robbed' after half watching 3 rounds and mainly listening to the horrendous commentary to form their opinion lmao, trust me that's what casuals do, during a 12 round fight my mates are usually on their phones on facebook or twitter during the middle rounds of a fight until near the end and then just regurgitate whatever they heard the commentators say throughout those rounds they didn't really watch and use that as their own opinions for who won the fight 🤣🤣
I remember the furore that surrounded this fight but this is the first time I've seen it. I had it 96-94 to McDermott. 98-92 to Fury is a joke. How could you possibly think McDermott only won two rounds? LOL Via The Guardian: "Frank Maloney suggested O'Connor looked at his fighter's corner and had flashbacks to 1977 - the night John's father knocked seven bells out of O'Connor at the Royal Albert Hall." 29:41 "Every time Terry O'Connor has refereed McDermott, he's lost." Hmmmmmm
@@quackster8295 agreed, slight edge to Fury, very close fight. no way it's a robbery. it's razor tight, and the scoring was wrong, but the outcome of Fury winning i think is right. he just threw so many more punches, and always threw back in combos when he got hit hard. he wasn't knocked down or even close to dominated. this was CLOSE. slug fest, great fight. bias commentators, they keep saying another round to Mcdermott, and i'm thinking what? how so sure? many of those i gave to Fury by a hair. not an easy fight to score. McDermott was robbed against Danny Williams their first fight though
rorythered I think Tyson edged it yeah, it was just the shock of how well JM did wasn’t it, get a close fight with a big prospect or popular champ and it’s a robbery.
@Brother Spartacus he did not win at least 5 rounds, pay attention to the fight, guy could not hold his range, was getting hit with the cleaner shots to head and body and lost the fight by at least 2 rounds
@Brother Spartacus nothing to do with anything I heard or commentary, I watched the fight for what it was, Fury had some good jabs and won some rounds but he was not in control of the fight and was being made to engage unsuccessfully in McDermotts preferred style of attrition. How the referee managed to score that 98-92 in Furys favour is embarrassing.
@Brother Spartacus Fury himself you could see by his reaction and the instructions of his corner going into the final round, did not believe he was winning the fight
almost every human is a retard, so pointing out majority opinion is retarded in itself. It was a clear pummeling. However he did show his chin this early on
@big dog Same. Lots of sheep jumping on this 'McDermott clearly won' bandwagon, nope it's just the overly biased commentary that makes it seem that way.
Massive fury fan but he lost this fight no doubt about it, fury did him in the rematch though so what can you say boxing isn’t subjective it really isn’t that hard to score
@@peacelove8223 yes it was close but furys rounds were very close where as McDermotts won his rounds more clearly. The ref must of been paid of to give it 8 rounds to 2.
One of the worst decisions i've ever seen. 98-92! Where the fuck did Terry O'Conjob get that from! Oh That's right, he got it from the hiding that John McDermott's dad gave him when they fought each other. Sour grapes and revenge the ref? And Fury knows damn well he lost that, and lost it by some distance. I'm not surprised John McDermott pissed off out of the ring. I don't normally agree much with what Frank/Kellie Maloney says, but on this one he/she was absolutely bang on, Terry O'Connor should never have been allowed near a boxing ring again (or at least for a pretty long time). That's a worse result than when Ricky Burns got a draw against Raymundo Beltran and Amir Khan got robbed against Lamont Peterson.
+kdlofty - at that point Fury had only fought 16 rounds as a pro and had never been beyond 4 rounds...he beat John's ass proper in the rematch. Sounds like sour grapes coming from you. This was a toe to toe slug fest. Big John landed at a better % but Fury landed as often and threw far more. Fury also took the second half of the 9th and aced the 10th...making John turn his back 2x's. Fury's lack of defense via inexperience is what allowed John to land often but Fury was the better boxer and more versatile...and showed more heart in the championship rounds. It is what it is.
Not at all, just a factual statement backed by ex professionals. For the record, i agree with you about the rematch, fury hammered him all over place. I mean credit where it's due, fury still has some questions to answer (as do most boxers), but one of the big ones was his chin, and fair play to him he's answered that, Steve Cunningham dropped him with good shot be got back up and deservedly won the fight. I've only seen him stunned twice, one was when Derek Chisora caught him in their first fight, and the second was when he hit himself! (which you have to admit was pretty hilarious). The second fight with Derek Chisora was one of the most sided beatings i've ever seen. Up until a few years ago David Price was ahead of him (before he got found out for his lack of professionalism, and is now to all intent's and purposes finished, unless he gets rid of his entire "team" and buggers off to america and completely starts over again, but i can't see it myself), but now Fury's just flown past him and is in a different league. I Don't know about you, but don't see him beating Vladimir Klitschko or Deontay Wilder. Will he be a world champion? If the belts get split again yes, or if Klitchsko retires (which i don't think is too far away). And then there's the Phenomenon that is Anthony Joshua.......
I had it a draw, but I could see the argument for McDermot, as he just kept walking Fury down and did some good inside work. Then again I can kind of understand why a loan judge/referee could give it to Fury, due to the sheer volume he was throwing. McDermot might have landed the stronger punches, but a lot were coming off Fury's shoulders and from inside fighting. So it is understandable if the ref missed some of his punches in a close fight. Whereas Fury was continuously snapping McDermot's head back as he landed cleanly with "cuffing shots" and "arm punches" The commentary for this was more of a disgrace than the decision if you ask me
Im also a big fury fan but a draw would of been a fair result, what a top quality fight this was though and I am glad that fury pulled through this fight and kept the unblemished record.
Yeah I could have seen if going either way. I had Tyson up one round but I wouldn’t argue against a draw or a McDermott win. There were lots of very close rounds between the two but the commentary swayed a lot of people’s opinions. They had Fury losing before he entered the ring
Problem, even back then is/was that McDermott was not as marketable as Fury or Danny Williams who he also claimed to have gotten robbed against. An average looking Joe who was a decent boxer but nothing to write home about. That is why, the marketable fighters, always get preferential treatment when it comes to close fights that go to a decision. There is too much hype and money invested in them, to fall against more experienced boxers who fight better on the night, but don't set the world on fire. Fury had a more marketable back story and that has helped him get where he is today, as well as having equal talent, and boxing IQ/ability. its show business and entertainment too as well as one of the toughest sports on the planet.
52:52 the words of a true champion offers a rematch straight after a close fight and knocks him out just as he said he would do. Crazy how this man would go on to become the only fighter to hold every single World championship belt in heavyweight boxing. The Gypsy King is a G.O.A.T.
20:00 Commentator talking about McFermott's lack of experience.... I just came from the second fight, a year later, where they were talking about McDermott having all the experience and being the veteran fighter. Guess it was a big year?
