@Edmunds Cars Nope, didn't expect anything less. Wait until you see what a slightly modded M8 is running in the 1/4 mile. Just Ethanol tune & downpipes and guys are running high 9's in the 1/4 mile, 0-60mph in 2.4
First run full fake turn by lucid he turn long wat and bmw turn close of flag for fast and sec by other again fake now he drive bmw and turn close and same like lucid turn close but little slow lucid drive both car is fast test but on turn in flag someone do long someone do close turn no fair
Overboost on launch. Even in the M40i cars, it launches hard. Much harder than you’d expect. Some have tested the M8C doing 0-60 in 2.6 seconds (w/ 1ft rollout, the standard)
Cool comparison but with pirelli p zero all season tires on one car and michelin ps4s on the other the m8 has huge advantage in launch cornering and braking.
@@ninobrown1309 The Lucid Sapphire would destroy it. It beats pretty much everything, including racing bikes and hypercars. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EyDpQpcPpuc.html But to be fair, the Sapphire costs like $100k more than the M8.
@@harry-eto Unfortunately speccing our Lucid with the summer tires & 21-inch wheels would've caused a significant delay in our delivery, so we went with the all-seasons and smaller wheels. But we try to match things up as close as we can! Stay tuned for what we have in the works!
I was in fact wondering how was that possible. Electric cars like Tesla Model S Plaid and Lucid Air GT simply cannot be beaten by any mass produced combustion vehicle, at least till around 70mph...
As always BMW underates their power numbers, and BMW xdrive is perfection off the line. Imagine that twin turbo V8 monster with just a 1000 dollar tune. Bonkers.
@registrationaccount1034 well I mean your opinion is your opinion, but i think the lucid is more luxurious on the inside than the m8,and on the roll the lucid would smoke the m8 period,
@registrationaccount1034 hmmm, I don't think so I don't think 1000 dollar and downpipes will get it to 1000hp, I haven't seen any m8 with that much hp yet, Lucid air has instant torque remember it will still shoot off faster than the m8, the m8 would probably catch it after 165 mph witch is where the lucids top speed limiter is, but I would still take the lucid tho, the m8 still a monster tho so I won't argue
Best test in my opinion. Mixes drags for those who care about straight line speed and turning for those who like twisty roads. Comes to show you how important turning and braking is
Lucid needs better tires, better wheels, and better brakes...I love the U-Drag race concept but this one really should be redone. The set up on the Lucid was most of the reason for the BMW win -- not the cars per se.
@@Mandolin1944 depends on the limiting factor. If it's just that the tires don't fully allow the brakes to work, then just better tires are all that's needed. If the brakes are already maxed out, then you are correct.
@@harry-eto I agreed it makes it unfair. However, it's the tire lucid offers and the rules stipulate OEM specifications. So if Lucifer were to offer sport tires, that would allow them to do better. Too bad lucid is definitely not reading this.
@@roguedogx well, some off the shelf Pilot Sport 4S would have been just fine. If Lucid doesn't offer them, any tire dealer will happily help for that matter.
Pardon my ignorance but this 1/4 mile U drag race is way more fun to watch, and I am sure a ton more fun to drive compared to the regular 1/4 mile drag race we have come to see plenty. This is the future of the 1/4 mile drag race, want to see others do the same.
4:44 are you actually claiming that the Lucid air is brakes are insufficient to stop the wheels from turning at reasonably high speed? The ABS is unable to be activated? Or do you mean that it would benefit from more and better tire up front?
Just that it doesn't have sporty summer tires or performance brakes, which is especially important for the extra-heavy, extra-powerful Lucid. This means the Lucid can't slow down anywhere near as quickly as an M8 or other sporty cars, and that at the same speed it can't turn as well as the Bimmer or others. ABS isn't an issue, just the sheer force required takes longer and harder to reign in on non-performance rubber. Testing at extreme limits like on a track exposes that to the nth degree.... but even a very sporty driver would have a hard time bringing a Lucid anywhere near its limits on the road w/o going nuts.
Edmunds, I can see you have 19” wheels and therefore all season tires on the Lucid? Why would you do this race without summer performance tires? What kind of tires are in the M8? And do you think it’s a fair assessment not using the proper tires?
I have zero idea why you guys don't churn out 3 of these a week. It is, by far and away, the best way to show capabilities of these cars and there are tons of different races to see. Hire more people. Buy more air strips. Borrow more cars. MORE MORE MORE!!!!
Now, sure, if there's a delay between hitting the gas and actually moving in the Lucid. But in both races, the M8 starts moving before the Lucid 8:53 watch the brake light difference.
For drag racing and performance, the Lucid would be better off on 21 inch wheels with summer tires, not the all season tires represented in this video.
Yeah, Motor Trend's drag race seems pretty clear that even this Lucid would accelerate much faster than an M8, or even way faster+lighter cars... I can believe that the M8 could easily beat it in turns and braking, but it seems odd that the M3 gets the jump especially off the line by that much when it seems to be the other way around on other tests. It msut be due to the rubber.
Yeah, the performance would have been a fair comparison because that model, though fast(as most EVs) is not meant for racing, hence the poor tires and breaking performance which is important.
“Brakes and tires folks, they matter at U drags” Ok,so equivalent tires to both. Using a range tire for performance it’s not the way, right? Otherwise, the concept of the show is fun.
Love how you both switch cars in all the U Drags. Kurt is the better driver time and time again so its important to get both drivers in both cars so you can get an average time
Problem isn't with breaking but when it comes to corners and drifting BMW belongs to another universe. Due to edge of drifting in M cars it had advantage to return back.
Love the M8 and would pick that over the Lucid anyway but have to be fair here. The Lucid wasn’t tuned for racing where as the M8 has always been. Change the tires and brakes alone and this is a different race. Also the Lucid is 20% heavier. That extra 1000 pounds is a massive gap to overcome. Still the M8 is a fantastic piece of engineering and good on BMW for keeping it with the combustion engine.
Edmunds, I just want to commend y'all on this U-drag race. Y'all really do a good job. Not only is it free of unnecessary filler like carwow but you also have the drivers switch cars to ensure you get the best time possible.
To be fair, that model of lucid is not meant for racing, it is a fast car, but it's not a race car. Hence the poor tires and breaks on that model, a more fair comparison would have been the performance model.
Gotta love them underated german cars. It won in my book just after the sound check. 200hp less and it leaped off the line. Just bonus for me. 10 second car on unpreped road with reg tires on pump premium gas is nuts. Granted most people cant afford either. Thats y I modify my old cars. Average people like to be fast too. Oh did we mention bnw fuels up in 5 minutes? I spoke to a proud tesla Y owner. He was so impressed that after 2 hour charge on 220v he got 40 miles 🤣🤣🤣. You want to win people over EV. Be cheaper the ICE, charge up in 10min or less. With no oil or maintenance, they will win. Assuming they dont burn down for no reason. EV does not seem like long term winner. Honestly will any of this speed matter once they ticket us to death with all the revenue making speed and red light cams coming out? Prob not.
All this lucid would have needed to win is the same tires on the M8 not 19” all seasons lol. The midtier 4 door luxury sedan on all season tiny tires is only a half second slower than the all out 2 door M car. Think about that for a moment.
Here’s an idea; if you’re going to put a lucid in a race don’t use the maximum range configuration. Fuel efficiency is the opposite of sportiness. For example their lucid has the least sporty wheels possible.
BMW traditionally publishes very conservative hp numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if that car dynos closer to 750 or 800 hp. That is a really fast car.
@@nerdeater27 the BMW is still impressive because the Lucid has more power even in this version. It is not enough to just install big batteries and a powerful electric engine. A car also needs sublime suspension and brakes. At this price tag the Lucid is disappointing as hell.
My 2009 Subaru Forester came with soft springs and shocks, 16 inch wheels and all season tires. It now has a 3 inch drop from coilovers, every aftermarket suspension piece sold for a STi and 18 X 9.5 inch wheels with sticky Falken Azenis RT615K+ tires. I wonder which version of my car would win U Drags?
we really need a U-drag between that orange Shelby GT500 and this M8 Competizione, and make sure both cars are in tip-top shape and both have the same fuel level and tires and all...pleaseeeee lolol
It’s still a win for Lucid that their non-performance model fared that well against the fastest and sportiest M8. The battle should have been with the Lucid Air Grand Tour Performance with the 1050 hp.
Why not the Sapphire Edition which is the sportiest Lucid Air 😅 just curious lol? The only reason why the Lucid lost is because it only has the two motors. The Plaid and Sapphire have 3 so it pushes better on the rear and it has better tires and way better breaks. Doesn’t give the M8 justice 😢
@thomas they should have done an apples to apples comparison. The Lucid sapphire is the sport version. They should have used that against the M8 competition to really see how it two performance vehicles stack up against each other. Instead they a high end M8 with the sportiest package vs non sport version lucid. Lucid Air Pure - 480hp Lucid Air Pure Touring - 620hp Lucid Air GT - 819hp Lucid Air GT Performance - 1,050hp Lucid Air Dream Edition - 933hp Lucid Air Dream Performance Edition - 1,111 Lucid Air Sapphire - 1200+ HP
This is an interesting pairing because you are comparing internal combustion at its best versus a mid-level electric car that is still relatively early in technology. What outcome would be achieved in a decade? Are we seeing a “John Henry” thing where the old tech might still be better than the new tech, but for how long? What we might be witnessing is the end of an era… for better or for worse.
top of the line BMW M8 vs Mid level Lucid air. Like i dont like electric cars because id rather the sound and feel of an engine but u gotta compare top to top
