07 speed3 owner for past 3 years now and haven’t had a single issue with the car besides replacing the clutch and basic things that needed fixing love this car it has 134 k
@@kylebradley8963 too high mileage in my opinion, if u keep looking youlll find a gem for sure bro but it’s up too you if the car is in good shape then I’d say go for it but I prefer the Gen1’s because of the bucket seats
Dumb question but what would be more enjoyable to drive, this or a BRZ/"86"/FRS? the bring in rwd aspect of the brz is enticing but a speed3 sounds just as good and has room
@@sauce3283 no FWD cars always have a problem under steering especially WHEN your making a decent amount of power. That’s why left foot braking is a thing because fwd cars always understeer
The front tires have to do everything twice as much when a car is fwd. tires suck at doing two things at once so having the power going to the front and trying to corner is VERY problematic. All these characteristics are only amplified when your driving at the edge of the cars performance.
@@sgtjohn4321 buddy you obviously haven’t driven a mazdaspeed 3, civic type R, or veloster type N. These cars all have great methods of LSD that actually can create oversteer when driven correctly. Piper down until you know what you’re talking about
@@benjaminhayes2483 you can induce oversteer MANY WAYS . Aggressive lift off. Hard braking and weight transitions lol. I have a Lexus first car rwd and I just got s mk4 gti
I've a 2011 Gen2 - totally standard in Europe - Had it a long time now and is totally reliable - doesn't scrape cos it's not lowered - got an indicated 157mph on the autobahn - I didn't buy it for the track - It will spin the wheels from a standing start but no more than any other FWD hot hatch - Holds its own against any similar vehicle even the latest stuff. I service it super regular cos I love it and it has never ever let me down. F--king brilliant car and I can't see myself selling anytime soon as something similar like the latest Type r is such a lot of money in comparison, plus a Type r is gonna lose a ton of cash over the next 5 years in depreciation, where as my Mazda is going to lose bugger all in comparison as the depreciation on a 10 year old car stops especially if it's immaculate- Zoom Zoom - I wish Mazda would make a new Speed before we all go electric though. Great video again, I like those that honestly provoke thought about the car that you own.
The reason you see all of these “weird problems” is because 80% of the owners are younger than 20 years old and have absolutely no idea what they are doing and then blow the shit up. Same story with the SRT4’s, older generation wrx’s etc. they get an accessport, turn the boost up to the max without any other supporting mods because they don’t have any spare money for good parts and then stress their cars engine to the max until KABOOM. So a lot of your arguments are purely situational. I’ve owned many turbo cars and I’m in my early 20’s and have never had a catastrophic failure with any of them. ST, turbo si, SRT4 and now my speed3. If you have half a brain and watch the videos posted by Will Dawson about maintenance and what to do/not to do, you’ll be fine.
What would you say to look for when purchasing one of these cars, like common issues and signs of wear on the turbo or other parts. Also what is a fair price for one of these cars. I was looking for a civic si but I can’t find any that don’t have terrible paint so I’m trying to open my possibilities but I have no clue about these cars.
@@atotheu7112 If you want a “reliable” turbo car I would honestly stick to an ST or a turbo SI. They are going to last longer than a speed on average. Downsides of the engine: intake manifold has horrible flow and therefore leads to low compression in cylinders especially cylinder 3. VVT is another common issue accompanied by the “chain slap” sound. And lastly the turbos tend to fail commonly. I have 60k miles on catless downpipe and it’s running fine, for now. I’m getting out of cars for now so my speed will be my last “fun” car for a while until I can afford a low mileage evo or golf R, if you are dead set on a speed3 get a compression test done, and upgrade your intake manifold with HPFP internals(this is a must for these cars).
@@atotheu7112 it has to be stock man, if its not stock, then its garbage just like the one from the video above its trash car, ruined not properly maintained. if its stock, then : check turbo, check under for rust, check engine compression and if its all good, ur good to go. If it has accessport - dont buy it - its trash, or buy it and start a youtube channel saying how problematic ur car is and start puting some cheap china plastic on it.
I enjoyed your detailed review of issues with your Gen 2. I had a Gen 1 purchased new in '08 and owned it for 7.5 years and 130K. It was stock except for the dealer installed Mazdaspeed intake (I didn't even know what an Accessport was). I should have sold it at 100K miles because that's when it started nickel and diming me to death including turbo replacement. In late 2015, I bought a new '16 Golf R manual. Back then it was only $36K. The dealer happened to have an on-premises tuner shop so I took full advantage of that availability, building it up to aa APR Stage 2 with 387 HP and 409 FT LBS to the crank. The massive increase in power necessitated upgrading the clutch to a Stage 3 racing clutch. I have had this car going on 8 years (but only 63K miles) and loving every minute driving it. Because I'm now retired and driving much less, I figure the car will outlive me as long as it doesn't get totaled. Anyway, thanks for bringing me back to the good old days of my arrest-me red Speed 3. An interesting note: when I went to sell the Speed 3, I advertised it in AutoTrader and sold it in a single day.
I guess it´s everywhere else unpopular. No tuning parts in europe. You have to order everything from america and for that you have to pay 250% of the porduct price. Shipping, taxes etc. And at the end you can´t even install the parts legally in Germany because everything on the Extiror and Engine has to be certified by an assessor. Without information on the material and risk assessment, there is no approval. All modifications to the engine can result in more pollutant emissions or noise. You would have to buy each product at least twice and have one of them destroyed to get a chance of being approved. In addition to this a lot of propaganda was made by Volkswagen for the GTI at the time, so that almost every other vehicle was badmouthed by car magazines, so that hardly anyone grabbed it.
VVT & k04 are the biggest flaws in terms of reliability. Gen Juan owner here :) my car has been great to me for the year I’ve had it, only thing I’ve ran into was rear suspension clunk/noises.
@@Slowyourrollvarietyshow for me it’s the opposite bruh, I get almost embarrassed when people think something is wrong when they hear all the noises lmao
"The MS3 is expensive to build out, it can blow up if you don't know what you're doing, and boost means it can be wily in the corners... ...Also this is my first turbo car"
I appreciate the honesty ... typically when I think of Mazda I think light weight and agile - RX-7, MX-5's . If the MazdaSpeed 3 was around 2800 pounds then it would make sense for it to not be AWD . At 3200+ pounds I would have thought it would be AWD for that weight. Atleast it's a good looking hatch.
If u buy a MS3 for tracking or dragging, u dis not do your homework. Any car that gets mods can get finicky. Mod it right by following proven mod paths and it will be reliable. I've had mine from new since 2012... 130K miles on it now. I've had some issues but overall its been pretty reliable. Had to rebuild engine with upgraded internals when an OEM piston cracked at 75K. The rebuild was good for about 35K miles when a manley rod broken and went though block. Got used block on ebay and reused same internals and its back up. I'd say I've spent $7K overall on parts over the years. It pushes @380 tq/hp at wheels so it's fun but will peel out. MIichelin PilotSports help A LOT to minimize that. Super happy with car over past 11+ yrs. If you can wrench, this is an easy platform to mod. Good luck finding an unmodde one (or one that looks stock but was actually modded and stocked out prior to being put on sale).
Имею 1 gen с 2006 гола. Был тюнинг с gt3071 и кованными потрохами, пружины Eibach, аммо Bilstein b8, рушится прекрасно, сейчас поставил g25-550 . Я ее люблю за эмоции. Когда я включаю 3 передачу, улыбка не сходит с лица.
I just bought a 2012 with 90k miles for work traveling and couldn't believe how well it handles and scoots along. It's been nothing but issues and rotted underneath like you wouldn't believe even though the body looks great. Doesn't matter if it's made in Japan or not. Which is was.
I own my gen 1 since 2007 BNRS3 and freaktuned since 2015. True you need to spend 1K for AP and internals but aftermkt parts much cheaper vs VW or others then you pay through the nose for a canned tune from APR and TCU tune. It comes out about even hp for cost of mods.
I was a mechanic on speeds and had one as my first own car and as cool and fast as they are they just are not reliable unless u drop 6-8k on forged motor even then forged motor the more hp you have the more u gotta baby it bc something on the Frame will snap and if u can’t handle torque steer don’t get it lol
Its an awesome car, i do agree though in the wet the front tyres can easily spin in 1st gear (I sometimes spin mine when taking off at lights in the wet but thats part of the fun) its because of the amount of power (torque) the engine makes. But honestly i love my car so much its so much fun to drive and yours looks great btw🙂
Watching Misha’s video on the Speed3 from a while back makes it funny watching this video. The only handling mods he made to the car were good coilovers but nothing else and the guy said it handled very well, and at the end of the video he was on the ass of a Porsche for a good while. The car does not seem to be the issue
Hey, I’m looking into getting a speed 3 for my first manual car since I’ve loved the Mazda 3. If I don’t plan on doing any real engine or power mods and stick with cosmetic. Would you still suggest it, as I would use it as a daily driver. Love the vids man.
I've got the 1st gen speed 3 and I say get it. It's my daily driver and I actually even use it as a delivery car whenever I feel like doing Postmates. It's held up extremely well and I have fun driving it. I'm also FBO running e85 making 360 whp which says something. I couldn't be happier. And honestly, I think the handling is great. I've driven it hard and fast in the canyons with really tight turns and it's done well. I do have upgraded suspension and sway bars so that contributes a lot.
Hey man I have a 2012 speed 3 and it’s great I blew my stock turbo but it’s just stuff to deal with when getting into cars other than that it’s been great I daily drove mine and loved every minute of It.
I think two of the biggest obvious issues with car owners apart from unfortunate scenarios by random chance is: 1: how they drive their car & 2: how they maintain it.
I have a 2012 speed3 with a cobb intake and cobb tuner and I had it on stage 1 with no high pressure fuel pump internals and I beat that thing ever time I touched the gas lol, and ir did blow up after about 80,000km, fun car, but like you said upgrades are expensive and it is annoying how finicky they are
Call that a list of what every potential turbo car has for problems. They are one of the most reliable stock turbo car, and if you think an STI is super better, go do some head gasket work on them like they all do need eventually. There is very little difference in tune costs unless you just wanna slap bolt ons, wich wont be a bang for your buck on any car. Your full mod list shows more esthetic mods and interior painting than anything. To each his own and it does look sweet but remember: cheap, fast, reliable, you can only pick 2
I have had a 2011 ms3 since 2014 as a daily driver. Eco IX mr was my baby but the turbos leak on these every single time. Shitty seals and they smoke like a chimney. Paid 2k for a turbo rebuild and 2yr later started smoking again and then timing chain broke so it’s been sitting I driveway for many years
Hey, what's up. I am a gen 2, 2011 159000k mile speed3 owner for less than 20 days. From a local dealership here. I had done my research and thought a mazdaspeed3 would be a great choice, and she looks mean. I should have taken the first malfunction as a sign. The HID passenger side light. Next to follow was a hairline crack in the brake caliper. The shift shaft link seal went, then blew gear oil everywhere.i repaired those items topped gear oil back off. Decided to do a little preventive maintenance. Changed the plugs to find out they were rusty and original, had oil pooling down intake hose, so i think turbo almost gone.changed oil and filter,found motor oil dripping everywhere from gasket make. I think seal is leaking at the crankshaft and leaking onto clutch. I found motor stopleak in oil change. Repaired hole in coolant reservoir. Changed and topped off. She smokes as bad as a mosquito sprayer. Haven't had a day off of the car to go to work to make money to keep my only car on the road.Any suggestions on what I should concentrate on next?
Get a third party pre purchase inspection next time bro, always worth the money and they would’ve told you not to buy the car. It sounds like it’s a piece of crap and not worth whatever the dealership scammed you for.
What exhaust are you running ? What lowering kit? What body kit is that And what rear diffuser is that??? Car looks so aggressive. Hope you still have her
If I bought one to mod I would pull the engine asap and put forged rod's and pistons and get stronger piston sleeves. These engines are renowned for their spaghetti rod's for anything over stage 1 .
@@jjms3 But you spent almost the entire video bashing MS3"s. Yes they have a few problems, however for the cost of one, you get a lot. I paid 22k for mine brand new in 2013 and fully modified, it's cheaper than most hot hatches with less HP. Also you can do almost every mod in your garage with basic tools.
So you need better tires/wheel combo and new mounts and bushings and possibly a driver mod. Also you have to mod in a certain order and do research, gasp... "kinda unfortunate from what I heard." The beige is a legal thing. It does not cost less than black, but the government decided that with black pillars and headliner it is harder for police to see in your car at night so they make manufactures do the pillars and up in a bright color. Also modding cars is a hobby not an investment. Enjoy what you have and spice that bay up...
I recently bought a second Gen 2 MS3, but with a lot of trepidation. My other MS3 is a bit of a unicorn in that it had a bit less than 47k miles on and had clearly been taken care of, so I had little worries about buying it, plus, I really needed a car! The second one I just bought had several owners in the past, but only around 84k miles on it; it isn't modded in any way, but clearly had not received the care it deserved. I am in the process of getting it first dependable and then looking less like someone's lowered, roof-racked, crappy tint job and slightly smelly MS3 example.
You did not mention injectors once, which are absolutely critical on this vehicle. This is just as important, if not more important than the VVT. Most of the "unlucky" dudes blowing them up on the Facebook forums are slapping catless downpipes and big turbos with a bubble crack tune and have done no regular maintenance or injector cleaning or valve cleaning or compression test, and then they're surprised it throws a rod... These engines are high compression direct injection, they run hot and dirty, they need regular maintenance.
I’m 19 and I’ve had my ms3 for for like 6 months now or a little longer and just absolutely love the car and you pointed a lot out that I’ve already noticed but cars have their quirks but to me it doesn’t really take a lot away from it I wouldn’t say it’s my dream car but it’s definitely one of them that I always wanted to own
I have a stock 2010 gen2 speed 3 and I really agree with you. Mechanicaly mine is in top shape but I didn’t notice before 2 or 3 month after buying it that the paint was trashed I need to repaint my roof, my hood and my backdoor so basically the entire car and it is in white pearl and this paint is so damn expensive and hard to do I need to go to a bodyshop even if im really decent in car painting because this paint is very easy to fail and the car will just look ugly has hell this is a 5000$ CAD dollar if not more and I don’t have that kind of money and the damage look too much to just wrap over it
Engineering is like a blanket... if you pull it you cover your face but leave your feet uncovered, and the other way around “Can’t launch on the MPS” (the horror 🤣) that’s because the engine’s output is lost the least, same for “torquesteer” (buy the civic, or golf then 😚) Weight is a function of how much torque can the chassis withstand before bending... enough said And any other ignorance spewed here would be in this order... Guys: ask the people who know before spewing nonsense you hear at car meets... even girls know something 😎
I have a speed 3 2010 at 63000 km, its my DD both sunmmer, and rough winter a bit more northern part of Québec, you can get a used mazdaspeed 3, for lets say same mileage, years, and overall health than a civic si, wrx, GTI and cost WAY less, even the SI would be a lot more expensive in that case, but they are EVERYWHERE, literaly every street corner and the more late it is at night, the louder they get haha, while Speed3, ive only seen 5-7 different owner in a 11 000 squares KMs
The car will oversteer with a good allightment and a good tires like Yokohama A052's. Good tires should be the first upgrade, totally changes the car even stock!
I so hope that i wouldn't agree with you but sometimes I feel exactly the same way. But... Show me a nicer looking car with a better sound system and I consider selling mine =)
Helpful vid. I just blew the turbo in mine bought a cts4 turbo from corksport but do I need a tune because I’m changing to the cts4 turbo ? I don’t have a hpfp but I plan on getting one soon
I would keep it stock turbo if you have little to no mods. But yes you would need a tune 100% for upgraded turbo. Start from stg 1-3 mods then worry about the turbo lol
I just bought a 1st gen & 2nd gen speed3s few months ago and not gonna lie there really funn the 2gen came with a few mods maybe a bigger turbo or tune not sure but it had two top cylinder walls blown, got that welded & sanded down now it runs hella strong….. 1st gen had the same thing but on the ‘heads’ also got them welded & surfaced no mods came with it sadly but hoping to get a cst4 since stock one it going out also runs great btw i came from s/c cammed v8s & infinity hr engines but these 4 bangers banggg if you ever come across one!
You want the best and most accurate description of a Mazdaspeed then ask Scotty he will tell you all the ins and outs while wildly flailing his arms and poking spots for his Toyota. But he knows and he is honest. LOL
It's funny that most do a big deal because you need to know your shit before doing any mods. I found that's It's one of the fun parts. I started didn't know shit about the car now i know more then the average joe and it's just fun stuff to learn and when you know ur stuff you know exactly what to do yo keep it reliable. I agree that's it's not for everyone that just want to through parts at it and rip it. In general it's a real fun car for the right owner. If you want more traction get min some 255 you will notice a huge difference in traction. Can't put 300hp+ on 225 you might as well put some bicycle tire on it lol
Maintenance is key. I love my Gen1 07 Gt did VVT at 100k upgraded Mounts tmic internals and my daily with a baby tune 157k original turbo no smoke. Maintenance is key and don't think it is a race car. I dont do alot if any real standing pulls mostly rolls and dont boost under 3.5k rpm and you should be just fine.
@Mr. Clean what power are you pulling out of that ? , can't be stock and parts would have to be custom made parts as there would hardly be any aftermarket for these yet .
I hate that our MS3s look so freaking beautiful. Makes me want to throw money into it, but the cars don’t modify well enough to justify the costs, sadly.
Yo, I’m getting a 2013 Mazda Speed 3 with cork sport exhaust Stock engine, unknown high pressure fuel internals. Unknown previous access port installation or tune. Is this worth it? Is there a problem running aftermarket exhaust system with no tune?? , Turbo seems fine no smoke. Please get back to me
I know why you can't get traction and it's not just because its fwd , I have watched your other videos and suspension needs setting up properly. It will be a comprise like all thing's but you will notice the difference in traction.
I use mine for deliveries, 2013 skyactive manual , it’s never going to be fast. It’s zippy and that’s it. Going to put red race line coils for less body roll and slightly lower stance. I push it hard in corners. Maybe change the rear stabilizer bar. Do the coils first the. I will see. Oddly enough my 02 Marquis pulls harder then this car. My 05 3.0r Subaru kills both of them. However is a diva 👩🎤 and likes to break a lot. For hard pulls I rely on 07 stage2 Harley Sporty (bought used $3,300) hits 120mph no problem. If you want to go fast and be sketch find a used 90’s Cobra for under 7k. Which is what I will probably do unless I find c5 corvette for the same cost. 🤷🏽♂️
Can you do some runs against a FBO veloster N? Would love to see it, and would love for you to drive one and give your thoughts about it! I own one and love it! I dont see a lot of them around or speeds in my area :(
Your MS3 is bad bro! I really enjoy my car. 2nd owner previous owner had quit a few mods but all done right and takin care of Your over thinking brother!
If you wanted a track car you should have bought a rwd no understeer like fwd. I just got a mazda speed 3 2012 with 82k miles bone stock technology package so shit is awesome
Let me tell you I blew a hole in my piston I got a new motor and got a turbo already had the access port bought the internals and a tune cost me about 2200
The mazda speed 6 which i have is a competitor for Suby's, Evo's and so on. The 3 is a hot hatch and it is what it is. Get a 6 MPS if you want a handling car dude...
6 minutes in and everything you've said is either highly subjective or wrong. whyd you buy fwd? you know you cant launch a wrx over and over right? you're comparing this to an sti.. idk any clean reliable sti's for 15k or under.. even 20. then hondas and evos etc, when in reality a msp3 competition are gti/focus or fiesta st veloster turbo etc. then you go on to say tuning gains are shit compared to subaru/evo/git etc. Like what? 2k in parts on pretty much all those cars will net you similar gains.. no 2.5l stage 2 wrx is walking a stage 2 speed3.. maybe you're talking about the newer 2.0l wrx which responds much better to mods but again.. $20k plus when speed 3's are around 10-15k on the high end. And evos... don't even get me started, entirely different class of car at an entirely different price point. nothing clean & unmodded exists in the evo world for under 20k. you're comparing every 4cyl turbo econocar to a mid 2000s mazda 3 hatch with a turbo slapped on it. Its mean to be 1. practical 2. quick and 3. reliable and it achieves all those fairly well.
had to come back to finish the video. You're calling this car stressful to own basically because 1. its fwd and 2. most used examples are molested af.... that literally only peaks on you and nobody else. owning a 80k mileage stock gen 1 isn't stressful at all, its great. youre views are so fucking odd
I just bought I 04 mazda3 n its all factory except like small stuff like headlights taillights n few lil things so glad I didn't put no mods on the motor just exhaust. But its the car I wanted for years but after watching vids think I got lucky it only had 80k miles when I bought it but thinking bout trading it for a Nissan or Honda just because keep hearing so much bad stuff bout these cars....
@@dallonebmeyer9902 should looked up first year so u think any of the newer years will fit or u think its more of a headache..I appreciate any input I get a lot people say it will hurt the car more than help..
