@@LumbardiYT In the video you made it seem as if it wasn't cast randomly! My dude the person who cast them just walked in a shop and said to the future actors wanna be in a TV show? Actually yeah a lot of thought went into that😏
Same as a French person. I remember some boys in my school in France fitting this pretty well. The Inbetweeners are basically a version of all our teenage years. I refuse to watch the US version, because it would spoil the much better UK one.
The OG inbetweeners series was crafted around British culture and stereotypes. It was perfectly moulded to be a British show, and the US show just tossed that in the trash and made a garbage fire.
American Jay: Believes everything he says, pathological liar, already got his answer ready because in his head, it's happening. There's literally no other reason or any further layer to his character motivation. British Jay: When he's asked a question, you see him scrambling around for an answer, trying to think of these things on the spot because he has such a desperate need to be admired which is completely understandable when we see how his dad is. That's what makes Jay so endearing. The scene near the beginning here sums it up. American: "How do you do it best? "Deep, right up to the balls" - He believes it and thinks no more of it British: "How do you do it best?" "Errrr....Ya know....Deep.....Right up to the balls!" - You see the moment where the lightbulb in his head goes on and he thinks up that answer and then you sense a subtle amount of pride in himself for doing so.
Yes, that's great insight, you're right. Really good example. That's so much to do with James Buckley's performance. He found the nuance. He found the subtlety. He also gave Jay vulnerability, which is why we loved him and just found the US Jay a potentially dangerous creep.
There's like no emotion with the US character as well, like you can see uk jay is passionate about lying and trying to impress people with the delivery of his lines like "I'm really good at shagging now, that's all I'm saying!" vs US Jay who just throws it out there with no emphasis or emotion whatsoever "I'm so good at sex now"
I find this with a lot of American shows. The dumb characters only personality trait is to be dumb. The funny one can only be unserious in all situations. The leader can never fall short. It just makes the shows so unentertaining.
Notice the difference in the lighting too, the British version looks dull and that gives a raw feel which makes it believable but the American version is always shot at the lightest time of day, it's bright, it's vibrant, it's colourful and it just looks like another generic, 9verly polished, idealistic American show
@@zapkvr utter bullshit my arse, even Ricky Gervais has come out himself and says he prefers it, more heart, more development and more laughs, better all round 👍
@@VillagerCentral yeah sure he has. And he panders to the HFPA every year so he gets invited back for the golden globes. IF he said it (and I doubt it) he was being ironic. And of course the yanks didn't get the joke.
With Mr. Gilbert, it also helps that Greg Davis was previously Head of Drama at a school before he was a comedian. He knows how to be intimidating also as he is giant. 🤣
every one of the British characters is a believable and somewhat likeable person. American TV is kind of allergic to realistic cringe traits and even basic flaws in their media personalities. They also use music to imply what emotion you are supposed to be feeling.
British show is funny, relatable cringe. American show is painful cringe, cringing at how bad the show is and feeling embarassed for the actors, writers and everyone involved in the production. Their careers are probably doomed.
@@redcoatgaming4141 I wasn’t referring to the 60s movies, there was someone in recent years who wanted to make Doctor Who into a movie franchise and got told no.
@@stevensheath8992 hate the current doctor run so I would say go for it. America can remake British TV and do it well they just have to care and understand the source.
I think Mr Gilbert is one of the biggest crimes in the US version. One of the things I find so funny about UK Gilbert is that he’s *terrifying*. He’s so comically intimidating and has so much power in his job, and contrasting with Will being overly cheery and sucking up to him is hilarious. But in the US version, that dynamic doesn’t exist. Gilbert is so poorly cast, he doesn’t feel more “powerful” or intimidating, he feels like a stereotypical alcoholic teacher. He doesn’t feel above Will, he just feels like a bit of a dick. It’s awful
UK Gilbert: Intimidating man anyway, demands a respect from the pupils whilst clearly being world weary of their sh*t, sarcastic US Gilbert: idk drunk?
@@cheekbonestrenchcoat US Gilbert looks like a nonce. Greg Davies was a teacher so, the reason why he was so good was because he used his past experience.
The issue is America copying British comedy and then throwing their own warped spin on it. They can make their own comedy decent enough but its when they butcher our stuff its cringe.
It's one of those weird nuances to language. They mean the same thing in essence but "fit" just does work better. Probably cause it's a far more British thing lol
I liked the first few seasons of Shameless, a few great actors really made it! A few years ago though, it went full 'orange man bad' in every scene from nowhere!
im in my 30s and the uk inbetweeners was exactly like being at my school. i think it must be the same for anyone, at any british school. the casting and interactions were incredible. you put out a great video
@@timothyreuscher8511 to be fair, we try and copy your pop music, which we’ve somehow managed to make even worse 😄 It’s a pity we don’t churn out the incredible musicians like we used to.
@@ID-pw8zb I'm dying for another British invasion like The Beatles and The Monkees. There also needs to be another wave of British metal bands. I've grown up with plenty of British programming, in courtesy of PBS.
As an American I can say the British Inbetweeners is the best sitcom ever... I was lucky enough to be stationed over in England when the 2nd movie premiered and I absolutely loved it...now 8 years later I watch the entire series and both movies at least twice a year
Yer talking about a country that for many years had to watch the original Mad Mad dubbed with American sounding voices, because apparently Australian English is too much of a foreign language for the rest of my countrymen.
One huge misstep was toning down the bad language. Inbetweeners was a huge hit because the language was so foul it was shocking even to Brits. It made the crudeness fly because it was the sort of thing you heard in pub toilets but never on television.
The Will crying-bullying scene got a slight chuckle in my throat - because nobody does that. It’s so interesting to see how realistic the original is, and how lazy the US version is.
I am British but have hardly watched In Betweeners. My impression is that the characters are finely-crafted, exaggerated versions of real teenagers we all knew at school. It's funny because the exaggerations are relatable in some way. The context is absolutely essential.
I think part of the reason Greg Davies was so effective is because he was a teacher before doing comedy, so he knows the kind of authority for the job. Plus he taught English and Drama, so was knowledgable in fields relating to acting too. The Inbetweeners was my first time encountering him, but thanks to other shows, some panel shows, some of his stand up, and a lot of Taskmaster, he's one of my favourites to watch these days.
@@G_unit25 That's why i didn't list it. Early episodes are classic, but went on too long. Some of later ones quite unfunny. Spoils the overall quality of the product.
The "fit mom" scene: It's not just the awful "renob" stuff that makes it cringe. In the UK version Will's mom is sat in the car, she looks just like a typical, more attractive then some but still normal, mom. In the US version she looks more like a model, gets out of the car and has the wind doing the hair flip thing as if to go "yes look, woman hot". It just fails so badly to convey that same feel
I feel like the American cast/writers don't understand comedic timing. The british actors/writers absolutely nail it. Also, the american cast don't, at any point, feel like mates. You can imagine the british cast actually being bessies outside of the show, regardless of if they were or not.
It reminds me a lot of the first few episodes of The Office US, where the plot and dialogue more or less matched the first few episodes of The Office UK, and even with the great casting and direction that show had, it just didn't work. They soon realised that and went completely their own way with it, and the result was, I think, genuinely better than the original in many ways. If you did that with Inbetweeners, it just wouldn't be Inbetweeners anymore, which is why I think this project was always destined to fail
It shows that it's possible but you need to adapt to your audience. UK office is VERY targeted humour designed for people specifically in that area, whereas US one seems to appeal to more people.
Grumpy jr and his mates went on holiday to Magaluf. He said it was best if I didn't watch the Inbetweeners Movie 'til after he got back , didn't want me to worry apparently.
The only thing I like about the American Inbetweeners is the theme song, I really like the theme. That has more to do with the fact that it’s OK Go than anything to do with the Inbetweeners. I was lucky enough to discover the UK Inbetweeners on Netflix before I saw the American Inbetweeners (I’m American) when I was like 13 and I actually started using a lot of British slang and terms from the show.
Your dedication is admirable...I'm afraid I could only stomach half of your vid... It wasn't you, it was the content you discussed. FYI: I was in the social stratum below The Inbetweeners... Yeah.
Since when did the US manage to come even close to replicating a British tv program without fucking it up? Most of their comedy seems to be directed at 6 - 10 year olds. The few that actually cater for a more adult audience are usually written by Canadians so I'm told.
I’m an American who watched The UK version so many times and after I saw the second movie and I wanted a filler so I tried out The US version and it was just awful. The UK worked for so many reasons such as Simon Bird playing Will, he was perfectly casted and The UK version was very relatable while The US just didn’t feel relatable
The main thing that made Greg Davies perfect was that he towered over everyone. The US one is shorter than Neil. It's like they took literally everything that made the original great, then deliberately avoided it.
I think they missed the concept of the show, it’s meant to talk about teenage life, which from what I’ve seen is very different between both the UK and the US, if they changed the show and adapted it so we had a look at US teenage life instead of the US trying to imitate UK teenage life then it could’ve worked well
Exactly, they tried to copy British humour, which just didn't work at all because it was an American show. So poorly executed. No wonder it got cancelled after one season
As an American, I feel there was no need to remake the UK version for any reason to make it relatable. Even with the differences in culture I connected with it and never felt out of place. Same can be said about This Is England, my favorite series (movie + miniseries).
Ngl, when I first started watching I thought you were just gunna rip off JackWolf, but you did a good job and touched on completley different points. I like it :) Nice to watch one with good audio too :p
The problem is that American humour is about exaggeration and British humour is about relatability. So when you take a British show and apply American humour to it, you get an unwatchable mess.
I think this perfectly illustrates that execution is key. You could have an almost perfect script, but if the actors don't pull off the emotional range they need to, and the direction is poor, then your product will be terrible Not that this show has anything near good writing, but considering some scenes like you mentioned are shot for shot remakes with slight changes, yet still don't land, shows how hard comedy actually is to pull off
Thanks man! Nah they cancelled it after one season due to low ratings. However, I now have access to every episode of the US version, so I'm tempted to make a part 2 👀
@@LumbardiYT you should do man! That would be pretty cool 😂 I would have thought this video would have got more views I ended up searching for this and yours was the first one i clicked
Super Bad was the US version of the Inbetweeners, but done right for a US audience. Kinda like how Summer Heights High was something that Australian's could relate to.
Just goes to show how different American culture and UK culture is. I remember going to watch Aladdin in New York on a University trip, which I loved and illustrated our differences perfectly. We all booed/hissed when Jafar came on stage to evil music, because thats very pantomime-esque here in the UK. That resulted in quite a few filthy looks from people watching. But then it was fine for them to cheer, whoop and go crazy showing how much they were enjoying the performance... There were also some jokes that the Americans thought were hilarious and we didnt really understand.
This video is spot on. American Inbetweeners was just so cringe. Did you watch Shameless back in the day mate? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on the American remake of that. I actually thought a few seasons of it were quality. They seemed to have a lot more direction with the way they went about it tbf. I think they did try to replicate some scenes word for word, but generally it came across as original to me.
It was a good effort in my opinion, they made enough adaptations that it worked, most the actors did a great job, I mean the Steve actor had to compete with McAvoy so not his fault. Only character who disappointed was Lip, he was very laid back but just didnt have that cheeky clever smartarse vibe UK one had.
