UK Muslims, Elections and the Power of Nightmares with Peter Oborne 

MAKE A THIRD PARTY: MUSLIM BASED just like the christian liberals have the right, and the apostate christians have the left

two good man

first time on this channel. i hear the book "why the west is wrong abt islam". i do consider myself in some ways islamophobic hence the title intrigued me. but i'd like to know if Mr.Oborne identifies as a muslim himself. if he does then the read will only result in a regurgitation of muslim ideas and i'll be discouraged to read it.

One aspect of Sunak's attitude can be seen as reverting to type. We can't forget the way muslims are seen and being treated in India and of course the question of Kashmir. He's behaving more like an Indian than someone with the British sacrality of fair play. Surely this sense of justice, the pride and dignity of being British cannot be trampled on. A prime minister needs to share, if not personify, the main tenet of the people he leads. Even people whose first language isn't English, use the expression "fair play" with respect. How can we throw out what has always been the shining light of Britishness. Any citizen can disagree or have their own ethic, but NOT the leader of the country, surely.

@thelaststraw1467 have you found out if Oborne is a Muslim?

WE NEED ACTION NOT PRETTY SPEECHES ...

​@@beammeup8458we need both

Most Tories preach conservatism. Peter Oborne understands conservatism.

I disagree with you.

​@@grahamt5924Oborne is that rare example of a former Tory whose intellect and conscience have overcome his political bias. He simply looks at the facts and can see the forces at work which have been working against the national interest.

He's a tory so no principles but he does have integrity...

Democracy….. ahhh. Don’t you just LOVE IT ! ? A land where government DOES what the people actually WANT & NEED ! Oh dear…You NEVER had that mate. NEVER will. BECAUSE…You have the WRONG political system. Maybe it was a good idea 300 years ago, but not for today nor tomorrow. It generally attracts the wrong sort of people for a start!. I mean, just look at their schoolyard behaviour where “point scoring” put-downs of other elected members of parliament is considered a “win”! Essentially most of them are “bully salesmen” who try to persuade and bribe you, that ONLY THEIR ideas are great (vote for MEEEE). Sadly, ALL parties do the same - Was designed to be like that !! The notion that ALL the PEOPLE HAVE CLEAR NEEDS is not even considered!!. Another childhood dream is that “Competition” yields the best results! This has some truth, but only in the very short term!. COOPERATION YIELDS THE BEST CONTINUOUS SUSTAINABLE IMPROVEMENTS. JUST PROGRESS LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE Establish a national “Register of Visions” summarising the Will of the People. (Health, Housing, Education, Employment, Crime & Safety, Drugs, Immigration, Taxation, Societal Cohesion, Foreign Affairs, Welfare, Trade & Industry, etc etc ). A register Established at census time for each Voter - with real-time Web access for timely updates like Gaza, Ukraine etc etc ad nauseam. And don’t worry, AI will make short work of creating a succinct coherent unambiguous statement of requirements from the millions of Vision submissions! Certainly a BETTER WAY for the Nation. (Unless of course you are already part of the 1% thriving/thieving elite , then yes, you will experience a relative decline in your unwarranted privilege, decadence and legalised theft!). At the moment, China looks remarkably democratic when compared with you lot !

@micheleLLOYD, Good comment , which I would like to share , and expand on.

@@mcounlall9042 I would love to share and discuss. The “formula” is simple.

Muslims needs to make a long term plan to fight these (not very new)secterian social engineering project designed and executed by the” you know who they are” this is a very long therm project. You got to prepare yourself. Get married early and make plenty of children. Immensely invest higher education for your children, better position yourself in the social spectrum . If necessary change your names to attract less attention to known part of the xenophobic groups. Be more humble and charitable to create better image against your rivals. this is a long struggle and I am sure you people will succeed at the end.

You have no clue how our system works do you? It'll achieve nothing.

​@jim-es8qk you change nothing with your opinion

​Yes they do. Don't vote for people that have policies against your beliefs. If that means tories win again so be it. Labour will then have to adopt our policies if they want to win. That's exactly how it works... 😳🙄​@@jim-es8qk

Haha.. Then labor will crackdown on immigration lol

Aint that just because he panders to Islamists. Ptere thinks Islamists are bigger underdogs than Gays and Apostates whose blood they bay for. The fact that while he one time supported Brexit, Boris Johnson, Ayatollah Khomeini and Trump (but did a u-turn later) shows how prone to judgemental he is.

@@deepsareen1 Why do you think someone who thinks and then changes their mind having seriously thought is somehow to be criticised? Not that you are being clear about this in your odd comment but normally u-turn is a phrase used when sneering. BTW what do you mean by "prone to judgemental"?? I can't work it out.

@@myla6135 To change the mind to exact opposite and atlesat three times in less than 8 years on such major issues is rather unsuual or kinda "be hurried up" in making up mind about complex things. Hence the world judgemental. Hope it helps you get my POV.

All engineered.

He's a tory. He's correct on this but he is a tory...

There were Tories with some principles. There were Englishmen standards. However, they are nearly extinct.

You mean support Islamic concepts like Polygamy, child marriages, FGM, half inheritance and credibility, wife beatings and no leadership roles for women and death for Gays, blasphemers and Apostates.

I hope Andrew Feinstein is successful - defeat Starmer

This is not coincidental, this is all planned for a social engineering project by certain section of the “you know who” objective is “we will see in the near future “

​​@@littlechestnutorchardyep, all planned. Don't be naive as seeing things fallen at their places randomly at the same time. There's no coincidences in deep state politics.

Sunak doesn’t care about RSS…..give me any evidence that he does. He only cares about money and his opportunity

Sunak's paternal grandfather was from Gujranwala (in present-day Pakistan. while his maternal grandfather was from Ludhiana (in present-day India, both cities at the time were in Punjab province, British India. His grandparents migrated to East Africa, and then to the United Kingdom in the 1960s

What are you smoking - he is a transnational elite - he isnt from anywhere and is loyal to who owns him…relying on ethnicity went out 1000’s of years ago

Go back to sleep Fatima……Sunak doesn’t care about RSS, it’s all about money and power

Dont forget Sturgeon and whatever the welsh loon is called

Awesome comment.

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Douglas is effectively a Zionist propagandist at this point, he has a very fixed point of view.

Its not a stance he is an owned sockpuppet who reads,the script provided his stance is pretending to be an intellectualand sort of patriot

how do you perceive murray as intelligent he has some plausible conservatism but then he's just a loony muppet...

Sorry, I'm all for free speech but .... Douglas Murray is just too revolting to listen to

I totally lost it when she was positive about Pol Pot!

None of the state we are in would be if Thatcher was around. She was an excellent PM despite her faillings

It really was wasn't it. I'm not usually a Podcast fan, but I was hooked from the start. Great guest & superb interviewer. The idea that the independent Islamic candidates were the real patriots is so true & a very important insight. PR with diverse parties is essential for our multicultural society, not least to avoid entryism, Manchurian candidates (eg: Helen Whately ex McKinsey & Company), minority capture (eg: ERG etc) & government by lobbyists (eg: Tufton St). Subscribed

He has appeared on moats a number of times with George Galloway

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Exactly! And I don't even believe in God but I agree. Times are awfully hard but not as hard as it is for Palestinians so if we have to put up with them we will. At least Labour will learn to adopt anti genocide policies then...

You are delusional. Labour/Tory same thing

@@TessTearoe-zp5xv I think you misunderstood, I didn't say I would vote for them

Dont be daft it isnt a democracy and it was never ours

He is though. He's right about Palestine but he said some rapey shit. He would think it's OK for Israeli soldiers to have sex with a sleeping Palestinian woman. He literally said that's OK. Well men can do that to women he said its bad ettiquete not rape...

I would argue most western leaders today have the same moral as Donald Trump. They believe in winners and loosers. Peace is achieved by war (destroying the opponent), not by negotiation/mutual respect. Unike Trump, they use nice words like democracy and freedom, but their actions are the same = brutal force to get their will.

That's a terrible thing tho although it's not true. It's like thinking everyone in Africa is the same culture and ethnicity because they have black skin. Lots of multi cultured societies in the continent of Asia... You're just seeing the same skin colour and assuming their the same ethnicity with your white supremacist views of ethnicity. It's like claiming Polish and English have the same culture because they're both white. You're actually a racist but don't realise it... 🙄😳

Your dna could be closer to someone from Asia than someone from where you was born. Perhaps learn what dna actually is? There's more dna differences between black skinned people in Africa than there is between some black skinned people and white skinned people. Like do you know anything? I'm guessing you're white? 😉

It's easier to integrate when the society has not completely lost its moral and ethical moorings.

Not sure about that but chances are you are a jahil TLP supporter from Pakistan

Green who called pro Palestine supporters antisemites and said we weren't welcome in their party? How do you know what you get with the greens? They shit the bed when we had a real prospect of a pro Palestine PM...

Sorry brother, but this is a rather simplistic view of what the independent movement is about.

Green and independent.

The same place all the former Labour Party members and traditional Labour supporters go. New party. It would be disastrous for Muslims to allow the country to be divided along religious lines, as it would play right into the hands of Israel and its allies. It isn't all about one group.

@kayedal-haddad9294 To Afghanistan; the near-perfect sharia compliant nation that just defeated the only superpower of world and regained their freedom. Who does not like that ?

@@deepsareen1 Off you go then.

Workers party of Britain