UK vs SPAIN: Why I Prefer Living in SPAIN | Nigerian Living in Spain | Flo Chinyere 

Nne m, home is the ultimate destination ooo. ❤🌹❤ Jisike.

Yes, there is no place like home 💚

Do you sometimes think moving back home?

I am planning to move norway.you will advice that?

Norway is too cold, i don't like cold weather... That's true UK is an Island, i even that if there are beaches in that UK. Uk don't have good weather, I will not like to move there, i might move to the south of France...

That high tax band in the UK pained me, eh?

I recommend to stay away from a country that hurt you so much. Instead of going in a holiday to Spain, you should go to the U.S.A. I highly encourage you to visit the South, you will feel at home.

These comparison videos are always difficult because whatever opinion you express, they will be based on your personal experience and everybody’s experience is different. Outside my birth country, UK is the only other country I have lived in and I’ve never really felt the need to move out of the UK. Home is where your heart is indeed and UK is my home

same thing with italy my dear

Dont come after ur experience please.

Is better you retire in Africa than West. Find a good country in Africa to retire.

Good to hear that the hospitals are top notch from someone who works there. Everything I said in this video is based on my experience not hearsay and I did issue a disclaimer that I did not use the health service that much. This is my experience as a patient and this perspective is very important too because we are the receivers of the service a.k.a the customers. And I did not generalize. It's impossible for me to sample every location in a country before sharing my experience. 😂 Experiences will always be based on where the person lived.

Still a nice place. I would really love moving into either country

@@livinghealthierandhappier Why are you taking it personal? the video was met to educate people objectively. watch the video ones again so u understand more

@@orukpe1 He is not taking it personal. He has said the truth. Flo has some personal beef too about UK. It shows in her presentation.

@@toppygeorge1346 well that is what i perceive. The problem people have with the presentation is that, Uk lovers dont want to hear anything negative about UK. I think people need to be matured to engage in debate , before they come online. At the moment am not seeing that maturity.

London is one of my favourite tourist destinations. I just hope and pray it falls into those 3 days of sunshine. My kids were like "Mummy do they even have summer here?" 😂 when I took them to London. It was drizzling and overcast in the middle of summer, so much that we had to go everywhere we wanted to go to like that. They could not understand the rainy summer. I and my colleagues used to go into London almost every weekend like tourists.

If we don’t work ourselves to death in this do called good healthcare system most of this wear and tear to the body could be limited, you will not be needing the hospitals or NHS as much; yes there is something life work balance I will not mention any country as I live in one of them and also walk the hospital floors as a clinician. Sis. Flo I do agree with you that life and work need balance. Me I don tire who wan com make him come , home na home . Let me go and enjoy our organic foods and some rest life is too short ,can you imagine no breaks during the holidays you just get off the day and back the next. I beg make una leave me biko. My view pls.

I've never been to Dallas but Houston is a Naija extension. 😂👍Nigerians have taken over that city and one can find even the most traditional Nigerian ingredients at the farmers markets there.

Houston is like Naija West. Really cool people migrated to the states through Texas in the 80's, Thanks to Hakeem Olajuwon.

SO GOOD AS ALWAYS. GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOU WILL WATCH THE VIDEO IF WE MAKE. I LIVE HERE IN ISRAELI SO I WILL COMPARE ISRAEL WITH NIGERIA. HMMM. NWANNEM NWAYI ÓKWA GI BU INSPIRATION MU JI BIDO IFEA. NEBARAM ANYA. BIKO NWAYIOMA😄

@@FloChinyere True, I have them all of the Nigerian grocers mapped out. I only learned West African years ago, but in Houston, I can try out anything.

Please tell her o🤣

So true! I live in Italy and even Italians themselves are leaving for better opportunities!

@@elledumble Ofcourse, their economy no strong.

Nneka you too? You did not get the tap opening joke? I'm disappointed.

Please guys its only some parts of England ie London that has all the bubbles of UK have you visited other countries of UK,wales,Scotland,N.Ireland?

Nne m ooo. We did not come to this world to work and die. Spain teaches us that! You will become comfortably sufficient! Let's release that statement right now! 🙌🙌🙌

@@FloChinyere AMEN and AMEN nwannem💝

Exactly

Just the word I was looking 4. we do not come to this world to work and die.

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Yes o. The Scandinavian countries rank high in the happiness index. They are rich countries with low population so it's easy to carry everyone along.

@@FloChinyere right

@@FloChinyere Nigeria is over populated! That’s why the government can not satisfy it’s citizens

@@folashadelawal7878 That's not why o.

@@folashadelawal7878 has Nigeŕian government try to even satisfy its citizen? Please stop making excuse for irresponsible government.

❤ to you both.

You are very correct about the Spanish people. I lived in Colombia before I moved to US. I loved colombia. They are all same, very family oriented, loving people, food so cheap and lifestyle na no stress. They don't joke with their family vacations. I was a teacher there and my salary was more than enough for me.

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Am telling u🤣🤣

Wetin them know for nija lol

Am telling u if its not America and UK it will look wired to them

@@LadyCkitchen if you don't live in any of these three, they won't rate you. 😂🤣😂

@@FloChinyere mama flo ikegwuru 😊

I don't know in which country you had the bad experiences about Nigerians not having each other's back. I have come to know that Nigerians are generally helpful to each other at least in central Europe. I have heard positive stories of people showing new people the way once they arrive: in Germany, the Netherlands ... Here in Spain, once we hear that a new person is in town (sometimes the charitable associations send them to our meeting because it is registered), we invite the person to our meeting and give him/her general guidance, how to settle in, where to submit CVs end give accommodation to those who need it. Some people will also put in a good word for the person at their places of work. Also, the good thing is that in developed countries, all the information is available to the person. Once one overcomes the language barrier (where applicable), the person will have access to that information. Maybe I am saying this because while I welcome all extension of a helping hand when I am in a new place, I do not feel entitled to it. I ask questions where necessary and I usually get the answers I need or a nudge in the right direction. Only a few people will hold your hands and guide you 100% in a new place unsolicited, most likely your family members that already live in the place. This does not mean that the rest are bad people, everyone is busy living their own lives and some people just don't want to impose their guidance on you so they wait for you to ask first.

If you are considering living in a foreign country I would focus on growing a backbone and not being so fragile. Black people are a minority in the west, that is perfectly reasonable, it is not our native land, so expect to be an outsider but don't take it as a 'microaggression' when people are just exhibiting curiosity. Not having a chip on your should about not being white does wonders for eliminating these 'micro aggresions'.

@@FloChinyere the country I had bad experience is located south east europe. African migrants experiences in central europe is very different from eastern european. Countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria...africans typical get the third class citizenship treatment similarly to the one Badmus Ololade Rafiate recieved. Despite that, migrants are undeterred because these countries offer cheaper living cost and low university fees for skilled migrants and students.

@@wordsbymaribeja1470 I find it laughable, the arrogance that am an outsider by these same western european countries, built on colonialism and imperialism. How are loaded questions like where are you "really" from? or when did you last visit home? expressing curiosity? Being prickly does not mean having a a chip on your shoulder. From my experience the convert bullies and 'micro-aggressors' often target the peaceful type who wants to be everyones friend.

Awww 😭😭😭

Italy is the best,🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹❤

That's true, We went to UK in july 2018, if you see the heavy rain that started to fall as we were about to enter the circle ( London eye ) we rush to take refuges in the nearby macdonarld...

It's true there's something special about spain, portugal, italy, croatia. Spain is very different to live than the UK, and I prefer it, but if you're less interested in making lots of money and want the free things to do its nice

Flo what advise can you give to a would-be immigrant who intend to come to Spain for the first time through France? Please guide honestly

i will welcome u

Really 🥺🥺

We are saying the same thing nowww 😂 The Spaniards will talk to you first especially when they see you are a foreigner rather than waiting for you to speak to them first. Remember that we are comparing two groups of people here so one group must come out tops. It does not mean the other group is totally bad.

Flo dear, In England there 4 seasons also, so you are incorrect with that fact🤔 I have visited Spain 4 times and each time I felt so uneasy. I felt they kept looking at us as if we were 'out of space' No Spain holidays for me anymore. 🤣

@Ijeoma Johnson GBAM!!👊Please also tell her that we have mixer taps in UK and most of the experience she shared isn't a general overview of every part of the UK o.

This is so true!

@@FloChinyere yeah that’s true .. the Spaniards are friendly than the British citizen

Really, sis pls tell me more about Scotland. Hopping to relocate to Scotland by 2022. But I'm afraid of so many things. I currently live in Finland with my family. But I'm thinking that live may be too expensive over there. I really need a close contact from that Scotland because I have so many unanswered questions.

Well done! 🙌🙌🙌

Heaven is a country?

@@victoriaoni don't mind that one abeg pepper body de worry her

And you have actually been to this "Heaven" or you are just rambling a bunch of nonsense?

You and your husband will llove Spain. ❤️ For me too, London is a great tourist destination and I would happily visit during those 3 days of summer. My kids nearly cried when we visited London. The drizzle shook them. "They don't even have summer hereeee." 😂😭

@@FloChinyere please how can I get your email please address pls

Spain is a great country. Their laid-back times peeved me, eh! 😂 I have finally gotten used to their siesta times. I just wish the corner shops will start opening at 9am too.

You might identify as racism some behaviours that are not. We are not fake like americans so we are not very open with unknown people and some say we are rude but that's just our way of speaking. Others also get incommodated when a person stares at them which is something normal here. Once you know a nice Spanish person you won't have to worry about fake friendships and in the security part, well crime rate is similar but Spanish police is way less aggresive, they almost never kill the person who should be arrested even if he/she is a murderer and has weapons.

Juan staring at people is common everywhere. In Nigeria (especially in the villages) people stare at foreigners too even try to talk to them and it's not a bad thing. I don't know why some people see it as a bad thing. It's more often than not, admiration.

@@FloChinyere I have seen some American culture shock videos and they get extremely incommodated by people staring at them and sometimes when the color of their skin is different they say it is racist so that is why I said it. I think is curiosity for the uncommon thing in most cases and people might like your dress or accessories, it does not have to be stare= racist thoughts. It sometimes means it but I don't think most of the times does.

Yes, I understood you the first time. I was just trying to assure you that it's not just Spaniards that do it. Here in Spain, some people have stared at me and called me exotica especially when I make traditional Nigerian hairdos and dress up in Nigerian clothes during the summer but some people will take that the wrong way. Just like you, I see it as people staring because they are curious, they saw someone different from the people they are used to and because the Spaniards are expressive like Nigerians, they will say something to the person as well. In a place like Norway, they will rather steal glances at you and they will not talk to you because they are not as expressive. So someone visiting Norway may say that they do not stare at people because they do not make it so obvious.

@@juampisito firstly, I’m not American so I can’t speak on American culture and policing. But my own personal experiences in Spain has led me to feel it is a racist country.

Very true. I lived in Germany too

Germany is the strongest economy in Europe so I don't expect anything less from them when it comes to infrastructure. 👍 That their tuition-free university is top notch. They are really trying for international students. Yes, I heard the r*cism is bad. Sad.

I live in Germany and have visited the Uk . In my opinion you can’t compare Germany to Uk , Germany wins hands down. The quality of life here is second to none, however language barrier is the only problem I see not racism. Uk is constitutionally racist but a lot of people don’t know.

@@ogehnwaogidi2138 they don't know this because of the sheer number of blacks in the UK today. They outnumber the whites so even if whites hate blacks, you can't discriminate against them like that. But racism is still there. They should go back to the early days when blacks first started migrating to the UK and they will know that continental European countries of today are saints.

@@FloChinyere you are right, because of majority of blacks there racism is overlooked. Like I said quality of life in the Uk cannot be compared with the likes of Germany . I will admit that our problem as Nigerians is the ‘Language’ , racism is overrated in Germany and Spain .

That rent assistance sounds good. 😋😋

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There's something I love about the US too, especially southern USA. I would love to live in Florida for about a year. 🌞

My husband is English and he says the same about rat race. He adores Spain

... Perdoname....que son trabajos especiales para gente negra..?? no sé si lo he entendido bien...que diferencia hay .? ..soy española, no hace mucho que tenemos conciudadanos negros y aún no hay mucha población, por lo que en sitios pequeños pueden despertar curiosidad, como todo lo nuevo...pero no suele ser negativa, ( en mi experiencia, al menos)...España es una zona de cruce de diversos pueblos y razas y no suele haber demasiados problemas en ese sentido....En cuanto a las ciudades, solo comentaros que son muy antiguas y son así por eso, no porque estén enfocadas al turismo, eso es solo desde los años 60 del pasado siglo....es una historia y una forma de vida desarrollada desde hace siglos la que hace que todo sea así......y que todo cierre a las 2 de la tarde es por nuestros sistema de comidas y descansos pero no es que se duerma la siesta como norma...sí se come con amigos y familia, se hace sobremesa con el café y algo de charla...(.y alguno duerme siesta, sí, bueno...,) .

The environment one sees a doctor has a role to play in the healing process. A placebo effect if you will. The GP offices are dingy and I wonder if they've studied the psychological effects on the patients. But you know how it is, many people will not notice this flaw till they experience a different system. I always knew something was off about it and it took my coming here to put a finger on it.

I feel the same as a South African. I prefer to get my health check in South Africa whenever I visit. GP’s here are a waste of time.

As good as a waste of time 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

I have lived here in the UK for about 18yrs now. The GP system in the UK was better and improving until the EU citizens flooded into the UK making all systems so overstretched. Today everything including housing, transport, education and ofcourse medicals are all overstretched and down in quality.

@@victoropara6573 So, basically the Naija mentality of no maintenance! Normally as the population grows, the system should expand to accommodate and maintain for better services. Germany is in a class of its own all over Europe.

Yes, their uneducated older, usually widowed men can have their vices. Capital cities also have their own issues. Where I live, even though fewer blacks and other foreigners live here, they are very aware of foreign cultures. There are lots of cultural integration programmes organised by the local council and the aim is to use such programmes to educate and expose their people to the cultures of people living in their midst. And the turn out is always huge. 👍

@@a.muchemi4360 you seriously have an issue with me coming with a job? That's called planning. That's my own integration plan. My husband did not come to Spain with a job and he can NEVER describe Spain as horrible. It's shocking that you describe Spain as horrible yet you've been here for 20 whole years. It says a lot about you. We should stop with all this victim mentality because it holds us back. If you feel that strongly about Spain, to be honest it's better to go somewhere else. If you hate a land you live in this much, you will never make any progress. I prefer Spain but I will never describe the UK or any other place I have lived in as horrible. If you love a place, you will look for ways to push forward. Everything is about your mindset. In no country will you move to and immediately be integrated. There are so many things to do, studies, exams, qualifications and in the case of Spain, the language too. And not just speak passable Spanish, it must be high level for you to integrate into the job market and do any job you want. I speak very good Spanish but I still feel it's not enough to walk into a government office with this my level of the language and demand a job. I know young girls black girls that study nursing here. I met them at the hospital and I chatted extensively with them and they all have positive stories. The health sector is usually the hardest to break into in a new country but they are doing it! I know blacks who are into politics here and succeeding. I know first generation black immigrants whose children are doing great in sports. If you are good, you are good. Everywhere, immigrants have always had to work harder to get ahead. It's the same in the USA, UK, anywhere in the world. Nothing is handed over to you on a platter of gold. Change your circle of friends so you'll change your mindset and move ahead. Spain is trying for immigrants please. Gave most blacks papers from being illegal and eventually gave them nationality. UK cannot do that for Nigerians even though we are their ex-colony.

@Louloo it seems you do really have a problem with people from other countries living in your own country! Understandable as it is, everyone has a choice of where to live and this liberty is guaranteed under the UNCHR. It is not for you to decide where anyone chooses to reside. Also the responsibility of assent for persons to migrate to any country lies in a state and not its citizens and it is governed by certain conditions.Also the world is a global village therefore its always better to have an open mind which is endeared to acceptance of people. Besides not everyone who resides in a country which isnt their country of origin is there because they're poor or underprivileged; People move for different reasons. Also people from your own country also move to other countries for their own reasons. It's best not to have a mindsetof stereotypes. A lot of Africans are law abiding, peaceful, intelligent, resourceful, financially stable and well traveled and not all of us want to migrate abroad.

@@FloChinyere It is not a matter of changing circle of friends, that is her experience which I also experienced as a physiotherapist. I lived in Mallorca for 10 years, a lot of my friends wanted to study nursing they were not allowed. Their opinion of blacks in the balearic island is 👎. Coupled with the fact that you have to speak their local dialect Mallorquin apart Spanish, though it was not compulsory, but anything that has to do with government or official matter is communicated and written in their own dialect. My sister it was really difficult. In the UK they will get you a translator, no matter the language, as it is counted as part of your human right,but they don't send you in Spain.

@@bukaino2k if anything you should be asking me how I planned my life so perfectly before coming here. I don't know where you got your physiotherapy degree but you can't come to a country with such a degree and not practice for a whole 10 years, a decade! Then blame it on racism. If you got your degree in Nigeria, our degrees do not match up to theirs because you studied in English so you need to school here to measure up. Degrees from Equatorial Guinea measure up here because EG is their ex colony. I took a leave of absence and came to Spain on a visit visa for 6 months to test the waters. By then my husband also secured a UK work permit off mine. We had two options in case I can't integrate here work wise. I cannot come here with my Electronic Engineering degree without a plan. I loved it here and got myself a new job that would allow me live anywhere in the world before moving here. If it were impossible and my husband did not want to move to the UK, we wouldn't have married each other, it's as simple as that for me. Life moves are not random for me. I plan to the T. If you had done your research, you would have gone straight to the UK (if possible) to be honest so I don't get it when people tell me it's because I had a job. I researched and planned my life. Help yourselves people, the government of another country will not do everything for you. The government of your own country cannot even do everything for you. Even in the UK and the USA, people arrive, pack their Nigerian certificates one side, do odd jobs while they study to integrate. And I don't get what you mean by people wanted to study nursing and they were not allowed. I've met several Nigerians, either kids of first generation immigrants or wives that moved here to join their hubbies studying nursing here. I am not taking away from your experience but it's difficult for me to wrap my head around this story that this same country I live in denied people admission because they are black. Biko explain it to me. But then those 10 years sound familiar. Can I take a wild guess that without Spain you would not have ended up in the UK? 😉 If yes, then you got something worthwhile from Spain after all.

Gbam! All these Briticos are jealous. lol

Yes, so cold and can be rainy too but I'll still choose your weather over UK's. Norway has snow. ❄️ ☺️ I've spent a lot of time in Norway because that's where my first company's tech training centre is and it's my route to the North Sea. Had swell times during the winter snowsledging. And they have hot longest days during the summer. 👍

I live in Norway as well & ex slb too.

@@FloChinyere you are absolutely right! Lots of snow! And rainy days!

@@FloChinyere ahahahahah at hot longest days! Just what we are experiencing now, but not so hot, just unbelievably long days even at midnight, so bright.

Wow. Just love you guys experiences. Hope I can move someday

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Exactly. Living in the UK is good for education and jobs. Not all Nigerians can live in Spain because you have to learn Spanish And learning a new language can take up to 2 years of you are a fast learner.

You may be satisfied with living in the UK, however I think it is only someone who has lived on both sides that can really make the kind of judgement Flo is making. And I've lived in two countries in Europe as well, so I can understand her take. As long as one is satisfied with their place of residence, it is well.

Exactly. The UK is liberal and accomodating to us Africans compared to other EU countries. There are racists on every part of the world but the law is heavy on racists in the UK and that makes it better. Also lots of jobs with opportunities. Most Nigerians in Spain got their as per first entry opportunities or as stopover and then migrate to the UK once they have got their papers.

UK advanced Nigeria 😂 😂 UK is good in school because of the language English. NHS sucks. Why most English speaking African immigrants like UK is at least language is not a barrier

@@livinghealthierandhappier I think you are being rude stating that she's exaggerating. It's her opinion and she's earned the right to have one especially since she's lived in both places. Why don't you let her know how you feel about the UK without being insulting?

I love japan too but I would love to know the process of coming to Japan

You can write your social media handle I’ll add you up tank u

¡Te esperamos! 🙌

I was rotating from Mexico for 1 year. I love it.

@@FloChinyere she replied me oo💃🏼 newest fan here 💃🏼thank you

Glad you are in a place like home. 👍

She talking about Spain and london

Yes that's what I heard about the cost of living. What causes it? High tax? You guys should send some sun to ndi UK oo. They need it.

U are right

Ok

May your dreams come true.

I heard you guys can touch the sun over there. Please send some to ndị UK. 😂

@@FloChinyere We need it badly over here. Lol

@@FloChinyere how I wish 😄

Yes

You guys have very long summer days till 11pm. I love that about Norway because during my courses, I would read far into the "night" and not be tired because my brain would think it's still 3pm. And depending on where you live, in the middle of summer, it never gets dark at all. I also love the snow and the fjords. 👍 I and my colleagues would go snowsledging and on fjord cruises.

To be honest, you don't need an agent for these things. Most embassies are clear on what they need. All you need to do is follow instructions and if you qualify, you'll get it. Here's their website: www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LAGOS/en/InformacionParaExtranjeros/Pages/Visa-in-Nigeria-and-Benin-Republic.aspx And you can send an email (address at the bottom of the same page) to the consulate to ask any specific questions.

Bless you too. 🌹

Not better than Switzerland

Amen Jahbel!

Italy is their senior

That one about accent, eh! Even if one lives in the UK, why is the person expected to suddenly adopt a British accent? Yes, Britico is waking up and slowly moving with the times but these hot and cold water taps can still be found in many homes and hotels. They are still very much in existence that's why this hot and cold water tap mixer: amzn.to/3wWmWEy is selling like hot cakes on Amazon. 😂😭

@@FloChinyere Even in the US. Some older homes still have the separate hot and cold faucets. But just in the older homes that said faucets have not been renovated. I should know, my house built in the early 60s does.

@@jimmyjimmy6315 😀😀😀😀😀 imagine that...

Un saludo dsd Barcelona tio.. un abrazo dsd esta parte del mundo.. Diosnte bendiga hermano

Wow! 👍

Oh my! So sorry that you had to go through that. 🤗😌

She said it took her about 6months to learn Spanish

She said it took her about 6months to learn Spanish