Ukraine could use F-16s in major counteroffensive in 2025 | Lord Dannatt 

For disgracefulness, you may look no further than 'Moscow Marge'.

Just look what the “ SEA-BABIES “ has done in the Black Sea and the Ukrainians just threw those drones together, although Ukraine has always had a knack for producing innovative weapons systems since Soviet times .Most of their Nuclear Weapons were further developed in Ukraine and they manufactured a lot of arms. So Ukraine should never be underestimated. They seem to have the know how on how to get the job done . Going from buying cheap , inexpensive Chinese drones because they knew no other way , to 2 years later only hanging on, in their own ability to developing advanced drone technologies and producing over a million drones a year in their second year , is absolutely amazing . Had they depended on arms from the West , there wouldn’t be a UAF left !!!!

European elites also need to take responsibility for the inadequate support, it's happening in our backyard after all not the americans.

Excellent; first time i've heard a decent discussion about future naval capability.

So many Russians dying for one man....

As a dual-citizen of America/England and a republican - I am more than disgusted with the way the House held up badly needed aid for 6+ months on the Hill. However, how can Europe (who's combined economy dwarfs Russia's) cannot fill-gap while the GOP gets their heads out is a concern that needs to be discussed as much as the delay in American aid. I know finger pointing is easy, and in this case deserved, we have let our allies down and that will take time to recover from. However, there needs to also be the man in the mirror conversation as well. The GOP is in the middle of an identity crisis, how they can let someone like Trump be their nominee (again), I just cannot understand - and I am a republican. With that said Europe does not spend enough of their GDP (as a whole, there are exceptions) to be able to protect Europe and that needs to be discussed as well. I am proud the UK is upping defensive spending to 2.5%, but let's be honest - it is not nearly enough.

Wise words. Ukraine pays for the west's slow motion.

Ukraine is using 50 year old Soviet tanks to its advantage. The Lepard 1 is the same age and similar to the M 60. The US has hundreds of 50 year old M-60 tanks in storage that could be put to good use in Ukraine at no cost to the US taxpayer. Ukrainian mechanics could be brought in and trained while getting these tanks into usable condition. Once running they could be turned over to a crew for training, this would serve as a breaking in period allowing for mechanical problems to be found early. Crews that excelled would become the trainers so that in a short time only a skeleton crew of US military would be required thus reducing cost to the US and preparing Ukraine to assume these tasks. As seen with the Leopard tank simpler design can have advantages on Ukraine’s battlefields allowing for local repairs. The M-60 saw heavy combat in the 1991 Gulf War in Kuwait. While the battlefield has changed, and the tank has repeatedly been written off it keeps coming back. In order to provide survivability, it will take tanks on the battlefield to develop the proper countermeasures in order to survive today's threats. We know from WW II that to be effective it takes a lot of tanks the Sherman was not the best tank but the quantity on the battlefield meant the odds were 2 or 3 to one. There are also thousands of Armored Personnel Carriers, Fuel Trucks and support vehicles setting in storage rusting away send them to Ukraine.

It is also disgraceful that the UK and EU have not done more.

Might!!

I hope some kind of peace deal can be agreed before then, to save both Ukrainian & Russian lives.

Why does everyone ignore the fact there was hardly any intetuption in aid from the US? The final tranche, of $300 million, from the previous presidential drawdown authority arrived in march of this year. Up till then, they were still receiving arms shipments regularly, and those arms shipments resumed weeks ago. Ukraine has been struggling since july and losing ground since october. More money and weapons isn't gping to win them the war.

“Cloaking devices” !!!

And where was the UK and EU's extra 60 billion to fill the gap? This catastrophe is entirely European in origin, and everyday Americans hear this cowardly scapegoating the less inclined we are to save Europe from itself - again.

Hr didnt get the memo

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What counter offensive?

There was another war that didn’t turn out with the desired results it was called the Vietnam war, politics need to be involved in order to obtain weapons, but it needs to be fast swift and all and everything required. When it comes to fighting target selection, tactics all of it needs to be done by there military and there professional soldiers. Politics play a major roll with funding weapons ect the shopping list and the fighting the tactics needs to be put together by war fighters.

All those wonder weapons that will be a game changer. Its becoming hillarious

Stick to handing out parking tickets UK 🇬🇧

A few billion spent on finding peace would be an idea.

They are only getting 50 not 500. How many will be still operational by then? It's a very old, but updated, plane, a massive help undoubtably.

Is F16 that capable fighter jet?

After two years only a poor Poland is out spending more in percentage of economy. Some are still under a percentage point.

The delay by the US leading to a ' respite ' for the Russian forces, is similar to the delay prior to Waterloo when it took the Prussians time to get in position.

Ok Mr Danet if it can be done with these big pushes etc....then get on with it and prove the sceptics wrong

Of course..: He'll wait for British authorization!!!😁🤣🤣

Most of money already given

Antony blinken is the latest game changer sent to the Ukraine.

Meanwhile back on earth… 😂😂😂

delusional

In europe we should stop blaming america. Were 2 years in, europe has the money we should have the money and arms to give ukraine. Its our priority to stop ukraine from falling

The rumors are irrelevant. As Zelensky correctly pointed out: Poo-tin does not honor agreements. Just ask Prigoshyn.

don't pook the bear 😂

I wonder what Tricky-Dicky would say if he were paid to say what he really thought.

If tanks can be blown up with hand held launchers then battleships can be blown up with modern weaponry especially remote controlled torpedoes etc. The nature of war has changed a lot since WW2.

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2025, lol they will be lucky to last through 2024, I said it last year it is pointless to train Ukraine pilots in F16's for several reasons. 1/ war will probably be over by then, 2/these are not super planes that can't be shot down, in fact, they are actually quite old and outdated, it is 40+ years old 3/There is nothing that an F16 can do that a Patriot missile or ATACMS or other ground-based weapon can't.

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The F-16s are nearly 30 year old models not a match with late model Su 35. They will be limited in what they can be called upon to do.

Name one time, Times Radio and their experts have been right. Go on I DARE you ALL

I think Russia has a every right to create a buffer zone - if they had done it on Russian territory.

Parade of 2nd+ hand weapons (including F-16's) given to Ukraine will not be able to fuel much any offensive push, with a lack of man/woman power being a major factor. Ground forces have to deal with ATGM's, RPG's, artillery, tanks & APC's, mines, attack helicopters & aircraft, but worst of all drones. The only viable option for a 'successful' counter-offensive would be if Ukrainian forces were supplied modern Western attack & transport helicopters (& training on such craft should begin sooner than later). Only realist way to bypass what are now heavily fortified defensive Russian positions.

When Christmas😮😢😮!

"Is it possible for Ukraine to take back all their territory?" This is such a moronic question. The question should be: 'Is it possible for Ukraine to take back all their territory - IF - the Western backers of Ukraine, who collectively enjoy a ~ 9x - 15x advantage over the collective of Russia, Iran, & North Korea in GDP terms, decide to get serious about supporting Ukraine?'

Do you want America to be world police or not?? Make up your mind.

What was the faith of f16 in Vietnam with only s300

A psycopath NEVER admit anything, even if they are cought red-handed, stealing cokies from the cokie jar.

Aircraft carriers were designed to neutralize battleships, today they are just huge liabilities

They dont have any reserves , men nowt ..Counter offensive with what exactly ?

06:00 Indeed... Come on lads, the science gets done here in Britain. The Royal Institute, Cambridge, James Clerk Maxwell... We simply can't let the bloody Yanks deploy these "laser" guns first. 🤣

For the F-16 ukraine 🇺🇦 what it how. NOT next year. Right now All ways Fxxxing to late????

twas already delayed when the aid bill was introduced to congress tis always about the slow death of russian capability the talk now about NATO boots is a real tease cuz Putin has been reduced to running conventional war on fumes

Big brother...bad Save us America...good

A lot of wishful thinking here. If wishes were horses beggars would ride. The opportunity was lost a year ago and sadly, now there is no way back. This stupendously muddled response by "the West" to Putin's imperial land grab will be dissected and studied at length in history departments for ages, as the textbook example of how not to conduct diplomacy and military policy. Also it's astounding that a mentally deficient US congresswoman - yes Moscow Marge has blood on her hands - and a handful of her cronies could tie the US government into knots and prevent the delivery of critical weaponry to Ukraine. Democracy sure does have its vulnerabilities. It is also disgraceful that "Europe" has not been able to take more of its defence responsibilities into its own hands. Europe remains a tot waiting for Uncle Sam's largesse and protection. It's a very discouraging situation.

This war will escalate and spread.

Nor he should

Summer* 2026* or possibly autumn 2025. if the rest of 2024 and most of 2025 has as high russian loses as this winter just gone

Biden and Zelensky didn't know they already lost 😂

For anyone thinking ukaine could suitain another counter offensive are delusional not even got the troops anymore

american monies have not supplied any long range cruise missiles. the guest is ignorant.

Lord Cameron 's hesitation/ reluctance to deploy drone downing air power in but not in Ukraine. Why ? Didn't he give the reason as it would ' commit ' NATO ! Well, NATO members are already sending armaments, and preparing to send more. Lets hope Lord Cameron isn't at heart an ' Appeaser' . Putin will be encouraged.

Where is Europes $

I thought F 16s were supposed to come this year.

another day..another crazy TR story...who writes this stuff..?

F16s now!

What a load off drivell. The times are embarrassing.

denmark say in juni

June July 2023 .. U.S. had a budget $100million for 100Ukraine Pilots .. What are they Training on ??.. Some how i dont think its F16 .. I reckon its one of these 2.. A10 or F35 ... U.S. were unloading Black Boxes, saw about, 6 could have been more, Pretty Heavily guarded .. Was trying to see any Yellow Sticker .. Hand Held Laser Weapons Guaranteed..

Drones and hypersonics have changed the whole game..

Les f16 IS obsolètes

Denmark and Netherlands are waiting for permission to send the f16s around 60 of them ,WHY THE DELAY!!!! The uk has over 100 old eurofighters in storage , not the ground attack variant, they should have been sent as soon as the pilots are available Instead of waiting for US sorting out a deal that suits the american makers . Ukraine would be better buying korean jets as they allow you to use them without permission . What happens if the f16 jets are used to bomb just over the border to stop an invasion the yanks would have kittens every bridge from russia into ukraine should have been dropped and all railway centres leading to ukraine bombed when the Ukrainian push was in full swing to starve Russia of resupply and crimea would be in Ukrainian hands but the politicians sat on their hands and gave the Russians time to dig defence in depth making it harder to root them out , shame on them

Day dreamers

Moscow- Mongol horde´s war record :- 1856 defeated by Britain and France 1905 defeated by Japan 1917 defeated by Germany 1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states 1939 defeated by Finland 1969 defeated by China 1989 defeated by Afghanistan 1989 defeated in the Cold War. 1996 defeated by Chechnya 2022 defeated by Ukraine WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :- a) Hungary 1956 b) Czechoslovakia 1968 c) Moldova 1992 d) Georgia 2008

When you're losing touch with REALITY 🤔🙄😂

Ukraine could surrender and save lives .

It really worries me that our professional officer class are so tactically unaware. They keep getting it wrong

In 2025 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

projection, projection, projection... misplacing our own weaknesses onto others ?

He's already won

Літвіны гэта Гістарычная назва Беларусаў , як Эліны ў Грэкаў, Суомі ў Фінаў , Магяры ў Вугорцаў і так далей . Мы не першыя і не апошнія ў гэтым, трэба 2 назвы выкарыстоўваць як іншыя робяць. Mой сын кажа - мaскавіцкая мова ўвогуле не патрэбна будзе ў жыццi. Калi знiкне лукавы пра - маскоўскі тыран, у Беларусi (ВКЛ) будзе беларуская мова, а калi прыйдзецца жыць за мяжой, то будзе патрэбна мова той зaмежнай краiны. А для паразумення з iншаземнымi сябрамi, патрэбна ангельская, польская цi ўкраінская.

Such a dreadful dribble . Could say ANYTHING for 2025 or at least a CHANCE

Counter offensive with no soildiers,how’s that going to work

Another clown...2025...it will be over with huge loses of the Ukraine..

Western day dreaming and sense of desperation

😂😂😂 western media

LOL. Counteroffensive.

This is some serious denial of reality and fantasising.

This reporting just seems delusional to me…I mean based on what is literally happening before our very eyes.

F16s are not immune to S400s, they will be destroyed if they come in range

F16s in Donbas airspace? More chance of seeing *_pigs_* flying up there.

REGIME CHANGE FOR RUSSIA

Time to accept defeat.

He already won. Don't poke the bear.

Ukrainian forces have begun to break and flee from the front. There will be no Ukrainian counter offensive.

Counter offensive with old men and boys, Ukraine running out of men, they remind me of germany 1945 😂

Unfortunately Ukraine does not have enough soldiers to launch a counter offensive. They will be on the defensive for the remainder of the war.

"There is a chance".... I wonder if we had speculation radio programs like this in 1943. But in 1943 we were getting ready to drive tanks into Germany. Now we are just sitting around trying to sound smart

British is outdated system and it depends on US.

The 2025 counter offensive? lol give me a break. Just start the peace talks already before it gets worst for UkrIne