Ukraine: Drone Dogfights 

It's only a matter of time before purpose built drones for destroying enemy drones appear on the battlefield. Autonomous drones with pistol calibre weapons and sighting mechanisms and AI assistance for example, or EW pods to scramble the drones connection to it's user or to maybe hack it and take control. Cheap kamikaze drones for ramming and destroying other larger more expensive drones that loiter looking for targets....

Ukrainian drones should hang a long wire underneath them for attacks from above to entangle enemy drones, or hang fishing line with a small fishing weight underneath to entangle...

@@hurtfixer_ So long as there's some kind of automatic release mechanism after entanglement otherwise both drones still go down...

China: We have zero morals

literally tiananmen square

And the same intelligence officer in the country of manufacture has screens running with both feeds.

probably consecutive serial numbers

They are... Dji in china..................

But later dies those who have no intel.

@@UserUser-kz4fqit’s intel for artillery missions too though.

Until they unite against their real enemy.....

Until one side has no more drones...

Always fun to see battletech fans in the wild

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Many brave drones have sacrificed their lives so that other drones can live in peace and freedom. RIP Drones

O no ! The Russians leave their drones on the ground to rot! Maybe a batterytree will sprout at best

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Rest in Pieces 🙏

Not the most outlandish idea!

Mirroring early Russian attempts at fighting during WW1

Pavashot with Roborounds.

Wait there has gotta be some super small/compact gas powered rifle that could be attached to a drone right?

@@AwesomeIan135 Why would you go that complex? You know how much lighter weight a .22 cartridge is than an air tank and valve assembly? MUCH lighter weight, and we are talking less than most coins in terms of cost.

i think different bout that. if the net has just some fabric fibre or is sturdy, it will just brake the props a bit which is enough to broing it down. the weight itself is just added for the reason, that the net is falling faster to the drone and is not affected too much with wind. they fly maybe above 100m and there allways much more wind. i you fly a quad you may remeber how a few weed sticks grass gras or little branches can stop one prop and you have to walk a bit.

Not quite anything so spectacular, more like they stole it from Drone Fighting stuff done by kids, and Battle Bots from Comedy Central.

@@crisnmaryfam7344 n0t qUiTe aNytHiNg sO sPecTacUlaR 🤡

Planes have two disadvantages: you need to be a skilled pilot, unlike with a Mavic, and if you are a skilled pilot, a quadcopter is more flexible. You really figure it would be easy to knock a small object out of the air with a fixed wing? I find FPV quads are far more maneuverable. Re: price, an FPV fixed wing is not $100. You can get a full manual fixed wing kit for that price. There really are FPV quads around $100, on the other hand. I think surveying the area and locating enemy drones would be much easier from an FPV drone than a fixed wing in constant forward motion. You can't even move particularly slowly without stalling. There's a reason fixed wing racing has huge gates in comparison to FPV racing.

I think I watched something like that in the Rotor Riot channel

​@@geometerfpv2804 Get FPV has SonicModell AR wing kit for 54.99 right now for people that for some reason can't build these from scratch with a piece of foam board. There are easy to locate plans if you need them on places like RC groups. Quads need 3 to 4 times more parts than a flying wing and once weighted down with a weapon they won't fly like a race quad anymore. A hovering drone like a Mavic is an easy target. If you can't see something like that. It is just unfortunate for you. I have hit other fixed wings head on and recovered and kept flying. Break or tangle just one prop on a quad and it will crash. Especially if it is overloaded. You seem to think that because I would use a simple flying wing against a drone that I know nothing about your quads. I have probably been building them longer than you have been flying. I still have my first Phantom FC40 with prop guads. My first "race" quad was an immersion RC vortex with the folding arms. I even have some parts left from it too. Did you ever think the huge gates in fixed wing racing has something to do with the fact that they have wings that need to fit through the gates? I embrace all forms of flight. I see the disadvantages of quads as well as their obvious advantages too. For some reason you seem to think quads are better at everything and they simply are not. Lancet drones have been wearing out Ukrainian equipment and they are fixed wing drones. More than half of the FPV racequad attacks miss their intended targets. We never see all the misses from either side.

Very cool. I was thinking of next gen engineering ideas and if seems you’ve got some exp with some good solutions/ideas. Guys like us should be the design idea guys for drone companies 🍻🚀🎯💥

@paulking7019 Totally agree. If you ever want to stage a demonstration or try iterating the design of such an Air-Superiority wing, I'm totally down. I grew up cutting, building and flying combat wings, and have a fair bit of experience with FPV fixed-wing combat, among other hats that I wear.

I guess military drones are already a lot tougher. Remember those are cheap off the shelf enthusiast drones. Toyota didn't make their Pickups bullet proof just because they did great in a war. Same applies here.

@cyan_oxy6734 indeed it does go down to cost for sure, even if it's the savings of a $1,200 drone versus a $2,000 drone, it's not a lot of savings but I guess it is cheaper alternative to metal or composite blades/ structures ect ect.

i expect protective rings above and around the rotors

​@@sodincThats a bad idea it increases weight and reduces effency of the rotors there requiring a bigger battery that increases weight even more. The smart idea would be to add a camera on top of a drone with a wide lense.

That costs money. These are consumer drones. Ninety-nine percent of these drones being sold are to schools, children, and peaceful enthusiasts. They won't be making modifications to try and sell more to people using them to blow people up.

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it fucking sucks lol odds are we'll all see war and this is now a fundamental aspect of it.. meatgrinder

Agreed, even just q couple of 6" pegs similar to landing legs would do the job. Also some rotor guards like you see on the ones made for little kids may prevent some of the losses from top attacks

or just trail some line weighted with fishing sinkers, should be enough to stop a rotor.

@@andrewcarr3650 but then you lose your drone when it gets tangled and they both fall unless you had a really heavy lift drone

​@@jblob5764 Still easy to make work. Use coat-hanger wire to give it a bit of extra reach, and then use some light monofilament fishing line intended to break off from the snare line as a means of attaching it.

In before they start arming these to shoot shotgun shells at each other

Thank you, thanks for watching!

None. Gun based solution is too heavy and also not cost effective for many target. Missile based solution is too too tooooo expensive.

@@jintsuubest9331 .410 shotgun.

@@BrettBaker-uk4te ???

@@jintsuubest9331 mount a semi-automatic .410 shotgun with larger size shot. Lower recoil, but you don't have to ram the other drone to take it out. Just get within 10 meters or so.

Quick reflexes for racing drones.

@@whoisme678 I hate seeing a hobby I have enjoyed so much for a decade be used for such purposes. 😕

Drone racing is going to be the next weaponized skill, for good reason too some of these drones are hitting 80-100mph and are extremely small you could fly down a trench marking location with basically 0 chance of failure

I'm not sure why they want FPV drones, mavics seem better. The flight time is so short. You've got a vast sky. You need to locate the enemy in. Plus, FPV flight requires tons of training to do well, whereas a Mavic is point-and-shoot.

@@geometerfpv2804 100% agree that drones are so much easier to operate than flying a quadcopter. They require a minimal amount of training. The disadvantage to them is that they are slow. Just in the past year or so the hobbyist has been able to achieve 30 minute flight times with large quad copters. That is with lithium ion batteries. And achievable flight times of 15 minutes on lithium polymer, the motors have become very efficient, as well as the software for energy management. It’s all super interesting and happens too fast for me to keep up with 😵‍💫😄 Sorry for the long comment/reply. It is really for the non-FPV guys, I know you are one of the initiated. 😉👍

What's stopping you then?

Since you don't have to worry about the user you can put a very aggressive muzzle brake to reduce the recoil and solve it that way.

Laser guns ❤

Something light duty like a .410 shotgun, or even a pistol round with the larger "rat shot" would be doable. Simple solenoid trigger.

Yeah seems like a very likely a potential next step for sure, it's already been played with. Thanks for watching!

I don't see the advantage versus a simple net made out of a few crossed yarns with fishing weights. You are adding a whole lot of complexity and points of failure to gain destructive power that is complete overkill (versus an incredibly easy to damage drone).

Both sides use acro drone as well

Seems a potential next step for sure, it's already been played with. Thanks for watching!

The problem would be recoil, you would be hard-pressed to get a good firing solution on the enemy and you could shoot yourself out of the sky With larger drones this makes sense, but with a DJI not much

@@jevinliu4658 Anti air drones could ditch the quadcopter design and go back to the old WW2 formula of fighter aircraft, where the thrust of the engine would largely mitigate the issue of recoil. The wings would also be great for ramming attacks. Just my 2 cents. I'm no expert.

​@@arifchowdhury881 You could, but that would mean making a whole new drone instead of adapting capabilities to existing quadcopters in service This is a different question, which I don't doubt will work but might not be as readily available.

​@@jevinliu4658*RC planes enters the chat*

Or perhaps a top/wider fov camera and maybe a microphone to allow for better detection of enemy drones.

One good way to defend against ramming from above could be to mount long, thin prongs and antennas on the top of the drone. Ramming drone drops onto the prongs, gets its propellers absolutely skewered, and down it goes. Easy to make, and next to no added weight needed.

I know. It's difficult to adjust to...

Thank you!

My thoughts went to a detachable metal chain. I also like the fiberglass rod suggested by another comment; could be used as defense as well.

I like it.

Napalm is a sticky glue. And flamethrower drones already exist. Make diy napalm from styrofoam.

Didn't the Battlefield games have drones or am I wrong?

*drone hitbox missing*

Glad you think so! Thanks for watching

Drastically reduces flight time, though

Both defensive and offensive options that add weight make them worse at flight time, and therefore observation.

it is too heavy and creates resistance. The best defense is attack~!

Holy shit drone cope cage

I could see why too they are flying thousands on both sides everyday

I've been waiting for an anti-drone drone to arrive ever since drones first started to be serious nuisances in the civilian world. I'm sure there are research teams working on this idea, and it is only a matter of time.

It would cost 100,000 dollars per unit, and can only attack small drones. While the bigger military drones can get away unharmed. Yeah, very good investment.

@DonVetto-vx9dd Although I believe a $20K anti-drone drone would be feasible, a $100k anti-drone would still be amazingly cost effective if it had a high enough kill rate. You don't have to save many million dollar armored vehicles or keep very many military maneuvers secret to make that price tag start looking really cheap.

Propellers might spoil that. perhaps fish eye cameras on top of the drones are a solution. Or a combination. The other factor is effect on useful battery life.

@@BandOfHarjaps Can add them to a thin vertical pole maybe, between the rotors at the center

Me too. All the nice cinematic videos that could've been done with them... It's also disturbing to see the exact same GUI besides the same drone in a war which I use for just making videos and having fun. Soon, the FPV pros will have a high income on battlefield.

@@ones_flow5652 yeah, definitely. I would love to see those drones much more rather in hands of some kids, or other people, who can't afford a drone and want one. Such a waste of a lot of money during this worthless war.

Right, a spring to deploy and spread the net. Good thinking

Yes should have mentioned that directly, it basically hits it like a blunt projectile and perhaps tangles a little. Some refinement will be needed to get the jet to fan out but definitely not see any videos of similar since.

@@TheArmourersBench hey i would like to ask, does Ukraine have a equivalent to Russian lancet drones?, and could you do a update on switchblade 300

So I'm tracking the small number of SB 600s which are kind of an analogue but I don't think Ukraine have a drone of the Lancet's size yet. Lots of smaller FPV drones though. I'll have to do a Switchblade update anyway.

Something based on Taser would make sense. No capacitors needed, just the CO2 launched darts, trailing wires and laser dot aiming.

You don't need sticky. Just fishing line would do.

Yes, I believe they can. I believe that's one of the reasons Ukraine requested them.

That already a thing. Ukrainians strip old soviet AT cluster bombs for PTAB-2.5M HEAT submunition to use against vehicles.

Basically mount an electric 'baby sized - transparant plastic' airsoft to a drone, I wonder will 2 Joule BB or BBs sufficient to wreck other drone's rotor 🤔