ULTIMATE V8 SHOWDOWN - M3 vs RS4 vs ISF vs C63 

Hahah

Almost?

Agree

Yup, still have my 2013 ISF, original owner. Always fun, zero issues.

They all have thrills LOL their all V8

@@Toyota4Life yeh, in *context* to his review and by *comparison* the C63 is for thrills, more so than the others.

Excellent cars!

Absolutely

Yeah would have to agree haha

Haha nice they’re all awesome

Thanks

Thanks man! Appreciate it

I guess I’d agree

I read the comment without watching the video first. And i actually agree this C63 doesn't sound as visceral as others I've heard for some reason. If you watch the video on the carwow channel it sounds like an absolute beast.

@@DJYAMIN107 yeah. Again it sounds amazing but a VERY close second place

Thanks man!

It’s finally here!

Agree

Very nice

Thanks man!

Good car

good boy Good choice You wouldn't be disappointed ❤Promiss !! Love mine sooooooooooo much

Oh yeah they sound awesome

@@KiwiCarLife nice sideways action in the c63 ;)

Would be cool

Slightly different maybe, seems like the main upgrade is the LSD. But all these cars were roughly 2006-2009 models so it's a fair test

@@KiwiCarLife on a race track the 2014 ISF’s lap about 4-5 second faster then the 2008 ~ early year ISF. That’s not a “slight difference” Motor trend the automotive company actually did a lap test with the V8 competition M3 and a 2014 ISF and ISF put down the same lap time as the V8 competition M3 and that v8 competition M3 was a two-door coupe re and the ISF is a four-door….

​@@Toyota4Life2014 is incredibly rare though. It may aswell be compared to a hand built sports car with how rare it is

Yeah agree

Ah yes potentially

Agree

@@KiwiCarLife The ISF drives 100-200 in 9.8 Secs stock, M3 in 10.2s Stock, RS5 B8 in 10.8s and C63 in 9.4 - 9.6 s. All measured in GPS from multiple owners. So regarding which is faster does not really play a role. They are the same level. 0-100 the RS5 V8 will obviously completely destroy all of them thanks to Quattro and Launch Control. Some may FEEL faster but if you measure them they are pretty much all the same. I personally owned a C63, RS5 but also driven the M3, so the ISF is not something i tried because im not into saloons, must be a coupe for me when its about fun. The C63 just feels like 600 HP because its so raw and likes to spin all the time. But at the other time i have a friend with his ISF who thinks he beat 911 GT3RS and RS7s on the autobahn ... his car is stock. So that ISF must FEEL really fast lol :D

Nice! They’re great cars

Smart man rs4 rule period 👌 💯 % will never sell mine :-)

Yeah man they’re all amazing eh

Fair

Haha it's literally all I own is Honda shirts

Thanks

Nice

Yeah I guess

Yep agree ISF is the best to own but the others stock for stock are probably a better drive. With a few mods the ISF is awesome

Thanks!

Me too

Best exterior and interior is highly subjective, and it definitely doesn’t have the best transmission but it’s a brilliant car!

They’re lovely cars

Nah

I wouldn’t say the best but it’s definitely the most reliable

Yeah I was very impressed with the troqe in the merceses too!

@@KiwiCarLife I would chose ISF anyway lol

Don’t think we got the 507 here

@@KiwiCarLife My brother’s mate had one at one point, it was hilariously fast. He got it new, because he was quite successful with his own business, but as you can probably tell from my profile picture, I’ve always been a bit of a BMW fan. Keep going with the videos, they’re excellent.

@Sean Pang I’d imagine they don’t crop up as often down there as they do in the UK, there’s almost always a 507 edition or three for sale here. I have to admit, I do occasionally look, but I like my Alpina too much.

@Sean Pang I got an E39 B10 3.3 manual, and it’s my perfect one car garage car.

Mmm yes good car

Yeah that would have been cool, it’s a Holden Commodore SS over here

Yeah tyres would have made a difference

Good car

Took what cars I could get and yes I’m well aware

Nah they don’t really compete with these

ISF but yeah

Yeah they’re pretty awesome

They're all good in their own right

that would have been cool!

It’s very good

Fair enough

Good nosie

Well I own the ISF so…

@@KiwiCarLife sorry. I guess I mean if you could swap would you?

Oh yesss I’d be keen

Nice

Good car

Fair enough, just coz an opinion is against the grain doesn’t make it right though. M3 is the best drive imo

Ahh yes I’ll sell my 2008 ISF and buy a 2012 ISF for double the price just for the video

@@KiwiCarLife 😆 That's not what I said at all. When I said find a 2010 to 2014, I meant maybe you can find someone who's willing to bring a 2010 and up ISF for those kind of videos but it's not easy to find people with 2010 and up ISFs.

@@SlowWhip yes you’re right haha. Gotta work with what I’ve got. 08 isf is more realistic comparison price wise. C63’s are like 20k now, E90’s 30-35, RS4’s bit more at like 40-50, but any facelift ISF is a. Impossible to find and b. 40-60k

@@KiwiCarLife I love those C63s, specially the 507 and Black Series version. The Black Series are going for almost $200k now here in the U.S which is crazy 😅

good strong car

Yeah I’d agree with that

Coming

I did

Oh very nice

Nice, these other cars are probably in a different kind of garage now lol

Yeah definitely the ISF is gonna be the best to live with

Nice

Not sure everyone would agree with that… every track test I’ve seen put the M3 on top which makes sense. Same power but less weight, lsd etc. but I thoroughly enjoyed the ownership experience of the ISF and agree it’s the most bombproof of the lot

@@KiwiCarLife check car and driver lighting lap VIR..08-09 isf didn't have LSD...but 2010 up did ..like I said...2011 isf( stockLSD car) beat the m3 on car and driver test lap.. ..check the stock tires on both..way better stock size and compound on the Germans ..

Yeah maybe in that specific test but on literally every other dry track on earth the M3 is faster haha. ISF seems to be better on wet courses: fastestlaps.com/comparisons/68advl9s3e46

@@KiwiCarLife these times were for 1st year isf without LSD...the same driver that did 8:18 at the ring in 07...later did 8:03 in a 2010 stock LSD lsf . 2010 + cars are very rare and mostly overlooked ... check 2010 up cars..and you will see a big difference...plus even 2010 cars are not evenly matched to the the stock track tire that came on the m3 .. Toyota put 225 front and 255 rear ..subpar Bridgestones..vs 245 fronts 265 rear much better sticker mich......I am a track instructor and have spent time on both m3 and isf .. there isn't much a difference between both in tack times once even in tires and both fbo.most don't care to know this really ..the isf is a strongly overlooked platform..in my opinion it's the best all around car you tested..even tho yours is a non LSD early model vs lsd German rivals .just my opinion my man.👍

​@@KiwiCarLifethe wet data makes perfect sence...the isf skinny crappy a/s tires would do better in the rain....m3 is hell of a car on track..but if you look there are many track times that were neck and neck ..those were 2010 up cars with LSD...if the time was way off they were 08-09 non LSD ..but they all had rain tires (so to say )2009-2014...lol ...the point is the isf is even with, or even faster than the factory track king m3.....c63 and the Audi just don't stand a chance..add the reliability of the isf .and it's easy the best car here ..in my opinion.

Sure is!

The owner rides bikes

@@KiwiCarLife Ah I figured it was detachable only seen it without after I posted the comment 😅

Yes

Fair

@@KiwiCarLife ​ love the video and your content, but you should work on your responses to comments. So blunt, you should be interacting with your followers better with more engaging comments other than “cool”, “fair”, “good car” Love your content and best of luck to you😁 just a suggestions for your channel

@@mandocon I understand, but you try replying to 100 comments daily on top of a full time job. No other youtubers my size do it

@@KiwiCarLife you don’t have to respond to every comment on your page, I feel like that’s why they are so blunt and boring. Take that same time you would take to respond to every comment, and respond to a handful but more thoroughly. Just my two cents. Again this is coming out of love not hate; great video and I want to see your channel grow exponentially. Best of luck to you🤙🏽

Overweight? Or just heavier

The ISF is lighter than the RS4 and the C63. How is it overweight?

Yeah but 2011 is way newer than all the competition in this video. You can’t just pick the best example of the car you like and the worst of all the others just so your favourite is the best 😂

Yeah and for that reason I didn’t like it

Yes

I guess

Absolutely

Trans in that era jag is average tho

@@KiwiCarLife some of them have the BMW ZF gearbox in them. the po0s ones are the ones with ford and merc trans

Very torquey

@@KiwiCarLife how about the ISF?

@@pd5041 yeah in terms of torque the higher displacement cars feel much more grunty

Id say that but m3 2nd probably

It already is!

Would have been really interesting to do a rolling race to see which one was quickest aye... C63 definitely first, then the others... who knows. RS4 probably the slowest