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This video is all about the pros and cons of various ultralight sleeping bag and pad options. This video is part of a 10 episode series that is focused on lightweight backpacking equipment and techniques. The other videos in this series can be found on RU-vid or at CleverHiker.com.
Video Summary & Highlights:
- Your sleeping bag, pad, and pillow are critical to enjoying backcountry trips and staying safe.
- These can also be very heavy pieces of equipment, so keeping weight down is critical.
- Many backpackers take unnecessarily warm/heavy sleeping bags/pads on spring/summer/fall trips.
Key Sleeping Bag Info:
- Degree rating - warmth. For most 3 season trips a 25-30 degree bag will be quite warm. You can also wear extra clothing to increase warmth.
- Insulation - Down vs Synthetic. Down is lighter and compresses more. Synthetic costs less. I prefer down over synthetic.
- Size - Length and width - Lightweight bags can feel snug to some, so test the fit of your bag. Lightweight quilts are a good way to keep warm with less restriction.
Key Sleeping Pad Info:
- Your pad is important for comfort, but also for warmth. It insulates you from the cold ground.
- Check the R Value of your pad to find it's warmth rating.
- Air-filled pads and foam pads are the two main types.
- Air pads are more comfortable, but they cost more and can puncture in the field. Foam pads are less expensive and can be multi-purpose (trail seat, backpack frame, etc.). I prefer air-filled pads for the comfort and I cary a small repair kit just in case.
- Pad length is another important consideration. You can go full length for extra comfort on your feet, or save weight by choosing a torso length pad. Ultralight backpackers and thru-hikers often save weight with torso-sized pads.
Key Pillow Info:
- Pillow is important for comfort.
- The lightweight way is to put extra clothing in a stuff sack. No extra weight and is still comfortable.
- Some blow-up pillow options available as well, but I haven't found any that I love. So I prefer going with the stuff sack route.

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@JohnHolmes3.0 6 лет назад

Three years later and your videos are still the number one source that I send new campers to! I wish you made new videos, but your older ones are just so comprehensive.

@darylgud7601 7 лет назад

Things are always changing. I live in Utah and have found much of these videos helpful. As for my choice of sleep gear I have started to use a top quilt and a thermorest type pad. The thermorest will keep you warm even on snow. My top quilt is home made it is for summer camping, but a couple of weeks ago in February it got down, hovering around 5 degrees. I made some down booties that go up to my knees and a mini blanket that goes from my chin to my mid section and I had a puffy coat as added warmth. I slept comfortable. I bought two down throws at Costco for 19.00 a piece that I made my system from. I sewed a small tube at the bottom of one so I could make a foot box by running some paracord through it and gather the bottom of the quilt. Because I am 6'4" tall I added some height to the quilt, made some booties and the mini quilt out of the rest of the second throw. I also added some small loops to attach the mini quilt to the top of the top quilt to hold it in place and a couple at the bottom to better enclose the foot box. The whole system weights less than two pounds and is modular depending on the temperature. The long top quilt for summer will weigh 1 lb 1/2 oz. No need for a bivey. the top quilt is less restrictive, easier to get in and out of, lighter and seems to be just as warm as a bag. When you lay on goose down, the part you lay on crushes the loft and has little to no insulative qualities. It is just added weight. Just something to think about.

@haroldgar1 7 лет назад

I'm a camper and backpacker lightening up my load, you have great info on your channel keep them coming!

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Thanks so much Harold!

@nicosmeets1709 6 лет назад

Great comment. Living 36 years in the Nepal mountains, I agree with his comment.

@TheWtfnonamez Год назад

I recently got an army surplus British Military Sleeping System and its amazing. Its a combination of winter sleeping bag, thin jungle sleeping bag, liner, goretex bivvy bag, all of which you can mix and match, depending on weather and conditions. Basically its good for anything between hot weather and arctic cold. All together its rated down to -37 Celsius. Combine it with an insulated mattress, topped with some animal furs, and it will be effective down to -50c. Add a tent and it will certainly be warm enough for any part of the world I will ever be likely to visit. I was sold on the flexibility and the extremely large range of a effective temperatures. Basically its good for anywhere other than the high Arctic.

@aleqx03 8 лет назад

Great video! Very helpful. I'm currently preparing my first backpacking trip, and your channel helps a lot :)

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Thanks so much!

@Lucario9d 7 лет назад

I have 2 ounce blow up sea to summit pillow that is incredibly comfortable and very easy to inflate/deflate, I have used it forever and I love it.

@christopherrowan3886 7 лет назад

Lovely video mate! I've enjoyed all of your videos and instructionals and although not your average lightweight backpacker - I have found a few of your suggestions invaluable; especially the subject of stoves. My favourite item in my kit has to be my Trangia 25-1. When camping, I have cooked everything on it from the humble bowl of porridge to meals fit for a King and everything inbetween, although I now have my eyes set on the Jetboil. From the UK, thankyou again! Chris.

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Thanks so much Chris! I really appreciate the kind words.

@vincentmiceli2554 8 лет назад

Very informative and entertaining video. Well presented without obvious bias. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience with us.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+Vincent Miceli Thanks so much Vincent! Much appreciated.

@kosiski 9 лет назад

I LOVED THE VIDEO! Keep the good work. Cheers from South America

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

kosiski Thanks!

@laxisusous 10 лет назад

Variable Girth Quits from Nunatak FTW. Also I find that the foam pads from Gossamer Gear work great.

@backcountrylife7063 8 лет назад

Im glad to see Western Mountaineering on the list. Ive loved Western Mountaineering bags, and they really pack down small. Really like that they are made in USA too.

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Thanks!

@EDCAdventures 7 лет назад

Great video series you've got here. One thing I used this summer in place of a sleeping bag was the SOL Escape Bivvy inside of my OR Advanced Bivvy. The SOL is only 8.5oz and I found with my layering system I was good down to about 50 degrees

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Thanks for the tip!

@thomasnugent7602 5 лет назад

Very good, Thank you very much

@sarahbayo9730 6 лет назад

He makes me want to hike 😉

@nitsan 8 лет назад

Awesome tips. Thanks.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+Nitsan Simantov Very welcome! Thanks for the comment.

@grantwallace1882 4 года назад

Excellent video

@tarkenton17 8 лет назад

Hey Dave! Love your videos! What is your opinion on quilts? Looking at getting a new ultralight down bag for a thru-hike and noticed that they can weigh about a half pound lighter for the same temp rating compared to a standard mummy. (MH Phantom 15 vs. Katabatic Gear Sawatch 15) Any thoughts would be awesome!

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+Brian Tarkenton, Hey Brian, thanks for the comment! I've recently become a huge fan of down quilts. I generally dislike the constricted feeling of mummy bags. Down quilts are often much lighter and can keep you very warm. I'm a big fan of the enlightened equipment revelation quilt. There's a link to it in the description of this video and I posted a full review on cleverhiker.com too. Hope that helps!

@kingsizedmidget7294 7 лет назад

I also use a down filled 35 degree bag. its been pretty good to me for the last 4 years. It has lost a little loft but i think that's because i store it wrong sometimes.

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback!

@MidsierramusingBlogspot 9 лет назад

Good advice from someone who obviously is an experienced backpacker.

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

dematson Thanks! Happy to help.

@frankandstuff 6 лет назад

If you're hiking in the winter where it gets below 0, would your hat, coat, and a 15 degree sleeping bag actually be enough?

@EarlyMist 10 лет назад

Hmmm, might have to invest in a down bag at some point. I use a Snugpak bag which is great in mild weather and cold as long as you wear pants and fleecy in the latter. It just packs a tad big. I have an Exped air mattress and its is more comfortable than my bed! Seriously. But it has had about 5 punctures so far so you can be in sleepy heaven one moment, and on cold ground the next. You wake up and you're like wtf happened! That is why, if possible I take a foam 'accordion' mat just like the one you showed (from china... $20) and the inflateable to go on top. Foam mat affords puncture protection, adds some R value and is a backup if the inflateable does puncture. In all fairness one of the epic punctures of my Exped was due to my cat using it as a scratching post. It was like Freddy Kreuger had a go at it. Another was because I had my Trangia mini pot handle in my pocket. It happened about 7:30 am and I had hit the vodka the night before....so at least it got me up before the crack of Noon.

@jerseyltd 3 года назад

Whats a 20 degree bag good for?

@lvrider423 8 лет назад

Great video...thanks

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

Happy to help!

@rustyjohnson2659 9 лет назад

Going to the Boundary Waters the last week of May with two buddies that have went there several times. I'll be new at it. Any recommendations on a good sleeping system that will be light weight, small and easy to pack in ? Have been enjoying your video's. Lots of good advice !

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

Rusty Johnson Thanks Rusty. Check out the gear section of my website - www.cleverhiker.com/gear. That should help. And have a great trip! The Boundary Waters is an amazing place to canoe and camp.

@washuai 6 лет назад

Your site article doesn't support comments. I get the caveat with synthetic bags and I prefer down myself. I'm allergic, so I don't get a choice.It really would have been nice to know what synthetic budget and ultralite you'd say are best picks.

@MASViper 6 лет назад

For me, since the place I lived is mostly suitable for tropical jungle, I didn't bring a sleeping bag. I just used air mattress and if the temperature dropped, I just wear my sweater.

@ronniemead805 8 лет назад

I wish I could go hiking with you Dave.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+Ronnie Mead Lol, thanks!

@billyshikes6190 9 лет назад

Good vid. Thx.

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

Billy's Hikes Thanks Billy

@adventureswithfrodo2721 8 лет назад

I have a down bag that is close to 40 yes old and had survive while synthetic bags are lucky to last more then 5.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+Tim Barton Good point Tim. I hear that a lot from people. Down bags have a big up-front cost, but they last for a crazy long time if treated well.

@triscuitbiscuit 9 лет назад

Have you seen the Mountain Hardwear HyperLamina Spark? It's a 35 degree synthetic that is 1lb 12 ounces!

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

triscuitbiscuit True, it seems pretty cool. I must admit that I'm not really into half-zip bag designs though. They feel a little constrictive for me. WM makes a similar bag that weighs nearly a pound lighter, but it does cost a bit more. Have a look at my gear page for more info - www.cleverhiker.com/gear I'm also about to review a bag that I feel confident will be pretty sweet. More to come on that later...

@melindamorrison575 8 лет назад

I'm going on the Camino de Santiago May/June in Spain. I'm just learning about sleeping bags, weight, etc. I want a really lightweight down that compresses small and is the least weight, and not terribly expensive. I will be sleeping in hostels, but want a bag to put on top. What brands/kind do you recommend? I'm a side sleeper too if that helps, don't want to feel like I'm trapped when sleeping. I liked your video and thanks!

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+melinda morrison, boy are you in luck! I just put out a list of the 7 Best Sleeping Bags of 2016 - www.cleverhiker.com/best-sleeping-bags. I'd start there and let me know if you have any more questions. Thanks!

@melindamorrison575 8 лет назад

thanks!

@kellys1458 9 лет назад

If opting for any down-filled product, please make sure it carries the TE Responsible Down Standard (RDS) label. This ensures that down or feathers are sourced from responsibly-treated geese, ducks, or other waterfowl, and tracks the material through the supply chain. Down is often a by-product of the foie gras industry which includes such torturous practices as live-plucking and forced-feeding which leads to intentional organ ruptures. I believe that the Patagonia brand is leading the charge for cruelty-free down products. (More info at www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2014/10/patagonia_the_north_face_and_cruelty_free_down_industry_standards_for_ethical.html )

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

Kelly S Whoa, good info. I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.

@bob-a-job 6 лет назад

Good point Kelly. Thankfully, there are even more manufacturer's(Canada Goose, Jöttnar, TNF etc.) who are now adhering to the same(or similar) Down traceability & welfare standards.

@805gregg 5 лет назад

It's good that they use the down from foie gras, they will be making foie gras anyway so why not make use of the down

@escabrosa1 9 лет назад

Catchy tune...

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

escabrosa1 Yup, that's Emancipator. He's amazing.

@serpantseed08 9 лет назад

I'm having difficulty finding a sleeping bag I want. Which is lightweight, compact and at least rated 0C or 35F. Suggestion? Thanks.

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

serpantseed08 If you check out the gear recommendation section of my website you'll see my top gear picks - www.cleverhiker.com/gear. Hope that helps!

@molonlabe9602 9 лет назад

serpantseed08 Suisse Adventurer or Teton Sports Trailhead +20 are the two I'm considering.

@shortfuse6182 8 лет назад

Dave, any recommendations on sleeping bag brands? thanks-kyle

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

Yeah buddy!!! Check out this list of my faves - www.cleverhiker.com/best-sleeping-bags/

@MrRags080484 7 лет назад

Dave Collins n

@thefearinyoureye 5 лет назад

Great video but I'd argue that average temperature rating for sleeping bags for 3 season use would be between 10-30

@ColoradoCamper 8 лет назад

Great video for beginners or people trying to choose their gear! But I noticed your purple bag is a Western Mountaineering bag. If I were to give anyone advice on a sleeping bag, it would be to invest in a WM bag and never look back. They are miles above the more well known bag manufacturers in my opinion. I hardly get to use mine because my wife always steals it from me. But a warm wife is a happy wife, and a happy wife makes for a fun backpacking trip. Cheers.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+ColoradoCamper Lol, thanks for the comment! And I agree, keep the wife warm. Yeah, I love my WM bag. I recommend a few of my other favorite bags on my website in my gear guide as well - www.cleverhiker.com. Thanks for the comment!

@chrismorris638 7 лет назад

Hey does anyone know what that small sleeping bag was in the beginning

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

I believe you're talking about the Western Mountaineering bag? Have a look at my favorites here: www.cleverhiker.com/best-sleeping-bags/

@Besalu 6 лет назад

Dave: Have you done any long distance thru-hike like the PCT or the AT?

@CleverHiker 6 лет назад

Yup, I thru-hiked the PCT in 2010 and I've covered thousands of trail miles since then too, though most of them have been on individual shorter hikes, not thru-hikes. That said, I still stay in touch with the thru-hiking community and I still hike like a thru-hiker in many ways. For example, my backpack is lighter now than it ever was on my thru hike because of the knowledge and skill I've gained since then.

@Besalu 6 лет назад

I have done the JMT twice and the California section of the Tahoe Rim Trail. I have also done may trips around Ventana Wilderness (Bir Sur, CA), Trinity Alps and recently Lassen Volcanic National Park. Last year I attempted to do the Colorado Trail but did all the mistakes of a rookie: I was carrying too much gear and tried to cover too many miles the first week. The result? A nasty tendinitis that forced me out of the trail. Since then, working hard on my gear and trying ultralight gear and . I have managed to get down to 10 lbs/base weight (Zpacks Arc Blast Zip, Zipack Duplex Tent, Aegismax Quilt, etc.) Everything is in preparation for my second attempt of the CT next summer 2018 and the PCT in 2019.

@CleverHiker 6 лет назад

Nice! Best of luck!

@ragingtidegaming2298 9 лет назад

Can you please make a video on pocket knives and also a video on cooking/meal ideas

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

RagingTideGaming Yup! I have a pocket knives video coming out in a few weeks, so make sure to subscribe. I also already have a stove and lightweight food video, so have a look! Thanks for the support!

@DylanKayrooz 7 лет назад

make more videos please

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

Lol, thanks!

@MrJohnwitherspoon 9 лет назад

Great videos but maybe next time put the episode number in the title so they are easier to watch in order and make sure none are missed. Thanks!!

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

John Witherspoon Good call John. Thanks!

@Lawiah0 6 лет назад

YES - choose your sleeping bag based on WET CONDITIONS.

@philipbuckley759 7 лет назад

I have had several problems, with air pads....almost everyone has gotten some type of leak....one the first night.....but over time, most develop a leak...and that consists of about 6 of them....also...some of the sleeping bag ratings, they are not very accurate.....

@CleverHiker 7 лет назад

I feel you on that Philip. Sleeping bag ratings do tend to be too generous in my experience as well. I've had good luck with my air pads, but I am very careful where I choose to set them up and I always bring a repair kit. Still, that's one of the key downsides with air pads. Good comment.

@philipbuckley759 7 лет назад

often times it is not obvious just where the leak is...ergo I feel the valve may be an issue....one just blew out the first night....

@brockgi9248 9 лет назад

Mine is 29 years old

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

That's fantastic! Proof that if you take good care of a sleeping bag, it will last for decades. I have a few bags that I choose from for my trips, one of which is about 15 years old and still works like brand new.

@justinstephens5167 9 лет назад

im sorry but i am having a little bit of a hard time understanding what you are saying in the beginning when you were talking about the sleeping bag you carried. you first said that you carried a 15* sleeping back but then said that the weather never got to -17*. I only ask because i am having a very hard time choosing a sleeping bag.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+Justin Stephens Good question Justin. Just to clarify, I'm talking about Fahrenheit temps. Many bags are rated to 15 or 25 degrees. Freezing in Fahrenheit is 32 degrees. So a 15 degree bag is rated to keep you warm 17 degrees below freezing, which is 32 degrees fahrenheit. Make sense? I recommend most backpackers use bags rated from 25-30 degrees, depending on the type of backpacking they do. Most 3-season backpackers will rarely be camping in below freezing temps.

@nervousstranger 7 лет назад

Pillow? Not me.

@LongWhiteGypsy 5 лет назад

I love the great information you guys always give on your videos! They are always so informative. I actually just purchased an Enlightened Equipment Enigma quilt and so far I am incredibly happy with it. If anyone's interested in seeing a review of that quilt, I just did one of my first impressions: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DgCwIccifsM.html. I also decided to go with down over synthetic, not solely based on the waterproofing factor. I totally agree - just because a synthetic bag might dry out a bit faster if wet, does not necessarily make it a good choice. I live and hike in New Zealand, where it can be pretty damp for most of the typical hiking season. What I like about the Enigma is that it is responsibly sourced, TREATED down, which means it stands up a little more in damp conditions - hopefully preventing me from contracting hypothermia! Also, it's super light - which is great if you're not very strong and struggle carrying a 30-40lb (15-20kg) pack!

@marielnews 9 лет назад

Videos are bette if background audio is removed, its distracting, thx

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

Mariel In Lakesh Sorry about the distraction Mariel. Lots of folks really love the music though and I get positive comments about it all the time. So, sorry to say that for the time being I'm going to keep the background music in. Thanks for watching!

@marielnews 9 лет назад

Thanks for sharing.

@alexdwinchester 9 лет назад

I think you may have ADHD

@marielnews 9 лет назад

I think you ARE RIGHT!

@geraldhenrickson7472 8 лет назад

+Mariel In Lakesh I like the soundtrack. Very catchy and makes the entire production quite slick! OK...so I dated myself with that word but you get the idea...

@nimbuswh2261 9 лет назад

background music works fine :) mybe lower the volume a tad tough. i also noticed you dont give credit to the artist. you should do this. Emancipator

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

Nimbus WH Thanks for the comment Nimbus! I appreciate the feedback. I do give credit to the artist though, in every video at the beginning of the credits. He's a friend of mine and I respect his work quite a bit. Thanks!

@nimbuswh2261 9 лет назад

Dave Collins Ohhh! I must have missed that!

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

Nimbus WH No worries! Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment.

@ashmartin1966 6 лет назад

No one noticed he's not using the aluminized side?

@TheGoku501 9 лет назад

if you really want to save weight, dont bring a pillow, and use a stuff sack filled with clothes

@CleverHiker 9 лет назад

ToxicTime Good point. That's my style too.

@geraldhenrickson7472 8 лет назад

+ToxicTime Yep...and that must be why it is mentioned in this video towards the end...a very good idea.

@M.R.T.V.Videos 2 года назад

I write stupid crazy comments all over you tube to get subscriiibers but is not working :-(

@russellwilson5246 5 лет назад

down is ripped out of birds..googl it..its cruel selfish.

@RationallySkeptical 8 лет назад

Not very helpful. I didn't learn anything here that I didn't learn from my first 15 min of research. I was hoping to get more detailed info about temperature ratings, in terms of when certain temp rating bags get too hot. For example, how warm can it be at night without being too hot in a 0 degree, 15 degree, 30 degree bag, etc. I guess this video is ok for people too lazy to read anything, but for everyone else, this isn't very helpful.

@CleverHiker 8 лет назад

+RationallySkeptical Sorry to hear you feel that way, though I'm guessing by your RU-vid name that you might be tough to please ;) A lot of people have told me that they enjoyed this one, so I hope there's still some value in it. As for temp ratings, everyone sleeps comfortably at different temps and sleeping bag manufacturers don't rely on a strict temperature rating scale. So that type of information is very hard to nail down. You're a guy, so you'll sleep hotter than most women, but other than that, it all depends on your style and preferences. Sorry to not be able to help more.

@elifenn476 8 лет назад

Temp ratings are largely affected by personal preference. I can sleep in my 20 degree bag when it's much colder than 20 degrees because I sleep hot. My friend freezes when it starts to get around 30F in his 20 degree bag and uses it up to 40 degrees. You expecting this video to help you decide something based on personal preference is irrational.