There’s a parachute attached to the aircraft and there’s very little stress on the frame doing this maneuver. Maybe you should learn about aerodynamics, aerobatics and physics before you comment. I bet you’ve never even flown. 😂
@@thelastrebelshow1627Actually if you are pulling Gs, being pressed into your seat with excessive force, then, yes....There is stress on the wing, the frame, and the fabric.
I've spent a major part of my life in aviation flying all sorts of craft, even hang gliders. I was also an engineer. I don't hesitate to say this guy and his customer is a twin fatality waiting to happen.
I have flown ultralights for well over 2K hours but just a few minuets with this guy and I would have jumped out if I was wearing a chute after the first couple of seconds.... A few minuets and I might even jump out without a chute ;-)
I would like to express my thanks to the gentleman in the back seat for taking my place in this "test flight" where the structural and aerodynamic limits of this flying lawn chair were explored
There are design limits, and there are as built limits which depend completely on the integrity of the components and the assembly of the components. A failure of a fastener or structural component is EXTREMELY likely do to the cost involved with the manufacture of high reliability components. As an example, 20 years ago the aluminum hub that held the rotor blades of ambulance type helicopter cost over $70,000 and had a defined service life. You would definitely not find me in the back seat of this lawn chair.
@@paulskopic5844 we lived north of L.A. during the late 70's to the 90's. In the early eighties, My Dad, who was working for a composites company, came home one day, and said he was astonished that Northrup Grumman would throw away a $60,000 part they had just manufactured that wasn't quite right. I think it was a part for a rocket or a plane (I think it was a skin or a shell). I was astonished too. But like you said, that stuff has to be perfect, and even then...well, you just have to hope the engineers were correct and the builders also.
@@stevedriscoll2539i know a retired QC guy from around LA, who worked for Northrop grumman. He took great pleasure in refusing parts for the slightest defect. He's a pain to buy stuff for.
Do you mind telling a tad bit of the story? Was he flying a machine just like the one shown in the video with his buddy? What caused them to crash? Feel free to ignore me! 😊
I just came from a stall spiral fatal death of a pilot of one of these horrible things at an air show. He was 40 year experienced. You don't disrespect the fact you are in open air and start performing acrobatics. Respect the limits sir.
@@felixx321recover what? A catastrophic structural failure by needlessly stressing parts that are critical for safe, stable flight is a degree of homicide. If you’re solo in the aircraft that’s fine, but you have a responsibility to any passengers to not take unnecessary risks,
"Spiral drop of death." That's the way I want to go; with a forced smile on my face and knowing the endless chatter from a clown may be the last thing I will ever hear.
I bet the guy in the back actually considered choking the pilot to death just so he could savour the joyous 30 seconds of the pilot not talking like that before he also died.
It's almost like this guy is getting paid to offer a certain experience including _extremely_ minor aerobatics and a bit of comedy to keep the passenger lighthearted and then delivers on what he is getting paid for. Lock him up.
David Maccormack Jesus man don’t get so butt hurt from the guy to the point where you hope he dies!! You must be an extremely sensitive and emotional person to get that type of reaction from this video. Cheer up.
David Maccormack he’s just hamming it up for the camera. My guess he’s a skilled instructor with many many hours under his belt. Nothing outrageously dangerous here. Get a grip.
@@davidmaccormack7067 Yikes. Do I sense a little projection there? It's obviously the guys job, he takes tourists up and part of that job is to play it up for them, you're an idiot dude.
Having flown these craft since 1986 and travelled the world demonstrating these craft, I've seen flex wings lock into high-speed stalls, especially when fully loaded, take care! I lost 2 good friends doing such spirals close to the ground
Im not a violent person .but as soon as that landed .i would hurt that man .so that he never did it again .as idiots party tricks .is no joke when you can easly die .
Maneuvering close to the ground is a bad idea in any flying machine. Modern flex wings do not "lock into high speed stalls." The more common problem used to be tucking and tumbling, which was unrecoverable. This trike is factory built and certified to UK Section S under primary category. The wing is certified to +6g. This trike is also carrying a ballistic recovery system.
I knew a guy years back who was a pilot/instructor. He would say 'there are bold pilots and old pilots, but no old bold pilots' He flew some 60 years, until he misjudged a treetop at a rural airfield. He lived, but didn't fly again.
As a retired fire officer with an urban airfield on our ground I have been part of the crew that has had to remove two bodies from one of these things. They were seen having 'a bit of fun' just prior to making a decent sized hole in a ploughed field.
@@JJ-cf7nb Trikes are the motorcycles of the sky. If you want to get a job, you go fly ever larger aircraft and spend your time staring at instruments. If you want to have fun, you fly an ultralight. Trikes can have climbrates up to around 1500fpm, compare that to a Cessna 172 that has half that. Far from junk.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 I seriously doubt you’ve done hundreds of spins. If you had you’d know this isn’t one. It’s a spiral dive, the wing is still flying. Get back in your armchair.
There's old pilots and there's bold pilots...I lost a friend who flew like that. Both him and his passenger died in the crash, Reckless even to turn off the engine.
“It’s reckless to turn off the engine? Holly smokes…. I guess I better leave the engine running when I am flying my sailplane or one of my hang gliders. I guess I was reckless for eight hours straight when I flew a sailplane for that long with no engine.
He did everything according to the book. That was just a spiral down nothing too serious that craft can handle a lot more stress than that. And he did everything from very high with enough room to recover if he ran into issues. Always be 2 mistakes high. And he was 2 mistakes high. I would love to take a flip with him seems like a fun guy.
Hang gliders can take higher G Loads than a a passenger jet. This didn't seem that big of a deal. Doesn't mean I want to fly with him, I prefer to fly my own glider. Snapping a spar is a pretty rare event even among those who regularly do aerobatics. The vast majority of incidents occur during landing. Like any air craft, taking off is not to difficult, flying under good conditions is relatively easy, it is the landing phase where things start to get sketchy, and when things go south near the ground, that is the scary part. Much like riding a motorcycle, the driver should have the passenger's permission if hot rodding is going to be part of the trip. I myself am a terrible passenger and would NOT want to be involved in wing overs as a ride along.
As a LEO I responded to a local desert dry lake to a gyrocopter crash. I don’t know from what altitude the two men dropped but their skulls were so completely shattered that their heads were no longer round and were very flat and their brains had not just spilled out but had shot out because the gray matter was many feet away from the heads.
I don't think think that even if the operator, not going to call him a pilot. Were to read your comment. It would make a difference. This bonehead is on some sort of ego trip to death. Too bad he's trying to take someone with him. tsk tsk
@@briancaldwell6799 Piss of troll. This happened in the late 80’s or early 90’s on the dry lake bed on the outskirts of Boulder City Nevada just off Hwy 95. Why are there people out there who refuse to acknowledge that there are individuals in real life who have lived life, and accomplished goals, and careers. Oh, that’s right, because your generation is living in their parents basement, playing video games all day and masturbaiting to Internet porn.
I thought I was in danger the one time I was in a Baron with a pilot who was obviously drunk and nodding on opiates, especially when he fell asleep on short final, but after watching this guy I realize I had it pretty good.
Well the bolt is an 8.8 with a shear load of 50 ton. However the rest of the pipework is +4g, -2g limits and manoeuvres beyond the flight envelope result in either structural failure or inversion in which case 100% one way ticket to another dimension.
true story: my first flight ever was about 1979 - 1980, in a cessna. one of the Scout Troop leaders had a plane and took a few up at a time. he was all wild eyed, never stopped talking and had a messed up affect, just like this guy. stalled the plane, did stunts and didn't seem to really have any appreciation for the responsibility and gravity that should go along with flying a plane. I was 11 years old and I could easily discern what I was looking at. I wasn't nervous about flying at all - just nervous about being around him. within a few short months of the flight that i took, the "pilot" was arrested for trying to kill his wife for insurance money. real prince.
@@thelastrebelshow1627 exactly! Someone else noticed that. He literally just put the nose down and did a turning decent. I've done enough stall training of my own.
I'm a pilot now but many years ago -- I had a flight instructor take me on what's called an 'introductory flight' when they see if you want to actually train to be a pilot. The guy was kind of a cowboy, doesn't do the standard briefing, etc then once we're airborne says ,"do you want to go for a plane ride....or do you want to go for a REAL plane ride?" I was 18 and said ok sure let's go for a REAL plane ride. This guy proceeds to do stalls, steep turns, spins, wing overs, etc. He was cackling the whole time...felt very unprofessional and as the years have passed, I have decided that guys like that (and in the video) aren't doing this for YOUR enjoyment, they're doing it for THEIR enjoyment. There's a thrill in scaring people or wowing people with your skills. I don't care for it, but if the passenger in that video liked it, so be it.
My friend messed around with me like that in a Cessna during my first time in a small plane. He idled the engine and put it into a stall, let it drop then recovered. He was trying to show how safe/easy the plane was to fly. I get it, but words would have been good enough. I've never flown with him since.....
Licensed pilot here. Your friend was absolutely right. These little single engine planes are designed to be extremely stable and docile. As a pilot you must legally train these maneuvers, often many many times. It's not particularly dangerous unless you haven't been trained. I get that you may not have enjoyed the feeling. And pilots do acclimate to these types of things (turbulence, low, zero, and negative Gs), so he may have pushed you farther than you were comfortable with, but I can assure you that he did NOT endanger you in any way by doing this. This is not considered dangerous or reckless, and is even something pilots practice regularly.
@@gizmoguyar that's not true. General pilots licence I believe all the way to commercial you don't learn stall or spin recovery in the US. Maybe you learned a long time ago. But its no longer a requirement. Unfortunately so. Kills alot of pilots because of the lack of preparedness
@@krotchlickmeugh627 That's absolutely false. Under part 61 the FAA requires "stall recovery and avoidance demonstrations, as well as knowledge of (but not practice of) spins and spin recovery" for Light Sport Certificates and above. Spin recovery training was removed in 1991 because it was shown that more accidents occurred during training than the training prevented. The idea now is to train to avoid spins by avoiding stalls. Only CFI and above now require spin training. I never received spin training because I got my private pilot cert after 1991, but I and every pilot I've ever met has had stall avoidance and recovery training.
His electric trim allows for hands off flying ... that trutted wing probably handles +6G to -3G and they maybe did +3G at max ... motor off enhanses the experience ... and that avoids the tight turn gyroscopic stresses on the prop, gearbox and engine mount ... electric restart ok ... and it has a ballistic chute ... its all good ... trust me ...I'm an arm chair expert.
Just thinking about it.. he’s probably the same guy that put his kite together with half the bits he didn’t need in tool box on the ground. Stress and fatigue are real issues.. I bet he wouldn’t be so cocky when the wings fold up.
For me the scariest thing about this is the fact that the guy is relying on a single lap strap to hold him in to a non-enclosed flying vehicle. I mean I know the chance of pulling enough unintentional negative G is probably low, but I’d really prefer a bit more security than that!
I was thinking the same thing. When I was taking flying lessons my 2 uncles who were pilots said do a 720 sping (2 complete circles) and learn to pull out. My instructor said it wasn't FAA required. We did it and I learned a lot. Still flying today and yep still doing stalls and spins. Oh that was 50 years ago.
@@johnhunt7065 probably none it’s a powered hang glider for god sake‘s when you get instructional on one of these I don’t really think it’s to do loops and barrel rolls and high-speed maneuvers I think they show you go to behave yourself and not do stupid shit and adhere to a basic common sense approach to handling one of these
@@davemould4638 I do drive cars, and it does get crazy out there. But, I don't fly ultralights, parachute or run with the bulls. You do make a good point, and I have to practice suspending my imagination when I drive.
@@pcm7315 Amazing as it may sound to you, there is a lower probability of serious injury or death while flying or skydiving than when driving a car in the suburbs. Your fear is probably fear of the unknown. If you were to do the training to become a pilot or skydiver, you would gain some understanding of exactly what risks there are and are not, and probably lose your fear. But of course its not something that you should do if you have no interest in those activities, as there would be no point.
My flight instructor once told me: “....there are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are NO old, bold pilots....”. Idiot show off WILL kill someone someday....
It was a turning descent. He called it acro but it wasn't even acro. He operated within the aircraft's design parameters and his abilities and he did it with plenty enough altitude to spare. What did he do wrong? You are aware that companies design, build, and sell aircraft for the sole purpose of acro, right?
@@twistedpixel2558 This wing is absolutely not certified for acro, no hangglider is. That said what was being done here is nothing crazy, the wing is rated at 6g positive, so it's not going to break just by doing a basic wingover and some loaded turns.
As a qualified flexwing pilot, this scares the hell out of me. It is totally irresponsible and stupid to fly in such a manner, especially with a passenger who puts his complete faith and trust in the PIC when he straps in. G-BZJF was a P&M Quantum-15 which suffered a tumble and break-up in the UK a few years ago because of similar antics according to the accident report, killing the pax and PIC.
@@ecoturismovalle1570 Actually, some microlights DO have parachutes called Ballistic Recovery Systems. These are parachutes fitted to the trike or fuselage of a 3-axis microlight that can be activated in the event of a catastrophic failure. It allows the whole aircraft and contents to float to the ground. It is very unlikely though to save a flexwing suffering a tumble and break-up due to the extreme g-forces involved and the speed at which it happens. The BEST plan is to keep well clear of the boundary of the flight envelope that ends in a tumble.
You call yourself a qualified flexwing pilot? As in you can carry a passenger? If not you don't need a license, and if so you need a private rating. You would call yourself a pilot. And if you were actually qualified you would know nothing he did was dangerous. It was a paid show, for entertainment, like he said the worst thing he did was the "death spiral" give me a break. Engine off, 2000 feet per minute decent rate, in a shollow turn, from 5000 to 3000 ft. Almost weightless, definitely no G's or very little. Could do that all day every day. Scariest thing about it is what he calls it. As part of his SHOW . Oh and yes that is why he shut the engine down.... For safety so he wouldn't over speed. I would guess he never got over 50 or 50 mph.
@@gt4th Do you actually fly a flexwing in the UK? If you did, you would know the rules and licencing that applies to allow you to fly one legally in the UK. This is a 2-seat machine with a max take-off weight of probably 450Kg or thereabouts so in the UK needs an annual Permit to Fly and the pilot is required to hold a Pilots Licence issued by the UK CAA. There is no way a first-time passenger should be subject to such manoeuvres and a spiral dive will pull probably a couple of g. The scariest thing he did is the accelerated or "whip" stall which IF you are qualified to fly a flexwing you will know is a killer! His attitude, manner of flying and "showing off" will end in tears one way or another.
Pilot "Plus I forgot to mention, at the end of our flight, now that we're on the ground, as a surprise special treat, we check our underwear and get two large surprise brownies! No extra charge, you all come back now ya hear?"
@@thelastrebelshow1627 Maybe he was not at immediate risk, but playing the fool and showing off at 5000 feet is just idiotic, especially with a passenger on board. Not cool.
@@jimhunt4874 NO! You’re just a total wimp! What he’s suppose to fly wings level and straight forward at all times? Does the passenger look concerned? Do you see the ballistic parachute attached to the trike? Ever herd of aerobatics? Even birds play in flight! Do us all a favor and stay in your house where you belong! 😹
@@jimhunt4874 5000 feet is exactly where you do aerobatic maneuvers ! You’re just showing you know nothing! You sure don’t do them at low altitudes! You’re a disgrace to men!
My first experience FLYING an aircraft was in 1981...my dad and I got trained in ultra lights...we joined a club..got our training in the QUICK SILVER MX...had to give it all up when the club bellied up..after that I got my private pilots LICENSE..but my ultra light training helped alot
I love to see the reaction from the manufacturer Airborne. I know the wing is capable to handle the loads but if you are consistently doing this on your flights, I trust you are thoroughly versed on checking for fatigue, deformation of the bolt holes etc. I’m not being negative, just concerned how far you push it with a paying customer
The problem is to check the spars and fittings that have the greatest compression loads are inside the wing., and not visible to the naked eye. I’ve lost a friend doing similar manoeuvres, had a structural failure and not even a ballistic chute saved him. I’m sure he is a great pilot and does take every precaution but as you get closer to the edge of the envelope with a passenger, risk is a factor that must be taken into account, not just for yourself.
@Kim Kemal - totally agree with you. Stress on a hanglider/ultralight wing in this way (especially with two onboard) is a lot higher than this clown appreciates. I have seen foldups before - they are ugly and heart-wrenching. Both pilots in those incidents were very experienced - one was performing acrobatics, the other was hit by a gust of wind. One guy died. The other pilot, a woman, fortunately had sufficient altitude to use a reserve ‘chute but her injuries were bad. She never flew again as a result.
I'd always fancied a bit of the old microlight, but this havering git has managed to cure me completely of any such aspiration. On the other hand, the more time he can spend somewhere up in the sky, preferably on his own, the better.
I'd take that unfit-for-flight 1940 Taylorcraft Trevor Jacob flew, in that condition, any time before getting into an ultralight, goddamn those things are scary.
Wait did he say with 'aerobatics included'? So He admits he was carrying out aerobatic manoeuvres? I don't know how it works in the US, but over in the UK microlights aren't permitted to carry out ANY aerobatics. Wingovers not exceeding 60 degrees are about as much as we're allowed to do.
Plot twist: exceeds do not exceed limit for his craft, aluminum bars snap, nylon shreds and they plunge to their deaths with that jackass laughing gleefully.
Clowning around in any aircraft, particularly with an inexperienced passenger is to be frowned upon and when it gets to pretending to fall out of the aircraft, this type of "showing-off" is a positive no-no and he should be reprimanded at least, if not, have his licence revoked.
@@ChadDidNothingWrong License suspended for a while will give him time to think. Total revoking may not be in order, if he learns a valuable lesson. If we think if that as controlling, great. Maybe he needs someone to put him into check befire he kills someone or himself.
@@watcher818 -Countless countries/nations/cultures around the globe are "Totally safe, For the People's own good", their Controllers do Not allow this..., Or Anything else ;{
I'm a 2000 hour pilot, with about 800 hours in a Quicksilver MX, most of the rest in taildraggers like the Cub and Globe Swift. I would never fly with this guy.
No comment, I would never subject a passenger to that, much less in a ‘flying lawn chair’. That is stuff you do on your own in a type certified aircraft.
@@quattro4468 Obviously you have no experience in trikes. His maneuvers were all within the limits of the aircraft. If you want to see some crazy flying in a fabric aircraft. Look up the Dragonfly Aerotug. Now that will scare the bejesus out of you,
Obviously you have no experience in trikes. His maneuvers were all within the limits of the aircraft. If you want to see some crazy flying in a fabric aircraft. Look up the Dragonfly Aerotug. Now that will scare the bejesus out of you,
This reminds of the granny connected to her instructor but they forget click all her buckles. He was basically trying to hold onto her as she had slipped out of her harness. Still amazes me she did not break every bone upon landing. There is a vid.
I can only imagine the strain on that light structure and the fabric that sits above it in the sun.. Pulling significant G with the weight of a passenger plus motor doesn’t seem right. The pilot has to do a cost benefit analysis on risk versus his marketing strategy for RU-vid.
