I've always found that you need to ensure you can more or less cover the distance in a single weeks training miles that you want to run in one go. That format has always served me.
That's my rule too! Until 55k it worked ok, but I am not sure it still holds for the 100 miles. The uphill athlete training book (Steve House, Scott Johnston, Kilian Jornet) recommends 100k average over the 12 longest weeks, with a peak between 145-160k
Number 1 rule ! Don’t get totally smashed the night before a 100km race and wake up severely hungover and with 3 hrs sleep then missing your taxi then having to walk 7 miles to the start like I did 😞
How bad do you want it?! (Enough said). If it's a higher priority to get shit faced the night before than it is to prepare for the run, that speaks volumes.
. I was staying in a hotel and met other people while were also running the event and it was a hot day and we just ended up getting on it . Still managed too finish so that says something about my willingness to complete it even though I could have stopped at any time
Thanks for the advice. I'm a 56 year old man. Out of shape but getting back into it. Most I've ever run was 30. But for the past year I've moved down to Texas and am motivated to do a 50 miler in the Texas Hill Country with the support of just one or two more people. Again, thanks for the advice and wish me luck : )
@@TheRunExperience Hi I did the first one, but only managed 26 miles because it was so boggy and I spent more time slowing down to find a way through the bogs. But, I've not let it put me off I've signed up for 100k in June and hoping to do it all this time. So thanks for all your tips. If covid doesn't get in the way the next one is June 2021
Thanks I am hoping maybe first race is a 100mile. I watched some RU-vid videos and figured it will be a good way to quit smoking. I already quit heroin and I lived in a broken down car for 4 years in Minnesota. I choose running because my sister who is a marathon runner referred to a runner as just a half marathon runner. Now I have to run an ultra and refer to someone as just a marathon runner jokingly of course and to teach a lesson. At least I am doing better than I thought I would, my fourth run I ran 15miles at a 7:43 pace.
Great stuff. One thing I've never really understood though is the hand-held bottle. For me, a camel back is just so much better - it achieves the same goal (make it easy to drink). But with the added benefit of likely being more efficient energy-wise, since it basically sit right at your center of gravity. The hand-held is way out there at the end of your arm, meaning you need to expand more energy. And then (though I guess that comes with habit), idk, I'm always sort of annoyed whenI have to hold stuff in my hands while running. My mind keeps getting back to it, and it somewhat detracts from just enjoying the run.
Maxime Lafond lol but the video says “for newbies” lol. I’m sure a newbie is starting off with a 50k or something rather then starting off with a 100miler
Strong suggestion I just learned this weekend: if it's hot, drink a lot at the aid station. Between the second and third stops, the sun got really hot and I ran out of water. Hindsight, I should have topped up completely at the water point part way between, and done the camel thing at stop 1.
I'm one month away from my first ultra which has a 6 hour time limit. I'm in a running club with a bunch of experienced ultra runners. They had me working up to being on my feet for 6 hours and this race starts at 7pm so I've done a 6 hour training run in the dark. And with each 6hr practice run I've done more miles.
I signed up for 50km this coming December. It's my first 50km run and excited but a bit nervous since i usually have problems with cramps on long distance run 😭.
Magnesium will be ur savior for the cramps. I come from long distance cycling and 24hr mountain bike racing and have never cramped whilst racing or training. Load up morning and evening leading up to the race and make sure ur electrolyte drink contains magnesium 👍🏻
I swear, I can get lost running around a 400 m track. If I ever decide to train for an ultra, there's a good chance I could start out intending to run for 5 hours and end up staying out there for 5 days after missing the same few turns thousands and thousands of times over :)
I'm 16 years old and I want to run a 100 mile race before I turn 18 (mid September 2021). I've ran 2 marathons so far and I'm signed up for a 50k in December.
I would LOVE to see the female equivalent of this from y’all. ie: women’s shoes, sports bras, hair bands, PMS and running.....ect. Thank you, this was really great!❤️
Good video. Nike may have too low drop for the beginners. If someone is thinking about 50k trail running then during this six months of preparation I would suggest taking part in one race a month for example in flat half-marathons and for sure one mountiain trail with the lenght about 35 km.
6 months out, 50 mile weeks to start training... We must have different definitions of a newbie. My first 50K was 2.5 months after the first day I stared running, first 50 miler was 2 months after that. I certainly did not start as a newbie with 50 miles a week with race 6 months away. This is early in your video and I hope it doesn’t discourage new runners from getting after it and taking the leap to ultras.
Thanks for commenting- that's a good point! You certainly don't need to be running such high mileage weeks when training for and racing ultras. Mileage is very dependent on the individual runner!
Did my first ultra marathon 49yrs old, 35 miles, did my training at mission peak Fremont, ca. And around my neighborhood, before the pendemic started, did a few half marathon as my long runs, and short runs around during the week, my biggest let down was staying focused after 20 or even before that, started training for my 50 mile thinking in doing it by the end of the year, what do you recommend to stay focus during the ups and down and to stay motivated during during the crunching time.
thanks im currently struggling with running last year i could run for a minute on a treadmill stop for a minute and then repeat for 10~15 minutes tops now i can run the whole time without needing a minute to stop if i slow down a bit thanks to quitting cigarettes i was wondering how do people run for an hour without running out of breath but i guess it just has to come naturally after training great video btw👍
I don't go to the gym, but recently I did 1/2 mile jogging on a treadmil, only cardio being rental bikes Keep in mind i'm completely out of shape I just wanna get to running 25 miles comfortably I'm also getting into calistenics after that I might branch out to other sports Parkour, MMA, Mountain climbing etc etc
Awesome! Love that you're so motivated :) We have a bunch of beginner running videos on the channel that can help you start getting your running fitness up. Here's one to get you started! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ILEqwlZqY6A.html
good job! :) instead of spreading your attention to too many sports at once, stick with 1-2 and focus on those. personally I hated running, never really tried that, but when went out for a 1-2km I was exhausted in 10 minutes. Then I put the effort in, learned about pacing and CONSISTENCY. In the last 3 months I ran 3 times EVERY SINGLE WEEK, not using cold, snow, anything as an excuse, just showed up. Now I am comfortably running 10k (6.2miles) without a second of stop. Already signed up for a 10k race, and definitely will run a Half Marathon this year. Regarding the out of shape part of your comments, please DO focus on your eating, that is most important of all. I know YOU CAN run 26.2 miles. Everybody can! :) keep it up!
I had a much better long run recently when I turned my run log app to slilent. Not having updates on my pace helped stopped the instinct to beat my last run. I didn't bother with music either and felt more 'in tune' (pardon the pun!) with what my body was doing.
Good discovery! Music can be great, but sometimes we run better when we let ourselves be present, check-in with our body, and really fall into the "zone".
I fully agree. Since I'm 'forced' to run on a busier road due to my living location, I decided to ditch the music. After just a couple runs, I got completely used to it and I feel it has improved my running. I tend to listen to my body more instead of the rythm of the song.
So glad i found you guys. I just did my first marathon and totally screwed myself by not hydrating properly, I crossed that line and got my finisher medal but it was a total struggle.. I love you guys channel, it's full of so many good information. The next one I do I'm crushing it..
Are you refilling your handheld with the soft flasks during your long runs? How do you utilize both the naked belt and the handheld? Thanks in advance!
Hi Kalikrit, I don't use any type of heart rate monitor during my races. I find that I run better when I just listen to my body. With all the training for 100's you should be able to dial in when you need to slow down and when you can push. Hope that helps!
I typically do the weight training after the runs or separately. The reason I don't weight train before is because I don't want my form to suffer due to fatigue from lifting. Hope this helps!
I don't weight train legs since sprinting or training at peak heart rate and lactic treshold provides same stress on all three types of muscle fibres in legs as weight training does, thus induces same amount of hypertrophy. +Training at high pace in lactic threshold rate or at peak heart rate, heightens your speed and tempo since you reduce involuntary muscle inhibition. I do train upper body and core three times a week just to maintain strength. Important is to train within a low repetition range where you feel your muscles getting sore (lactic acid), this will induce hypertrophy/muscle growth. Basically do your slows very slow to build aerobic capacity and your hards very hard to push your limit and induce strength. Just set a goal and you will see results, your body will adapt. If you do both long and slow and easy next to hard and fast and short you will see complementary results.
Hey! Thanks for the video! Very cool stuff. I was wondering how can someone with a full time job find the time for longer run training except over the weekend? I could technically run for 4 hours but i woul br either too tired to do it every day after work, or couldn’t wake up next day for work.
IMHO long runs should only be 1-2 days per week according to every training program and expert advice I've seen or heard, especially for newbies to long distances. my running club has been running a large 1st time marathon programs for years and has nearly 100% success rate. even for ultra's I don't think newbies or normal runners should overdo it.
Thnx for the tips. I’m doing a 50k on a weeks notice. Gonna have to white knuckle through that shit 😂 Update- took me a little over 8 hrs to do roughly 31 Miles
I would like to learn more about how to figure out pacing as well as race day nutrition strategy. I’m experienced at road marathons but I have no idea how much slower I need to go to conserve energy if I want to go three or four times that distance on trails with much greater elevation. Also, what should your longest training run be? If you are planning to race 50 miles should you try to run at least 35, for example?
Yes, I'd definitely recommend doing at least a 50K before 50 miler, but it's not required. You don't need to do a bunch of crazy long runs that break you down, you just need to get time on feet in and understand how your body is going to adapt when things get hard.
I like this question but try not to worry yourself. If you are experienced at road marathons don’t fret you have done the hard work. Find nutrition you can swallow when you don’t feel like eating. Every 25-30 miles find some sort of real food. I find cream rice with jam good. Things like chicken noodle soup too. Conserving energy. Ha! Prepare to bonk. Get to know what it feels like and either avoid it by eating (I like a caffeine gel + real food) taking electrolytes (caps) and drinking. If you can mentality get through it you’re fine. Most marathon runners think it’s over at that point. I’ve been at that stage 2-3 times through a 200 miler and it just feels normal now. Training distance: whatever. Think time on your feet not distance. If it’s a hilly course go for a 12 hour fast hike in your nearest mountains. That’s probably better than running for 8 hours as you probably know how to run by now (most runners are crap at walking fast especially up hills!)
1. No. You will die 15 miles into your first Ultra. 2. The only thing that can replace caffeinated coffee is a double chocolate sundae personally served by your imaginary pet cappucin monkey.
definitely not close to race day. Typical marathon training schedules will have you doing your longest run 2 or even3 weeks before the event and then tapering the number of miles you're running over the next two to three weeks. The week before the event, you should run very few miles and no running at all the day before, or even a couple of days before. Different schools of thought regarding what should be your longest training run, but I believe most say that your longest training run does not need to be as long as the event you're planning to do.
The dreaded "bonk" (also known as "hitting the wall") is a sudden loss of what feels like *all* of your energy! It is often caused by not enough or improper fueling.
@@TheRunExperience Oh! Ok, that makes sense. I've just been hearing that term used as an action lately and had no idea where it came from. "Hitting the wall" is a phrase I am familiar with, though. Thanks!
Sometimes I skip runnning day for weight training but i feel like I want to go out and run but I want to do the weight trainning also. Is it safe to do both in the same day?? Thanks.Great tips though. enjoy it.
Thanks for the tips! I plan to do my first trail ultra next year but still confused about the water backpack, should I get myself a smaller backpack without the reservoir or with the reservoir complete with the drinking tube on it??
Hi Conan, that is definitely a personal preference. I like the packs without the reservoir because they are easier to fill up but if you are going to do longer runs without many water stops you'll probably need a reservoir. Hope this helps and good luck on your first ultra!
Alex Ho hey Alex! I would choose the one with reservoir then and turns out the trail race I'm about to sign up for has some points system in it so for a beginner like me they won't allow me to sign at thee biggest category which kinda disappoint me but for my own safety I'll go with it!
Conan, it's totally up to you! Some people prefer to have handheld bottles for ease of filling them up at the aid stations and to not have anything on their back. Others don't like to hold on to something for hours, and prefer a light pack with a bladder/reservoir.
My suggestion is to get one with a reservoir. You can always just take it out and use the space for gear but if you enter a race that will require more fluids, you’ll have it and won’t have to buy a whole new pack.
i love my Nathan VaporZach vest it has enough water for MY longest runs and has plenty of space for a light waterproof, windbreaker, and food, phone, etc. And no sloshing like many reservoirs plus i love how there's two separate bottles to have one with water and one with electrolytes
Feel Good That would be unpleasant, but yes it can be. A better solution is the get the sodium from your food. Add a inch of salt to a meal etc. Remember that you will need more of every nutrient, even salt, because you're training for endurance sports and exert more salt through your sweat.
Might be a stupid question but how do runners know exactly where to run on trail? Are 50/100milers pretty well marked off so runners don't get lost as they run check point to check point or do they need to have a GPS enabled watch (or something else) that has the track marked off for them? Thanks
Not a stupid question! Generally, trail races will have the route marked with little colored flags along the trail or with colored tape tied around branches, trail signposts, etc.
Marc - that stood out to me, too. I have a friend who regularly finishes top 15 in 50k and 100k races. I watch his training runs on Strava ... he knocks out 8 mi at a 7:15mm pace and his heart is barely ticking over (145bpm) ... When he is training, He’ll do that 3-4 times a week plus 20+ miles on the weekend - 44 to 70 miles a week. That is so daunting to me as a noob. My cruising speed is more like 10:00mm, so his 8mi training run would take me 20-30 minutes longer to complete. I decided to train by matching his time running, not his distance - so 1h running max for weekday runs and 2-3h on the weekends.
@@BrienMalone I feel you man. I'm with the slow gang too, and it takes me 1 or 2 hours more than most of my friends to get my weekly 60m... You just got to embrace it, that's more time on the trails :)
I'm training for my first ultra, a 30 mile distance. Due to some injury issues, I'm under prepared. The race is August 31, a little over three weeks away. Any advise on how to catch up? My previous longest race is 16 miles.
I didn’t train & completed 3 100km trail run but suffered a lot.Now I want to train for UTMB 171km if balloting get through as I got 15points now .Wish me lucks 😝
Cameron Carter Look into “parkrun” on Saturday mornings. Free timed 5km runs every week (not during C19, obviously). Get yourself under 30 minutes for 5km and 13 mins for 2.4km (1.5 mile) will be easily achieved.
If your running every day you are not going hard enough on certain days. Just my opinion. While recovering from long runs do bike rides. It's the stress of running that takes recovery time which is close to non existent with cycling.
@@hisoka8800 goggins is a great athlete but he's good at what he does he's not a top guy in ultra distance running as far as times go but he does complete stuff. Same with dean karnazes he's a step above goggins but do some research he's not doing record times unless he's making a unique course/event
Rest days are even more important as you get older. Me personally, I don't like to go out on a run if I have sore muscles from a prior hard run or long run. I like running every other day, and even making one of those "other" days a bicycling day, so run one day, rest next day, bicycle next day, rest the day after that, then run again, and repeat.
How does the 50 miler compare to an Ironman event? I’m tempted to train for a 50 miler, but man, running is hard. I’ve done 3 full IM’s, and many half fulls. Thoughts?
Bob Arsenault I have done two ironmans and one ultra so far. The ultra was 69 miles and I found it tougher than the Ironman, I think because it’s just one thing.
I’m pretty sure I had that after a big race. I rested for a few days then started swimming and also did some water running and it got a lot better. Also did some strength training for hamstrings. Hopefully you are over it already.
Shoes are so individual that it's always best to head to a local running store where they'll be able to analyze your foot and gait and make recommendations from there :)
If you're under 18, race organizers have to follow liability and insurance rules that have those age limits. In the mean time, you can always go out for training runs on the trails!
For nutrition ditch the carbs...switch to the Keto Diet and get into ketosis. Do the research...it benefits long duration activities. It makes long runs easy. Carbs benefits more of the explosive movements. The science is there...not sure why people continue to load up on carbs unless you like to eat those foods but understand you are making it harder on yourself...performance wise.
