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ULTRASONIC Bike Cleaning, save time and money!! 

Trace Velo
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I’ve been using a cheap ebay ultrasonic cleaner to clean the drive chain (cassette and chain), on my carbon commuter bike for over a year now.
It’s been fantastic and I use it all the time, but is it something you should consider buying?
I’ll be going into detail around the ultrasonic cleaner I chose, the pros and cons, and whether you should pick one up yourself!
Got any questions or comments, stick them below 👇 and I'll try and get back to as many of you as I can!
Timestamps:
00:41 - Intro
02:13 - Cleaner Specs
02:57 - Drive Chain Wear
06:08 - New vs Worn Cassette
07:38 - Cleaning Steps
08:37 - Issues With Ultrasonic Cleaners
10:33 - Should I Get One?
Oz Cycle video on drive chain cleaning:
• Best homemade chain cl...
Product links (please note, I have no affiliation to any of the sellers or products shown):
Ultrasonic Cleaners: tinyurl.com/we...
Degreaser: tinyurl.com/se...
Chain Wear Tool: tinyurl.com/ta...
Intro roll:
Created by Dev Joshi - www.go2dev.co.uk
Music:
Birocratic - Fresh Healthy Perspectives
Birocratic - If I Tried (Original Mix)
About Trace Velo:
I love cycling, and I love getting pro cycling kit for less. If it’s cheap, from China, and made of carbon fibre, I’m interested!
Instagram:
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Email:
tracevelouk@gmail.com
Please note:
All products demonstrated in this video have been purchased by me, and I have no affiliation to any of the sellers or vendors shown.
In addition, I am not a professionally trained bike mechanic. There can be risks associated with using products that are unbranded, untested, or come from sources where the provenance is unknown. Please talk to a qualified bike mechanic if you are in any doubt.
In essence, be careful, do your research, and cycle safe!!!

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@Arfonfree
@Arfonfree 4 года назад
Finally a bike channel for those of us without access to the proceeds of a major bank robbery!
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Год назад
All able bodied people should rob at least one bank
@sethleigh8850
@sethleigh8850 4 года назад
For cleaning chains with an ultrasonic cleaner I find a very handy method is to put your cleaning solution (I use mineral spirits) in an empty jar, put the chain in the jar, then put the jar into the water bath in the ultrasonic cleaner. When you're done you just remove the jar and store it with the lid on for the next time. You've kept the water clean in the ultrasonic cleaner's water bath, so you can just dump it out and don't have the hassle of cleaning oily/greasy cleaning solution from the ultrasonic cleaner. For parts that won't fit into a jar you'll just put them into the ultrasonic cleaner as shown in this video, but for parts like chains that will fit into a jar, this saves some time and hassle.
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 2 года назад
I use ziplock baggies - glass bottles lessen the US waves that hit the chain/part. Baggies dampen the waves as well, but not as much.
@thebelgiangardener184
@thebelgiangardener184 Год назад
Oooô⁰ooppooo⁰
@Alex-kr7zr
@Alex-kr7zr Год назад
Use a coffee filter to filter the cleaning solution (I use cleaning benzine) afterward to get rid of the dirt before reuse. I give it a second run to completely clean it.
@Alex-kr7zr
@Alex-kr7zr Год назад
@@workingguy6666 Good to know, but I'm unsure about putting benzine into ziplock bags. Maybe a plastic jar will do the trick as well?
@franccca
@franccca 4 года назад
Because of you I am OBSESSED with CHINESE CHEAP CARBON FIBER!!!!!!!!!!!!
@PSGpaintball4LYFE
@PSGpaintball4LYFE 4 года назад
Holy shit, me fucking toooooooooooooooooooo!@
@WillBeebe
@WillBeebe 4 года назад
I'm on the train as well! Thanks for doing the research and R&D to make carbon tech available to enthusiasts like me who don't have 12k to drop on branded bike.
@callemacody
@callemacody 3 года назад
Do you guys have any "best of chinese carbon finds"? I myself love my handlebar, stem, seat and seapost. what else should i try?
@Alejandro_BoniIIa
@Alejandro_BoniIIa 3 года назад
@@callemacody I’ve got a seat post and saddle. Both look amazing and are lightweight. Not sure what to get next
@UltraNyan
@UltraNyan 3 года назад
Protip: never cheap out with underfilling your ultrasonic cleaner, it will kill your cleaner's container. Instead fill it with plain water and throw your parts into a plastic bag with your cleaning agent. The sonic waves will mostly go through the bag anyway. You dont make a big mess and dont have to clean the container all the time. Keeping stuff sealed in plastic bags or jars will avoid any toxic fumes going around your living quarters. They also sell professional made bags that increase the effects of the ultrasonic cleaning by creating small bubbles on its inner surface.
@ch3xmix
@ch3xmix 4 года назад
My favorite cycling channel by far
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Thanks ch3xmix!!!
@simon1234567ful
@simon1234567ful 4 года назад
Nah man this channel makes cycling too accessible... we need more channels that talk about cheap wheelsets costing "only" 1800£ 😂😂
@overthetarget9401
@overthetarget9401 3 года назад
Agreed, as always Luke has carved quite the interesting and informative niche for himself. Others try to be funny, he actually really is, in a very likeable way. Top bloke, top content.
@fat_pantani
@fat_pantani 4 года назад
I was also once told to agitate the dirt on my drive-train. After 3 hours of uncomfortably staring and shouting at it it was still just as dirty. Go figure. :D
@petef15
@petef15 4 года назад
Trace say 'drive the train' - 'drive the train' Now say it without 'the' - 'drive train' Now say 'drivetrain' - 'drivechain'
@graemehill
@graemehill 4 года назад
I always thought it was just a mispronunciation of drivetrain but he actually spelled it “drivechain” in the video. Is that a word?
@kennethstreet7868
@kennethstreet7868 4 года назад
No, its an ill met contraction.
@bws833
@bws833 2 года назад
"A freshly cleaned drivechain is a joy to ride." Agree 100%, the best reason of all. 👍👍👍
@pugmandan215
@pugmandan215 4 года назад
Thanks Trace. I've got a ultrasonic cleaner and love using it. One thing I have found is when I offered to help clean a friends bike, their chain was so thick with crud that it barely shifted anything in the cleaner. When keeping on top of maintenance nothing beats it.
@kcrymble
@kcrymble 4 года назад
Had one for a couple of months. Love it. Good tip is that you can put stuff in jars inside the water and it'll still work - so e.g. a jam jar with some stronger detergent in it with a chain, at the same time as some other parts in the main tank.
@SniperSnake50BMG
@SniperSnake50BMG 4 года назад
good that you know Oz cycle I ALWAYS lube the chain with PTFE wax.
@GADonMc
@GADonMc 4 года назад
And never have to clean it.
@SniperSnake50BMG
@SniperSnake50BMG 4 года назад
@@GADonMc yeah pretty much! Just hot water, dip again in the ptfe wax and done!
@kevinfrost1579
@kevinfrost1579 Год назад
My top tip is experiment first with sacrificial (damaged / broken) parts, especially anodised parts. Hard lesson learnt today using ultrasonic cleaner for first time. Plain metal parts no problem. Clear coated chrome more tricky (even with diluted cleaner - identical liquid to Luke ) First mix ineffective not much cleaning. Second mix managed to remove outer clear coat and replace it with a black film coat. Not a total disaster but made lots of extra work having to scrub the black film coat off and re-polish all the parts on the buffer wheel. Also no clear coat protective top coat for time being Will ceramic spray in due course . Key to work out for individual types of parts what mix they will tolerate and what duration and what intensity of clean (if you have full power / delicates choice). Once that’s nailed it’s a bit of kit that will pay it’s way for sure 👍
@stevesnailfish
@stevesnailfish 3 года назад
You mentioned researching these ultrasonic cleaners and I was when I stumbled across this video.... I ride off-road on CX, gravel and MTB's virtually all of the time but have the token road bike in the collection (6 different bikes) and am now convinced I need one of these as. as your good self, live in a flat !!! The amount of wear on the drivetrain is very noticeable when you off-road as the grit, mud and general rubbish really is there !!! In a flat, you have to clean by hand, which can be a laborious process but it's what you do.... By the way, using wax chain lube really does make a difference to the state of the grinding paste you mentioned and really worth a go....I was using wet and dry lubes for decades before starting to use this a year ago and, even in muddy winter conditions on MTB's, it doesn't cak up the jockey wheels on the rear mech.... I'll have to get a large capacity one as I have some rather big cassettes as I run 1x on 5 bikes.....Gotta get summat to fit a 12 speed SRAM Eagle 11-50 on my full suss trail bike !!! After this video, I am convinced that I would save a lot of cash and the unit would pay for itself very swiftly
@ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137
@ghjgjihjgjyrdrgydsgr137 5 месяцев назад
This video contains the best explanation I've heard so far of why and how not staying on top of cleaning your chain accelerates wear.
@cosinus_square
@cosinus_square 4 года назад
As long as your cassette fits in the container, any ultrasonic cleaner will do the job. I paid some £8 for a small used jewelry ultrasonic cleaner on eBay and had it for years. Hands down, best cleaning tool you can buy for your bike.
@PinInCruiZ
@PinInCruiZ 4 года назад
I actually have a smaller 1l cleaner like this, never thought I could clean drive train w/this! Can confirm the sound it makes is demonic!
@Huzaliproductions
@Huzaliproductions 4 года назад
How is it working for you? Is it one with 50W heating and 60W Ultrasonic power?
@nurashidnoormohamad3572
@nurashidnoormohamad3572 3 года назад
Thanks for the info man,
@justbikewatch
@justbikewatch 3 года назад
Daaaaang.. just spent 4hs cleaning my whole drivetrain... And it is still dirty as F... Will buy one of this ASAP!! Thanks Luuuuuuke!!!
@wildmage79
@wildmage79 4 года назад
You should join the GCN team, I think they are still looking for more announcers/hosts/tech people.
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Working for GCN would be pretty freaking amazing. Not sure my obsession with cut price carbon would sit well with their sponsors tho 😋
@wildmage79
@wildmage79 4 года назад
@@TraceVelo That's a good point but maybe the sponsors will send you free things to change your mind and then you can make a video entitled "Why I Was Wrong About Cheap Chinese Carbon" but you secretly kept your Chinese Carbon bike behind that door like a dirty little secret and you only ride it under the cover of night wearing a mask and there's your superhero origin story.
@jensenhealey907efi
@jensenhealey907efi 4 года назад
I bought a used set of Shimano 105 shifters off ebay a few months ago and the previous owner had loaded up one of the shifters with spray lithium lube probably in an effort to try solving some rough shifting issue. I borrowed an ultrasonic cleaner from a friend and popped the shifters into the cleaner with some WD-40 and after a short period of time, they came out squeaky clean and they shifted great after being cleaned. So yes, I too can endorse using ultrasonic cleaners with bike parts.
@larisonjohnson
@larisonjohnson 4 года назад
I love my ultrasonic cleaner. I use it with just water to remove any trace of degreaser fro my chain before a quick rinse in alcohol and then straight into a PTFR wax bath for 30 mins. Works great on screws, keys, jewelry and even glasses!
@userthor7386
@userthor7386 Год назад
Do not throw in anodized parts (eg casette with Black cogs) the anodized collor will fade/dissapear. Other than that, its absolutely stunning
@romanpramuka2703
@romanpramuka2703 4 года назад
Interesting to hear about noisy waxed chain, guys from gcn also noticed this, but since I started waxing my chain last summer, my drivetrain is perfectly smooth and quiet. The key is absolutely clean and degreased chain before waxing.
@criticalthought7527
@criticalthought7527 3 года назад
Agreed, sometimes I add just a bit of glycerine for a softer quieter wax treatment. Most of the time I just use plain paraffin. I find that I need to keep the chain direction and orientation constant from treatment to treatment or I will get noise initially. I think taking care of keeping the chain in the same orientation extends the life of the chain as well. For me wax in the rain is not worth it, as does not seem to last very long in the wet.
@horrovac
@horrovac 4 года назад
If you want a clean drivetrain use dry lube. Apply after ultrasonically cleaning your chain. It is essentially a very thick oil with solvent in it. Apply generously (most people make the mistake of applying too little and end up with a noisy chain), spin the pedals (slowly, otherwise it flies off) to make sure it penetrates well, and let it stand for about 5 minutes so the solvent can evaporate. Then - this is important - wipe the chain down as well as you can. Use a rag, or better still, an old towel. The chain should be as dry as possible on the outside, then it collects almost no dirt. The only drawback is that you need to apply it about twice as often as you do with a wet lube. If you are riding long-distance, a couple of hundreds of kilometres, you may have to take a small bottle along to top up along the way.
@Alex-kr7zr
@Alex-kr7zr Год назад
Or even better chain wax. Keeps your chain even cleaner and no need to do any re-cleaning other than wiping the flakes off.
@r.taylorgarlock560
@r.taylorgarlock560 4 года назад
Maybe do a follow up vid with wear measurements to really show the haters? Great work!
@richard7059
@richard7059 4 года назад
This might sound appalling but as a motorcycle courier in Melbourne Australia for 8 years we came to the conclusion in the end the best and cheapest and greenist form of chain oil was simply sump oil . Strain it , put it in a old style pump engineering squirt container and apply to rollers . Because it’s so thin it penetrates easily and couple of fast revolutions before riding flings off excess and you wipe chain with paper towelling and good to go . Free chain oil and free service on your car to collect it . Win win . Doesn’t attract fa grime as not sticky and chain stays clean for ages . Just need to apply regularly as thin . 500,000 km of R&D lol 😂
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
This is definitely a bit unorthodox, but I love it! Sump oil, amazing hack!
@Yosser70
@Yosser70 4 года назад
Chain wax is really good. Lasts ages and is “quicker” than normal lubricant. Weirdly, the noise you get from a waxed chain is a good thing because it means it’s not sticking together like it does with other lubricant. Now we are talking small amounts that in reality mean nothing to normal riders but the sticking that lubricants cause actually increases resistance in your drivetrain, meaning you have to produce more power to turn it. Wax doesn’t do this and is therefore actually smother to ride :) Oz cycles videos on the diy wax are very good and I’ve used it myself for a while now, just don’t follow what GCN did with diy wax because they haven’t got a clue!
@moshdee456
@moshdee456 Год назад
Once the chain is surgically clean, you can put it in the slow cooker with chain wax for that deep-penetrating lubrication
@billsomerset238
@billsomerset238 3 года назад
Because of oz, I've been waxing my chain and I can't hear any noise. Always clean.
@corporalpunishment1133
@corporalpunishment1133 4 года назад
Dude it's like you have read my mind this is exactly what I do to my mountain bikes and I even used finish line lube. This method it makes your drivetrain as smooth as silk and super super quite. To anyone who waxes I mean your chain not your legs more noise=more friction it's called science look it up.
@houarisoler8717
@houarisoler8717 4 года назад
Dude!You are one of the beste RU-vid entertainer i have Seen. It is only fun to watch your Videos...
@tomloa245
@tomloa245 2 года назад
incredible result , i do it every month , as new
@timvonr2802
@timvonr2802 4 года назад
I clean my vinyl with ultrasonic. Works great... with the chain id be concerned that the grease is off the chain rollers and not be able to get it back in from the outside.. I use finish line ceramic grease, with that Therese none or less of the dirt and mud sticks to the chain...
@FPLMikkel
@FPLMikkel 4 года назад
One thing you did not cover is the washing of the ultrasonic cleaner after use. This is ofc not a big issue, but a way to get around this is to fill the ultrasonic cleaner bath with minimum required water, then put the parts that you want to wash in zip lock bags (or you can use plastic/glass containers) which you again fill with water and cleaning product(s). This also means you can get away with using less cleaning product(s) as you only need enough for a small ziplock bag compared the whole 6L container. Not sure if this is advisable to use the heat setting with ziplock bags though.
@the_fast_life
@the_fast_life 4 года назад
Mikkel Tysland worth testing the theory. Good tip 👍🏼
@bubby372
@bubby372 Год назад
Trace please do a video on cycling glasses. Most of the Ali Express glasses are out of this world quality for very little cash. I enjoy an extensive collection.
@paulmofyourhand
@paulmofyourhand 9 месяцев назад
🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖 Looked for a good UltraSonic video and this popped up. Thank you!
@padmanabhaprasannasimha5385
@padmanabhaprasannasimha5385 2 месяца назад
My waxed chains run totally silent. Even more silent than from any wet lube. In dry weather, I've had a waxed chain last me almost 1200km (your mileage may vary). Only the first waxing step needs cleaning but once you're done with that, there's really no need to clean the chain/drivetrain for re-waxing. I use silca hot melt wax. One bag of their wax lasts forever. Squirt wax based lube comes close but is not as "clean" and when you go through the hassle of cleaning your drivetrain to prep it for squirt, might as well go the extra mile and immersion wax your chain. Chain wear is also imperceptibly small with waxed chains.
@silviupanait8861
@silviupanait8861 3 года назад
I just do a petrol bath for the chain and petrol with a toothbrush for the casette and front chainrigs and jockey wheels, works impeccably.
@freddierodriguez3036
@freddierodriguez3036 3 года назад
Bro, you should make more videos. Great content, great delivery, and your charisma bleeds through the screen. 🤗
@arhu74
@arhu74 4 года назад
If you go through all this trouble to clean your drive train then might as well do the extra mile and wax your chain instead of greasing it with some oil , that way your drive train will stay shiny and clean alway and you can just wipe of dirt. I use squirt lube because it's easy to apply but if you have an ultrasonic cleaner there might even be better solutions. Waxing was such a game changer for me, it does not attract dirt and the wax even prevents dirt from getting into the rollers in the first place
@dogphlap6749
@dogphlap6749 9 месяцев назад
Interesting comment from Luke that waxed chains were noisier in his experience. I hot paraffin wax my chains with PTFE powder added and have not noticed any extra noise so far. I appreciate how much cleaner everything is compared to oiled chains or chains with molybdenum disulfide or graphite lubricants. For me just a hose down between waxes is the only cleaning I need.
@Climberdom
@Climberdom 4 года назад
Person not looking and rolling onto the street right in front of you is the exact reason why I am sat here right now with a concussion and after a massive surgery to put my shoulder back together. Helmet cracked in half.
@TheBikeChallenge
@TheBikeChallenge 2 года назад
I've replaced like 15 chains now (gravel) in 13 months and my cassette is just fine :p (winter chain replacement is more often)
@nissenalf
@nissenalf 4 года назад
deep clean my chains every 400-500km, and soak them in hot wax/paraffin mixture, never had an issue and keeps the drivetrain clean.
@nissenalf
@nissenalf 4 года назад
@Kleiner Helfer well 15min job, and I can do other things while soaking, cheap as well, bottle of paraffin and a few candles will last a long time.
@tomsheppard1224
@tomsheppard1224 4 года назад
I've started waxing my chain and now it doesn't pick up dirt anymore :)
@joyridaz
@joyridaz Год назад
Surprised your not a waxer…. Much cleaner and fun for the diy-er!
@jeremyhook1818
@jeremyhook1818 4 года назад
Hilarious presentation plus really interesting content. PS I've ordered a carbon saddle. thanks again
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Thank you Jeremy!
@SprayIgniteBoom
@SprayIgniteBoom 4 года назад
Mine just arrived and I’ll install it after my nap! Matte finished and center cut out for more blood flow. OZ cycle also explains how to know how wide your saddle should be~ Very insightful
@gregsullivan7408
@gregsullivan7408 4 года назад
Your style reminds me a bit of how Rowan Atkinson might do bike related videos.
@christeschke9844
@christeschke9844 2 года назад
Your ride through the streets was scary, more scary than my 1st Generation SRAM 9.0 derailleur.
@OriginalAirsoftGasser
@OriginalAirsoftGasser 4 года назад
Top tip, use paraffin oil and when it settles you can suck the muck out of the bottom with a turkey baster and use the paraffin again and again, also leaves your kit coated with a protective coating so it doesn't rust. edit: be careful with plastic and rubber, it can destroy it.
@mot0s896
@mot0s896 4 года назад
Sounds good to clean 🙂 still waiting for the crankset 🐻 go give us the crankset video. A indor bike wash tutorial would be lovely too
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Well... Funny you should ask, because I've just finished the script this evening. Gonna 'crank' out the filming tomorrow...
@WillBeebe
@WillBeebe 4 года назад
@@TraceVelo can't wait to see the FTP data on that crank sesh.
@nigelthompson874
@nigelthompson874 3 года назад
FYI it is a common misunderstanding that the chain wear (stretch) is due to the rollers wearing. Actually it is the bush on the inner plates wearing on the pin. This wear accumulates over any given distance. The roller wear happens but does NOT accumulate. Over one foot or one metre roller wear is just the first and last roller being pushed apart.
@CyclingLifePT
@CyclingLifePT 4 года назад
Yeah, i dont like to go into so much trouble. I do rekon that the ultrasonic cleaner is better for removing everything, but the ParkTool chain cleaner does almost the same with a lot less hassle. And if you are like me and keep your bike clean on a daily basis, a brush and some WD-40 is enough to clean the most part of your drive train.
@jbergene
@jbergene 4 года назад
hey trace: I just saw a video on youtube. Put your gears, chains whatever in plastic bags or plastic boxes with the dissolvant. Then just place just in the water tub again. All the frequencies will travel there. Making you not having to clean the Ultrasonic cleaner itself
@Georgy_47
@Georgy_47 4 года назад
from 2 3 videos and couple laughs i subscribed ur amazing man keep making videos thats utube for suggesting the cheap saddle replacement vid 🍻❤️😍🚴
@ChiTownBrownie89
@ChiTownBrownie89 4 года назад
Use simple green for a degreaser, its environmentally friendly and super cheap.
@rominhoferrari
@rominhoferrari 4 года назад
Try SMOOVE (by far the best one i've used to date) or Squirt, two really good wax based lubricants. Price tag is high, but it CERTAINLY pays off on the long run, as chain keeps lubricated for loooooong kms without relubing, takes much more time to retain dirt/moisture, and drivetrain lasts muuuuchhh longeeeeerrr.
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Ok cool, I'll check it out, thanks for the tip Rômulo!
@paulk232
@paulk232 4 года назад
Good vlog Luke, I'll be looking at getting one of these👌👌🚲
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Cheers Paul!
@renovatiovr
@renovatiovr 4 года назад
The benefit of this that I see is that it is a much friendlier solution for those who don't have much space or freedom to spread the dirt and oils from washing the bike on the ground. From my experience most annoying and oily dirt comes off exactly from the drivechain, the rest of the bike just turns water grey and sandy. This looks like a good solution to clean the dirtiest parts in an enclosed and controlled environment rather than having it leak on the ground and annoy the neighbours. Can a conventional degreaser be used with this device? Say some muc off product?
@fucktheworld1207
@fucktheworld1207 4 года назад
I use Squirt lube, the best I have used out of many lubes I have tried.....
@manabiker
@manabiker 3 года назад
WAX of any type, and You won't need a Ultrasonic anything, you won't have lube on your bike/brakes/clothes, you will have a CLEAN DRIVETRAIN, for less time/money then TRICKNOLOGY of any type, less labor, less time working on the bikes,. Squirt is my choice.. its just easier, I have 5 bikes to lube, city, gravel, mountain, FAT, and vintage,
@hendrixm.7369
@hendrixm.7369 3 года назад
@@manabiker does carnauba wax work?
@BlackPrimeMinister
@BlackPrimeMinister 4 года назад
"Grease is time/ Is the place/ Is the motionn/ Grease is the way we are feeeliiiiinnnnnggg..." #GreaseIsTheWord!
@kennethstreet7868
@kennethstreet7868 4 года назад
That black stuff on your chain also has cassette and chainring paste from the grinding action introduced by the addition of sand to the drivetrain.
@JacobSkriver
@JacobSkriver 2 года назад
Great video! Had been thinking about getting an ultrasonic cleaner for same time now to clean my DriveTRAIN 😜
@pogoking4000
@pogoking4000 3 года назад
I think that it's actually a combination of both - the rollers getting worn and the chain actually stretching. Multiple times I have measured two chains side by side - a worn out one and a brand new one - and their length was different.
@dannylu6230
@dannylu6230 2 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QWemvEfYoBY.html Chain doesn’t stretch actually. The difference in length is because the slack of each worn joint adds up like crazy.
@RocketMagnetUK
@RocketMagnetUK 4 года назад
When you understand how an US bath works you'll understand why people say it can and does strip the surface layers off, in addition it will directly attack any scores or microfractures in the metal. It's not likely to be the degreaser or concentration it's just the power of the US and length of time in the bath that will cause excessive surface erosion and damage targeted at any imperfections. For normal drive chain gunk a chain bath and a quick brush over the cassette with a degreaser is good enough and will get it totally clean... ensure a thorough rinse to make sure residual degreaser doesn't break down the oil you apply to the chain. In a small flat i'd just use a plastic tub in the sink. The only time I would ever use an US bath is if I'd used a Ceramic containing oil which can result in a "baked on" grey paste. So overall only use an US bath very sparingly for as short a time as possible and then only if you absolutely need to. If a chain snaps or worse buckles it's surprising how much damage it can do.. rip off your rear mech etc The best way to maintain your chain and cassette is regular normal cleaning followed by as shown in the video oil to each roller, give it a few spins then leave it to cure followed by wiping off any excess oil with a rag. On MTB I avoid any of the Ceramic containing oils and after trying many over the years Purple Extreme is my favourite.. coupled with a good clean after every ride it's amazing how long a cassette and chain can last.
@boldizsarmelegh870
@boldizsarmelegh870 4 года назад
The greyness actually mostly comes from the the steel in the rollers, which is why the chain wears out
@merckxy54
@merckxy54 3 года назад
Good video, thanks for the info, very , very useful, please keep them coming!
@ivandjordevic696
@ivandjordevic696 3 года назад
I am looking to buy one, but am not sure how big ultrasonic cleaner I need for bike parts. There are a bunch of options, like 6L, 10L, 15L...
@theinstigatorr
@theinstigatorr 3 года назад
What size did you get?
@rodrigog.c.6047
@rodrigog.c.6047 2 года назад
Got one like yours from a recently deceased dentist's family. 12 usd in argentine pesos.
@AirwolfCrazy
@AirwolfCrazy 3 года назад
I have started riding again after a long time. I got a new bike and as I was learning about how the cycling world had changed I discovered the chain waxing. I decided to give it a go. I was also told that there would be a bit more noise. I am not sure what noise people are referring too. I have enjoyed all your videos.
@shaunrogers2256
@shaunrogers2256 4 года назад
One doesn't need to fill the cleaner with solvent, fill with water instead then put the chain in a glass jar with a little solvent and place that in the water much less waste.
@LeoInterHyenaem
@LeoInterHyenaem 3 года назад
A worthy alternative would be a steam cleaner (such as some Kärcher models with a hose and various adapters).
@leishman88
@leishman88 4 года назад
I also use one to clean vinyl records. You can also re-use your cleaning solution if you use a cheap fish tank filter/pump to remove the muck from it afterwards
@percival3830
@percival3830 4 года назад
Informative and funny too. Well done dude.
@cycletradeuk
@cycletradeuk 3 года назад
This intro is amazing!!
@VV-om8vv
@VV-om8vv Год назад
If you’re concerned about removing factory lube, just lube the chain twice (wait a day after first lube).
@fair2middling
@fair2middling 4 года назад
i thought dish soap/washing up liquid contained salt, not the best for metal parts. 5lt of degreaser from screwfix £8.99. or just blast the chain with a jet wash!
@horrovac
@horrovac 4 года назад
Unfortunately, your explanation of chain wear is completely wrong. The chain DOES stretch, and the rollers DO NOT wear down. You can verify I'm right by simply measuring the sizes of rollers on a new and a worn chain, they will be identical. I know that chains do stretch because I simply use a metal workshop ruler to measure chain wear. Those have the zero aligned with then end of the ruler, so you can hook a chain side plate or a pin with it. I usually hook it on a side plate and measure the length of 10 links and interpret the measurement thus: 25.4mm -> new chain up to 25.5mm -> worn but still usable chain at 25.5mm -> replace chain length beyond 25.5 and approaching 25.6mm -> you left it too long, you may also have to change the cassette or chainrings I do not have a chain wear gauge. Most of them don't provide useful measurements anyway because they push rollers apart and thus include roller play in the measurement. This usually results in chains being thrown away which still have some use in them. The chains stretch because with time the chain inner plates wear into the chain pins and the holes in them get worn too. It's a tiny amount of wear, but it adds up. You can also verify this by pushing out a pin from a worn chain before you chuck it in the bin. You'll be able to see the "bitemarks" of the inner plates on the pin if you look closely.
@MrWelfarehater
@MrWelfarehater 2 года назад
Waxing a bicycle chain has its limitations. Yes you don't have the dreaded black gunk, and the chain probably last longer. The tradeoffs are that the drivetrain still has to be cleaned, you need to wax more often, and if it rains, you have to wax right after immediately. I did it for a year on a hybrid commuter. I still wax a rarely ridden folding bicycle.
@Drachen1x
@Drachen1x 4 года назад
try out waxing. use oz cycles method!
@ralfw.3009
@ralfw.3009 4 года назад
Thx for your review. I´m much interested in ultrasonic cleaning for my bike parts specialy for the chain and chain rings. But what I´ve really learned is that to clean your chain you have to open the chain lock. This lock is adviced by the manufactures to be only used once. So for my KMC x11 chain this means 8€ per cleaning session. Buying a fully new KMC x11 chain incl. the chain lock will cost me 16€. So cleaning this way is very expensive and not a good solution so far. Degreasing the chain before first usage and putting chain wax onto it might be done perfectly by ultrsonic cleanig. Therefore I´m still thinking of buying such a device.
@stevecarleton163
@stevecarleton163 4 года назад
You can buy reusable links. YBN 11 Speed QRS links are reusable up to 5 times (they work fine with KMC chains). Adam Kerin (Zerofrictioncycling) says he can get 10 uses out of them. They are also very cheap.
@edwardhicks630
@edwardhicks630 3 года назад
Trace, I was crying when you gave yourself that heros medal hahaha, my dream is to meet you in Richmond park some day boyyy!
@umue11
@umue11 4 года назад
Measure the length of a worn chain and compare it to a new one and you will see, that the chain lengthens significantly.
@freddu8881
@freddu8881 4 года назад
So how exactly to dispose of the solvent properly?
@danielsepulveda912
@danielsepulveda912 3 года назад
with fire
@criticalthought7527
@criticalthought7527 3 года назад
Here in the States it is common to have a local household hazardous waste facility where you can properly dispose of most scary household products.
@philthomas9371
@philthomas9371 4 года назад
You could give me an ultrasonic clean anytime...
@latecheckout11
@latecheckout11 4 года назад
exactly what i was thinking
@petelok9969
@petelok9969 4 года назад
I wonder if there are places you can take your drive train for commercial cleaning, like a ultrasound launderette?!
@ThePassiton
@ThePassiton 6 месяцев назад
I know it's an old video but please never leave those Vevor cleaners plugged in unsupervised, we had one that developed some kind of electrical fault and burnt the heaters with black smoke spewing out.
@msironen
@msironen 4 года назад
I'm pretty tempted to get one, but couple things holding me back: 1) You basically have to disassemble and re-assemble your drivetrain each time. I have the tools for this at home but still seems like a bit of a hassle compared to cleaning them with a brush / chain cleaner tool. 2) You can get a super clean chain simply by letting it rest in a degreaser bath and giving it the occasional shake (I've done this a few times). Also no reason why you couldn't do it with the cassette also but I haven't mostly because of see point 1. Also you can then re-use most of the degreaser with some coffee filters. 3) Most importantly, you don't really need to do any of this with a strategic change of lube. I see Squirt has already been mentioned in the comments and it's my weapon of choice as well. It simply doesn't leave/generate the black gunk that regular chain lube does and fairly dramatically reduces the need for the whole drive train degrease, clean and re-lube show. It does wash off much easier than proper wet lube in foul weather but re-applying it is drastically simpler (and less dirty) work than the normal 3-step.
@paullmight42
@paullmight42 3 года назад
interesting...i just have one of those cheap blue handheld chain cleaner things...and while id does give a decent clean(i think) the liquid just pours out everywhere and is a pain in the ass really...having to clamp it together around the chain, the slightest tip in any direction and the liquid just dumps out...very cool in theory and worth the 5$ i paid for it but have to lay a towel down before using it...i did recently switch to a dry lube though which has realllly helped keep it clean, especially compared to the wet lube...
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 3 года назад
Honestly, my ultrasonic cleaner has paid for itself like 10 times over. If you ride often, it makes cleaning chains and cassettes 1 million times easier, can recommend
@Sir-Prizse
@Sir-Prizse 4 года назад
A 8 or 9-speed cassette is just as expensive as a 8 or 9 speed chain... so my solution is that i have 2 road bikes that i only ride in bad weather and they both have a entry level groupset like Claris R2000. I only ride my bling bling bike when I know one hundred percent that the weather is great and stays great.
@SeanoHermano
@SeanoHermano 3 года назад
Oz Cycle, the other channel You linked to in Your video, has an updated recipe for chain wax which includes PTFE powdered lubricant (1.6 micron) in the mixture. Supposedly it quiets the noise.
@davesmtbchannel
@davesmtbchannel 4 года назад
If you're going to the effort of ultra sonic cleaning really you need to use Molten speed wax too then. No other chain lube like it. Easily get a whole professional cyclocross season out of one YBN chain with this wax, including the famous koksijde sand dunes. Its so cheap and easy to apply and I normally get about 500 or 600km from one wax on my training bike
@markjthomson
@markjthomson 4 года назад
Grit and grime on your drive components will strip away any "anti friction" coating way faster than an ultrasonic... and that is the purpose of the lubricant you apply after... And first thing I do with a new chain (and is recommended in frequent videos on the subject by people who know what they are talking about) is remove the factory lubricant! Have the people making these objections actually put any thought into what they are saying...?
@Kansloos_
@Kansloos_ 4 года назад
Good video! I use chain wax (Squirt) all the time and honestly it's more quiet than regular lube. Would love to see a vid about it!
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 4 года назад
Well another guy in the comments has suggested this stuff aswell... Wax based lubes have never really impressed me tbh, but maybe I should give it a go..
@Kansloos_
@Kansloos_ 4 года назад
@@TraceVelo it's honestly the best thing that I discovered in Cycling the last years. Wet or dry, no dirt sticks to my chain. Only thing is that you need to apply it the first time to a 100% clean chain, after that it's a dream.
@BananaChipzzz
@BananaChipzzz 4 года назад
I used squirt for a while, but went back to “regular” lubes. Squirt was quiet, and the application was easy (along with the promise of “never needing to degrease”). Problem was, the waxy buildup was too much to deal with. It was impossible to get off the jocky wheels especially. Seemed to gunk-up all over. I really liked squirt at first, but i don’t think i’d go back.
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 4 года назад
@@TraceVelo If you hate waxing and like regular lubes, I would definitely recommend you checkout Boeshield T9. It's always been my go-to for twenty years when I want a more conventional lube that won't attract crazy dirt. Just make sure you let it setup overnight so it can dry to a nice film.
@jeffylikespugs
@jeffylikespugs 4 года назад
@@TraceVelo Definitely agree with this. ozcycle has a really good homemade chain wax video that he recently posted. I've been using it for about 3000 kms now. Its absolutely fantastic. I will not go back to regular lube
@armantes4739
@armantes4739 4 года назад
Please test a wax lube for the chain, i use it and it´s superb
@joshbaxeleven
@joshbaxeleven 4 года назад
Yes trace!! Now I want one
@patsizer3581
@patsizer3581 4 года назад
Does a container of degreaser with components in on top of a speaker playing loudly work?
@bonn1771
@bonn1771 4 месяца назад
thanks for the tips
@arcboutant
@arcboutant 3 года назад
Yup, what he said 😎
@timothywee5360
@timothywee5360 4 года назад
Hey man, thanks for the vid! Looking at getting one myself. Could you recommend the minimum power/volume requirements required for a good cleaner? Also do you need the heater function? Thanks! :)
@iberiksoderblom
@iberiksoderblom 3 года назад
I've just ordered one ! I live in a small appartment, without any means of cleaning my bike outside. So hosing it down takes place in my small shower-cabin (!). It bothers me A LOT about getting water in to my cables and inside my frame - and what if I one day get a Di2 ? - . How about a miniseries about "Small Appartment Bike Cleaning" ? Biking from work is a 30K ride, so I'm not happy with using an hour on top of that cleaning the bike every day, then take a shower myself and then feeding myself and my son. It's very late dinner !
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