Mike compares the Umarex HDR50 and the HDP50, which one do you prefer? HDR50 Review • Umarex T4E HDR 50 Revo... HDP50 Review • Umarex T4E HDP 50 Cal ...
My HDR 50 (11 Joule version) actually produces about 17 Joules (507 FPS with 22 grain nylon rounds). It will penetrate drywall and steel cans, and with solid steel rounds it blows through coconuts ! I keep it as a less lethal defense on my sailboat.
I had both, and will stand by the HDP50 every time. It never gets any of the credit it deserves. Other than the revolver being able to shoot shaped projectiles, i don't see what all the hype is about. The balance is terrible at best, and with the hard, "snagging" trigger pull, good luck with a follow up shot within any reasonable amount of time. It has a rail for mounting an optical. Good, bc you're going to need one. Molded flat black front n back sights. Can't hold a bead on a target on a sunny day. The HDP50 has neon fiber optic "night sights" front n back n a smooth trigger pull. Balance is good n feels natural in hand. Before and after the equal version of max power kit was installed on each, HDP50 dominated testing, especially timed sets with moving targets. Revolver never redeemed itself n didn't want to waste another dollar on it. Gave it away. With a little self tuning n tinkering, at 20 ft the HDP50 will put a soft foam ball in sheetrock. 8.5 gram magnesium rounds clean through a full WD-40 can, and a nylon resin round will clean the teeth out of a crackhead's grill w two lightening quick pops. HDP50 all the way
Thanks, ive really struggeled with my dissision. I wanted the HDP but every review said i should by the HDR. I will buy the 11J verson and would really like to try some different projectiles. Do u know any for the HDP? Or do i have to make some my self?
HDP will only fire a round .50 projectile, but there's plenty out there with extra weight added! The guys at SSR make the best rounds in our experience
Agree I had both... much prefer the HDP. Neater form factor. Better sights, more efficient and looks closer to the real deal. The downside is reloading but you can easily just use a speed loader tube and drop the rounds in. Not much slower than a HDR tbh maybe even faster.
HDR50 is better in a critical way. HDR50 is a powerful air gun which can shoot any type of projectile, including cheap home made ammo and lead bullets. What's more, it's large lower rails and slots allow to easily mount long barrel extension. HDR50 can be modified to be powerful lethal air gun. So can HDP50. But it's significantly easier with HDR50 and also shoot bullets instead of being limited to balls. So for ultimate home defense, HDR50 is the better choice.
Thanks Strathpeffer Junction. Do you think the after market alumunium cartridges which are made to a tighter tolerance would make any great differance?
@@ModernIntel It guess it's possible, but it's a feature of almost all real steel revolver designs too (bar the negant). Some air pistols do have a barrel part that pulls in to seal against the cylinder, but that's part of the revolver design. You might be able to reduce the gap a little with a tighter tolerance part, but there's still going to be air lost. I've never tried one of the aftermarket one, maybe others have who can confirm?
@@petersmith6974 The aluminium cartridge stops the gas leakage and adds between 0.5 and 1j by doing so, a conversion kit can add another 10j and up depending which version you get and the barrel tuning kit adds quite a bit as well. Some conversions can take the HDR above 30j
I own the hdr68, hdr50, hds68, hdx68. Own one of Umarex bb handgun, snr357, spyder viictor, tippman tmc elite. Just bought the new mercury rise torpedo revolver and the hdr50 launcher and pepper spray cartridge. To bad most of the cool ammo is sold overseas. Cost a fortune to get it shipped to the USA. My favorite is my 16joules hds68. Arrows is my favorite to shoot out of it.
Yes I can reload HDR50 in two seconds by swapping magazine, while keeping gun pointed at target. One second if I don't engage the magazine bolt (it's possible to shoot without center bolt engaged). but I doubt that's possible with HDP
I'm an American living down under in South Africa, so I feel your pain....lol. Wish we had the 2nd amendment here, but at least they have the HDR with 11 Joules and not the 7 Joule U.K. version. Love your videos..... Cheers!
I had the hdr it started leaking after a month. When I opened it springs jumped out everywhere and impossible to assemble. I tried a lot.. now I hope the hde will be better. Look at Rune rebel he removes one little badge and goes from 11j to 25 in a minute. He shoots real steel balls not the coated ones.
Hi.. I am very much interested in a home defence revolver or pistol. I just can decide on the HD burner 68 cal or the hdr 50 cal.. Iv been trying to compare these to and was hoping to find the comparisons. Could you assist with the knowledge you have.
HD Byrna is expensive and doesn't seem to have much upgrade capability. HDR50 can be modded easily, shoot any kind of projectile including home made rounds and can be upgraded in power up to lethal levels.
12.7mm delrin balls work great in the HDP... they fly much faster and hit a lot harder than in the HDR. The HDR loses too much gas because of its revolver design.
@@k12rising They dont hit harder though. Measure the FPS, they are slower. Sure you could make some pointy bullets but they still have less energy. Tbh not even the HDP is powerful enough for a proper deterrent. You want the FSC or the T8.1
@@tomszabo7350 Done all that. I found that steel balls are too heavy. The best ones seem to be the 2.4gram rubber balls with steel powder. They cycle nice and put a very deep dent in my steel pan.
@@k12rising Yes totally agree. I can upgrade HDR50 to same power as 22LR pistol. I would prefer to shoot lead bullets at that power instead of rubber balls, since it's lethal weapon at that point. I guess it's possible to upgrade HDP50 to same power levels but you would have to shoot lead balls instead.
Revolver can be unloaded without firing. Also I suppose conical rounds could be fitted if desired. I wonder if a barrel sleeve could be fitted for smaller diameter but higher velocity.
Yes that's the advantage of revolver magazine. Reducing caliber will not give you higher velocity, as air gun is propelled not by gun powder, but fixed air pressure. But adding barrel extension will increase velocity and to impressive levels.
I have both in 7j and 11j , the hdr revolver is ok for paintball in both powers but the hdp in 11joules seems to hit-really hard and I wouldn’t recommend for paintball Someone would get hurt bad with this power
Umarex came out with 68 caliber version of HDR50, called HDR68. It's quite large, maybe too large for many people. Hopefully there will be lots of reviews for HDR68 soon.