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Yep. Bullies do that all the time. They'll bully people then claim they were "only joking" later when they get called out on it and they discover not everybody is on their side. I guess murderous gangsters would be the same.
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I love when Arthur antagonise's uncle its genuinely light hearted and really funny. But when micah does it no one joins in or laughs. Everyone hates micah.
@@AnonymousEnigma19one of the reasons why I hate Dutch so much, probably more than I hate Micah... Imo, Micah's just a loser, if Dutch have even just a single braincell, the end would've not gone so bad.
My thought (shared with someone else on some other video,) is that Micah wanted to get Dutch to do the Blackwater job, stash the money somewhere, and have Dutch get caught in the process.
I was thinking just the opposite--Almost every single problem with the gang is DUTCH'S FAULT. At most, Micah suggested the Blackwater job, but he didn't fuck it up.
It's quite different how Uncle speaks when he's being made fun of by Arthur and John, but when Micah insults him, it's like the mood changes and Uncle's speech patterns turns to something completely different.
Uncle doesn't take offense when Arthur and John do it- they've been trading barbs and jokes for years. Micah though always laces his words with a degree of malice that Uncle has to respond harshly or back down
Because when Arthur and John shit talk him it’s usually done in either a joking manner or when he’s screwed up something (like robbing the Cornwall stagecoach or being a bum on the ranch for example) Micah makes genuine death threats filled with malice out of nowhere while uncle is just minding his own business
Everyone: "If Arthur wasn't dying of Tuberculosis he would have killed Micah at the end" Me: "If Uncle wasn't dying of Terminal Lumbago he would have killed Micah at the camp"
Shas'O Swoll Do you remember when Arthur had to save him from jail? At the start of all this? He wanted to leave him there but his loyalty to Dutch made him go against his better judgment. Then he kills half the town and the evil foreshadowing of the storm clouds and lightning when you escape and the cutscene starts is all to real.
Uncle died at the house of the people that he cared for. sitting on a porch resting like he always liked. Micah died in the cold snow,betrayed by dutch and having achieved nothing.
Micah smile to the death hitself For him its a game Sometime you lose Micah is dangerous because despite of losing, i have nothing to lose with him He's father has been hang, he's bother left him And he lose his son So he have all to win, and he made it
2:31 Micah: "I'm a goddamn man!" *Arthur, beating Micah to a pulp at the end of the game* Arthur: "You ain't no man Micah! Hell, can't even kill a dying man!"
@@deathclock0652 Still, Micah did almost lose to Arthur. You can see Micah barely be able to pull the trigger of his gun, I doubt that's out of hesitation.
Micah beat Arthur, the only reason Arthur would have won is because he reached a gun. The fact that Arthur could still pick people up off their feet shows that he didn’t lose too much strength, and Micah beat him fairly is intimidating.
In reality, Micah would’ve been kicked out of the gang because he’s too unpredictable and the fact that everyone knows that he wouldn’t hesitate to kill any of them.
I don't believe Uncle has lumbago. I believe in his many years, he heard an old timer complain of it, saw said old timer hunched over and stiff in the joints, and thought, "Hey! I got an idea!" After practicing the hunched walk, who could tell otherwise? After all, he can ride into a robbery with the boys, and interestingly enough, he can run through the woods (with the proper motivation) as well. Uncle is a scammer.
@@3DSDF yeah micah is a very forced character for “muh plot reasons”. in real life no one, NO ONE would put up with that kind of behavior. the gang would lynch him for sure.
I always loved how Uncle was one of the few people to actually expose both Dutch and Micah on their true selfs when they always interact Dutch being this Wannabe Wise-King and Micah someone who believes himself as a superior to everyone until someone talks back at him No wonder why Dutch choose Micah in the end over both Arthur and John ...
late, but Micah barely hides who he really is. He's a sadist that robs and kills because he enjoys it and only hangs around with the gang because it gives him a better chance of survival. He'd kill anyone in the gang without a second thought (except maybe Dutch) if he thought it helped his odds. Like he says, he's a survivor.
Micah keeps feeding Duch's ego even after the whole thing is going off the rails. Duch is so obsessed with loyalty he misses the fact that the one he sees as "most loyal" in the end is using the shit out of him.
I'm surprised Arthur didn't infect everyone. Granted, consumption's tough to catch, but considering how long he's been middling around camp, maybe a light stifled cough near the communal stew pot...
Yeah I stuck around a lot at the first camp but by the time you get to Beaver Hollow everyone's so bitter and untrustworthy it's just stressful to be there
Nah ..i stayed did shit when i could helped where i could i wasnt just going those good people to suffer alone , i yelled at bill javier rimmed out dutch from time , heh love pissing off micah , and just standing and staring at those other guys lol
@@404usernotfound_ Not necessarily...they were more so divided into different sides...those that were still "loyal" to dutch...and those who realized/accepted that he was never the man they wanted him to be.
Hes Red Harlow duh but no one knows because it's a damn secret they didnt make this game and not make Revolver reference it's the spiritual successor the man looks like and has a sense of edge and it make sense for harlow to keep his identity and personality a secret he killed the major theres a price for that no matter how bad that guy was in that game
4:07 That side-eye Bill sends Micah. To be honest, with the anger Williamson shows off sometimes, I'm surprised he wasn't the one that snapped and just blew Micah away during a job, blamed it on law or something.
in reailty he is a lazy fuck though, who just gets drunk, chats shit, and does nothing around the camp. i think thats what makes rdr2 so great, micah isnt wrong when he says that uncle does nothing to provide for the camp but merely uses up resources. saying that though we all like uncle because hes entertaining and even though it makes no logistical sense to keep him around we all want him there.
i mean the only ones who lived longer than him would have been john, abigail, and jack. everyone else as far as we know died before uncle. considering the gang had a lot more people before the events of RDR2 its safe to say than uncle outlived 95ish% of the gang
@@sushestvobezvolnoe we have no idea if they are. you gotta keep in mind RDR1 takes place several years after RDR2 and john's task was killing the remaining members of the gang. either they completely vanished OR john killed them.
@@crazyunclecrispy6140Half of them either did petty crimes that the Government wouldn't have cared about or moved across the country. To the point where John would have had to taken years to actually find them. There is no way he finds anybody outside of Bill, Javier, and Dutch. Everybody else is either dead or put their crime life behind them and moved on fully.
It's crazy how much and how quickly the gang devolved in chapter 6. Even after Guarma, the gang still felt better than they did in Chapter 6. Such a sad thing, I wish we could have seen Hosea, Lenny, and Sean's reaction to all of this. They for sure would have stood with Arthur and probably would have gotten others who quietly left the gang to stay and stand up as well.
Not sure about Sean and lenny Watch the videos about What the Gang members say how dutch found them It makes very clear why bill and Javier as well sided With him
IMO Lenny would for sure join Arther, but Sean I'm not sure he's a career criminal & showed no signs of wanting a better life (unlike Lenny). He was too eager to impress the senoir members of the gang trying to act like a hard man. I believe he'd side with Dutch because of his romanticize version of loyalty to the gang.
Sean's a lot smarter than he seems and actively stands up for Arthur against Micah. Lenny doubts Dutch but stays because it's not so bad yet. They simply both died before they realized how bad things actually were going to get.
Remember an urban dictionary entry; ““Schrödinger’s Douchebag”, someone who’s statements are both jokes and dead serious, changing depending on reception,” or something along those lines.
“None of our problems is my fault! None at all!” Interesting glimpse at Micah’s psychosis. People like that often convince themselves that things that are quite obviously their fault are actually the fault of everyone and everything else except themselves. Exhibit A: my wife’s father.
I have gained more and more respect for Uncle as I played this game. Especially calling out Micah, and in the end he died fighting and protecting John's family. The old man is many things, but a coward not.
Uncle is actually a badass he's been with the gang a long time he's robbed banks and stagecoaches too he's a outlaw and listen to the stories that he tells at the camp I believe them all well some of them uncle will stand up to anybody when the time comes he's saved me before in the game not even in a mission just some bounty hunters that rolled up to camp out of nowhere one tackled me and Uncle shot him dead and then the rest of the game showed up and we finished them before it blacked out and said that enemies were led to camp 😅😅 uncle is one shot kid bro 😅😅 shot him dead in the head 😂
Micah: "I'm joking. Relax" Me: No, you wasn't joking. You were waiting to see how many of us would join you in your little act of murder. And when you saw none of us were game, you slunk immediately back into your hole like the snake you are.
Uncle is like that friend you like to make fun of (like poking fun at them and exchanging an insult with one another) but when someone else makes fun of him, you hate it I didn’t mean to offend anyone or seem toxic in anyway, if you do not like my comment that is fine
dont make fun at people you focus on your own miserable live bitch ! the fact that this gets liked should make you all thinking. next time i see someone making fun of someone weaker , i punch the fuck outta him
Thommsen Um dude. I think ur sort of misunderstanding something. Some guys really just like fucking with on another, and insults one another. However it’s a mutual thing. A give and take. Someone is insulted and they insult back. Real friends shy away from terrible insults, and will back their friends up if anyone outside their friend circle insults them. It’s the dynamic of a friendship, a guy friendship.
Uncle may be a little tired from dealing with lumbago for so many years. But he was a loyal trooper in both games and honestly deserves respect from the fandom
Peter Blomquist nailed this role through and through. I've only ever seen him in LA Noire prior to this, so I have nothing else to compare his work to. He is easily the best villain in anything in recent memory.
"Even a fool is thought wise when he remains silent; lest he open his mouth and exposes his foolishness." They may be criminals, but Reverend Swanson must've gotten some of the Bible through to them.
Funny enough, if you have bad honor and go back for the money, Micah literally stabs Arthur in the back. The foreshadowing in this game is otherworldly
Uncle was lowkey really smart. Though he may be lazy he shares the same ability to see through people and probably does it better than Arthur himself. He calls out Dutch all the way in chapter 2 and was never fond of Micah either, Uncle is a W.
I've played it daily for months, I always take my time and hang around camp, etc. and yeah I still discover new content. Even the "Endless Summer" has lots of new content.
uncle's a lazy bastard but he has balls of steel when push comes to shove. straight up called dutch and micah out to their faces and when the army raided beechers he stood his ground.
Gotta give credit to Uncle. He saw right through Micah, and knew the type of man he was. Uncle didn't do much to help, but he cared for his family, and he could only watch as Micah and Dutch destroyed it
He's the edgelord in every fucking online conversation that goes "wHaT, iT wAs JuSt A jOkE, bRo" when someone calls them out on the shitty thing they just said.
“You just try it.” This is one hell of a quote Uncle has immunity in the gang. If Micah did something to Uncle everyone would turn on Micah immediately.
"he ain't off grafting, hunting or killing like the rest of us" Funny I don't recall Micah ever hunting and donating to the camp at all. Never saw his name in the book of donations towards the camp not once. Now that I mention it, I've never even see Micah sleep.
I never seen Uncle get mad at anyone - he gets along with literally everyone in the gang, so Micah has to be a very special turd for Uncle to despise him.
@@shane4429 Now, I haven't played the game or done too much research, so discount me if you will, but this video, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JH-ZDK2z-e8.html, actually puts some credit to the theory, as well as the years. I just like the theory because jt makes Uncle make a bit more sense in the universe and how he got to where he is, but its far more likely that its false not because of timeline, but because Rockstar have said that Red Harlow is more of a myth than an actual person in the universe. Else I imagine we would have met him in the Legendary Gunslingers side missions.
After RDR2, this man was a part of the Marston family and seeing him die in the first game after the events that took place in the prequel made me cry.
Who the hell hates Uncle? He gave his life protecting the Marston. When John wanted to help him get out after he got shot he rejected and told that he should take Abby and Jack instead and get out. He is a lazy fool but he is a good lazy fool. Loyal and loving to the end.
3:06: Irony in Micah stating that is that if he'd shut up back in Blackwater and hadn't encouraged Dutch to rob a ferry the entirety of RDR 2 wouldn't have possibly happened
Micah demonstrates just how pathetic Dutch really was. He was never useful and always a problem, but Dutch kept him around at the expense of those who actually care about him, because he always stroked his damn ego.
GODOFWAR 234 regi They would have been fine if they just moved on the bank right away after the trolley job before Milton had time to get to Saint Denis and prepare and while the Saint Denis cops were depleted. Instead Micah pushed Dutch to take revenge on Bronte.
I love how this game explored Uncles undercover usefulness and wisdom. The writing gave me much more appreciation for a character that honestly I didn’t like in the first game 😂 😅
Well, considering that he prolly sold them out in Blackwater and only becasue of that heist going belly up they went east Krauss would never have lent money to the do-gooder.
Uncle was a legendary gunslinger, so of course he's not afraid of a rude little boy like Micah, who's mostly all bark and no bite and just goes for the weaker ones. The boy is an excellent shooter, but old uncle Harlow here would've put one in his head, if it wasn't for his age and everything. Like the trapper said what his Dad told him about age, it sneaks up on you.
I want to know who the hell did that on their first play through because there is simply no reason for it. It’s pretty obvious Arthur was gonna die there so why make him a douche on his way out?
@@mariomarcucci6569 Well if you’re really committed to the canonlow honor play through, going back for the money is low honor Arthur’s true fate. Low honor Arthur venerated savagery and in turn, died savagely. Just like Milton said.
“No I will not shut up, shutting up will lead to us all being killed” Wow. Micah talking to the Pinkertons means there’s a chance him and some others will survive. Micah not speaking to the pinkertons means everyone, him included would he hunted and killed by them. Don’t know if it was intentional but that is pretty great foreshadowing
We see in RD1 that Uncle is actually a very capable gunslinger, in his younger days he was likely a beast. He's also one of the people who probably would've sided with Arthur had he been there, Uncle is also a lot smarter than he lets on, you see it in his conversations with Dutch. Altogether the only reason he didn't kill Micah is because he didn't want Dutch to be angry.
I think the best thing about these short dialogues is that in my brain it's teaching me how to just ignore the people who hate me like I feel like Uncle would be the one person that he should be in like a therapy like a therapist and he would teach you so many things of how to ignore your bullies and all that
