Uncommon Grit EP 2: What Does It Take To Break 

I think they can't show much since they need to maintain the secrecy of the unit, which is why the faces and voices are all censored

@@timlee2609 the censoring of faces are not very consistent thou...

@@kaiyuanzhang Probably the ones not censored are the ones who didn't make the cut.

@@kaiyuanzhang even those who are censored, some of their faces aren’t censored well enough. Just look at 7:32

The intro already wasted 1min30s

Certain things are best left unknown

timestamp?

why is it weird? awo officers are very fit. they have infamous 7/11 soc run with sandcans.

Well, the course is open to all in the SAF regardless of the unit. As long as you can make the cut, you can join. You'll be surprise about how diverse their background are, from what units, etc.

@@ee-sj8qr True, there are a ton of very fit and mentally strong people everywhere. Which is 1 of the many reasons why the course is open to all. As long as the mind is strong, the body will follow, which is why 1 of the instructors in there said that fitness can be trained.

the guy probably gbad, not atc or c3

my man's probably gbad tho, i.e. army cosplay as rsaf

@@shotnothing3419 lol. but male sense to be wearing green.

@@jianxiongRaven honestly rsaf's uniform doesn't make sense, most things in airbase are painted green anyway

@@shotnothing3419 aiya it's just a form of identity not meant to really blend in

Just around 30 years ago, training was a lot tougher than it is now

@@maxsim6242 yes, i agree. Decades ago soldier must be really2 strong due to lack of technology. Soldiers back then relied to them self beside also covering thier comrade to stay fighting. but if there is no old then there is no new

So?

Best lbv model

When you suffering through the course...nobody remembers the rank.

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@@albertpang102 sorry to say your cyber attacked tactic don't work here.

Yea I find it quite weird too since Ranks are removed for Ranger course too. Maybe it's due to "only a 2 week, selection course" ("short duration" + "selection").

@@DragonX2X7 yeah maybe is cuz its selecttion ? 😂 once SFQC then will ?

I'm guessing unknown distance, and that candidates arent given a time to meet which is a good thing for the selection; it induces more mind games in the candidates since they have nothing to reference to.

@@lychvy8023 this whole selection if you look at it is all mind over body

apparently 90% cut rate

looks like master diver, master jumper, i have no idea whats on the top for the local badges. US and thai jumper on the overseas side

@@Thyassasin99 Correct. And the one at the top on his left chest is the Master Freefall badge.

The local badges are Advanced military free fall, master parachutist and professional diving badge

Master airborne(SG), Master freefall (SG), pro diver (SG) , thai airborne , indo airborne

@@dyu4634 ah i c

Probably can try again, after some time.

They can always retake but if I am not wrong this course only max twice a year …if they failed repeatedly , their contract renewal as cdo or ndu is definitely affected or promotion are affected or not given key appointment until current contract finishes

He may have to serve his next tour out of the formation. I think one has to be a Ranger to hold OC appointment within the formation

@@kwfong3466 yes ranger tab seem more important than this qualification for career . Know of someone privately who had ranger but no this one and rather senior in the echelon. Seem most cdo regulars have ranger tab.

Assuming things have not changed, regulars who cannot clear the Ranger course will not be offered the "2nd contract". I'm guessing if time permits, they will get to retake the course up to a certain number of tries. Though there is a very limited number of course conducted per year. Many years back I've heard that from "X" date/year onwards, all CDO regulars must obtain the Ranger tab to stay in the force as the formation want every CDO regular to be Ranger trained.

Doubt NSF, because the course is quite lengthy. Plus it's sort of investment. Unless the NSF already 100% signed on, don't think they're allowed.

All SAF regulars and a few NSF that will be signing on

Confirm all regular bro.

@@habitatsk8boarder no, not all. Very few NSF but will be signing on

@@dodo5346 ya if not i also dk how the unit CO recommend the NSF. Very difficult

Yes.

SOTF is a grouping of unit for tasking,, units from mostly SF operators, not all operators are Ranger qualified n not a requirement, but as a career soldier, thats part of the requirement inorder for u to move further with better prospect, its 2 different thing altogether. note,, Ranger in SAF context is a small unit leadership course(similar to US personal that are not assigned to the Ranger Rgmt) while SAF do not have a Ranger Regiment.

You'll be surprised how much can be done in that 2mins by motivated people. Certain changing parade can be done in 1min (after going through a few rounds of different variations, the speed increases, thus less time spent), though I've heard it's been banned for many years now (due to possible injury while rushing down stairs). Seeing/hearing the things they need and assuming they have to "fall in" downstairs in the open area, it should be fine. If they are to "fall in" just outside the bunk (like the one shown in the video while in push up position), then 2 mins should be more than enough. If they are required to move around in that crawling position then the time seems to be rather tight.

He's the Master Chief

no such thing as CT plain clothes unit.

I was wondering the same... my only conclusion is that those whose faces were shown did not make the cut. If so, kinda cruel to be showing their face 🤔

Question asked at least twice and answered. Go read the older comments.

I wonder if they have dummy plates on as well. Hopefully yes. Didnt notice any dummy weapon during the run as well which is odd...

1 dummy mag usually simulate the fully loaded weight, so you can approximate by using 30 rounds of 5.56

Maybe around 500g? Less than a kilo likely. That's some additional weight, if there's 12 of them, even if it weighs half kilo.

each dummy mag 0.6kg,so 12 is 0.6×12=7.2kg

total load w LBV ,12 mag, 2 filled water btls, misc stuffs without rifle is 10kg

Master airborne(SG), Master freefall (SG), pro diver (SG) , thai airborne , indo airborne

Indonesia airborne and Thai airborne on his right side. Left side from the top is advanced free fall parachutist, senior parachutist, and combat diver badge

Every badge is salary increment 🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️🎖️

He was my wing commander during my time in OCS. He actually has another set of uniform with another set of badges. Mad lad is built different.

@@user-ks7er6kp6s no increment one lah.

I once read a a book about the US Navy SEALS. The author said that no one signs up for the Navy SEALS for the salary or food. So if you're asking that, you're probably not suitable.

@@aero.l Asking about the salary prospects doesn't equate to trying to recruit for the SOTF. Since their work is obviously tougher, I'm just trying to understand if their remuneration is commensurate with their efforts or if the ministry values their work more than the typical regular and therefore compensate them more accordingly, since salary is often an indicator of amount of value brought to an organization.

Your not qualified also by not answering the question

@@ezekielk.3629 🤡

Something extra called “risk pay”. commando, divers, EOD all have this

Some are not so hidden actually, due to the high position they hold. But of course they will only show very general/brief info.

LOL NICE ONE

@@DragonX2X7 yeah but for the most part they’re heavily a secret

@@iam4026 of course the impt stuff are secrets. You can easily google who is the Head of CDO and his roles/position/etc. I even felt that some "roles"/"position"/etc wasn't necessary to include but it's out there in the public. Well at the very least I know people in that community are really tight-lipped so whatever is shown, must be fine.

@@DragonX2X7 I have a friend who is in a Div HQ. He told me there are some rooms with computer terminals but no one there. Also, other than normal maintenance they are not supposed to go inside. Probably the SOF guys have some additional appointments to hide their true appointments? Haha

In case of war

Cannot show faces of instructors/trainees as they are special forces and identity is confidential. Its the same worldwide where u dont expose ur operational special forces.

Face shown = likely didn't make the cut. Face not shown = likely they make the cut and thus identity shld be protected.

@@weiyang4589 wa . then how do they introduce themself to ppl putside if SF ? family members ? or just say in cdo ? thwir uniform shld hv sf badge ?

Looks like it. Even their field packs are of the old olive green design which was phased out around 2011.

They are just using old stock, just like how some recon cadets use old ALICE pack for training

Filmed in 2019.

ALICE pack best, have lower back support and the frame.

The latest ILBVs are very similar to the old ones, whereby its just 2 straps with a strap across

Hi bro, we meet again XD

Maybe clear opsec issues?

why not?

ya i guess always sent final video to review , more mosaic here or there . last min changes also hv

Because those that passed JSFS would then go for SFQC. JSFS is 2 weeks and then SFQC is 8-9 months if I’m not mistaken. Took 3 years cos they need to wait to know which faces they have to blur out and which faces they can leave it as it is. And also of course they need to go through the footage to cut out parts that couldn’t be revealed etc

how did u know its 2019 video?

It's almost a requirement for rank promoti within their unit.

SOF trainings are way tougher than Ranger course, if the person is a SOF trooper, Ranger will be a breeze (not that they will be complacent though, since it's still 1 of the toughest course). Many years back I've already heard that there is a requirement for CDO regulars to get their Ranger tab (not tap). If not, they will not be offered the "2nd contract".

@@DragonX2X7 think it's still true now...

are u dumb, special forces faces are not supposed to be shown on screen

It was shown coz the inmates agreed to reveal their identities so those blurred faces in CNA documentary and here were the ones preferred to keep it secret.

Eyesight can be easily corrected with laser. Not an issue.

nope, there are certain eye sight requirements but definitely NOT glasses = out.

@@DragonX2X7 i was thinking the same way too. like wearing specs in SF is a huge no no.

@@jajalshadow In a sense SG have to be realistic too, myopia is on the increase in every developed country, SG's increase is higher than average too. As long as the doc (along with other information) can prove/show that it doesn't affect (or affect too much) their combat abilities, it shldn't be an issue. There are ways to "tie down" the specs to make sure it's secure. In the Army, everything shld be "tied down" on the person, including the side arms. So if specs can "fall off" so no specs allowed, then the same can be said for side arms. Just a side note, doc/scientist have enough evidence that wearing glasses alone wont affect pilots doing their jobs (be it combat or commercial), up to a certain limit (colour blind is a no-no, but shld still check with an Aviation Doc as they know best). Any pilots wearing glasses just need to have a 2nd pair with them just in case the 1st pair gets dmg/lost/etc.

After Aloysius Pang's death they cracked down on a ton of safety stuff.

@@TWJYILY a shame that the ones at the top in mindef seem so dissociated from the world of special operations then... i hope that it is the way the documentary is being filmed and that really alot of real content was thrown out that isnt doing a good job at portraying the rigour of our SF selection because of opsec reasons because atm, if I were to compare side by side with the selection courses of the GGK, the Aussie 2CDO and SASR, 1NZSAS, US green beret selection, RASP, German KSK, Danish frogmen etc. , the difference is quite stark.

@@lychvy8023 Definitely a lot removed for Opsec, but also cause SOTF lacking manpower.. they toned down the difficulty around same time as AP's death.

@@TWJYILY again like I said, that's really a shame. And stupid on Mindef's part imho. Aloysius pang wasnt a regular or was he trying for SF at all. How could they do such a silly blanket imposition of safety regulations? When you see other SF selections, it is not just beyond normal but it is fully expected that many candidates will pass out from heat strokes, get injured, puke, and even have casualties on the rarest of instances. Not being a sadist, but when the conditions are actively controlled to prevent this, can you really say that your SF selection can still be rigorous enough?

@@lychvy8023 Basically they couldn't afford another incident so soon. And at the same time SOTF was having manpower issues so I guess they just decided to tone it down. That year SFQC toned down a lot as well.

Then you go do combat and come here share with us loh, mister big cannon.

That's not totally true...soldiers who stayed too long in combat...are very often damaged product...for your information more US soldiers die from suicide then from actual combat..in Iraq..Afghanistan...and they continue to kill themselves...many years later...The best troops are the very well trained FRESH troops...

Did you say this because you got kicked out of the Special forces selection? Or you kena bully in the army? Or you fail OCS?

"Real combat experience makes real soldiers!" ~ commented by someone whos closest experience are FPS games

@@MrQuackism maybe he kena sodo by encik. 😱😱

Alot of it is left out man....for very obvious reasons

The rest are just ops related.. physical session mostly covered in this video

NDU is hell week. This is hell course, throughout the whole course. Respect to these volunteers.

That one NDU pasal ah

Cause this is just the testing phase, the tekan phase is week 2. And it's just a selection anyway lol.

lol, not true. Besides I didn't see anyone complaining in this video. Neighbouring countries might choose to show more while SG chose to show less. Where's the element of surprise if you show or tell everything?

1. OSA rules 2. No reason to showcase full training 3. This is entry-level training (Selection Phase)

How do you even know it’s tougher? Lol this is not even the full thing that they’re showing. Small details like the distance for the lbv run is not even revealed. And no one is complaining. Are you watching the correct video?😂

The truth is nobody hurts coz who cares about their training. They can trained as tough as they want but when their airplane or submarine submerged into the sea, SG army willing to help and locate it.