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Today we're preparing for our biggest-ever electrical installation condition report, within a property that consists of 7 different distribution boards. We also uncover some true DIY electrical shockers, along with fixing some overdue solar faults.
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@matthewseymour8972 Год назад

Absolutely loved the light labelled "does not work"

@bsmith2053 Год назад

I always laugh at the comments about "dodgy" DIY'ers" etc. But if you have a think a fair amount of the issues you appear to find are actually done by qualified trade staff.

@artisanelectrics Год назад

Worrying isn't it?

@msutton3147 Год назад

I agree with this, I am also disappointed when I hear "Bodge jobs from Electronic Engineers who think they know what they are doing" my father was an electronics engineer and spent 10 years training before being qualified. To quantify them as some type of idiot compared to an Electrician is simply not very fair.

@davideyres955 Год назад

@@msutton3147 I have to say it does get a bit tiresome to hear “DIY Bodge” as the comment when he’s already listed a hell of a lot of installation failure by clearly a qualified or pretending to be qualified electrician. It would be far more productive to say why this was so bad rather than rant about the DIYer who did it when you don’t even know if it was one who did it. I can’t think why someone would consider wiring a multi plug extension lead directly in to MCB, but then again as an IT geek what would I know 🤬

@jons6125 Год назад

@@msutton3147 I think he meant different areas of specific knowledge not idiots. Obviously someone could do something that works without hurting themselves but it still not be correct under electrical installation standards.

@5pr1nk57 Год назад

@@msutton3147 Some of us are qualified electricians, electronics engineers and IT techs! 🙋‍♂️

@andrewtitcombe8378 Год назад

Love it when a pro likes to climb on another persons work to make them selves look better than the last guy. 2.13 stand all over customers furniture to access panel . like to see that one in the risk assessment .

@chapman9230 Год назад

I live in a modern four bed house with one consumer unit. I planned on moving on retirement to something much bigger. Watching this, I think I will stay put. What gets me is that this stuff looks pretty new and yet has all these issues. The other thing that gets me, is who wants to live with this level of complication in their life.

@trevorstevenson4038 11 месяцев назад

I have always found it unusually funny, when you continue to feed the cable despite the other person yelling that they have enough cable haha

@williammartinculleton5875 Год назад

Wrong, DB4 Top board, that bare copper link is a factory fitted link correctly rated. Th other one is as you stated. Massive thank you or sharing

@jamieblatantsparky Год назад

I thought that’s too

@williammartinculleton5875 Год назад

@William Tell Yes even Jordan can make school boy errors, no doubt we all have at some point

@JohnSmith-ws7fq Год назад

Neither N9-10 link on DB4B (2:48) nor N5-6 on DB5B (3:42) appears factory fitted or correct.

@TheRoybeasley Год назад

I have little or no understanding of what you are doing, beyond first principles. Yet I still find it really interesting to watch.

@Dont-Evan-Bother Год назад

Makes you wonder how on earth the guys behind the original work ever managed to become fully qualified electricians.

@Lenny-kt2th Год назад

Same as with drivers and driver's licenses...

@1990themule Год назад

Who’s to say they were

@aussiegruber86 Год назад

Most likely not qualified

@moodyga40 10 месяцев назад

most likely back yard sparks

@guy4469 Год назад

When i was growing up as a kid we had a semi detached house house, when we went on holiday our neighbour went under his floor boards knocked through the wall in too our house and wired his house too ours . our bills were huge .

@Shaggy-8392 Год назад

Every electrician comes along and says the last one was shit.

@steve11211 Год назад

Unfortunately its part of the industry, complaining it should be a C2 instead of a C1 but then saying cover missing on busbar that would be behind the front cover so completely within regulations is a C2... I personally dont think you should bitch too much about others EICR's as they are an engineering judgement so is open to interpretation, it should be based on regulations but the regs are so woolly that it can lead to differences of opinions.

@lewis94uk Год назад

Every tradesman

@tocboatman Год назад

Not sure every electrician, certainly some. I had an electrician in a rental property we own recently telling me an installation was bad, he'd forgotten he'd done the installation I do have electrical qualifications and was able to show it was OK (distance of ceiling light from shower cabinet), he was just trying to create some work. Was utterly shameless when I called him out on it.

@steve11211 Год назад

@@tocboatman yep, im a fully qualified spark but needed someone in London to do an EICR for my partners rental, he came back with FI because he didnt check the light switches had a fly lead from switch and back box because he didnt want to damage decoration.. The light switches tested good as having an earth and had at least one fixed lug so didnt even need a fly lead but when he went back and checked they had them anyway.. So and FI which means it fails and needs investigating so you would have to potentially damage the decoration anyway, like you say just trying to get more work..

@Lenny-kt2th Год назад

The shoddy work you keep finding never ceases ta amaze me.

@paulmatthews5470 Год назад

If you're on the lookout for DB screws and install MK 3 comp dado often, the end cap screws fit nicely in some metal DBs as long as they aren't tapped.

@MagicianMan Год назад

Jordan..... time 8:40 "Eddi should be wired of a 20A Double Pole Switch....." - That's not correct. "The Eddi device should be connected to a single-phase 230V or 240V nominal AC supply. The supply should be from a dedicated 16A circuit breaker, or it can be from a hard-wired 13A fused spur outlet if the heater load is less than 3kW."

@electrician247 Год назад

I think we need to see the duck impression again. Just to make sure it's close enough to perfection 😂

@artisanelectrics Год назад

🤣🤣🤣

@BerkeleyTowers Год назад

For us non-pro's, what was the issue with the extension lead off a breaker? Apart from looking amateurish, from a regs/theoretical pov, what are the issues? If the cable is glanded into the box properly and of an appropriate size with the correct size MCB/RCD etc for the cable, isn't it just another radial circuit?

@BerkeleyTowers Год назад

Anybody? Nobody?

@TheAviation101 Год назад

The only issue really is that the cable is not secure, a clip would sort that out. If you tug on the cable, you risk the connection becoming loose as it is currently

@user2C47 Год назад

Once you cut the plug off that cord, you instantly void the product's certification. It was also never certified in the first place to be connected directly to a breaker. While I'm not familiar with building codes in the UK, but I imagine using a non-certified product is very illegal.

@TheAviation101 Год назад

@@user2C47 not at all. You can do modifications but now you take responsibility for it. Usually the cable has its own certification/ specification such as h05 and is perfectly rated for terminating to a breaker. You might just want to ferrule the end

@BerkeleyTowers Год назад

@@user2C47 You might have a point, but I'm not sure what's valid in your State/Country necessarily applies here. I think if the cable is to a BS or harmonised European standard, it would be ok. You can easily get the component parts of an extension lead which would comply if those parts are built to the relevant standard. Fixed installations of flexible cables are allowed with caveats. This is where UK regs can get "woolly".... Various trade bodies would regard such an installation as "not advisable", but it's not illegal. As always, if it all goes horribly wrong, a Judge might well ask you to justify going against such guidelines.

@iwayini Год назад

Cheers for the video guys!

@KenJustice_uk Год назад

haha I'm 100% one of the bodgery committing "IT nerds and electronics engineers who think they know what they are doing"

@robertburrows6612 Год назад

A very big bug barer of mine is SWA not terminated properly. I carry a set of taps and dyes to repair dbs , because of damage screw and cross threaded screws

@CoastalElectricalGowr Год назад

Guys can you please collect all of your cable trimmings into a box or a bucket as you go. It's not acceptable to just flick them on the floor, essentially outside. Why did Lee refit the Zappy back on the cobweb/ dust covered wall without giving it a brush off first? Apart from that, good work.

@Spark101. Год назад

The busbar cover being absent doesn’t warrant a code providing the CU cover is only removable with use of a tool. (It isn’t a code 2 as you suggested)

@Mainly_Electrical Год назад

That what he said a 2 ?

@Georgerossiter2000 Год назад

I died with Jordan and the duck at the start 🤣🤣💀

@chrisfox8125 Год назад

Great content as always! Where did you get those rubber inserts for the stuffing glands? Need something just like that!

@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ Год назад

Possibly from a Wiska Winsert Kit.

@BillsCountrysideAdventures Год назад

Proper job lads ❤❤

@s.kxx1956 Год назад

The irony of the last electrician/inspectors company name on the stickers on the db’s ! 😂

@gorillaau Год назад

Must have been proud enough of the work to put their mark on it. Trouble is who is able to tell what they did and what was legacy back jobs.

@litz13 Год назад

These fascinate me. Rules there are so different than here in the US. The ceiling of my basement, as found when I bought my house, would have given you guys a collective stroke. 😅

@andrew7440 Год назад

If you want spare threaded screws, get a case of assorted threaded screws from screwfix or similar. You can generally find a match. But those Eaton boards are a pain, I can't believe they never made the screws captive!

@tomlowe4156 Год назад

I think any unused cables in a distribution board should have all conductors connected to earth. Otherwise, whilst being extremely unlikely they could become live and not necessarily from touching a live conductor inside the DB. There’s a potential for it to happen somewhere on the cable run or in the back of an accessory etc. Just good practice in my opinion

@matiis1368 Год назад

Agree, have always C2’d floating cables in DB’s for that reason.

@OkenWS Год назад

Have to agree - as a meter fitter we were expected to isolate and instruct the customer to call an electrician whenever we saw hanging cables. If I had done that, I probably would've isolated hundreds of customers in three years and created a lot of nothing-work for electricians - and trashed the reputation of meter fitters even more. I just don't understand why people leave hanging cables everywhere - it simply introduces doubt in the minds of the next duty holder to turn up to do work.

@andrew7440 Год назад

However you then run the risk of that unused cable becoming live in the event of a fault. I agree with terminating to earth unused cores on a multi core wire, but not spare cables. Especially if you don't know where the other end is.

@danimayb 8 месяцев назад

No no no, Not spare cables at least! They could become live during a fault... And You know the outcome of that if connected to earth.

@mienmoeke 10 месяцев назад

I'm just happy if something is tagged at all. Even if it is just with a sharpie. The tagging has to be correct,though.

@peternutt5646 Год назад

Nice work boys

@jonnyw4724 Год назад

Aren’t you supposed to fix C1’s at the time, as they’re immediately dangerous?

@vjaceslavprants6258 Год назад

no busbar cover is c3. most of the faults found are just not neat installs, doesn't mean its unsafe.

@matty-hu6yf Год назад

No code

@jennyli7749 Год назад

In uk to be reassured that the solar installer is going to do a good job is to find one that’s MCS registered which is an industry led quality assurance. Scottish government loans make it mandatory to use a MCS registered company. It’s not a legal requirement to register as MCS though and that’s where your problems come from.

@pah9844 Год назад

Do you think this is the same for a 23 plate?. Took mine to the local garage to fit and they couldn’t work it out as said no holes.

@2391Sparks Год назад

I don’t think that much of the previous testers to be honest let alone the installers. Good video 👍

@Sean-fj9pn 2 месяца назад

I'm not a professional electrician but not even I would make some of these "mistakes" or be happy with the quality of some of the work shown.

@nicotoscani1707 Год назад

whats wrong with cutting a huge round hole in side of consumer unit for cables?

@mr2gti Год назад

Never letting you see how I got power to my shed! You'd rip me to shreds lol. Great content gents.

@UnjustifiedRecs Год назад

Is it as bad as my 30m Extension cord? 😂

@user2C47 Год назад

Mine is fed by a 16 gauge extension cord into a very overfilled J box. It was meant to be replaced with proper SE cable and a breaker panel, but as we all know, there's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution.

@Spark101. Год назад

The loose T&E in the CU is a code 2. It’s a bare ended cable, not adequately terminated or capped off to prevent the copper ends touching live parts inside the CU and subsequently making the other end live. It is no different to free floating cores inside a switch for instance that hasn’t had a choc block or wago popped on the end.

@dasy2k1 Год назад

Unterminated ends bother me too.... But then again I'm a railway signalling engineer.... And Clapham Junction shows why they aren't a good idea

@rorygrice5758 Год назад

The multibox lead wired directly into the board at 5:00 doesn't violate code that I know of where I live(New Zealand). Dont get me wrong, it is Jank with a capital J. But sometimes Jank is a pretty good solution. Sure, running the multibox off a single plug socket would be better, but if you have a multibox with a damaged lead, why not reduce reuse and recyle by curing off at the damaged part of the lead and putting it to good use instead of the landfill? So long as the customer is happy that it works, costs them a little bit less to implement, and complies with your electrical code, why not embrace the Jank every once in a while when you have the opportunity to do so. Don't tell me you don't love that shit. We all saw the look on your face at 5:21.

@user2C47 Год назад

Once you cut the plug off (or damage the cord), that product is no longer compliant and can't be used. Not only that, but it was never listed in the first place to be connected directly to a breaker. Even knowing that, I still would have probably connected it exactly like that if it didn't have to be inspected.

@alerighi Год назад

@@user2C47 What are you saying? What is the difference of buying a powerstrip without the cable and one with the cable fitted and cut off the plug? That thing is probably not elegant, but either not dangerous, assuming the breaker is properly sized for the extension lead and the cable (10A or less with 1.5mm2 cable), there are a bunch of power supply attached anyway. I see this done a lot where I live and it's perfectly fine, usually this is done in a similar situation (where it's just lazy, just fit sockets come on) but to power strips that are attached to desks or in racks of equipment. If you need a lot of sockets in a location using a power strip is cheaper (for example where I live a schuko socket of a basic like like Gewiss is no less than 10 euros, plus you need the box and the faceplate, while a 6 places power strip costs like 6 euros), it's faster to wrire (you connect one cable, and done), and doesn't present any code issue. Of course you have to use appropriate cable up to code (that is in my country no less than 1.5mm2) and double insulated even for the short run that comes into the power strip.

@Rabarebane 8 месяцев назад

@@alerighi two things: 1) didn't show whether the flex cable leads were ferruled - possible bad connection, specially if the breaker had solid lead also connected and 2) the breaker is probably oversized for the usual .75 mm^2 extension cord cable, both creating possible fire hazard inside CU. It is true, that it would not be much safer if there was a single outlet and THEN overloaded extension cord, but the line has to be drawn somewhere and at least in my country it is between fixed installation and user-connectable stuff.

@stephenhamlin5996 Год назад

That loose cable in the board should be coded. They should of terminated all cores down to earth. Potentially the cable could touch the busbar or the like and become live

@paulf3353 Год назад

I mean really, what's wrong with properly wired extension directly from a consumer unit? Assuming fuse and wire gauge is correct? Is it not safe?

@zjzozn Год назад

Nice 🐸

@Kackspack0815 Год назад

What does CT clamps do?

@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ Год назад

They provide a contact-less means to measure current flow in a conductor.

@zerobatsu Год назад

Let me know when you’re in California and you can come fix my house 🤣

@danieljadorie829 Год назад

What are these C1s 2s and so on? Is that the severity of the violation? I'm a US industrial electrician so I'm not familiar.

@user2C47 Год назад

C1 - Imminently dangerous. C2 - Potentially dangerous. C3 - Improvement recommended. Copied from the uploader's reply to another comment.

@roystevenson1375 Год назад

What's a harvey?

@seanfindlay9887 Год назад

Lee looking scruffy give him a disciplinary

@pljones75 8 месяцев назад

Cut out fusses DO NOT protect the incoming supply cable.

@delrey-p Год назад

These videos make me think I'm in the wrong trade lol

@bryan8686 Год назад

How much would a full re wire be think it would be easer

@steve11211 Год назад

Artisan prices thats got to be a left arm and a right leg at the very least... For the profit of that rewire Jordan would be able to afford another electric VW van..

@2036scott Год назад

@@steve11211 It may be expensive, but at least it is a job well done, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys as you can see from the prior workmanship.

@jamieblatantsparky Год назад

Jordan , please stop pointing, electricians don’t point , your finger was an inch from that busbar while your doing a piece to camara , also cat 5 cable is for data not for CT,s it’s videos like tho s that make everyone thinks it’s ok and it should be a belden cable twisted pair , it’s easy to tell this as it’s what ever single act is supplied with

@artisanelectrics Год назад

Sorry 👉

@jamieblatantsparky Год назад

@@artisanelectrics hey don’t be sorry to me it’s the EAWR that you need to say sorry too

@JensenPGATourDriven Год назад

The thumbnail picture look like you got new Premises, Great video interesting guys ⚡️👊

@artisanelectrics Год назад

Thanks 👍

@Sixta16 9 месяцев назад

5:05 Whats wrong with terminating an extension cord directly like this? If it is terminated correctly, fused properly, I see nothing wrong.

@marymadigan9707 Год назад

Nice one guys 😎🇮🇪👏

@artisanelectrics Год назад

Thanks!

@crundwell1 8 месяцев назад

Using Wago’s on data causing issues with high resistance over time. Much better to use IDC crimps.

@eliotmansfield Год назад

Be careful about throwing rocks about IT Nerd diy work - because it many cases its substantially better than so called professional work. Your video of you trying to wire in that ecoflow changeover unit and making a complete mess being a good example.

@user2C47 Год назад

While I'm well aware that it's not up to code and voids the product's listing, my first response to that extension lead at 5:00 was "There ain't _nothin'_ wrong with that!"

@paulf3353 Год назад

Yeah, this is pure ignorance, I've seen as many bad jobs done by "professionals" as bad jobs done by "DIYers". The only difference professionals do charge you a lot for work.

@bigshoe9130 9 месяцев назад

Nah man DIYers and techy guys are the bane of any electrical installation. It’s just embarrassing whenever you turn up-to a job and see what they done. The best part is is that they are so proud of themselves for making it ‘work’…. You don’t know what you don’t know. Your right though - there are bad electricians out there.

@michaellowery1559 Год назад

Thank God! They got you guys to do Job Right!😃

@reargiro5102 Год назад

What do you mean when you mean C2 C3 or C1??

@artisanelectrics Год назад

C1 - immediately dangerous C2 - potentially dangerous C3 - improvement recommended

@reargiro5102 Год назад

Good to know

@moodyga40 10 месяцев назад

looks like a whole heap of fun must me a big humpy

@Mallyhubz Год назад

LOL I tape my LAN cables to my drill bits to route them at home, and of course I don't wire my extension leads right into the board 😅

@artisanelectrics Год назад

😂

@RB-lt8kt Год назад

A Faraday cage is not just a metal box as its used to block electromagnetic fields, electrician taking nonsense as the metal box can reduce or interfere with the sensors signal but its not a Faraday cage (a brick wall can reduce signals transmitted through the air). Some Electronics engineers know a lot more than you do so don't put them all in the same pot. There are many sparky's who cut corners like the ones who installed bathroom down lights using terminal block and wrapping the connections in insulation tape and stuffing them under loft insulation (halogen bulbs in down lights). They also used bits of plastic pipe to try and prevent insulation covering the down lights that just fall over and this was found in a 15 year old house by an electronics engineer.

@philware1546 Год назад

Why have optimisers on those solar panels. Looks like there's no shading?

@Daleeather1975 Год назад

What’s some of the scariest single and three phase installation you have seen ??

@Kackspack0815 Год назад

What does C2 and C3 mean?

@andrew7440 Год назад

It is a measure of the severity of the observation noted. C2 potentiality dangerous, C3 improvement recommended.

@MarkUKInsects Год назад

This weeks two mystery words are befuddled harvi. Or is this the wrong channel? Do I still get a goody bag for spotting them?

@gorillaau Год назад

I want listening properly as its early morning at time of writing. I was thinking "Harvey? Who is Harvey? "

@davidjones6779 Год назад

EICR is a formal inspection and therefore should be of a universal standard. BUT it's not. It doesn't seem any electrician sings off the same song sheet. They all have their own opinions, this I feel is wrong.

@andybarron6572 Год назад

I'm an IT nerd AND an electronics engineer and I would NEVER have connected an extensioon lead into the CU. 😜😜

@oninbridders Год назад

2:20 should you ever hide a consumer unit? That should be a C3 in itself. Power goes out and Mrs Jones trips in the darkness because she can’t find it.

@user2C47 Год назад

In the US, that would be a code violation due to minimum requirements for open space.

@andrew7440 Год назад

Same as the height, wouldn't comply with building regs Part M on s new build, but they can't be applied retrospectively.

@pow1983 Год назад

By the sounds of it they've paid twice and then some for their solar panels... wonder if they will get a return of their investment during their lifetime

@SuperWayneyb Год назад

🤘😎🤘

@petraspetraitis3355 Год назад

under the picture.

@mattde Год назад

Still struggling to get on-board with the voice overs!

@rossthompson1635 Год назад

I like this presentation style, has a lot better flow.

@jackreid7 Год назад

“C2 no busbar cover” C3 at most

@andrew7440 Год назад

Yes, considering it needs a tool to remove the CU cover, and the CU should be off when cover is removed, it is technically not really an issue.

@Newit2 Год назад

My Heat Pump uses 50kWh a day when it goes minus 2 a 4 bedroom 125m floor space how bad is that no one wants to know.

@backacheache Год назад

Don't see why it was necessary to use derogatory language about computer and electronic technicians, we are all at the sharp end of dealing with customers so let's have some cameradery

@henkondemand Год назад

I knew that line was going to blow some fuses with the IT and engineering crowd. Engineers and IT guys to tent to be tinkerers and that can lead to questionable experiments sometimes, he's not wrong on that in my view. Maybe it could have been worded more sensibly for the more sensitive IT/engineering folks.

@Rabarebane 8 месяцев назад

@@henkondemand well, tbh, most IT infra (including cabling) techs look at electricians the way electricians look at plumbers.

@intherealworld7705 Год назад

Fair play to him snagging his own jobs on RU-vid

@kevxsi16v Год назад

The MEM 3 boards are good so at least someone cared. I have been to farms much worse than this like the one I was in last week that still has black rubber from when electric was brought in in 1947.

@andrew7440 Год назад

And the farmer says, "nothing wrong with that, been working since the 1950s...."😂

@Cmdad Год назад

Another farmer scrimping for pennies I see

@juliebtech200 Год назад

😂😂😂

@tomorichard Год назад

That second neutral link is factory fitted isn’t it??

@Jimbobb12 Год назад

First comment

@havoctrousers Год назад

Why a C1 or C2 for a missing busbar cover? The homeowner is never going to take the cover off the CU and skilled and instructed people like ourselves know not to touch a live busbar!

@oliverpapps7840 Год назад

Do you subtract the time you spend presenting to the camera from the hourly work cost you charge the customer, and do you seek permission from the customer to show the interiors of their property? Does any of the money you make from RU-vid lead to reduced costs to the customer?

@bulletbullet7902 Год назад

One day content creators like you will not inject music into your videos. I so look forward to that day. I couldn't finish watching it as the music in the background was doing my head in.