Under The Red Flag - Axis Ships in Soviet Service 

If only they knew what trouble they'd have building carriers later, the hilarious disaster that was the Graf Zeppelin may have been useful.

It appears, around March of 1947, there was supposedly a decree by the Council of Ministers that German ships should be sunk, rather than scrapped, as a symbolic act of spite to the defeated Nazis. More likely, though this is pure speculation on my part, the Soviets found German steels to be less compatible with Soviet infrastructure and needs in the immediate post-war period when ships like Lutzow and Graf Zepplin were sunk, so they didn't bother trying to use it. German steels had different treatment and chemistry than most Soviet steels, and to use that steel, the Soviets would have to use more energy to purify and reprocess it to Soviet standards. Given there was a HUGE volume of Soviet scrap steel to be extracted from the ruins of the war, be it wrecked tanks, worn-out machinery, and similar,, a few thousand tons of German steels that would take more work to rework was probably not seen as worth the effort.

​@@George_M_ Unfortunately, komm*u*nists aren't commonly known as people who come up with intelligent, practical solutions.

Graf was extremely outdated, even the Germans knew this. For the Soviets to operate it they would have to develop/ finish development of aircraft, refit/finish the fitting process (which would be hard due to a lack of provisions for AA guns), and train a crew on the operation of a German ship. All of this to get a mediocre carrier was not seen as worth while, especially due to ongoing design studies on conversions of other hulls into carriers. The Soviets decided to use it as a way to learn on "what sinks a carrier" as the US and UK , their premier enemies at sea, both had large carrier fleets, at least at the time (the UK would greatly down size their fleet in the post-war period). TLDR: Graf would have been a bad carrier, and was used to learn how to sink a carrier rather than as one. Side note: Post WW2, there were a surprising number of old carriers floating around, Hosho, Aguila, Graf Zepplin, and half done Weser.

There were four of those sail training ships. Brazil and Romania each got one, along with the Soviets. The fourth went to the US Coast Guard, was renamed USCGC Eagle and remain is service today. I sailed her on a cadet cruise in 1978, taking her from San Diego to Victoria, Vancouver and Seattle.

COOL

Then we need to get in on selling the German navy used parts €135 million to refit her plus the undisclosed amount to rhe first yard Elsflether who went went bankrupt in February 2019.

Lützow as well.

The Japanese had some innovative destroyers for their era.

And why does that effect u its a pretty pathetic reason to be offended abt

that would be too cool to find

No no you don’t their navy was a joke then it is now the only ones not a joke in their navy was the sub groups during world war 2

also known as a barracks ship. Basically, hulked and moored dockside to house sailors. Exactly what those sailors are there for can vary, from 'don't have enough shore-side housing' to 'using this as training'.

@@skyneahistory2306 ok...i've heard of barracks ships before just never knew of them being called an accomodation ship before

lol

No, they can have Good things when only if Russian Empire is still alive and the Tsar will agreed to those ships they received. Unlike the Soviets are pathetically deceived it and believe on their pipe dreams on being a Commie to build their own, but lacks all things to build that requires. Lucikily on Brehznev ruling they start learning to build somehow hybrid ships.