Underarm, Tweener & Reverse: Every Type Of Tennis Serve! 

I think people just like to hate Kyrgios but he does make the game more interesting. Same with Bublik, but to a lesser extent.

It's a travesty no matter who does it.

Lol you made this up.

They do it to themselves. I don't mind Bublik as much though he has a history of playing with a lack of heart, but Kyrigos has the worst sportsmanship I have seen in decades. Only Bernard Tomic gives him a run for his money.

@@Mzee1084 hmmmm

And none of them won a Grand Slam... curious, right?

Agree

It's jsut like any other drop shot. If yu are standing too deep in the court,a not are not alert, they got ya.

I can see why they complain they have every right to complain it is kind of an act of unsportsmanlike conduct because it is unfair but every player should be ready for every thing so I agree

@@BunnyBoy223 It's unfair?? With that standard, then every shot that is unreturnable is "unfair"

@@BunnyBoy223 It doesn't favour anyone except the person who's better at it, just like any other shot.

Of course. It's a perfect answer to the players who return form ten feet behind the baseline, which is a relatively new strategy.

you have to understand that tennis has always had this weird tradition of 'gentlemanly/ladylike conduct' that goes beyond just the rules of the game. that's why you always apologise after a net cord, or signal to the opponent that you're using new balls etc. No rule, just etiquette. that's why McEnroe was such a controversial figure; he acted exactly like pros do in other sports, shouting, yelling, having arguments with the umpire etc. You just DIDN'T do that before he came along. It was rude. Now we're seeing a shift of the same kind RE: serving. Underarm has always been legal but you just didn't do it. Now players are starting to see no problem with it

@@rosePetrichor Unterarm was actually normal back in 1890.

@@molybdaenmornell123hopp5 Yeah, right at the very beginning of the sport when it was played by lords and ladies on the lawn lol. nobody had figured out how to serve overarm then

@@rosePetrichor so historically, underarm is more gentleman/lady-like then?

They played in Miami 2019. Did not disappoint

They paired doubles in Stuttgart 2022.

He’s up 40-0

if he can put the threat of the inverted serve in the other guy's head, it will pay dividends. 40-0 is the best time to do it.

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Yes

Musseti also did on match point.

Did it Work?

to be honest, the only problem with an underarm serve is when it gets *predictable* i think for a pro player who's going to serve, the worst thing you would want to have is to immediately give the point's advantage to your opponent, and if the underarm serve isn't placed in a good spot or is too predictable, the receiver could just hit an easy winner or a tough shot for the server to get back also, as much as i dislike the sort of stigma the underarm gets, it is sort of a nasty 'underhanded' move against opponents, especially if you're up with an advantage in points otherwise, i think an undearm serve isn't necessarily worth perfecting, and i'm sure there are player who prolly can utilise it very well. but as a secondary weapon to your first serve as opposed to just developing a better second serve? idk

I wouldn't be surprised if the reverse serve becomes a standard weapon for a lot of players...like the screwabll or cut fastball are in baseball for pitchers. Why not? Just the threat of it has to inhibit the returner's game....

Been using that one ocassionally, really hard to get it, even harder to give it a decent power. Actually didn't know some players were using it too, just thought of it as another potential weapon, since I like having as many options as possible. If you can add it to your bag of tricks, it's great, but maybe not worth the time commitment to get it to a functional level unless you have a really good feel with it quickly.

@@AxelSG I agree. It's tough, but it's doable. Most pitchers don't have a screwball, either. But the ones who do are often very successful because of it.

@@AxelSG The trouble is that it can really mess up your elbow if you overdo it.

Look up "pancake serve" here on RU-vid

start the set off serving big, then once they've moved back to try and have time to react to your big serves, hit them with underhands, now once they're back, and will have to commit to running up to the underhand serve do the fake underhand-quick and you just completely destroy the ability to react to your serve so they have to commit to playing rock paper scissors

The underarm serve is simply a way to keep people from stand so far behind the baseline when receiving serve. If I were playing against Nadal, I'd serve underarm every 2 or 3 serves to keep him honest. If anything, people should be booed for standing too far behind the baseline in the first place.

Why would deceiving your opponent be somehow not fair play? That's the logic of a seven year old. "Hey you didn't do what I thought you would do, no fair!"

I agree, I see it similar to baseball (balking)

I agree but on the other hand, the returner can avoid the trap by running into the court as Edmund did. The server can't complain about the returner not being ready in that case, because he faked him into it. Eventually it ruins the server's rhythm more than anything else. A genuine underarm definitely has its place in a world of returners like Nadal, who dodge serve bullets by standing between the linesmen and the ball kids.

You know, I think that's just a regular serve! :)

And he lost the point the and he still was given the point?????? Weird lmao

I agree. Although Lendl wasn't angry at the serve. Ivan came in and made a decent approach shot on it, What annoyed Lendl is that Michael's passing shot clipped the net, so Ivan missed the volley. Michael did not apologize, but it was not standard protocol to apologize back then. I used all these serve in tournaments. If I got down 0-40, I'd walk out to the single's sideline on the ad side and serve underhanded with a lot of sidespin into the ad court, then quickly move to the middle. A lot of times, the opponent would try a cross court drop, but it would go wide, because the spin gave the ball more carry than they anticipated. Another trick was to hit a change-up serve...big wind up, but tap the ball....into the ad court, and run in behind it very quickly, looking for a volley. the returner would often mis-read the speed, but the try to over-compensate by hitting a hard angled passing shot off a ball with no pace.....not easy....they would have been better to just massage the ball right at me or down the line...but the bluff often worked. When you do these things, it messes with their heads, and they will often make an easy mistake or two on the next couple of shots.

they hit it like a smash, the movement is just different from a regular serve

It's not very different from disguising a drop shot during a rally.

The receiver must play at the server's pace

Pretty mediocre

@@MistahhMingus he has developed his serve to be one of the best on the tour,

bruh its so ez , i did b4 i knew it existed u just do a slice and hit with the other side the raquet and revrse motion as the slice in slice u swing the racquet outwards , in this at the end the head has to go towards the body plane

Agree. It’s just a drop shot of a serve.

I disagree. Faking is fine. There's even a serve where you swing and miss on purpose, then bunt the ball over the net underhanded, just before it hits the ground.

Yeah, i think bahrami did this 👍🏼

"it's hit during a time when the returner is not expecting it" That's the entire point... Do you not understand why someone would do a dropshot as well? If a player doesn't expect underarms serves, maybe they should learn to because it's a completely normal and fair tactic to stop playing from sitting 5m behind the baseline.

so?

@@afifanuar749 deez nats

because a kick serve is a regular serve. not worth mentioning

It's never a douchebag move to use a completely legit and fair tactic to win a point. Especially in a game like tennis where the game isn't over until it's over.

"So this means that the receiver has to be mentally prepared approximately when the ball is thrown." So what? You never actually gave a proper argument against faking an underarm serve. "that's an unfair advantage..." Thanks for showing that you don't understand what the word "unfair" means. It's not unfair if both players can do it.