Undercover in the UK’s grouse shooting industry 

Can you shoot them as well please mate. You’d be doing the good people of this world a favour.

Burning is too prevent wild fires cos off uneducated people think is ok too have fires /bbq's wen its tinder dry and makes better vegetation not only fore read grouse but numerous outher wild life ?

@@jamieabbott9970 that’s still not the point, just ban BBQ’ then you won’t have a problem with the fires. Burning heather also damages the peat and kill of many species of nesting birds. Half a population of curlews were killed on a grouse mood in Ireland after “managed” burning got out of control and killed all the eggs and chicks as well as some adults

How is it showing an abundance of raptors when they are constantly being culled? Go to any driven grouse moor and chances are the only thing you will see is a grouse, maybe a crow or couple of lapwing if your lucky. Then go to a moor where it’s still managed (e.g burning/cutting heather) but not used as mono-culture for grouse and you will see tons of curlews etc. I can understand that ground predators do need to be managed in some circumstances, but culling corvids and birds of prey won’t help any endangered species, especially when you take into account corvids and raptors have a very minimal impact on overall bird populations

There are no Goshawks that have any chance of lasting more than a few weeks anywhere near a grouse moor. They will either be shot or poisoned. Fact. A part of any Gamekeepers remit is to rid the area of raptors and predators. I really wish these country idiots would stop trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

@@dave6148 not everyone from the countryside is an idiot, only the people that kill rare and protected species

@@theotheseaeagle my apologies- I didn't mean to imply that all 'country folk' condone this illegal activity.

@@dave6148 no worries

Ban the left.

go vegan

*THEIR ;)

go on then mush, tell us the facts. ....you kill anything that moves, that's a fact. the writing's on the wall, bollock chops.

@@blackbob3358made my day that comment mate. 👍

@Pete graham how so

@@jabiru1232 because grouse moors blatantly kill millions of threatened birds of prey each year just so they have grouse to shoot. It’s ridiculous, they care more about a stupid pointless sport more than they do the wildlife. Also burning the heather is what causes wildfires especially when it’s not done properly or it’s dry weather

@@theotheseaeagle I think you’ll find burning the heather reduces wildfires and helps wildlife because the heather doesn’t grow out of control as long as the job is done properly grouse shooting is also far from a pointless sport as I’m sure some gamekeepers do wrong and illegally kill birds of prey witch they should face punishment for but it is far from millions but because of the sport of grouse shooting it has been made profitable for the gamekeepers to control the number of stoats and foxes which will overpopulate if they aren’t controlled and thus giving disadvantaged species of animal a chance of living because the environment has been so altered by humans that it has now become human responsibility to balance which a responsible gamekeeper will do. You antis need to upen your eyes a bit.

@@jabiru1232 yes but many grousemoors have birds of prey culled, some of which are on the red list (such as hen harriers).

@@theotheseaeagle I’m sure some do and that’s wrong but most moors are honest and value the wildlife more

@AUTONOMEN x Who told you that?

But oh sooo Beautifully ALPHA.

@AUTONOMEN x Truly?

They get away with assaulting hunt sabs on a regular basis. The police actively protect these illegal hunters . We need justice

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FOR 30K U CAN COME HERE AND HUNT PHEASANTS AND DEER

ya Mum

@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 Hunting is NOT illegal, trespass is illegal.

The Tories love their blood sports .

the reporter running after people with the microphone didnt even have a mask on.

ERm...Along with Football, Netball, Hockey, Polo, Rugby, Paintball even...Etc, etc..

@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 What like football and polo etc?

@@martinda7446 football contributed 7.6 billion to the UK economy in 2016-2017. Its a bit different to a bunch of posh tits with bloodlust swanning about a feild with no one watching... ...but the less said about Rugby the better....

lick lick lick

Its a Human thing. Not a "overprivilliged sociopaths" thing ya Mug.

Over privileged 'Psychopaths ' more like.

I am a HGV driver not really over privileged also if we were psychos we could not have fully licensed firearms

Oh give it a rest

You’re in complete denial. There’s a prosecution on its way, it’s obviously not a set up.

@@jamamafegan4 being in the profession as legal Counsel, I can tell you that a proverbial coach and horses will be driven through that 'prosecution' such as you maintain. Good luck all the same.

No shooting . No Grouse.

Like Tottenham?

@@dinxruntings Tommyrot. They are a UK native bird that has been here at least since the end of the Ice Age, ie pre-grouse shooter and gamekeeper.

@@ChrisJB come to Ireland and see how many native grouse there are. There are an estimated 400 breeding pairs. We have no commercial grouse shoots on the island of Ireland. We also have no Red Kites, Osprey or Eagles. This is because fox, magpies and crows, have been the dominant predators. There is only a limited food supply so all other competitors are struggling to establish. Do you see my point? Like it or not, the managed shoots produce more varied species in greater numbers compared with non managed lands.

Yes, but we have those three raptor species in habitats where no driven grouse shooting takes place and where predators aren't 'removed'. Your point also illustrates beautifully that red grouse aren't dependent on grouse moors (contrary to what Silver Back above says). My point being that those species can happily exist where grouse moors do not. I have driven grouse moors close at hand and I have decent moors close at hand, so comparisons are straightforward. And with my experiences of both, I am confident in my assertions that the archaic management of grouse moors impacts biodiversity harshly, whether it be raptors, waders, small mammals, amphibians, reptiles and/or invertebrates. I have spent some time in a conservation capacity in Eire and whilst not overly blessed with raptors, it makes up for it in other ways. ATB, Chris

Extinction

That's for sure...but it'll be some lunatic like Trump pushing the nuclear button...not Beta Males shooting Birds

Cool.

Hunting with dogs is something saddos with nothing else to do with their lives do to pass the time (this does not include using dogs for retrieving I mean using dogs to illegally kill foxes, badgers, deer etc).

You sweetheart would not exsist not for the dehumanised humanity that came before you.

Are you also a vegan, or just a hypocrite ?

Would you say the same to Native Americans or Australian Aborigines? No. Everyone would agree that hunting is natural and an essential part of their culture and general existence. We are so "woke" that we have lost our understanding of where humans belong in the natural world.

@@stephenbishop8991 yes but murdering birds of prey just so you can have a few more grouse is absurd

@@stephenbishop8991hunting before was to survive, using spears and stuff. Hunting now is for the fat rich people with their guns :)

When reporting facts is seen as bias you might have to consider you're on the wrong side

in fact the UK imports the same amount of lamb as it exports; then the new export markets for lamb will eclipse current ones no problemo

I guess that’s kind of true. People should be blaming the landowners really and not the gamekeepers who are just doing their jobs

You'd still have a moor, it would just be more diverse in species. It would no longer be a man made monoculture of heather. These areas weren't heather monocultures going back in history and supported far more abundant and varied wildlife.

@@DeLunny Biodiversity as your only goal ignores the niches certain (endangered) species need, and ignores the dramatic loss of heathland the UK has undergone over the last few hundred years. Its a rare habitat, and different habitats naturally have different levels of biodiversity. Planting more trees would just kickstart succession and yes, that would destroy the moor. Dramatically changing the habitat is indeed a terrible idea for said species and for the wider conservation of heathland. “Plant more trees” is a way to increase biodiversity in degraded or destroyed habitats yes, but destroying a rare habitat for woodland that we already have a lot of is a terrible idea.

Grouse is lovely yes

Too right!

No one should be allowed to shoot other animals for fun . C'mon , we can do better than that now .

Oh John you really are a moron! I'd like you to be shown some serious corporal punishment for your attitude, dimwit!

@@simoncooper8272 go on then educate me! just insulting somebody shows that you are of little worth something you would wipe on the grass. what don't you like about my comment!

Sure you think it's ok for people to shoot birds if it's free! Government doesn't fund any royal land! Or it wouldn't be royal land! Bet you voted Brexshit too? It's all yours for free! Hence the dimwit, dimwit!

Jamie Abbott Did you not see him beating the Goshawk with a stick? If the keeper wanted to release a live bird, why not just let it go without putting it in a sack first. Clearly, he wanted to hide the evidence

Red Grouse

Where do I sign up? Sounds great fun

Yep, let’s see how they like it

the real ugly,nasty left crawls out into the open.

Silver Back doesn’t matter at this point does it left or right, a nasty p.o.s, is a nasty p.o.s. I’m only offering a fair alternative. 🤷‍♂️

@@dinxruntings Cry me a river...boo hoo 💪🏼😎

They turn it into the police and they are doing something about it.

All very convenient having a camera set up and catching a "hoody" taking a bird from a trap then without evidence claiming the bird was killed. Perhaps the police should be investigating the people who reported the alleged "crime"

Boy the Left now wants law and order. lol

Would love for someone to explain where they get this figure from. Seems unbelievable.

Bullshit figure that. I don't believe it.

Same for them BLM terroists.

What a dumb comment

It would save me shooting the two legged bores!!!

As a shooter its lovely to see people like you who aren't part of the comunity but still suport us when we have to deal with the media like this. Thank you

What's your point? Anyway pay attention the first part of the video where the hawk was killed and the other bait birds were discarded in the stream was covertly filmed! Let's go out n shoot some birdies, if it moves they can kill it!

one sided one .

You’re in denial. Stop asking ridiculous questions.

@@jamamafegan4 not denial, just want to know for there are almost zero goshawks on the NYM but loads of other hawks such as sparrowhawks.

@@turquoiseowl _"there are almost zero goshawks on the NYM"_ That's kinda the fucking point. Jeez.

@@Teeb2023 no answers so more questions: Why does the 'hidden' camera move three times during the incident? Why are three jackdaws put in the trap, but only one remaining when the raptor arrives? Why does it take several minutes to kill the raptor (going by the movement of the sunlight on the hill)? Smells more than a bit fishy. Staged.

@@turquoiseowl Not true at all. There is a well watched raptor watchpoint adjacent where goshawks are seen reasonably often. I speak from experience of course. And does it matter what species of hawk it is? It's still illegal. If it is indeed staged as you confidently assert, the man in question and the industry has nothing to worry about.

Have you any evidence to back that up? Not that scarceness or commoness has any relevance of course.

@@ChrisJB datazone.birdlife.org/species/factsheet/northern-goshawk-accipiter-gentilis

The 'global' map only shows them as widespread. It cannot possibly illustrate individual countrywide populations. In the UK (where this took place) they are a rare and much persecuted species.

@@ChrisJB Even in the UK, they are not considered endangered species in any way. The population is stable. In fact the black grouse of which the goshawk is a predator is endangered and is on the red list for conservation. However if you are worried simply plant more forests and depopulate the UK. Perhaps we can have peasant shooting season to replace pheasant and grouse shooting.

@@GEMahler The UK population is indeed stable, stably low at around 350 pairs with localised declines and displacement, often due to persecution. The Peak District population adjacent to the Moscar Estate being a prime example. I'm glad you made reference to black grouse, as they are a species I observe regularly in North Yorkshire, County Durham and Cumbria and I'd say populations in these locations seem reasonably consistent in the several years I have been observing them. Besides, so what if goshawks (and foxes and mustelids, etc, etc) take a few? That's nature, a natural predator- prey relationship. Either way an illegal act has, in all likelihood, taken place here and the conduct of the '(cough, splutter) custodians of the countryside' in the film did their cause no favours either.

the deer population would be utterly out of control

I should hope he is not!

Sounded like it to me

Stop crying you child! An accent isn't a race 🤣

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Child ? I'm 35 chief and nobody said an accent is a race dumbarse .

And Luke Steele is a jail bird. Fancy having him as spokesperson. The film crew and antis illegally obtained a Forestry Commission key to access land in order to film.

@@cloudycider of course they did. It will all come out in court (but it wont ever get there).