In most other subyway systems this would be pretty safe in that the third rail is most offen guarded with a kind of protection over it or power comes from an overhead wire. But for the tube this was a pretty dangerous move. One slip and this would be a video on some sub reddit.
Not really, this tube line runs on DC power, so if you just touch one rail you will be fine. You can only be injured if you accidentally touch both power rails, which is quite unlikely.
@@jamesupton4996 Nothing will happen unless the other power rail is directly connected to the thing you are touching. Trams work the same way, many people touch the negative power rails without knowing it every day without any problems.
@@vighdavid9495 in every city I know, trams run on overhead power wires, not contact rails. It would be homicidal to have powered rails running along the streets
@Saber I think Daniel Bryan would came out of this metro 😂😂😂,,don't take it seriously iam just joking 😂😂😂..But no doubt it seems to be Daniels theme song 😂😂
The fact that I am seeing this after 8 years , the fine tune called upon for the operation , the lack of click bait , the shortness of the video , the red paint on the train , the skilled balancing act , the four man team work , the lack of squeak when the train stopped , the successful Pat on the back for a dangerous job well done , oh and the lack of fare dodgers . What a lovely little film " BRAVO ! "
Although we laugh, the person retrieving is doing a very high risk job because London Underground trains are powered electrically and the power lines are directly underneath next to the wheel rails!
I am from Japan. I agree with you. This action is unthinkable in Japan. Even in punctual Japan, even if it had to stop for 30 minutes, they would act more safely. I also can't believe that they moved the train when he was leaning over. If he fell off, his life would be danger.
@@AVeryRandomPerson Still, it's not possible in my country. I didn't find a video of the same case, but I find this video of a certain trouble. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hVUezUNU7w4.html The upbound Shinkansen were service disruption for 40 minutes by this operation. Stopping the bullet train for 40 minutes is a big problem and tens of thousands of passengers are affected by it, but they still prioritized safety, called in specialized workers, cut the power, and solved trouble according to safety manual. I'll not saying "his way is wrong", but to me that subway worker's action looked so scary. He should be more protective of himself.
@@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa obviously never driven a underground train .... If the train hit a rail gap the train could have lost power and then surged forward sending the bloke flying ....
@@Engineer9736 Not sure how much RU-vid Premium costs in your area but where i live it costs 15€/month… those are more or less 15$/month… So you spent 540 bucks just for being ad free in RU-vid for just 3 years… imagine being proud of such stupidity like you 😨😂
@@vaclav_fejt The soundest thing to do here would be to request the control centre to cut power, then attempt to retrieve the object only when power is indeed cut
@@MPSpecial that would disrupt the flow of the line, even emergency repairs are done to the tunnels with the current switched on it's just about knowing your job really well to not step on the live and ground yourself to anything
@@jay-xo9dx If it was deemed to be too dangerous they wouldn't have done it and putting a block on the line and turning off traction power for a 2 second job would have been ridiculous
Tim Morgan yes that’s true however they probably didn’t intend for the member of staff to do it like he did by just standing on the coupler head whilst the unit was moving, he was endangering his life as he could of so easily slipped as the driver stopped
He should never do that. Ever. That’s dangerous. The rails down there carry a very powerful live current that could mean something horrible if God forbid a human were exposed to it. Serious injury or even death. Those tube trains have communication systems on them that route directly to control centres at each and every station for a reason.
I worked on one of the UK's railways and removing articles from the track is absolutely saturated with bylaws and regulations. You need a license to be able to remove stuff from the tracks, and you need get the line blocked. It would be so easy to just get a litterpicker and pick it up, but if you do that, say bye to your job. The guy in the cab likely had a PTS license so he can go down on the tracks and perform duties, I assume the driver would have called the signaller to confirm what they were doing just in case, just an unusual way of getting it done.
That looked a bit dangerous to me. I don't know for sure if the random object was just a sheet of paper, if there were any metallic layers on top, it could be conductive and gave the conductor an electric shock the moment he picked it up.
A hero usually rescues people, not poorly attached advertisements in subways 🙄. It's just dumb to risk your life over such a small thing. And he's unable to stick to their rulebook as well. If people don't stick to their given procedures then a company becomes a mess of 'everyone just does what they want'.
Otherwise it should be a disservice. So they had few steps: They opened a cab door, they removed an ad from track and they returned to the normal positions (closed cab door).
Having worked on the London underground were not allowed on track with the power on full stop. He's stood over 750 volts DC so if he had fell death would of been the only outcome.
I thought that was why he leaned over without touching the live track. But what about those videos of commuters falling/being pushed over......how comes they are not electrocuted? Thanks
Aha Richard.... You must be station staff .... No rail is 750 DC .... The rail he is standing over is 250 Dc and the furthest rail ( nearest the wall is 450 Dc ) .
@@kingash85 DC current pulls you towards it ... Meaning if you land on it evenly you can't pull away ... People attempting suicide/ pushed tend to fall with force sliding by the 250Dc middle rail.... Hence why the rail with most current is furthest away from the platform (450Dc).
@@joeeeee256 Mhmm being a train enthusiast we care about service This is just a joke I do care Do not worry. im not a 1700s prison warden making people go on the electric chair but a bar
This is a very risky retreival, because paper can conduct when it is damp, or even the glue on the paper. I would have insisted that the power be turned off, or at least rubber gloves or an isulated rod be provided. 600V DC can fry you in the 'wrong' circumstances.
@@atent5124 Better than having somebody killed, I daresay, and sections of track can be relatively easily isolated. That move was very dangerous and as an Electrical Engineer myself, I would have forbidden it.
@@29brendus Not how it works on the underground bro,It is either, all of the line is off, or it is all on. All underground staff are trained to deal with problems like this too
@@atent5124 I saw a video a while back on isolating sections of track on LU. However, I don't work in this area, and will bow to your knowledge. Either way, I am never going to let a driver or even a subordinate engineer touch a paper lying on a live rail. Cheers. And having said that, I am against all the insane components of the H&S malarkey.
If we adhered to every single bit of health and safety legislation, the whole developed world would grind to a halt. I like to call this a dynamic risk assessment in action.
@@justandy333 I understand that, this is to much of a risk. They moved the train with someone leaning out of the front. Then they reached over the electrified 3rd rail that can easily kill you. They also stepped on the coupler, this can brake it.
@@utaamtrak9584 - I admit the risk is higher. So the alternative is to shut down that entire section of motive power. Which takes time. So you turn a 30 second job into a 20minutes job. Causing allsorts of conjestion behind it which would take several hours to clear. Not ideal in one of the busiest underground networks on earth.
@@justandy333 I totally get that, but if an employee dies that would take longer and they most likely would be blamed in the media for letting it happen. I think a better solution would be to stop the train short and then use the telescopic wond (used for phones) to retrieve it.
How many times do I have to repeat this, in order to get electrified, you need to touch the conducter rails, train or almost anything that conducts electricity in general
Yes, looking at the thumbnail I too just for a second thought someone was stood there holding something like perhaps a coat that had been thrown or dropped on to the track.
Unfortunately now days you would have to shut the whole station down just to get that. Recent health and safety is a load of bollox bring back the old days
@@paulanderson79 but if he fell onto the live rail he would be fine, plus the train wouldn’t because the train is covered in paint and 420V isn’t enough to go through paint or plastic
@@Gabes1321 he would not be fine if he fell onto the live rail because chances are he wouldn't *just* be touching the live rail, he'd almost certainly touch something else and have a large potential difference across him. He's not just some pigeon on a wire.
AND THEY SAY FROM THAT DAY HE DISAPPEARED AS MYSTERIOUSLY AS HE APPEARED, SOME SAY WHEN A SMALL THING NEEDS TO BE DONE, HE MIGHT BE THERE OR NOT AT ALL, BECAUSE HE IS PROBABLY AT A NEW JOB.
@@kpjlflsknflksnflknsa he's leaning on the coupler head while the train is shunting forward over electrified rails. Obviously it would've been hard for him to be electrocuted or even killed by the train at that speed but this could've been dealt with better.
If the guy shunting the train forward had let go of the dead man's handle and believe me driving at that angle its easy to do the guy would've been a gonna
Notice how the lighs switch and look really wierd at 0:06 when he opens the door. I think its a safety feature so the workers know that he left the cab. Idk i just know it look strange
Yeah it’s the lights switching from day running lights to marker lights, marker lights are for when the train is either at the depot or stationary for long times. On the new underground trains I think they are linked to the door I don’t know but I’ve seen it on other trains with a front entrance service door
