Understanding Everybody Wants To Rule The World

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Tears For Fears were famous for their meticulous production, spending months dialing in the exact sounds they needed to make their audacious synthpop anthems work. But what would happen if you took that attention to detail and forced them to make a whole song, start to finish, in like 2 weeks? Well, that's how you get Everybody Wants To Rule The World. It was a last-minute addition, conceived and created at the very end of the production process for the album, but that risk paid off.
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@12tone 2 года назад

Some additional thoughts/corrections: 1) For reasons I don't fully understand, the stems I found for this song seem to be slightly sped up relative to the actual recording? Which is weird, 'cause it's typically the other way around. Anyway it seems to be only a couple BPM, so I'm not sure anyone would notice if I didn't say anything, but it does make the notes fairly sharp compared to the things I'm saying, to the point where it'd probably be slightly more accurate to round up to the next half-step. I decided to go with the note names based on the original recording instead of the thing I was actually playing for consistency, but in case anyone out there has perfect pitch and was confused, this is why. 2) One could argue that the intro riff _is_ in groups of 2, and it's meant to be a polyrhythm against the main groove. That fits with what's on the paper, but it doesn't match my hearing. The lack of dynamic accents means that, when the drum beat is played, the riff naturally organizes itself (for me) in groups of 3. It's only when that beat is missing that I hear groups of 2. 3) All the information on specific synth tones comes from this incredible article reconstructing the entire song: reverbmachine.com/blog/tears-for-fears-everybody-wants-to-rule-the-world-synths/ 4) A minor clarification: I said Smith drags his chest voice up instead of using his mixed voice, but mixed voice includes elements of chest voice. I think it's clear enough that I meant he drags up his _full_ chest voice, but if you want to be pedantic, here's your pedantic correction. 5) I said Smith and Orzabal adopted similar techniques, and I stand by that, but there are some differences. In general, I think Smith's delivery is more relaxed, while Orzabal's is more percussive, and he's also more likely to flip up into head voice, like in Head Over Heels. But when singing through this middle range, they both share that same approach to registration, which was my main point. Listening to this song and Shout, it is not immediately obvious to me that the two songs have different singers. (Also to be clear I don't know why they chose to do this, or whether it was in fact a conscious choice at all. When I said that it meant you could always tell you were listening to Tears For Fears, I was discussing effect, not intention.) 6) I didn't get into this in the video because it's not relevant to this specific song, but when talking about how the explosion of affordable synth technology in the 80s changed music, it's hard not to think of the legacy of the Roland TR-808. This was technically an analogue synth, not a digital one, but its relatively low price made it a staple of the evolving hip-hop scene, and the sounds and techniques it introduced can still be heard in hip-hop today.

@Hiphopasaurus 2 года назад

The sharp pitch is something that's always bugged me about that song. All versions that I know of are like this - just confirmed it with the official TFF RU-vid and Spotify. Was this an artistic decision or just a badly calibrated tape machine? Maybe we'll never know! Interestingly the remake of the song in the Reverb article linked is much closer to standard tuning, in case we wondered what it would have sounded like in the studio originally.

@ferragi 2 года назад

Great song choice! I also had the same feeling that something was wrong in the intro but your explanation seems correct.

@Arakiel9 2 года назад

I started college as a Music Education Major - Voice was my instrument... so it was cool to hear you mention that was your focus much of the way through your time in college. I was shocked when you said that Smith was using his chest voice to hit that F#. I ALWAYS heard that as head voice. I thought he was using falsetto. It STILL sounds like that to me. I trust you 100%. You know more about music than I ever have or ever will. Much respect. It's just odd that my ear is so off in this case. My ear was never all that great, but I clearly hear falsetto. Anyway, as always, I love your content, appreciate the work you put into it, and value the information and entertainment. Thank you!

@GrimAxel 2 года назад

TIL the singer on Shout wasn't the same singer as on Everybody Wants To Rule The World.

@markfdesimone 2 года назад

Maybe the stems are at 44.1 kHz but you were playing them at 48khz? Or maybe someone else did something like this before you got the files

@HellshakeBrando 2 года назад

This has been one of my go-to karaoke songs for awhile now. Definitely gonna use "loose intonation" as an excuse the next time I drunkenly botch a verse 😅

@ransbarger 2 года назад

Love it.

@ikepigott 2 года назад

I’ve done it for karaoke as well. It brings down the house.

@dannygray4898 2 года назад

This is one of my favorite songs, and takes me straight back to 1985, the moment I hear it.

@bigmingus8049 2 года назад

I can't sing "world" Too deep

@jasebroers1232 2 года назад

@@ransbarger o

@manifestgtr 2 года назад

Anyone who hasn’t listened to the entire Songs from the Big Chair album *needs* to…it’s TFF’s magnum opus, imo. This tune, the entire head over heels suite, mothers talk, listen, the working hour, shout…it’s just a front to back masterpiece. On top of that, it’s a really good representation of what was happening in the mid-80s. Lots of reverb, Linn drum machine, clean strats, thick bass, tight playing and massive vocals.

@grantandrews4826 2 года назад

For real.

@abramquinn7726 2 года назад

The Working Hour💖💖💖💖💖

@jayparangalan9671 2 года назад

While I agree that Songs From the Big Chair was an amazing album, I personally considered Sowing the Seeds of Love their greatest achievement. But, to each their own.

@deathbypigx3h 2 года назад

I totally echo your sentiments about the album! Listen is probably my favorite Tears for Fears song.

@manifestgtr 2 года назад

@@deathbypigx3h Absolutely, listen is such an overlooked cut. I think the slow build might be a bit much people with short attention spans.

@lfatx 2 года назад

“Going home is giving up and we can’t give up yet” - musical advice explained so nice

@ikepigott 2 года назад

One other thing - Orzabal’s guitar solo was low-key killer. It gives you that sense of hope, because it injects something organic into all those layered synths.

@MrCherryJuice 2 года назад

Neil Taylor plays the solo at the end of the tune. Roland does the first bit prior and the chord solo to the accents and 'I can't stand this indecision....'. Yes, Roland can play that final bit but the band always has a great second guitarist and that role goes to him. Taylor also played on 'Broken', 'Woman in Chains' and 'Year of the Knife', the latter two being from 'Seeds of Love'. Taylor is also with the band on their concert video, 'Going to California' and it with them on the 'Live at Knebworth' video. His solo on 'Everybody...' is real Steely Dan caliber creativity. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xH50e8bsHO4.html

@ikepigott 2 года назад

@@MrCherryJuice awesome, thank you!

@LittleLouieLagazza 2 года назад

I've been trying to conceptualize and articulate this freewheeling solo overlay in my head since 1985. You nailed it. Thank you!!!

@rillloudmother 2 года назад

@@MrCherryJuice word up, if you listen closely you can hear the different 'voices' between the 2 solos.

@jimmydriveway 2 года назад

@@MrCherryJuice I also read that it was one take.

@naturaljoe759 2 года назад

I grew up listening to to Tears for Fears and Genesis. Always knew it was good music but it wasn’t until fairly recently that I realized exactly how complex some of these songs are. I love it.

@TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад

Eh depends on what Genesis era… The Phil Collins era was pretty meh, but the Peter Gabriel era on the other hand was fantastic.

@avisoncino8665 2 года назад

Well 70’s Genesis is some of the most complex popular music. Especially Peter Gabriel era Genesis

@avisoncino8665 2 года назад

@@TokyoBalletReprise the first couple Collins-led albums were great. A trick of the tail is a fantastic album

@TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад

@@avisoncino8665 Instrumentally “A trick of the Tail” was definitely good and very good in certain parts too, but it lacks the fantastic songwriting and creative vision Peter brought to the table. To me “A Trick of the Tail” is to Genesis what “The Division Bell” is to Pink Floyd. A very well composed album that lacks the vision, flair, authenticity and (especially) the songwriting chops.

@WalterPavlikII 2 года назад

@@TokyoBalletReprise And Then There Were Three is an amazing record. ABACAB has some more fantastic songs. Matter of fact, each of the Phill era albums has at least one extended "prog" songs on them.

@TheMister123 2 года назад

7:00 - Something else about Curt Smith's voice: His singing voice is VERY different from his speaking voice. This isn't particularly uncommon, but the differences between his two voices are VERY noticeable. Accent, timbre, everything. The whole "pulling his chest into his head" thing that you discuss is likely a big part of this.

@PhilMoskowitz 2 года назад

That's true for every British singer known for singing RnB and Soul music.

@anthonypazo1872 2 года назад

To be honest, I'm a little surprised you didn't recognize the intro as triplets right away. The hi-hat does disorient a little bit, but it's just 6 hits against the 12 triplets in the synth. But I love your analysis. This is one of my top 5 favorite 80's pop song.

@EricF 2 года назад

Same. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@popstargirl79 2 года назад

Why? With respect, you’re not living in his brain so why would you be surprised? I suppose it’s because he’s a musical theory genius..🙂 I heard triplets.. but I’m not 12 tone. All the best 🙂 Edit: in this comment I just shot from the hip as I wrote about him being a musical genius and think I was trying to big 12 Tone up (without really considering why) but no offence was meant in regards to the guy’s very reasonable comment. it was just a quick, first, kinda straight, unconsidered shot and I think an emotional response to someone saying something about why someone else thinks something-and also an honest idea about 12 tone going into the vortex coz he can-tho really there was not much need for my comment-love and respect to all

@halcooper3070 2 года назад

@@popstargirl79 if you heard triplets, then you heard it as 12/8. I think you're missing what 12tone is saying was his issue. Which 3 each triplet or 4/8ths encapsulates is his issue. If he was hearing the intro 8th as part of the first triplet, then he has literally never heard the riff before. And that's surprising. Oh, and music theory genius? Its theory, not relativity.

@popstargirl79 2 года назад

@@halcooper3070 thanks for your reply.. I don’t watch loads of 12 tone stuff but he’s great at music theory.. I think I was just saying to the other dude that because 12 tones so into music theory and good at it (kinda genius in my book) then maybe he heard it like that because his mind ‘can’ think and interpret it that way, which I probably couldn’t. (However, maybe I could, but I wouldn’t be able to necessarily say why by using music theory) 🙂

@halcooper3070 2 года назад

@@popstargirl79 as I pulled out my guitar this morning, to play the lick, amd the verse chords, I realized 2 things... First, the chords imitate the lick, shifting to the second on the 6, that's possibly why most hear the lick the way I hear it, I still can't imagine even liking the lick as 12tone heard it. Second, being a guitar player means you understand the origin, and therefore the rhythm, because of the natural way to play it. Upstroke on the first note allows you to alternate the rest of the lick, endlessly. If you start downstroke on the first note, what a mess, it's awkward and unnatural, and I'd have to practice it a bunch to play it smoothly. Plus, the pick strokes on the recording tell you how it was played. Still leaves me wondering how it can be heard any other way, but maybe the guitar is my bias, I was playing it on stage as soon as it came out, so of course I'd see it that way

@kwarrtzorau7203 2 года назад

Personally, I *have* always heard the opening rhythm as triplets. If I'd never listened to the song before I might not, but knowing what's about to come next it's much easier for me to hear it that way than hear the transition as a tempo change.

@Kathayne636 2 года назад

I also always heard it as triplets, but maybe hearing the rest of the song did it.

@TimLesher Год назад

Same here. At the beginning of this video I thought, "wow... I've had it wrong the whole time?" (not an uncommon revelation for me when watching 12tone's videos)

@rruhland 2 года назад

I just tried singing that main lick without going falsetto on “to” and it’s absolutely impossible. I just naturally kick up there on that note. I forced myself to stay down in chest and couldn’t help but scoop up into the note.

@kitemanmusic 2 года назад

Robert, I recently had a go at recording this song, and experienced exactly the same problem. I have a Bass voice. I am contemplating lowering the key.

@acason4 2 года назад

I’m a baritone & I don’t have any trouble getting there in chest, but it’s definitely easier to get there via falsetto. I think it’s an easy song to try an over sing. I find just relaxing helps those type of transitions much easier when I don’t over force my diaphragm…

@Celatra 2 года назад

@@acason4 i am a baritone myself but i have received good mixed voice training so i can do it seemlessly. it just takes coordination and training really. and relaxation, like you said.

@waywyrdweazel6111 2 года назад

As a passionate music enjoyer, getting a peak behind the curtain of music production is like looking at a nice blue ocean and then promptly submerging into it's depths. Music is so much more complex than people give it credit and I have utmost respect for the pioneers that have brought music as far as its come...

@CynHicks 2 года назад

To be honest the actual writing process is not necessarily that complex for most music; even music with complex structures. Intuition is a huge part of writing and theory is there as a tool to help here and there. Think of it like this; the in-depth study into all of the physical reactions of a single swing and strike of a bat to a ball that leads to a homerun is extremely complex. However, the batter isn't necessarily thinking or knowledgeable of all of that and doesn't need to be. It is helpful for the batter to have some level of understanding of the physics though. Hope I didn't ruin the illusion for you. 😉

@29memyselfandi 2 года назад

@@CynHicks Agreed. As someone who used to write songs in various bands during my younger days it was often the unplanned intuitive, instinctive jamming that produced something worthwhile, on occasions where we sat down intentionally to write something in a pre- agreed key or style the results were usually underwhelming. Creativity is a peculiar beast. He can show up when you least expect him and hide from you when you most want him.

@CynHicks 2 года назад

@@29memyselfandi Pretty much anything I've ever written as a "theoretical demonstration" has become an exercise or completely lost. Parts, of course, make their way into improvising/writing. Theoretical knowledge, at least for me, is mostly useful when writing leads which for me is always improvising in the beginning. The creative (intuitive) aspect is what a "good" song starts with and is polished with. In my experience every musician that I know of that couldn't write a decent melody before theory can only write a decent one after. Like you wrote about creativity though; it's there or it isn't and no amount of theory is going change that. With some exceptions of course, as with most anything.

@TheMister123 2 года назад

5:00 - Tears For Fears is ABSOLUTELY known for musical misdirection at the beginning of their songs. Their very first song / title track of their debut does it, as do several other of their songs, including this one. (The title track "Elemental" is a third example.)

@digitalskins 2 года назад

Elemental is underrated

@warriyorcat 2 года назад

Standing on the Corner of the Third World does this after the bridge. it's twelve measures, but if you aren't counting carefully you will get lost.

@LiveNinetyNine 2 года назад

@@digitalskins nope its garbage

@user-svqmbiv 2 года назад

@@LiveNinetyNine no u

@dcarts5616 2 года назад

@@LiveNinetyNine why is it garbage? 😮

@newwavepop 2 года назад

i think its one of the greatest pop songs of al time. i think the song has a wonderful uplifting hopeful sound to it while the vocals have a beautifully melancholy vibe and some how it blends together perfectly.

@richarddoan9172 2 года назад

One of my favorite parts is the climax, where the song builds and he sings "Say that you'll never never never leave me." The verse melody and rhythm is radically changed, going from long spondee, to syncopated and bluesy. It's brilliant. Also, great video.

@EmonEconomist Год назад

Say, that you'll never, never, never, never need it One headline why believe it?

@21Danieltbs 2 года назад

I've always heard this as a rock shuffle beat as a drummer. Just the hi hats going a lil different playing on the 2nd eight note triplet on beats 1 and 3 and plays the 1st and 3rd triplets on beats 2 and 4. That's how I've always counted playing along to this song.

@chairmankaga101 2 года назад

Well, they were one of the best songwriting bands of the 80s, even if most folks don’t actively remember how great they were (still are). I think they just wrote a really interesting song.

@Green-eyedGirl19 2 года назад

Have you checked out their new stuff!

@chairmankaga101 2 года назад

@@Green-eyedGirl19 the new record is great. Yeah! They were on Colbert recently as well, and sounded amazing.

@Alex-cw3rz Месяц назад

@@chairmankaga101 in terms of lyrics I'd say they are one of the best of all time, writing Everybody wants to rule the world would put you up highly already combine that with Mad World as well!

@khirnera 2 года назад

I cannot Express the frustration I felt when I saw your time slug doodle, nice StS reference. Also a great video in general!

@onlygalactic1744 2 года назад

Everytime I hear the song I think of driving my car down a dirt road with friends and just having fun.

@TheMister123 2 года назад

"EWTRTW" didn't exactly spring from Roland's head fully formed at the end of the sessions. The rhythm, beginning picking pattern, choir synth melody, and guitar solo originated on a demo called "Pharaohs". ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EoIDw5Bf8Gw.html

@kehindea 2 года назад

Exactly and did this guy mention Daft Punk? Lol they predated DP by over 10 years. Man people just enjoy the song instead of analysing it in ignorance.

@rbailey1240 Год назад

I LOVE Pharaohs! I have been known to play it on loop endlessly!

@JeremyForTheWin Месяц назад

@@kehindeahe mentioned DP as an example of music that's purely artificial without organic counterpart, not to suggest they were contemporariws

@fepatton 2 года назад

This song was new, and played endlessly on the radio, when I was in college. As a drummer, I pretty quickly figured out what was going on in the intro, but yes, it’s totally done to mislead and surprise you. Whenever I would hear that intro, I would FORCE myself to hear the triplet in it and get the groove in my head as quickly as possible. I figured a drummer had no excuse to be fooled by such tricks. 😄 Great analysis!

@Armakk 2 года назад

Love your "layering" insight and it really really REALLY makes me hope you do "Sowing the Seeds of Love" someday because it is layers all the way down. And sneaky time signatures.

@sihplak 2 года назад

I find it interesting that you notated the song in simple instead of compound meter. I've always heard it as being in 6/8, so seeing you notate the chord vamp as a dotted quarter, then an eighth tied to a half note in 4/4 really threw me off, because I'd hear that as a dotted quarter tied to a normal quarter, then an eighth note tied to a dotted half note (all in 6/8). I definitely understand the metrical lack of clarity in the beginning, but for me, even that clearly delineates 6/8 after at least a full listen of the song if it's not clear at first, especially with the guitar pick-up and percussion. From a percussionist-background, it's a very common compound-meter trope to alternate between two notes/sounds but accent every third beat (for example, capital letters as accents, something like C d c D c d C d c D c d). This is strengthened by the fact that the "off-beat" pitches shift to accentuate this pattern; the B -- the higher of the "off-beat" pitches, happens on the second beat in 6/8 (using the earlier method: F# a f# B f# a). It is really interesting to learn how different people perceive it though. From a percussionist backgrouind I've been very in tune with tropes like this that can trick casual listeners. For example, isolated hi-hats to me are very idiomatic for indicating weak beats before strong beats come in, so often times when I hear tracks that don't introduce extremely clear metric identities, when the off-beat hi-hat trope comes in I instantly sync up with the non-accented downbeat due to practice-learned intuition.

@janhaanstra2245 2 года назад

Once you hear it, you can't un-hear it😃. As a drummer turned keyboardist, I still see and use keyboards (especially piano) as a percussive instrument; so you can have a 6/8 over a 4/4, as long as they "lign up".

@xyz39808 2 года назад

yeah I don't hear a 4/4 shuffle, just 6/8

@seralouise. 2 года назад

thats so interesting cuz it literally never occurred to me u could even hear it as anything but a shuffled 4/4. maybe its bcuz i have drummer brain so, to me, the thing that sticks out to me to most abt this song is that groove.

@thetalantonx 2 года назад

This is exactly how I've always heard it as well, thanks for the insight.

@ceegers 2 года назад

Something I think is interesting to add on to your analysis is that during the 17:25 melody that is finally D-centric, the bass part decides to Stop playing a D as part of the progression and instead go to a different progression (B-C-B-C-G-A). P.S. You're totally not alone on the intro being confusing

@Richard_Jones 2 года назад

Yeah, I was going to say that, the melody should be hopeful but the bass makes it melancjoly

@lp-xl9ld 2 года назад

This has long been a favorite of mine...I had the TFF Greatest Hits album and absolutely loved it. Then I see on CBS SUNDAY MORNING that they're back together and doing new material! How crazy is that?

@Green-eyedGirl19 2 года назад

Uhhmmm, they have been back together since 2004!

@0Fdigital 2 года назад

Their new album is pretty great!

@beatrixwickson8477 2 года назад

I have to admit that I never thought about it but always heard it as though the start of the song was cut off as a stylistic choice or unfortunate accident. It never occurred to me I was hearing it wrong. I have no idea what I would make of a live version.

@igmusicandflying 2 года назад

I've maintained for years that Tears For Fears is prog rock band disguised as a pop band. Their songs sound so simple at first, but when you start taking them apart, you keep finding all these tricky layers. This is one of the exemplars of that idea. It's interesting to me you brought up prog on this, even if you kind of dismissed it.

@TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад

I mean you could consider quite a few of Tears for Fears’ songs as being “Prog Pop”. “Prog pop” does exist.

@5roundsrapid263 2 года назад

@@TokyoBalletReprise Prog started out as pop; Pet Sounds, Revolver, etc.

@TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад

@@5roundsrapid263 Revolver & Pet Sounds are not prog. Revolver is mostly psych rock and Pet Sounds is Baroque pop/Sunshine pop.

@pdkett1 2 года назад

@@5roundsrapid263 Yeah, I guess it was Progressive Pop. The phrase 'Prog -Rock did not exist in the 70's - it was called 'Classical Rock' and 'Fusion' was called 'Jazz-Rock'.

@KirbysAdventureMusic 2 года назад

I mean, they covered Sea Song by Robert Wyatt during these same sessions... they were also present at the first 1981 King Crimson (still billed as 'Discipline') concert in Bath.

@Kiaulen 2 года назад

Wait, this is April 1st and not a parody. Isn't that illegal around here? 😂 Fantastic analysis as always.

@Aphelia. 2 года назад

Yessss I was waiting for this one!! Thank you

@dannygray4898 2 года назад

This tune is one of my favorite songs of all time. It takes me straight back to 1985, the moment I hear it.

@eggydrums 2 года назад

Been watching your channel for many years now and one think I always love about your breakdowns is how you’re able to portray the potential creative process of the songwriters you’re analyzing. It makes me feel like I’m watching some kind of documentary in my head while seeing your video.

@GGSpeedruns 2 года назад

This channel has helped connect so many dots , always talk about this channel irl, truly helpful. Just the way you talk about theory is amazing. Keep up the great work

@eclong462 2 года назад

Wow! I’ve loved this song my entire life, your videos really help me see every part of a song and walk away with a new appreciation for it. Excellent!

@quentinfontenot5431 2 года назад

Love your vids and this is one of my favorite 80's classics. Thanks for so effectively and eloquently explaining the complexities of this wonderful piece of art

@ChrisWhiton 10 месяцев назад

So glad you did this song, it's one of my favorite ones to sing due to the variety in it. I'm always impressed at your ability to isolate lyrics and other parts for these videos.

@jasonfirestone1008 2 года назад

Love your perspective. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" is one of my all-time favorite songs and this gave me a whole new appreciation for it. Thank you for this.

@jamesmccann8506 2 года назад

The timing of the intro to that song has always messed with my head! Glad to get confirmation that i'm not alone, and in such esteemed company!

@Patchyrick Год назад

I have no formal music education, and I’ve only recently started exploring music theory, which is how I discovered your channel. The way you’re able to succinctly deconstruct and describe what’s happening in a given section has been immensely helpful for me. Some of the ideas might go over my head at first, but since you use popular music examples, I find myself going back to a subject days later and revisiting for myself, listening to try finding the things you’ve pointed out. I’m not much of a commenter, but I wanted to say thanks for the work you do. It really is fascinating

@AMTunLimited 2 года назад

I've been doing a "piano bar" stride cover of this tune for many years, and let me tell you this analysis makes me feel SO VINDICATED for so many choices I made

@ultimateninjaboi 2 года назад

Im always excited to see you tackle one of my favorites. Africa was an absolute treat. Ive listened to your Black Parade more times than i can count. And this was certainly no exception to the rule. Fantastic job. And its already on my playlist of driving videos, among other playlists. X3

@zwgrafakhsandrianos7784 2 года назад

@12tone Thank you sooooo much for clarifing such a rich song so well!!!!

@morganleanderblake678 11 месяцев назад

LOVING hearing your analysis of vocal tone.

@shinbakihanma2749 2 года назад

Everybody want to Rule the World is the 1980s summed up in one sound. This song is my childhood. One of the most amazing tracks ever made. Great video analyizing this timeless gem.

@musicandgear42 2 года назад

Outstanding video and analysis, really appreciate that, thanks so much!

@projectz975 2 года назад

as much of a pain as it is to program a DX7 i def could see them getting the sound after an hour or so, and just not even bothering to spend even more time setting up the velocity and breakpoint stuff. as a synth player i can sympathize with not wanting to waste your bandmate's time on perfecting a patch

@1oolabob 2 года назад

You did it again, 12tone. A couple of my loose neurons got connected when you talked about vocal registration. I knew a little about different vocal registers, and about registers of keys on an organ, but I hadn't fully hooked up my concept of how this really applies to music in general...and then BAM, there it is. It's a little before 10am here, and if I take the rest of the day off from internetting, I will have done the thing I hope to do every day: I learned something I didn't know before. I'm over 60. This is triumphant af.

@theawemazingcrew9702 2 года назад

This is one of those songs I never get tired of, and it's the perfect song for whatever mood I'm in. You know how when your sad, sad songs kind of help you feel? And happy upbeat songs help you feel happy? I find this song works for almost every existing mood

@pedropimentel4703 2 года назад

You're amazing, love your analysis videos

@Mr_A_Mia 2 года назад

❤️❤️❤️i love nerding out on songs like this. Thank you.

@ddlovesjc1 2 года назад

This was amazing!!! EWTRTW is one of my favorite song and I already knew it was accidental genius but to get the signatures, key, instrumental breakdown that you have given us 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️❤️❤️

@keithhopkins691 Месяц назад

First time viewing. I’m blown away with howcool this presentation is. Brilliant! thank you. One of my favorite songs.

@MiaMartel64 11 месяцев назад

Yes! I too struggled to hear this correctly at first. Your video helped me figure it out. I'm now able to hear it the correct way, but damn.

@LadyCroMag 2 года назад

Niiiiice!!! Extraordinary brilliant artistry and analysis!!! I’m following!!!!!

@jaaxoon 2 года назад

The melody in this song has always been incredible.

@LanEXHikari 2 года назад

Wow, YT's algorithm works in frightening ways. I'm glad I got suggested this videos, after s few minutes I was really into how you graphically explain your process in drawing while listening. Superb! Thank you very much and please keep up the good work! Looking forward to it!

@TiefseeToaster Год назад

Accidentally stumbled upon this video a couple months ago. And I still think about it every time I hear pretty much any Tears for Fears song on my car playlist. I had and have no idea about music theory, but what you said and drew made me think I can at least follow the thoughts a little

@mutanttepig4759 2 года назад

Why do I like your doodling so much?! This was an awesome video in my opinion.

@dscheenaard 2 года назад

Subscribed now. Your music analysis is so good and I love this song so much. Thank you!

@rishig.2006 2 года назад

Loved the vid! Just thought I’d point out that I’d heard somewhere that one of the angles through which the lyrics could be viewed is as though the song is telling the story of ‘1984’. Always found that interesting.

@monoscopes 2 года назад

Thanks, I always loved this song and this analysis is brilliant

@grantmoon689 2 года назад

Fascinating (as always, 12Tone), and all the more so for reminding us how we can all hear music in different ways. I always heard the verse as a Dmaj7 to G/D, so while the vocal melody has an unresolved feel that Dmaj7 over a D bass always very much felt like home to me. It's that quick intro piano riff that always throws me for the rhythm! Maybe that's what was knocking you off too? Cheers, love your channel.

@IndieGamerChick 2 года назад

I'm clinically tone deaf (it's called amusia, which is funny because it's not at all amusing). I don't listen to a ton of music, and despite being a pseudo-known game critic, I mostly play games with the music turned off, if not the whole thing outright muted, because music messes with me. As I tell people who can't understand it, simply put, however music sounds to you, it doesn't sound that way to me. THIS is my favorite song. I don't have a ton of favorites, but what limited pop songs I do listen to, this is my #1. And I found it delightfully ironic that in my position as someone medically unable to process tone, that someone who does this as their passion had so much trouble with my favorite song. Go figure, huh?

@DanMarx 2 года назад

Wow this was an amazing breakdown, thank you for sharing! I love the idea of songs wondering around the root chord, never occurred to me that when this song finally gets there, it's still not resolved. Tears for Fears are amazing. Love the new album too by the way. They've still got it after all these years!

@pfkmsandiego 2 года назад

cool upload. the drums definitely deserve more attention. they're such a big part of the song and there's a history behind that specific shuffle pattern.

@MusicNerdMIDI 2 года назад

Love the analysis, and such a great song!

@rogerboltoncomposer 2 года назад

Stunning. Thank you. As a failed fairlight programmer I think I can, possibly, add a couple of things: One 'trick', at the time, was increasing the Tempo by 2 bpm a couple of bars gradually before the Chorus and the 'not quite reaching the vocal F#' has a kind of a 'prosody' as no-one can actually 'reach' ruling the world, perhaps. Just a thought :-)

@antonioposa4070 2 года назад

Splendid video. And it complements beautifully with Rick Beato's one, as yours is very oriented in theory, themes, intent of the authors (with some lovely speculation too), while Rick's is delving into the licks, the details, the virtue in its execution. Loved both videos, thanks for highlighting his (I follow his channel but I had missed it). Love your work!

@Abrakaboom Год назад

The layering you mention really makes me think of theme and variations. Unusual for rock music, yes.

@nonamehere2000 2 года назад

Thanks for this analysis. Helped me appreciate the music even more.

@wingracer1614 2 года назад

Once again, if you have triplets and weird rhythms all over the place, it's probably 12/8. 12/8 and it all falls together.

@p0dlyryszard 2 года назад

Great video and analysis. Arranging music into layers as opposed to sections is something that is an under appreciated skill imho.

@KingKafei 2 года назад

This video helped me finally remember where the sample in a song I listen to came from, I knew it sounded so damn familiar but couldn't place my finger on it until now!

@producerman10030 2 года назад

Amazingly enough I played some guitar on Curt Smith’s solo album Soul on Board.

@AdolfStalin 2 года назад

Gonna admit I teared up at your descriptions

@davidlewis8814 Год назад

I’ve enjoyed a number of your videos, but this one got me hittin Subscribe. You’re great.

@metrosuez7475 2 года назад

it really is a perfect, flawless, 10/10 song

@millennialwhoop 2 года назад

Aw man, was hoping you'd take apart the guitar solos. Some really cool extensions and non-chord tones in there. Great vid as always man!

@pandeemonium 2 года назад

The visual way of doing this is great!

@KarlFreudenreich Год назад

Oh my gosh! (@8:40) You just nailed how synthesizers changed music, I have never heard anybody describe it any better.

@unfairkibbles3226 2 года назад

First video from this channel. This may become one of my favorite channels

@rayderrich 2 года назад

Fantastic analysis of a song I so warmly remember, thanks.

@TheGoldfishArmy 2 года назад

I don't know why this appeared in my reccomended, but the music theory stuff here is really fascinating. I think I might have begun to go down a rabbit hole here. Great video.

@earendilthemariner5546 Год назад

I keep replaying that bridge portion. That guitar is so sweet

@severtone263 2 месяца назад

Amazing breakdown!

@johnsworldofvideopoker 2 года назад

Great Job On 2 Great Songsmiths!🙌🏻🙌🏻🍎

@GymLeaderEllie 2 года назад

I’ve been covering this song for a long time, as the opener of my busking set. Thanks for the new insights about it. c:

@fourkz 2 года назад

Really wild stuff. I’ve heard this song plenty of times, can recognize it from the intro alone, and all of the message and music theory behind it completely went over my head. I’ve always thought of it as a chill, relaxing song, but this really helped me see more to it than that.

@keithpl5438 Год назад

I've never seen your videos before now, and I really enjoyed it. But the thing I enjoyed MOST? The reference to THE PRISONER w/the penny farthing bicycle when you said the number 6.

@avedic 2 года назад

9:07 ......if you pause the video right around there.... I like to then imagine what someone would think this video is about having only seen those drawings. Just random doodles of multi-trunked elephants, a lion, rainbows, a unicorn, a desert landscape, a skeptical eagle, a trash can, paper currency, etc. Next video I'll have to skip ahead, pause the video, and then try and back-engineer what's going on based on context clues in the drawings. Anyway....just a random thought. Love the channel....been a fan since day one and I love how much success it's had. Always excellent content. :)

@johnwebb6342 2 года назад

Music is Hard Work. It's not all elephants and gummy bears.

@trumpingtonfanhurst694 2 года назад

I can't get past how you hold the marker like a club yet produce a plethora of intricate well-done illustrations in quick time.

@AvalenciaAva 2 года назад

Honestly, the Timelord from Slay the Spire makes me hit the sub button and your analisys are awesome, grettings from Mexico.

@ocimau5 2 года назад

Your shrek “s” when you said layers 😂 I’m a total music noob and this is the first video of yours I have seen, but so far I am thoroughly impressed and can’t wait to see more!

@georgefrankcarrillo277 2 года назад

WOW... Wonderful musical analysis. I learned a lot. Thank you so much. GFC

@whatacrazyride1658 2 года назад

12tone, This video is brilliant. Your style and explanations and doodles made what I frankly didn't like when it came out(Synth Pop/Rock), something I gave 20 minutes of my time to 40 years later. You are a genuine treasure as a content creator. BRAVO!

@whatacrazyride1658 2 года назад

By the way, how did I even get to this video?

@TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад

How come you didn’t like it?

@TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад

@@whatacrazyride1658 You probably watched a lot of music related videos recently and the algorithm recommended a video about music theory.

@whatacrazyride1658 2 года назад

@@TokyoBalletReprise no, I haven't watched any music related stuff... In fact I was watching a long list of engineering explained videos.

@whatacrazyride1658 2 года назад

@@TokyoBalletReprise I was in my teens in high school....I played music and I felt 80's music in general sounded sterile andmechanistic. I hated the keyboards and synths and even to this day they sound so terrible to me. Quantizing beats and sounds that were just not musical to my ears. They have finally taken some of those techniques and electronics and coaxed some good out of all of it, but it was just so new and the experimenting sounded like bad experiments.

@awbeans982 2 года назад

You have increased my appreciation for this song and TFF!

@danoleary7861 2 года назад

I wish I'd heard this 10 years ago when I had to learn this song. I was making observations right before you said the same point. Great job analyzing Roland's vocals and TFF's arrangements.

@pdkett1 2 года назад

It's the other guy doing the lead vocal this one; Roland just sings harmony.

@Anamnesia 2 года назад

*_TOTALLY AMAZING_* You've given me a Fresh Perspective of the song. There definitely feels a _struggle_ between 'Order' (Domination) and 'Freedom'... Q: Do you make the Doodled music paper available to be purchased?

@swpenguin 2 года назад

Great video!

@Angus_Macgregor 2 года назад

I love these analyses but I have now idea how you manage to draw with your own grip! How do you see what you are drawing? Your hand completely obscures it. 🙂 Great analysis, as always! Well done.